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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
8697
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:48:45 -
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Solstice Punk wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Solstice Punk wrote:
Calling people carebears is too vague and not actually hinting at the right people.
Check me out I'm a big bear And really, I care So, would you dare... to call me the right people? Mr Epeen Hi the right people. I have no idea what you want. You're not a carebear and you can defend yourself. You are also not identifying yourself with your spacechar. Just saying that carebear as a term is of no use. It actually helps them when people use it. It needs to be dropped ASAP and replaced with something more descriptive. They are people who do not wish to defend themselves. That's so much more accurate on so, so many levels.
I was just prattling on. I hadn't actually spoken to this iteration of you yet and that's the best I could come up with on short notice.
But since we're on the topic. I call them the SRA (Severely Risk Averse). I think it's a better description of what we have here in EVE as opposed to the traditional MMO carebear.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1495
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:49:05 -
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Why would they want to defend? Why not evade? Is there an obligation to a course of action? If there is why do other courses of action exist?
Are we dealing with people who don't want to defend themselves? Probably. Why is that an issue? |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
794
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:55:39 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Except for the part where CCP gives player corps so little to offer.
That's their problem, and they need to get around to fixing it. That will mean a big net nerf to NPC corps, once CCP finds the spine to do it. And just like the ISBotters, the NPC corp carebears will cry and howl, but their time of standing in the way of improving the game will finally be at an end.
So wait... You sit here and request more restrictions to NPC corps in order to force players into player corps, then turn around and say that CCP doesn't provide the corps much to offer... You need to figure out what your trying to suggest... Nerf NPC corps or make player corps better?
Oh, and how exactly are NPC corp players standing in the way of improving gameplay? You seem to have some knowledge that no one else shares... Is it the changes to war decs and awoxing that are the fault of NPC carebears? No... that can't be it, they're not in player corps so that crap doesn't matter to them....
Nope... I got nothing.... You're full of crap..
Quote: I was an awoxer for a long time before CCP decided it wasn't going to be allowed anymore, and as a result I have been in more corps than probably anyone in this thread.
The "griefing" corps you are frothing about? They are the friendly, welcoming, helpful ones, the ones who take newbies under their wing and teach them all about the game. You claim otherwise to perpetuate a lie for your own selfish benefit.
Present the evidence to support this... The "griefing" corps you so claim are willing to take on new player are friendly, welcoming, and helpful, are only so until you join their corp... Then they pop you and kick you from corp...
Am I wrong? Who knows... Do you have any evidence to say otherwise? No? Well then, your claims that others are lieing is nothing more than YOU attempting to perpetuate YOUR agenda.
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We are, and we always have been. But CCP's PvE centric, boredom oriented design for highsec makes that an uphill battle. Something carebear chickenshits like you work so hard to defend.
So wait... The fact that I mine, or mission, or whatever PVE centric activity I focus on seems to break your game, I have a suggestion.
LTP or GTFO....
It's laughable how much you claim carebears and highsec are to blame for your lack of combat...
Perhaps isn't cause you're a chickenshit, high sec carebear hunter? There are plenty of people in low, null, and WH space that very much enjoy your style of play.
What's the matter? You scared? |
Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
176
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:59:52 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Why would they want to defend? Why not evade? Is there an obligation to a course of action? If there is why do other courses of action exist?
Are we dealing with people who don't want to defend themselves? Probably. Why is that an issue?
Because declaring war on a corp who doesn't want to be at war confuses the ones declaring the war.
And this makes them salty and forces them to make posts.
So how many times have we chased our tail around the beaten dead horse.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13200
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:09:54 -
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Joe Risalo wrote: You need to figure out what your trying to suggest... Nerf NPC corps or make player corps better?
Those two things are equivalent. Personally, I'd like to see both happen.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
795
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:12:17 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Joe Risalo wrote: You need to figure out what your trying to suggest... Nerf NPC corps or make player corps better?
Those two things are equivalent. Personally, I'd like to see both happen.
