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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13072
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:24:49 -
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Joe Risalo wrote: It might also be noted that the very corps you're trying to rid Eve of, often take more risks just by existing than many corps that exist in low/null/wh space.
It might also be noted that what you just said is utter bullshit. Highsec is so safe it's nauseating.
Quote: There are literally hundreds of corps, outside of high sec, that do exactly what casual high sec corps do. Only, they do it under the protection and banner of an alliance.
Grr, other people having friends.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Yuri Ostrovskoy
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:26:26 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote:Keeping npc corps are good for Eve, that's all there is to say about it.
Well, aside from the part where CCP themselves tell us that they are bad for EvE, sure. Well, that and the part where you have to back up your statements with something more than a handful of ad hominem attacks against the people disagreeing with you. You know, facts. Like CCP showed us, the ones that show that NPC corps are bad for the game.
No, Ccp is just saying they are bad for their bottom line. They are good for new players, and denying that is pure fanboisim at its best. The trick is getting those new players out of an npc corp, and into a player ran corp, and keeping them there, which in turn, keeps the sub fee rolling. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13076
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:26:53 -
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Do you freaking hear yourself? Sitting there, pouting and demanding the kinds of things that people get in huge alliances, while demanding it for the literal lowest common denominator in the entire game?
You do not deserve it. Simple as that.
You don't deserve to exist, you don't deserve to be safe, and you don't deserve to be left alone by anyone, ever.
Not unless you actually play the game and earn it.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13076
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:28:26 -
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Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote:They are good for new players, and denying that is pure fanboisim at its best.
There's that ad hominem again, in lieu of anything resembling proof of your ludicrous statements.
I reject your claim. I will not take what you say at face value, certainly not when CCP's own statements directly contradict it.
Back it up, or gtfo.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
757
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:29:53 -
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Solecist Punk wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Solecist Punk wrote:beakerax wrote:Sol, maybe you should lie down. Nah, it's too spot on with narrative. While what I write is true, as you only have granted rights by those with the guns ... ... and these people probably believe their existence alone gives them rights ...... ... the whole situation is just too good not to be exploited. Don't worry about *me*. I'm fine. This is very funny for several reasons, one also being that the weak never stop being delusional. :) Anyway ... worry about them instead. They need it. (: I'll just play the storyline ..... ..... and they believe it's real. :) I think most of us are keeping the context of the game in mind while you seem to be talking about real life people with guns. I do believe you are the one trying to make it real. No. You are not getting that the game works based on the same set of rules. Natural laws. I wrote it. Look it up. Learn what it means and how it applies to this game. Think about how your life would be if there was no police protecting you. Tqke the whole package and apply it to EVE ONLINE. If you can't do that ... ... then the issue is with you. Good night, scrub.
HAHAHA!!!!!
So, because I don't like to PVP in Eve, I can't survive real life, because of natural selection??
lol
Ok... Lets do a comparison... Me Former US Army infantry veteran with 2 tours to Iraq, combat life saver training, survivalist training, expert marksman with many weapon types, armed household, over 300 confirmed kills for my mortar platoon, and over 30 confirmed solo kills.
Vs They guys you see at fanfest, who preach about pvp...
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beakerax
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:30:30 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Please don't make me come back for thirds. ISD Mirriam Lobstarr, you can have as many extra helpings as you like. This is General Discussion, our badposting is post-scarcity. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1483
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:31:06 -
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Solecist Punk wrote:No. You are not getting that the game works based on the same set of rules.
Natural laws.
I wrote it. Look it up. Learn what it means and how it applies to this game. Think about how your life would be if there was no police protecting you.
Tqke the whole package and apply it to EVE ONLINE.
If you can't do that ... ... then the issue is with you.
Good night, scrub. How does one draw parity between space immortals with no upkeep and real life in any appreciable manner?
Also you should probably realize those police exist because of natural law rather than in spite of them. |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
757
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:32:12 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Joe Risalo wrote: It might also be noted that the very corps you're trying to rid Eve of, often take more risks just by existing than many corps that exist in low/null/wh space.
It might also be noted that what you just said is utter bullshit. Highsec is so safe it's nauseating. Quote: There are literally hundreds of corps, outside of high sec, that do exactly what casual high sec corps do. Only, they do it under the protection and banner of an alliance.
