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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
511
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Posted - 2015.02.19 04:46:01 -
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are there any agents left? Code seems to be a shell corp at this point. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1321
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Posted - 2015.02.19 08:48:06 -
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You may be the last, Veers. A solitary monolith standing strong in the face of encroaching darkness. Keep up your recruitment drive, there may be hope yet.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2405
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Posted - 2015.02.19 10:43:49 -
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Alexi Stokov wrote:Did Luke Skywalker apologize for leading the rebel cause? NO! He rallied the people and blew up the Death Star and saved the galaxy! Go forth young padwan and totally show the galaxy that you have the force and all that....
Except in our story, the New Order are the plucky rebels and, whilst he could be considered by some to be our Luke Skywalker, James 315 has commited no heinous crimes against style and fashion with the hair from hell.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Lord Parallax
Dead Pirates Syndicate
6
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Posted - 2015.02.19 11:06:47 -
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Here are a few suggestions. 1. NEVER EVER EVER AFK. 2. mine in barges that are fitted for tanking gankers not max yield ( this means no retrievers) 3. Run escort fleets with the haulers, i.e. have a scout run ahead have combat ships behind the scout to attack the gankers setup on the gates, have webber ships run with the hauler so they can insta warp it. and have ships to loot the hauler if it does get ganked. 4 the #1 rule in eve, NEVER FLY WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE..
and if you really want to have fun getting rid of them make fleets that actively hunt them. Get scouts that let you know where they are, where they are moving to and cut them off.
Find the systems they are most active in and then setup on the gates, and the stations with instalocking tackle frigs and dessies. If you keep preventing them from getting a gank off they will start getting irritated and find something else to do. This is a lengthy task but this is how you win a war with bottom feeders like this.
I started doing this and I have almost cleared them out of Niarja and Madi while I am online. If I had more people to cover the other time zones Niarja and madi would be liberated of their existence. |
Held der Finsternis
Honourable Space Men of Highsec
15
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Posted - 2015.02.19 11:11:28 -
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Lord Parallax wrote:Here are a few suggestions. 1. NEVER EVER EVER AFK. 2. mine in barges that are fitted for tanking gankers not max yield ( this means no retrievers) 3. Run escort fleets with the haulers, i.e. have a scout run ahead have combat ships behind the scout to attack the gankers setup on the gates, have webber ships run with the hauler so they can insta warp it. and have ships to loot the hauler if it does get ganked. 4 the #1 rule in eve, NEVER FLY WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE..
and if you really want to have fun getting rid of them make fleets that actively hunt them. Get scouts that let you know where they are, where they are moving to and cut them off.
Find the systems they are most active in and then setup on the gates, and the stations with instalocking tackle frigs and dessies. If you keep preventing them from getting a gank off they will start getting irritated and find something else to do. This is a lengthy task but this is how you win a war with bottom feeders like this.
I started doing this and I have almost cleared them out of Niarja and Madi while I am online. If I had more people to cover the other time zones Niarja and madi would be liberated of their existence.
Yes some or all of these are on the list, thanks! Shares are flying off the shelves at an annualized rate far higher than New Order shares so far! Head over to market discussion and buy some and help defeat these guys for good.
Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order!
Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
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Lord Parallax
Dead Pirates Syndicate
6
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Posted - 2015.02.19 11:19:22 -
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Held der Finsternis wrote:Lord Parallax wrote:Here are a few suggestions. 1. NEVER EVER EVER AFK. 2. mine in barges that are fitted for tanking gankers not max yield ( this means no retrievers) 3. Run escort fleets with the haulers, i.e. have a scout run ahead have combat ships behind the scout to attack the gankers setup on the gates, have webber ships run with the hauler so they can insta warp it. and have ships to loot the hauler if it does get ganked. 4 the #1 rule in eve, NEVER FLY WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE..
and if you really want to have fun getting rid of them make fleets that actively hunt them. Get scouts that let you know where they are, where they are moving to and cut them off.
Find the systems they are most active in and then setup on the gates, and the stations with instalocking tackle frigs and dessies. If you keep preventing them from getting a gank off they will start getting irritated and find something else to do. This is a lengthy task but this is how you win a war with bottom feeders like this.
