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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
652
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Posted - 2015.02.23 07:38:32 -
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Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:CODE is about as relevant as a VCR. I can't say I know anyone who takes them seriously, especially considering they don't seem to honor their own extortion agreements. Well, over 70,000 pilots and their 11+ trillion ISK might disagree with you.
Looks like you are off to a good start Held. I guess as time goes on we will see who the heart of citizens of highsec really lies with - you and your Heroes of Highsec or James 315 and the New Order.
Let the battle for the soul of highsec commence!
Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2016
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Posted - 2015.02.23 07:42:12 -
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Their lack of relevance is exactly why he is posting in this thread about them. |
Gerhard Stringfellow
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.02.23 07:45:00 -
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You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go.
And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves. |
Jishi Padecain
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2015.02.23 07:52:38 -
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Held der Finsternis wrote:Alastair Ormand wrote:CODE will be implanting a spy shortly. Well done moron. I'm sure there will be spies, but they won't be able to take anything or do anything remotely disruptive. I know their tricks and their methods. I am implementing security measures in my own corp (and soon alliance) that will prevent most of what they have done to everyone else.
I am sure I will enjoy reading about all of these 'effective' security methods in a future minerbumping article. |
Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
177
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Posted - 2015.02.23 07:56:32 -
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Held der Finsternis wrote:Alastair Ormand wrote:CODE will be implanting a spy shortly. Well done moron. I'm sure there will be spies, but they won't be able to take anything or do anything remotely disruptive. I know their tricks and their methods. I am implementing security measures in my own corp (and soon alliance) that will prevent most of what they have done to everyone else. The risks of posting what I choose to C&P are far less than the benefit the Heroes of HIghsec get from the exposure. I'm glad so many are posting their criticisms here publicly though. It will be all the sweeter when we achieve final victory over the New Order. I'm not taking any of this personally, it's par for the course when dealing with this subject matter. I look forward to welcoming most of the dissenters into the warm embrace of the Heroes of Highsec once we have racked up victory after victory...
You should employ JTClone ares into your corp as a director. Surely after being the victim of 2 successful awox/corp/alliance takeover events, he mustve learned something by now. |
Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
177
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Posted - 2015.02.23 07:58:20 -
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Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go.
And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves.
Yeah, because extortion, scams and trickery are so rare in Eve online. |
Gerhard Stringfellow
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:05:10 -
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Solonius Rex wrote:Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go.
And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves. Yeah, because extortion, scams and trickery are so rare in Eve online.
Yeah, but trying to rely on the same con in the same place with the same people again and again isn't very smart. |
Held der Finsternis
Honourable Space Men of Highsec
30
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:22:44 -
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Solonius Rex wrote:Held der Finsternis wrote:Alastair Ormand wrote:CODE will be implanting a spy shortly. Well done moron. I'm sure there will be spies, but they won't be able to take anything or do anything remotely disruptive. I know their tricks and their methods. I am implementing security measures in my own corp (and soon alliance) that will prevent most of what they have done to everyone else. The risks of posting what I choose to C&P are far less than the benefit the Heroes of HIghsec get from the exposure. I'm glad so many are posting their criticisms here publicly though. It will be all the sweeter when we achieve final victory over the New Order. I'm not taking any of this personally, it's par for the course when dealing with this subject matter. I look forward to welcoming most of the dissenters into the warm embrace of the Heroes of Highsec once we have racked up victory after victory... You should employ JTClone ares into your corp as a director. Surely after being the victim of 2 successful awox/corp/alliance takeover events, he mustve learned something by now.
Funny you mention that. One of JTClone's alliances was made available for sale to me. I thought on the one hand, it would be somewhat fitting, but on the other hand forebode failure... so I will be taking an alternative approach.
Supreme Commander of Highsec
heroesofhighsec.com
save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
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Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
178
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:27:10 -
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Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:Solonius Rex wrote:Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go.
And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves. Yeah, because extortion, scams and trickery are so rare in Eve online. Yeah, but trying to rely on the same con in the same place with the same people again and again isn't very smart.