Grr, other people having friends.
Oh, ok... So you're allowed to suck at the game and not be condemned, so long as you're part of an uninvolved side of a group that doesn't suck....
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13076
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:33:38 -
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Joe Risalo wrote: Oh, ok... So you're allowed to suck at the game and not be condemned, so long as you're part of an uninvolved side of a group that doesn't suck....
They're putting in more effort, and accepting more risk.
Yes, their reward ratio should be higher. That's called game balance.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
37497
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:34:34 -
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Joe Risalo wrote:Former US Army infantry veteran with 2 tours to Iraq, combat life saver training, survivalist training, expert marksman with many weapon types, armed household, over 300 confirmed kills for my mortar platoon, and over 30 confirmed solo kills.
Vs They guys you see at fanfest, who preach about pvp...
lol I'm sure you're service was extremely valuable for your country and something to be immensely proud of.
But why spurge on guys at Fanfest for the way they play a game, the same game you play? Do you know what any of them do or have done in their real life that deserves ridicule in comparison to military service?
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
757
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:39:48 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Joe Risalo wrote:Former US Army infantry veteran with 2 tours to Iraq, combat life saver training, survivalist training, expert marksman with many weapon types, armed household, over 300 confirmed kills for my mortar platoon, and over 30 confirmed solo kills.
Vs They guys you see at fanfest, who preach about pvp...
lol I'm sure you're service was extremely valuable for your country and something to be immensely proud of. But why spurge on guys at Fanfest for the way they play a game, the same game you play? Do you know what any of them do or have done in their real life that deserves ridicule in comparison to military service?
I'm not comparing them to my military service.
That comment is directed at the comment I quoted, preaching about "natural selection".
I do not condemn those filmed at Fanfest.
I merely making a point. I've survived combat.. I have training and skills to survive a harsh life and take others with me.
Yet, the player I quoted seems to believe that since I don't like Eve PVP and/or suck at it, I must then suck at survival in general.
The point I tried to illustrate is that survival is not based on how well you play a video game, thus, the video game must not be a representation of your survival skills. |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
757
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:40:52 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Joe Risalo wrote:Former US Army infantry veteran with 2 tours to Iraq, combat life saver training, survivalist training, expert marksman with many weapon types, armed household, over 300 confirmed kills for my mortar platoon, and over 30 confirmed solo kills.
Vs They guys you see at fanfest, who preach about pvp...
lol I'm sure you're service was extremely valuable for your country and something to be immensely proud of. But why spurge on guys at Fanfest for the way they play a game, the same game you play? Do you know what any of them do or have done in their real life that deserves ridicule in comparison to military service? Nevermind the extreme shock I'm under that anyone in a 13 series MOS can actually read.
13 series? I'm sure you're mistaken |
Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:42:27 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Do you freaking hear yourself? Sitting there, pouting and demanding the kinds of things that people get in huge alliances, while demanding it for the literal lowest common denominator in the entire game?
You do not deserve it. Simple as that.
You don't deserve to exist, you don't deserve to be safe, and you don't deserve to be left alone by anyone, ever.
Not unless you actually play the game and earn it.
Its funny you use the word demanding when you are demanding other play the way you want them to.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13077
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:42:32 -
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Joe Risalo wrote:[ The point I tried to illustrate is that survival is not based on how well you play a video game, thus, the video game must not be a representation of your survival skills.
First of all, you got trolled. Second of all, not a lot of people actually think that.
While I dislike the attitude you display here, I don't know you from Adam.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13077
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:44:26 -
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Syn Shi wrote: Its funny you use the word demanding when you are demanding other play the way you want them to.
Nope, that's still you, demanding that we ignore the stats and the facts, and keep on the with the same failed paradigm we have been, just because it suits you.
It's shameful.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Yuri Ostrovskoy
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:44:58 -
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So what it boils down to then, is you people are terrified and outraged that others can play how they want, where they want. They don't have to endure the struggle you did seven someodd years ago, and that triggers you.
This is a sandbox, not your sandbox.