Aaaaand completely ignore the rest of my comments because you can't think of a way to twist them to what you want.
NPC corps are fine...
Don't like it? Don't play. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13200
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:14:53 -
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Joe Risalo wrote: Aaaaand completely ignore the rest of my comments because you can't think of a way to twist them to what you want.
No, I ignored them because you're just rambling like a derelict.
Quote: NPC corps are fine...
No, they're not. They're going to eat a fairly heavy nerf in the fairly near future, I suspect.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Yuri Ostrovskoy
State War Academy Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:28:38 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Joe Risalo wrote: Aaaaand completely ignore the rest of my comments because you can't think of a way to twist them to what you want.
No, I ignored them because you're just rambling like a derelict. Quote: NPC corps are fine...
No, they're not. They're going to eat a fairly heavy nerf in the fairly near future, I suspect.
Which in turn will do nothing more then prompt player corps to have even more ridiculous standards to get in due to the high traffic fleeing npc corps. 48 hour wait periods, down payments, ******** 3 part interviews which mostly consist of "are you a spy? Are you a stream sniper? Which hand do you wipe your arse with?" Etc etc.
The problem never was the npc corps, it's always been the players, and that won't change, no matter what "data" Ccp pulls out of the void. |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
795
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:31:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
No, I ignored them because you're just rambling like a derelict.
I called you out on your BS and lack of evidence to support your claims.
u Mad Bro? Or just out of fallacies?
Quote: No, they're not. They're going to eat a fairly heavy nerf in the fairly near future, I suspect.
Really? Cause there's quite a bit of evidence to suggest otherwise. Seems like CCP realizes the issue is with casual players wanting to stay out of the BS politics.
Also, NPC corp account likely make up for a large chunk of CCP revenue. Explain to me what makes you think they would risk throwing all that money out the window when they're in the process of trying to retain players?
I'm sure you can find another game to help you rage dunk on weaker players, if Eve isn't supporting your needs. Have you tried any of the MMO RTSs lately? |
Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13203
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:32:01 -
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Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote: Which in turn will do nothing more then prompt player corps to have even more ridiculous standards to get in due to the high traffic fleeing npc corps.
My first thought upon reading that sentence.
Your ranting afterwards? Well, that's a whole different meme.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Yuri Ostrovskoy
State War Academy Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:35:02 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote: Which in turn will do nothing more then prompt player corps to have even more ridiculous standards to get in due to the high traffic fleeing npc corps.
My first thought upon reading that sentence. Your ranting afterwards? Well, that's a whole different meme.
See, people exactly like you. You're nothing more then living proof of why we want nothing to do with your corps. Don't even bothering responding, the points been made, and you truly have no counterpoint worth offering. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13203
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:39:03 -
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Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote: See, people exactly like you. You're nothing more then living proof of why we want nothing to do with your corps. Don't even bothering responding, the points been made, and you truly have no counterpoint worth offering.
The really funny part is that I wouldn't willingly associate with the likes of you, either. You're so much more useful as targets instead.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
795
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:44:19 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote: See, people exactly like you. You're nothing more then living proof of why we want nothing to do with your corps. Don't even bothering responding, the points been made, and you truly have no counterpoint worth offering.
The really funny part is that I wouldn't willingly associate with the likes of you, either. You're so much more useful as targets instead.
Ahh poor boy is gonna lose targets if things don't go his way.
This makes me a saaaaaad panda... |
Yuri Ostrovskoy
State War Academy Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:44:43 -
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At least we can take comfort in knowing you people are no longer forced on us, we're forced on you. You have to deal with us, and not the other way around.
Cheers "mate" |
Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13207
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:48:06 -
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Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote:At least we can take comfort in knowing you people are no longer forced on us, we're forced on you. You have to deal with us, and not the other way around.
Cheers "mate"
Don't make me break out the Jackie Chan meme again.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
795
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:49:24 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote:At least we can take comfort in knowing you people are no longer forced on us, we're forced on you. You have to deal with us, and not the other way around.