I started doing this and I have almost cleared them out of Niarja and Madi while I am online. If I had more people to cover the other time zones Niarja and madi would be liberated of their existence. Yes some or all of these are on the list, thanks! Shares are flying off the shelves at an annualized rate far higher than New Order shares so far! Head over to market discussion and buy some and help defeat these guys for good.
Why would I possibly give money to any of you , when I can do what you are trying to do far more effectively by myself. I don't need to scam myself out of my own fundings. I can simply keep doing what I do 1 system at a time and make the area I like to fly in safer for me and the locals that live there. Once my reputation starts to build as a Anti-Code activist more will join the ranks with me and then we can start guarding the region and force Code somewhere else.
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Held der Finsternis
Honourable Space Men of Highsec
15
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Posted - 2015.02.19 11:23:19 -
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Of course I wish you well. Sadly, hundreds if not thousands of players have tried and failed at exactly what you are saying, practically saying the same things word for word. In fact, there are at least hundreds of players trying to do exactly what you hope to do without much success whatsoever.
There's a difference in my organization and strategy that will become apparent over time. I am confident many like yourself will see this and choose to join in on the winning team.
Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order!
Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
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Lord Parallax
Dead Pirates Syndicate
6
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Posted - 2015.02.19 11:27:59 -
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I see 2 sides of your agenda. 1 attempt to revitalize the reputation of bottom feeders and their cause 2 secretly gain funding for them b/c they are losing their current source.
Either way, if you were serious about ending code, you would do what I and many others are already doing. Beat them at their own game. |
Held der Finsternis
Honourable Space Men of Highsec
15
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Posted - 2015.02.19 11:39:04 -
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Lord Parallax wrote:I see 2 sides of your agenda. 1 attempt to revitalize the reputation of bottom feeders and their cause 2 secretly gain funding for them b/c they are losing their current source.
Either way, if you were serious about ending code, you would do what I and many others are already doing. Beat them at their own game.
You are both right and wrong at the same time. Your numbered points are ridiculous, but I can see where the paranoia comes from- they are quite good at what they do. It's the latter part where we run into the provable problems. What you state you wish to do, and what others are doing, is not affecting them whatsoever in any way. You are literally just wasting your time and providing them content. You do not defeat them by camping gates and protecting the odd freighter from a gank. Gank ships are cheap, so even if you foil a handful of waves, you are literally wasting the collective time of all the white knights logged in. The criminal countdown is 15 minutes. Yet white knights sit around and chat in local, while the ganking fleets go off and hit another target. You are doing LITERALLY no damage to them. Cats are cheap. Targets are juicy. You can't win by shooting cats or repping random freighters who don't thank you in any way whatsoever. They are afk.
You haven't chased a single agent from any system, anywhere. You have no reputation, and you won't gain any that is useful if you continue with your plan. Especially if you adopt the typical carebear mentality of attacking your allies.
Highsec is littered with the failed attempts of thousands of players and corps just like yourself. Without change, this will continue indefinitely.
What I offer you is change. You fail to see it currently. But while you fly your ship around solo, I've already raised 1.5b isk towards the cause. In one day, while doing other things. As my movement builds and I bring rather unique expertise to the table, you'll see the measure differences between our approaches over time. But unlike you, I am not attacking you. I am merely describing how I hope you change for your own benefit and for the benefit of everyone in highsec.
I welcome the day when you join me to finally bring about a New Era for Highsec.
YES WE CAN!
Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order!
Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
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Froggy Storm
Paragon Trust The Bastion
350
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Posted - 2015.02.19 15:36:31 -
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Perhaps found a movement to stop the production of all catalyst (catalysti? Catalysts? Cactus?) There would be the only way to beat code that isn't a code wins. But then again that would be even more impossible to get producers on board above their bottom line. Miners are hard enough to get to do anything that isn't directly (read isk yielding) self serving. |
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Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
149
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Posted - 2015.02.19 15:46:20 -
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I have a feeling that either one of two things will happen:
1. We find out this is just a huge scam, and we see a post on minerbumping about how he scammed fellow carebears like Dream Five out of billions of isk, or
2. We find out this is a complete failure, at which point we see a post on minerbumping where Code inflicted billions of damage on this puny alliance.
Either way, i might join up just for fun and content. |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
956
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Posted - 2015.02.19 16:03:40 -
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Wait, what?