I'm tired of trying to provide rational thought towards this when all I get are ludicrous "nu-uhhhhh" responses. You want to force me to change? Come find me in hi-sec, and hope you're good enough to put me down before the npcs rip you apart. |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
757
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:46:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Joe Risalo wrote:[ The point I tried to illustrate is that survival is not based on how well you play a video game, thus, the video game must not be a representation of your survival skills. First of all, you got trolled. Second of all, not a lot of people actually think that. While I dislike the attitude you display here, I don't know you from Adam.
I also don't know you from Adam.. I however, also dislike your attitude here. You seem to be under the impression that players should not be allowed to play the game at all, if they don't play in a manner that you dictate as "good". |
Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13077
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:47:38 -
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Joe Risalo wrote: You seem to be under the impression that players should not be allowed to play the game at all, if they don't play in a manner that you dictate as "good".
Wrong.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
758
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:49:39 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Joe Risalo wrote: You seem to be under the impression that players should not be allowed to play the game at all, if they don't play in a manner that you dictate as "good".
Wrong.
Well, I would like you to enlighten me on how your comments can lead me to believe otherwise. |
Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:50:33 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Syn Shi wrote: Its funny you use the word demanding when you are demanding other play the way you want them to.
Nope, that's still you, demanding that we ignore the stats and the facts, and keep on the with the same failed paradigm we have been, just because it suits you. It's shameful.
Wrong
Look ma...no hands. |
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13077
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:50:52 -
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Joe Risalo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Joe Risalo wrote: You seem to be under the impression that players should not be allowed to play the game at all, if they don't play in a manner that you dictate as "good".
Wrong. Well, I would like you to enlighten me on how your comments can lead me to believe otherwise.
You might try actually reading them.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Yuri Ostrovskoy
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:52:28 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Joe Risalo wrote: You seem to be under the impression that players should not be allowed to play the game at all, if they don't play in a manner that you dictate as "good".
Wrong.
No, that's pretty spot on. Just look at the comments you've provided.
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Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:53:01 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Joe Risalo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Joe Risalo wrote: You seem to be under the impression that players should not be allowed to play the game at all, if they don't play in a manner that you dictate as "good".
Wrong. Well, I would like you to enlighten me on how your comments can lead me to believe otherwise. You might try actually reading them.
You might try actually reading your own posts.
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Conrad Makbure
Trident Expedition
79
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:53:13 -
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Local chat scammers/spammers stay in NPC corporation for the safety. I would like to see them pushed out though. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13077
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:55:26 -
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Syn Shi wrote: You might try actually reading your own posts.
Try reading yours. Directly arguing against improving player retention, because it means attention being paid to a part of the game you irrationally dislike.
We've tried it your way for a decade, and it has been proven not to work. Time to go the other way for once.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
758
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:55:42 -
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Syn Shi wrote: You might try actually reading your own posts.
What this guy said. |
Yuri Ostrovskoy
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:57:31 -
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Conrad Makbure wrote:Local chat scammers/spammers stay in NPC corporation for the safety. I would like to see them pushed out though.
See this is a valid counter point. I agree 100%. This side of the npc/highsec debacle is completely abused, and needs to be addressed in a productive manner. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
368
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:58:05 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote: So, casual players, new players and people that don't run five alts need not apply.
Not with an attitude like yours, no. Everyone else is welcome.
My attitude of honesty about the level of competence required to murder casuals in highsec? I guess your arguments make sense to people who don't read or check killboards, but you should really know better.
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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
759
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:58:46 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Syn Shi wrote: You might try actually reading your own posts.
Try reading yours. Directly arguing against improving player retention, because it means attention being paid to a part of the game you irrationally dislike. We've tried it your way for a decade, and it has been proven not to work. Time to go the other way for once.
lol, what?
My way has never been tried in Eve. The way of Eve is more towards the way you want it, than that of my own.
I want to be able to go anywhere in Eve and do anything without worrying about all the crap other players wish to put on me. However, that is not the case. I am forced to bend to the will of people such as yourself in order to play Eve.
I continue to play Eve, so therefore, I am willing to do so.
You, however, continue to play Eve in a manner that suits you, while wanting to enforce your suited manner on others. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1483
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:58:51 -
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Conrad Makbure wrote:Local chat scammers/spammers stay in NPC corporation for the safety. I would like to see them pushed out though. Chasing spammers and scammers with wardecs seems like a good way to throw away isk. If they're in NPC corps it's likely because they are dedicated alts that don't undock. |
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