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DTson Gauur
Underground-Operators Illuminantur Dominium Sicarioum
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Posted - 2015.02.23 09:11:38 -
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Ravasta Helugo wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something. These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately.
You guys seem to forget something pretty important:
We already KNOW there's a super weapon on the loose, the one the Amarr Empress acquired by some rather shady means from "the drones". Now, where is that piece of tech hmm? It hasn't been seen since the one and only time it was used.
Makes one think just from WHO it actually came from...
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
527
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Posted - 2015.02.23 09:29:57 -
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DTson Gauur wrote:Ravasta Helugo wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something. These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately. You guys seem to forget something pretty important: We already KNOW there's a super weapon on the loose, the one the Amarr Empress acquired by some rather shady means from "the drones". Now, where is that piece of tech hmm? It hasn't been seen since the one and only time it was used. Makes one think just from WHO it actually came from...
It got destroyed by the Elder Fleet. #history
" And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit -
I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! "
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.02.23 11:33:29 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote: It got destroyed by the Elder Fleet. #history
Um. I think you got that wrong.. The Mekhios Graveyard proves otherwise. |
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.02.23 11:39:51 -
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It was her majestyGÇÖs divine mercy that those heathens didn't have time to dwell on their death, but rather were extinguished like a thieving rodent in a snap trap. For the glory of the empire! |
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17200
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Posted - 2015.02.23 13:24:00 -
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DTson Gauur wrote:Ravasta Helugo wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something. These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately. You guys seem to forget something pretty important: We already KNOW there's a super weapon on the loose, the one the Amarr Empress acquired by some rather shady means from "the drones". Now, where is that piece of tech hmm? It hasn't been seen since the one and only time it was used. Makes one think just from WHO it actually came from... That weapon was actually destroyed in the "end of the World" chronicles- a good read and it came from a Terran outpost that was found near the EVE gate- it had been cloaked.
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Soldarius
Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent
1123
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Posted - 2015.02.23 14:47:28 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:That weapon was actually destroyed in the "end of the World" chronicles- a good read and it came from a Terran outpost that was found near the EVE gate- it had been cloaked.
Terran outpost that was cloaked. Is it just me or does this bear a striking resemblance to current events?
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
527
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:33:13 -
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Elyia Suze Nagala wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote: It got destroyed by the Elder Fleet. #history Um. I think you got that wrong.. The Mekhios Graveyard proves otherwise.
Them chronicles - read them (as Uriel pointed out)
" And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit -
I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! "
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:50:36 -
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Quote:Given the current evidence available there appears to be strong historical and sociological connections between the Jovian and Sleeper societies. The attempts to find a cure for the lethal Jovian Disease forced a separation of the two groups, where the Sleepers used their expertise in virtual worlds to prolong the grave state of depression caused by the disease. To find a permanent cure, the Sleepers went on a quest to reconstruct their corrupted DNA; the cause of the disease. For this they needed unmodified DNA from other ethnic groups which eventually lead to the eradication of the Yan Jung Nation. Unsuccessful in solving the DNA mystery with specimens from New Eden alone, the Sleepers constructed huge Motherships and star gates to take them far beyond New Eden into w-space. There they continued their DNA research on the Talocans, a race untainted by the massive radiation emitted by the collapse of the EVE Gate. Seemingly, this research was either unfruitful or is still ongoing thereby making the final fate of the Sleepers unknown.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Sleeper_-_Jovian_Connection
The Jove have a disease that they are not able to cure. Unlike the Capsuleer who can live forever because of Clone Technology the Jove are still not able to defeat the disease. Even if the Jove use Clone Technology the virus which is encoded within their body somehow finds its way into the new clone. All Jovian's eventually die from the disease that causes a psychological breakdown to occur.