According to the Miner rumor mill, The CODE. is currently collapsing, has already collapsed or is about to collapse.
Surely, all of them can-¦t be wrong!?
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
645
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Posted - 2015.02.19 18:51:27 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Wait, what?
According to the Miner rumor mill, The CODE. is currently collapsing, has already collapsed or is about to collapse.
Surely, all of them can-¦t be wrong!?
Only person I've seen saying that is our good friend Veers, usually whilest emitting strange baboon type noises and loudly smacking his bum.
Must be a highsec thing.
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2408
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Posted - 2015.02.19 23:05:24 -
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Froggy Storm wrote:Perhaps found a movement to stop the production of all catalyst (catalysti? Catalysts? Cactus?) There would be the only way to beat code that isn't a code wins. But then again that would be even more impossible to get producers on board above their bottom line. Miners are hard enough to get to do anything that isn't directly (read isk yielding) self serving.
A number of our top gankers are also our top equipment producers.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
937
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Posted - 2015.02.19 23:19:40 -
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Froggy Storm wrote:Perhaps found a movement to stop the production of all catalyst (catalysti? Catalysts? Cactus?) There would be the only way to beat code that isn't a code wins. But then again that would be even more impossible to get producers on board above their bottom line. Miners are hard enough to get to do anything that isn't directly (read isk yielding) self serving. If everyone else stopped building catalysts, it'd just be more isk for me.
Sabriz for CSMX!
Consider voting Tora as well.
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malcovas Henderson
THoF
342
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Posted - 2015.02.19 23:45:49 -
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OP. buy every Catalyst in the game. keep on buying them and put them up on market at 100mill a pop. Do the same for the fittings, they are known to use.
that will show them for sure.
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Drez Arthie
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2015.02.20 00:42:11 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:[quote=Nerath Naaris] Only person I've seen saying that is our good friend Veers, usually whilest emitting strange baboon type noises and loudly smacking his bum.
Must be a highsec thing.
Do you have pics? Let me go in the bathroom and ... um .. think about that
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Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
937
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Posted - 2015.02.20 00:49:04 -
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Drez Arthie wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:[quote=Nerath Naaris] Only person I've seen saying that is our good friend Veers, usually whilest emitting strange baboon type noises and loudly smacking his bum.
Must be a highsec thing. Do you have pics? Let me go in the bathroom and ... um .. think about that ew
Sabriz for CSMX!
Consider voting Tora as well.
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Held der Finsternis
Honourable Space Men of Highsec
16
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Posted - 2015.02.20 07:19:37 -
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UPDATE
1st blog post up...
http://www.heroesofhighsec.com/
Supreme Commander of Highsec
http://www.heroesofhighsec.com
save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
647
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Posted - 2015.02.20 11:47:40 -
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Drez Arthie wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:[quote=Nerath Naaris] Only person I've seen saying that is our good friend Veers, usually whilest emitting strange baboon type noises and loudly smacking his bum.
Must be a highsec thing. Do you have pics? Let me go in the bathroom and ... um .. think about that
How about no, you odd individual you.
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
844
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Posted - 2015.02.20 12:11:53 -
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Froggy Storm wrote:Perhaps found a movement to stop the production of all catalyst (catalysti? Catalysts? Cactus?) There would be the only way to beat code that isn't a code wins. But then again that would be even more impossible to get producers on board above their bottom line. Miners are hard enough to get to do anything that isn't directly (read isk yielding) self serving. Many of us produce their Catalysts on their own out of many reasons:
- Industry is trivial and almost zero effort, you can do it while on criminal timer. You don't need to be a carebear to start a production job.
- It secures the supply of ships and you don't depend on the markets.
- Our targets drop most of the ore we need to build them.
- It makes the ganking more cost effective*.
This is of course also true for the modules. I used to produce t1 stuff only, but with the last round of highsec industry buffs where slots where removed, t2 production in my central production hub became viable.
