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thatonepersone
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:40:50 -
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Why are some meta 4 moduals that are better than the t2 version cheaper? For example, in amarr a 'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I costs only ~200k and uses one less cpu and has all the same stats as the t2 version, but the t2 mod costs 1.7m and has about the same trade volume. |
Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:44:13 -
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thatonepersone wrote:Why are some meta 4 moduals that are better than the t2 version cheaper? For example, in amarr a 'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I costs only ~200k and uses one less cpu and has all the same stats as the t2 version, but the t2 mod costs 1.7m and has about the same trade volume.
No one knows.
However, CCP is correcting it as they tiericide the modules, so rejoice! Soon your fewer meta options will all be worse than T2.
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Hicksimus
Xion Limited Resonance.
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Posted - 2015.02.16 16:33:28 -
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Elenahina wrote: However, CCP is correcting it as they tiericide the modules, so rejoice! Soon your fewer meta options will all be worse than T2.
+1 I don't know what you said but I support your choice of Spaceship Barbie clothing.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.02.16 17:26:56 -
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This thread has been moved to Ships & Modules.
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Aston Martin DB5
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.16 20:48:55 -
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I'm not sure about meta levels. I only go by the modules name....GÇ+n+ÅGÖÉn+ÅGÖæn+ÅGÖÆn+ÅGÖôn+ÅG¢Ä=ƒö»
Meta4 you would think would be a rare item making the cost of it much higher than the t2 mod in reference. Remember with a t2 there's even further training modifiers for most of them making it slightly superior. |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.16 21:08:04 -
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It's there was a way to test who's paying attention ;)
This is especially true on ECM, where the stats are the same, but Meta4 overheats better :) |
Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class
1004
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Posted - 2015.02.16 21:16:55 -
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eccm is also the same, as well as neuts/nos |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.02.16 21:24:46 -
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redundant post
there is one on top just go there |
Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class
1004
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Posted - 2015.02.16 21:28:05 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:redundant post
there is one on top just go there
not been updated for almost 2 years, some are not true anymore. |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
56
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Posted - 2015.02.16 21:37:56 -
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what stops you to keep it rollin? |
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Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class
1004
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Posted - 2015.02.16 21:45:24 -
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can't edit the op? |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
56
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Posted - 2015.02.16 22:06:17 -
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how about go and try |
Goldensaver
Lom Corporation SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.16 23:02:17 -
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Perhaps it's because of this magical thing called a player driven market.
It costs something like 1.7m worth of materials (including time, skills, and cost to manufacture) to make a T2 SDA, they are never dropped as loot from red crosses, and the only way to get them is buying them from other players.
Meanwhile a meta 4 SDA is dropped by red crosses and the general market has decided on a price. If you disagree with the price, why don't you buy all the meta 4's and relist them at the price you think they should be valued at? |
To mare
Advanced Technology
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Posted - 2015.02.16 23:34:31 -
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looks like someone missed the big sticky thread on top of the page, plus supply and demand drive the price. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2015.02.17 02:33:15 -
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for years meta 4 was rare and expensive. now with the noctis, mobile tractor units, the robust tech 2 market, and whatnot, most meta 4 items are very well supplied.
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Mary Killigrew
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.17 04:32:52 -
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Hicksimus wrote:Elenahina wrote: However, CCP is correcting it as they tiericide the modules, so rejoice! Soon your fewer meta options will all be worse than T2.
+1 I don't know what you said but I support your choice of Spaceship Barbie clothing.
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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
376
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:30:02 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Tiddle Jr wrote:redundant post
there is one on top just go there not been updated for almost 2 years, some are not true anymore. Nonetheless that thread is the one the Devs have stated they're keeping an eye on.
If the OP is now outdated (though bear in mind that changes in demand due to recent ship tweeks may be short lived) then you could simply post an update to the OP - if you retain the same format and list what has appeared on the list, what has dropped off and why; follow the same rules and perhaps it will come to the attention of those who're currently looking at the issue.
I might expect the Recon changes to have spiked demand for a few items - though it remains to be seen whether those spikes will have a long term effect... |
BigWolfUK
Sons-of-Liberty
8
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Posted - 2015.02.17 21:38:35 -
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If any meta 4 item has an ok-ish droprate in high-sec, it'll usually be cheaper than the tech 2 variant (hell, lower metas can be cheaper than their tech 1 counterparts) Supply, Demand, and all that lovely stuff |
thatonepersone
Son's of Plunder
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Posted - 2015.02.24 16:58:25 -
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Goldensaver wrote: If you disagree with the price, why don't you buy all the meta 4's and relist them at the price you think they should be valued at?
I tryed this actually. I went to all the trade hubs and bought 2.5k of them. The prices got dropped back down because somebody decided they wanted the sell orders to be dirt cheap instead of makeing a larger profit.
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:33:25 -
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What mods you are talking about? |
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thatonepersone
Son's of Plunder
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:38:13 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:What mods you are talking about?
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier
i wouldnt mind more market competition to raise the median price in amarr. |
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
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Posted - 2015.02.26 03:17:10 -
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Mary Killigrew wrote:Hicksimus wrote:Elenahina wrote: However, CCP is correcting it as they tiericide the modules, so rejoice! Soon your fewer meta options will all be worse than T2.
+1 I don't know what you said but I support your choice of Spaceship Barbie clothing. Blood. Raiders.
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Make me a faux-military-ish looking--or pirate looking--bunch of outfits, and I would be all over that. Not junk stuff either. High-quality clothes at designer prices, and hells to the yes.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
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Posted - 2015.02.26 11:59:58 -
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Because oben just drops and the other one is based on a blueprint that neues to be Research, copied and invented before the builder spends either isk for the material or time to mine in.
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Leiron Thali
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.02.27 22:39:20 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:Because oben just drops and the other one is based on a blueprint that neues to be Research, copied and invented before the builder spends either isk for the material or time to mine in.
I think the op means that "why is a meta 4 item better than a meta 5"
Is the core of it. Meta 5, of course, being the T2 |
thatonepersone
Son's of Plunder
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Posted - 2015.02.28 00:04:53 -
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No, I meant why aren't people using the meta 4 mods exclusively in the cases where they are both better than there t2 variants and cheaper. I don't want them to fix it though until I finish selling my stock off lol. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.02.28 00:18:31 -
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thatonepersone wrote:No, I meant why aren't people using the meta 4 mods exclusively in the cases where they are both better than there t2 variants and cheaper. I don't want them to fix it though until I finish selling my stock off lol.
1)People are dumb and just buy what they perceive as the best without actually looking. (See ALODs with shiny modules that are no better than T2/Meta4)
2)Quite a few T2 modules are being produced because "it's cool" or "it's something new to do" even though they are being produced at a loss. People may be stockpiling them in hopes their value eventually rises to what they actually cost to build.
3)Meta 4 prices tend to swing widely relative to T2 prices and doctrines may have been developed while T2 was cheaper and have not been updated.
4)Regional price difference may be profitable for T2 items. So while sales volume may indicate they are being used, they may just be bought to flip in another region with no intention of actually using them.
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