Cheers "mate" Don't make me break out the Jackie Chan meme again.
Didn't work anyway... Too bad... Could use another meme for Facebook... |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
8699
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:54:46 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote: You're so much more useful as targets instead.
But they look like people. You don't shoot people. In fact you haven't shot anything in 2015 except a POS.
I don't think they need to fear you, really. No sticks and stones. Just empty bravado.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
37731
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:56:29 -
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Joe Risalo wrote:Correlationnotcausation We covered this about 30 pages ago in the thread.
It's likely that the causes of long term player retention are too varied to narrow down into something that can be focused on for a goid return on the investment. I'd also happily bet each of us in this thread have different reasons for staying with the game.
But we (carebears and pvpers alike) that are the 10% that find the play that attracts us, for whatever reason.
Clearly based on the data, that 90% that leave quickly, don't. Some would probably never find it, but CCP realise there is an opportunity cost if they just kept doing the same thing. So they decided to do something different and try to expose more new players to a broader range of possible experiences.
From there, it's up to the players and there will still be a lot that leave. But if some of that 90% end up as long term subscribers, that's good for everyone, irrespective of the individual cause.
So the causes are great to know (CCP exit surveys seem to be their main source of data for that), but equally important are the experiences that correlate with the higher retention of the 10% of us that stay.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
796
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:58:54 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: You're so much more useful as targets instead.
But they look like people. You don't shoot people. In fact you haven't shot anything in 2015 except a POS. I don't think they need to fear you, really. No sticks and stones. Just empty bravado. Mr Epeen
Well you see, when you can't awox anymore, your combat capabilities are pretty limited... Kinda hard to kill people when you don't know how they're fit. |
Yuri Ostrovskoy
State War Academy Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2015.05.30 02:01:26 -
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Joe Risalo wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: You're so much more useful as targets instead.
But they look like people. You don't shoot people. In fact you haven't shot anything in 2015 except a POS. I don't think they need to fear you, really. No sticks and stones. Just empty bravado. Mr Epeen Well you see, when you can't awox anymore, your combat capabilities are pretty limited... Kinda hard to kill people when you don't know how they're fit.
"Hello? 9-11? I just witnessed a murder"
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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
796
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Posted - 2015.05.30 02:02:28 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Joe Risalo wrote:Correlationnotcausation We covered this about 30 pages ago in the thread. It's likely that the causes of long term player retention are too varied to narrow down into something that can be focused on for a goid return on the investment. I'd also happily bet each of us in this thread have different reasons for staying with the game. But we (carebears and pvpers alike) that are the 10% that find the play that attracts us, for whatever reason. Clearly based on the data, that 90% that leave quickly, don't. Some would probably never find it, but CCP realise there is an opportunity cost if they just kept doing the same thing. So they decided to do something different and try to expose more new players to a broader range of possible experiences. From there, it's up to the players and there will still be a lot that leave. But if some of that 90% end up as long term subscribers, that's good for everyone, irrespective of the individual cause. So the causes are great to know (CCP exit surveys seem to be their main source of data for that), but equally important are the experiences that correlate with the higher retention of the 10% of us that stay.
Well said.
Now, if only we could get some of these people to realize that nerfing NPC corps doesn't fix CCP's issue. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13207
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Posted - 2015.05.30 02:02:31 -
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Joe Risalo wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: You're so much more useful as targets instead.
But they look like people. You don't shoot people. In fact you haven't shot anything in 2015 except a POS. I don't think they need to fear you, really. No sticks and stones. Just empty bravado. Mr Epeen Well you see, when you can't awox anymore, your combat capabilities are pretty limited... Kinda hard to kill people when you don't know how they're fit.
More like it's rather hard to juggle overheats and active reps with an infant on my lap, but push whatever narrative you two desire.