*The idea is not to make money, but to use the money invested in ganking activity in a more efficient way, so you can do more damage per ISK.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
152
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Posted - 2015.02.20 13:13:59 -
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Held der Finsternis wrote:
Why so much red. Are you angry? You need to calm down. I think your subconscious is telling you something. |
Valkin Mordirc
655
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Posted - 2015.02.20 13:33:13 -
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Held der Finsternis wrote:
In the great words of Tengu Grib.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
399
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:16:12 -
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Held der Finsternis wrote:
Lots of content but not enough explosions! I can see the funding is taking off now, but some people are not going to be persuaded to part with isk unless they hear about explosions! |
Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
152
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:27:58 -
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Held der Finsternis wrote:
Okay, now that ive had the chance to read this, i am now convinced this is a scam.
On a completely unrelated note, have you tried contacting Dream Five? I hear she has tens of trillions of isk, as her freighter loss only accounted for .1% of her assets. |
Da'iel Zehn
Evil Frosty's Premium Liqours and Fine Wines
189
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:29:08 -
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I have lots of ideas... But, don't get me wrong. I love James and CODE. They provide a great service to the community.
One of my recent ideas was to quietly mine in a cheap, untanked retriever. When I was spied out, I quickly warped and got my fully tanked skiff. When the catalyst arrived it targeted me and opened fire without even realizing I had changed ships.
I pointed, mocked, and laughed to myself... then looted their wreck and gave Concord a tip. It was beautiful. |
Cannibal Kane
Blood Raiders Elite
4762
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:32:43 -
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Less talk more action.
It been a while since a corp and alliance was build to do what you want to do. Last ones all went up in flames and I relish at the idea of facing another White Knight/Anti-Code corp. There is a reason why people in AG are mostly in NPC or 1 man corps... like you are.
"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
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I am providence
Viziam Amarr Empire
37
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:41:54 -
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Content is... just another sob-story - "players in eve are bad people" and so on. I would give it a solid 6/10. In the long run, we need original content, more background, more tears. ***** please, i want to know more about the freightergank, i want the chatlogs, i want a video with recorded webcams and Teamspeak, i want to ******* know how the tears finally tasted. Thats what makes minerbumping so interesting, it is far more intersting than all the white knight - stuff some people expect from this whole project.
Anyway, what I expect from this whole mess in the next few weeks:
a) "Held der dunkelheit" is more like a "Held vom Erdbeerfeld" (my german fellows will understand ) and in a month nobody will care about the whole story anymore, because nothing realy happened. Oh, wait - except that alle the millions and billions he received are lost. b) He is indeed another humble agent of CODE., who is out to troll and punish anyone without a mining licence. He may be one of my alts. Even one of James 135-¦s alts.
My Blog (german): http://theevevirus.wordpress.com/
Trader and a terrible wannabee-PvP-hero.
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Held der Finsternis
Honourable Space Men of Highsec
18
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:55:19 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Less talk more action.
It been a while since a corp and alliance was build to do what you want to do. Last ones all went up in flames and I relish at the idea of facing another White Knight/Anti-Code corp. There is a reason why people in AG are mostly in NPC or 1 man corps... like you are.
Yes, there will be lots of action. I have just published the 3rd blog post. Rome was not built in a day and so this rebellion will take some time, even a year or longer if need be. But I will not rush to lose ships and other such foolishness like all the prior rebel corps and movements have done. I will follow a bold strategy that will take time. But, unlike the failed rebels before me, I will not be scammed, awoxxed, or otherwise defeated in battle to such an extent that I have to give up like they did. I am taking the slow, methodical approach. I'm sure lots of people will laugh, just as many did when James was alone himself. But so far we are raising funds faster than James and I am confident we shall see victory.
I look forward to seeing you on the battlefield, whichever side you choose. And my fleets will be undocked and engaging. As I've told investors in private, I see wardec as great practice for budding rebels, not anything to be feared. But we will do so in ships that we can easily replace.
Good luck to everyone in the coming war. May the best side win. But most importantly, may everyone have fun.
Supreme Commander of Highsec
heroesofhighsec.com
save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
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Ro Fenrios
Armilies corporation Skeleton Crew.
51
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:22:08 -
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I'm having my doubts about this till I see something concrete. Say, interfering with one of code wardecs and turning it far positive to defending side, preventing ganks, or actually organizing carebears into some measure of protecting themselves. Even posting anti gank fits would be start. You can make retriever for example surprisingly tanky if you hull tank it. Enough for some people to even use them as baits in low sec. |
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