To this end alone is probably the reason why the Jovian's have band jacked theirselves into their own space and will not interact with New Eden. The utter madness that comes as a result of the Jovian Breakdown would set the societies of New Eden on fire as once loyal Jovian friends and allies suddenly turn on their closest friends destroying them to no matter. Every once in a while though a Jovian or group of Jovian's having become fanatically obsessed with finding a cure will travel into New Eden secretly looking for anything that will help them cure. In this pursuit they are unrelenting and uncaring and will stop at nothing to find the cure. Some in their final years amass such a fanatical personality that the aggression actually changes the physical appearance of the Jovian into a manifestation of what can only be said to be the actual virus itself.
With the Jovian's possessing technology that far exceeds that of New Eden their ventures into our territory can only mean one thing. They are here to gather up our young women to take them back to Jove so that the next generation of Jovian's can be born free of the Jovian disease.
The Jovian's would most likely be looking for specific females with specific DNA traits. Traits that have not been recognized yet but would tend to be on the side with having naturally strong immune systems. Once these females are found the Jovian's will stop at nothing to harvest them all to the very last one.
Capsuleers would not ne affected most likely because of our cloning technology but rather the citizens of New Eden living on planets who do not enjoy long life would be the targets because their bodies are free and clean of technological improvements that the Jove would need to re-build their society with.
The Jove can be easily be found in modern society even through their use of cloaking technology. They are the ones who constantly complain about someone doing something else that gives the person a sense of life over them. A sense of life they cannot enjoy because of the hate surrounding their never ending need to find a cure for disease that consumes their entire life. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:52:37 -
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DTson Gauur wrote:Ravasta Helugo wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something. These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately. You guys seem to forget something pretty important: We already KNOW there's a super weapon on the loose, the one the Amarr Empress acquired by some rather shady means from "the drones". Now, where is that piece of tech hmm? It hasn't been seen since the one and only time it was used. Makes one think just from WHO it actually came from...
The Amarr would be rather foolish to use it because when they do every single faction, Capsuleer and Pirate alike will home in on its location thus bringing the end of the Amarr Empire. |
Solairen
Matsuko Holding
200
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Posted - 2015.02.26 18:36:57 -
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Hilen posted another transmission, maybe we'll get some more info soon. |
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17389
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Posted - 2015.03.04 15:32:50 -
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I'm starting to believe that the Drifters are the "Others" that appeared after the original Other and needed Jovian biomass to create bodies to leave the construct.
Now the question is- what are the others? Grious said that they "appeared", but not even the Jove know everything.
Seeing the very similar names between the Drifters (Tyrannos) and the Tyrants of the second Jove empire, I have a new idea that could mean something big: the Others could be the Tyrants themselves, having hidden their minds in the Sleeper construct as the empire collapsed. Additionally- and this is the most tinfoil-y part- what if the Other in Jamyl's head is Miko Bour himself, the first of the Tyrants and the leader of them in the second empire?
All tinfoil, of course, but it's plausible and would make the appearance of the Others have context.
Also, I believe the Seekers and Drifters are using the Entosis module or something similar, which makes the theory on the "Repair Man" chronicle all the more relevant
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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VTyx Soul
MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels
45
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Posted - 2015.03.04 22:13:32 -
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So the latest informations lists the structures as Jove observatories. But what are the structures observing |
Asura Vajrarupa
Sanguis Inceptum
33
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Posted - 2015.03.05 01:53:02 -
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VTyx Soul wrote:So the latest informations lists the structures as Jove observatories. But what are the structures observing
You.
Ignorance is the cause of suffering.
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Bobb Bobbington
Perkone Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2015.03.05 21:08:56 -
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So I'm sure this isn't new at all, or anything, but weren't we talking about some Site One thing transmitted from Hilen Tukoss? Noone mentioned the one here.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=409064&find=unread
Someone in the comments connected that one of the stings of numbers was also like the ID to a station in Eram, which as I was passing through noticed had a site called Arek'Jaalan Site One: Antiquus. It's probably been there a while since people were there but maybe it's worth mentioning. Maybe it's possible for us, the capsuleers, to find Hilen? In the site there was a gate under construction.... |
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.03.06 11:03:08 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:DTson Gauur wrote:Ravasta Helugo wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something. These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately. You guys seem to forget something pretty important: We already KNOW there's a super weapon on the loose, the one the Amarr Empress acquired by some rather shady means from "the drones". Now, where is that piece of tech hmm? It hasn't been seen since the one and only time it was used. Makes one think just from WHO it actually came from... That weapon was actually destroyed in the "end of the World" chronicles- a good read and it came from a Terran outpost that was found near the EVE gate- it had been cloaked.