Although it is rather fun to see a dedicated forum alt play at **** measuring with killboards.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Yuri Ostrovskoy
State War Academy Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2015.05.30 02:04:53 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Joe Risalo wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: You're so much more useful as targets instead.
But they look like people. You don't shoot people. In fact you haven't shot anything in 2015 except a POS. I don't think they need to fear you, really. No sticks and stones. Just empty bravado. Mr Epeen Well you see, when you can't awox anymore, your combat capabilities are pretty limited... Kinda hard to kill people when you don't know how they're fit. More like it's rather hard to juggle overheats and active reps with an infant on my lap, but push whatever narrative you two desire. I did have a rather bracing time in Squiddie FW space the other day, but not on this guy, his Gallente standings aren't good enough to join. I have to have Diplo to max just to enter their space anymore. Although it is rather fun to see a dedicated forum alt play at **** measuring with killboards.
If you were looking to discredit yourself, you could have just said "well, as a mother...." Instead.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13207
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Posted - 2015.05.30 02:07:44 -
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Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote: If you were looking to discredit yourself, you could have just said "well, as a mother...." Instead.
Your error lies in the assumption that I, or anyone, gives a crap what a worthless NPC alt thinks.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
796
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Posted - 2015.05.30 02:07:45 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Joe Risalo wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: You're so much more useful as targets instead.
But they look like people. You don't shoot people. In fact you haven't shot anything in 2015 except a POS. I don't think they need to fear you, really. No sticks and stones. Just empty bravado. Mr Epeen Well you see, when you can't awox anymore, your combat capabilities are pretty limited... Kinda hard to kill people when you don't know how they're fit. More like it's rather hard to juggle overheats and active reps with an infant on my lap, but push whatever narrative you two desire. I did have a rather bracing time in Squiddie FW space the other day, but not on this guy, his Gallente standings aren't good enough to join. I have to have Diplo to max just to enter their space anymore. Although it is rather fun to see a dedicated forum alt play at **** measuring with killboards.
Well... So far it appears yours is smaller..
Funny though.... How does an infant keep you from PVP with one character, but not the other? Which I might add, we coincidentally have not had the luxury to meet. Odd.... |
Yuri Ostrovskoy
State War Academy Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2015.05.30 02:08:58 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote: If you were looking to discredit yourself, you could have just said "well, as a mother...." Instead.
Your error lies in the assumption that I, or anyone, gives a crap what a worthless NPC alt thinks.
Worthless npc main, thank you. At least give credit where it's due.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
8700
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Posted - 2015.05.30 02:10:06 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote: I did have a rather bracing time in Squiddie FW space the other day, but not on this guy, his Gallente standings aren't good enough to join.
Of course. And your other car is a Porsche.
Pretty lame to use the old, "My other super secret alt is the real killer" gambit.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13207
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Posted - 2015.05.30 02:10:44 -
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Joe Risalo wrote: How does an infant keep you from PVP with one character, but not the other?
Because faction warfare is fly and die with cheap little frigates? If you don't care if you live, you can use one hand.
Do try to pay attention.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13207
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Posted - 2015.05.30 02:13:48 -
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Mr Epeen wrote: Of course. And your other car is a Porsche.
Nope, I drive a Subaru.
Quote: Pretty lame to use the old, "My other super secret alt is the real killer" gambit.
Says the self acknowledged forum alt? Get over yourself, puffball. Besides, pretty sure if I were to check the FW character, her killboard would suck.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
797
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Posted - 2015.05.30 02:17:14 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote: If you were looking to discredit yourself, you could have just said "well, as a mother...." Instead.
Your error lies in the assumption that I, or anyone, gives a crap what a worthless NPC alt thinks.
I care... Meet my worthless NPC alt... Want more news that will make you feel better? This character is specifically used for forum posting.
See, I use this character so that I can enjoy my game time instead of dealing with people that use Eve to make them feel better, in order to make up for their failures IRL.
See, I've accomplished quite a bit in my 31 years of life, and don't really need people, who missed puberty, harassing me in game. |
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