Is this Cannon or 3rd Party fiction? I'm assuming its cannon since you're referencing it. I just bought Eve Sources and Templar One, have to starting reading when it gets here. |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
583
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Posted - 2015.03.06 11:23:48 -
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Elyia Suze Nagala wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:DTson Gauur wrote:Ravasta Helugo wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something. These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately. You guys seem to forget something pretty important: We already KNOW there's a super weapon on the loose, the one the Amarr Empress acquired by some rather shady means from "the drones". Now, where is that piece of tech hmm? It hasn't been seen since the one and only time it was used. Makes one think just from WHO it actually came from... That weapon was actually destroyed in the "end of the World" chronicles- a good read and it came from a Terran outpost that was found near the EVE gate- it had been cloaked. Is this Cannon or 3rd Party fiction? I'm assuming its cannon since you're referencing it. I just bought Eve Sources and Templar One, have to starting reading when it gets here.
Canon
" And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit -
I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! "
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17404
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Posted - 2015.03.07 02:02:34 -
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Elyia Suze Nagala wrote: Is this Cannon or 3rd Party fiction? I'm assuming its cannon since you're referencing it. I just bought Eve Sources and Templar One, have to starting reading when it gets here.
Totally canon- and you'll be finding the superweapon's origin in Empyrean age; the End of the World chronicles are on the community website
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1058
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Posted - 2015.03.07 02:38:03 -
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Elyia Suze Nagala wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:DTson Gauur wrote:Ravasta Helugo wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something. These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately. You guys seem to forget something pretty important: We already KNOW there's a super weapon on the loose, the one the Amarr Empress acquired by some rather shady means from "the drones". Now, where is that piece of tech hmm? It hasn't been seen since the one and only time it was used. Makes one think just from WHO it actually came from... That weapon was actually destroyed in the "end of the World" chronicles- a good read and it came from a Terran outpost that was found near the EVE gate- it had been cloaked. Is this Cannon or 3rd Party fiction? I'm assuming its cannon since you're referencing it. I just bought Eve Sources and Templar One, have to starting reading when it gets here.
There are very few people who are considered experts on the cannon. Uriel is one of them. You can take what he says lore-wise to the bank (and when it comes to speculation, he ain't too shabby either)
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17709
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Posted - 2015.03.11 01:54:23 -
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On sisi the Lux Kontos have an icon and description now- nothing too new, but it's something!
Also, there's a "Jove Corpse" and "Drifter Battleship Wreck" - and there are a number of separate entities of the Jove Observatory falling apart if you haven't seen it yet!
Look here
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.03.11 11:45:08 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:On sisi the Lux Kontos have an icon and description now- nothing too new, but it's something! Also, there's a "Jove Corpse" and "Drifter Battleship Wreck" - and there are a number of separate entities of the Jove Observatory falling apart if you haven't seen it yet! Look here
That's an interesting twist. Why would they make these things fall apart. Its not like they are Minmatar rust buckets.. |
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
9348
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Posted - 2015.03.11 12:46:53 -
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Elyia Suze Nagala wrote:That's an interesting twist. Why would they make these things fall apart. Its not like they are Minmatar rust buckets.. Just sayin' |
Bobb Bobbington
Where No Wormholes Have Gone Before
16
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Posted - 2015.03.11 21:29:40 -
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Hm... I was watching wormhole videos in my spare time (researching for living in one for my first time) and saw a video about Sansha in a few of the shattered wormholes. So I thought, yea, interesting, but nothing work having a fit over.
During the video though he opened a show info on a LCO Sansha Logistical Control Array from the epicenter site in a shattered wormhole. It read "This array is responsible for determining friend or foe status for local remote logistics facilities. Although formidable, a capsuleer should be able to subvert the sophisticated electronics within".
Can we enter the so called "violent wormholes" (if I remember right from the only time I was in one) by hacking those structures to make it think we're Sansha? Have we really missed such an obvious clue?
Link for the video video He opens the show info at 1:03 |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6419
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Posted - 2015.03.11 22:27:31 -
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Bobb Bobbington wrote: Hm... I was watching wormhole videos in my spare time (researching for living in one for my first time) and saw a video about Sansha in a few of the shattered wormholes. So I thought, yea, interesting, but nothing work having a fit over. During the video though he opened a show info on a LCO Sansha Logistical Control Array from the epicenter site in a shattered wormhole. It read " This array is responsible for determining friend or foe status for local remote logistics facilities. Although formidable, a capsuleer should be able to subvert the sophisticated electronics within". Can we enter the so called "violent wormholes" (if I remember right from the only time I was in one) by hacking those structures to make it think we're Sansha? Have we really missed such an obvious clue? Link for the video videoHe opens the show info at 1:03
Well it's a shame everybody reprocessed those purloined hacking modules so they can have a head in a jar....
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1107
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Posted - 2015.03.11 23:57:56 -
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Great. Now I have a reason to take an Echelon into a well known and sought out wormhole if I manage to find it
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Allant Doran
Patriot Security Services New Signature
81
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Posted - 2015.03.12 00:49:50 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote: Hm... I was watching wormhole videos in my spare time (researching for living in one for my first time) and saw a video about Sansha in a few of the shattered wormholes. So I thought, yea, interesting, but nothing work having a fit over. During the video though he opened a show info on a LCO Sansha Logistical Control Array from the epicenter site in a shattered wormhole. It read " This array is responsible for determining friend or foe status for local remote logistics facilities. Although formidable, a capsuleer should be able to subvert the sophisticated electronics within". Can we enter the so called "violent wormholes" (if I remember right from the only time I was in one) by hacking those structures to make it think we're Sansha? Have we really missed such an obvious clue? Link for the video videoHe opens the show info at 1:03 Well it's a shame everybody reprocessed those purloined hacking modules so they can have a head in a jar....
I still have both of mine if I recall. Just sitting in Amarr, doing nothing. If they have a use then I'll have to dig them out.
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Lister Vindaloo
5 Tons of Flax
41
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:41:16 -
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I seem to remember CCP saying there was something we had missed in the new wormholes, something to do with a structure within certain ones, this sounds like it could be it, guess we've just gotta clear one and hack the structure?
Has anyone out there tried yet? |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
9460
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:58:40 -
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Lister Vindaloo wrote:I seem to remember CCP saying If you can source it, that'd be great. |
Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1110
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Posted - 2015.03.12 13:48:36 -
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I think he's referring to Fozzie's tweet about there being big and small secrets in the shattered wormholes. No mention of structures specifically there though.
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Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
453
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:00:27 -
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When you guys have this all figured out, could you put it all in a blog or chronicle or something, because I sure as hell am lost.
I am a pod pilot:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused.
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Bobb Bobbington
Where No Wormholes Have Gone Before
16
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:20:52 -
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Desert Ice78 wrote:When you guys have this all figured out, could you put it all in a blog or chronicle or something, because I sure as hell am lost.
But the fun of it is being able to taunt everyone else by saying you were smarter than them and figured it out first!
Oh and btw, if ANYONE FINDS A SHATTERED WORMHOLE CHECK IT FOR SANSHA. I think there may only be 2 sansha infested wormholes from what I've researched, so it'll will be nigh impossible for any one person to find one. We can't just have like 3 dedicated people looking for that one wormhole, we need like 50 people who often visit wormholes to just see what type it is if they stumble across a shattered.
If you do happen to find it, tell us! Those are incursion rats, for all we know we'll need a 40 man fleet as more warp in while we defend the hacker or hackers. |
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