Yeah, cause no one spams the same contract scam in jita, over and over and over again. No one spams the same isk doubling claim, over and over and over again. No one spams the same margin trading market scam, over and over and over again. |
Gerhard Stringfellow
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:37:25 -
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Solonius Rex wrote:Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:Solonius Rex wrote:Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go.
And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves. Yeah, because extortion, scams and trickery are so rare in Eve online. Yeah, but trying to rely on the same con in the same place with the same people again and again isn't very smart. Yeah, cause no one spams the same contract scam in jita, over and over and over again. No one spams the same isk doubling claim, over and over and over again. No one spams the same margin trading market scam, over and over and over again.
If you want to fantasize that your corp of <300 is gonna make hi sec it's *****, go for it. I'll end with saying that it's not a big deal there, at least aside from the random person in rookie channel complaining they got ganked. And it's definitely not worthy of some rebellion, it's as much of a rebellion in and of itself as a stray crackhouse is to a respectable neighborhood. |
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
654
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:47:17 -
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Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go. Since there are many threads on this already, and this thread is about a new rebel organization, I won't bother fully rebutting this tired old trope that is brought out from time-to-time. Permits are honoured - please point to one credible example where a permit holder was ganked while following the Code - but they are not a license to AFK mine or engage in otherwise undesirable activity in New Order territory.
If you look at those stats in that killboard link, you will see that Ventures (frigates actually) make up only about 5% of CODE.'s kills yet they represent the majority of mining bots. If anything, CODE. should be stepping up its patrols against the little yellow menace to the highsec economy.
Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1528
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Posted - 2015.02.23 10:33:09 -
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Is that still a thing?
TunDraGon is recruiting!
"Also, your boobs [:o] " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Brawlers Inc.
1462
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Posted - 2015.02.23 11:24:30 -
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Quote:Since the Heroes of Highsec do not yet have a teamspeak, one our brave secret agents created a channel on CODE.'s own teamspeak. Please stop, I can't breathe from laughing.
New Player Placement Specialist and Scope Project FC.
Contact me for a free consultation.
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Chocolate Mooses
The Conference Elite CODE.
16
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Posted - 2015.02.23 12:44:48 -
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Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go.
And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves.
Please show us what you do that is highly represented whenever you go, and how much "legitimate" content you create. Only use "fair" fights as a example. Also scamming is bad, mmmkay and grrrr goons.
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Gaylord Fappington
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
66
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:21:40 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Quote:Since the Heroes of Highsec do not yet have a teamspeak, one our brave secret agents created a channel on CODE.'s own teamspeak. Please stop, I can't breathe from laughing.
They've already infiltrated Code. This really may be a revolution to watch. Read up on your Crane Brinton guys, The HoH obviously have. |
Sasha Nyemtsov
Systems Administration and Control
126
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:54:51 -
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Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go.
And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves.
Hi Gerhard, I believe that, following extended discussion with him, CCP required James 315's activities to be founded on a commercial basis.
Thus, the first line of the New Halaima Code of Conduct: 'Although profit is a primary motive of my new business...'.
www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz Adoudel for CSM X
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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
929
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Posted - 2015.02.23 19:06:02 -
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Hope I'm not too late for this:
I endorse this product and/or service.
Vote Sabriz!
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Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
943
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Posted - 2015.02.23 19:10:41 -
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Sasha Nyemtsov wrote:Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go.
And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves. Hi Gerhard, I believe that, following extended discussion with him, CCP required James 315's activities to be founded on a commercial basis. Thus, the first line of the New Halaima Code of Conduct: 'Although profit is a primary motive of my new business...'. Yup, otherwise it's just extortion.
Sabriz for CSMX!
Consider voting Tora as well.
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Gaylord Fappington
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2015.02.23 19:21:15 -
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Tengu Grib wrote: Yup, otherwise it's just extortion.
1. Educate Miners 2. Save HiSec and Eve Online 3. ?????? 4. Profit!
Before you start yelling, Veers, the ?????? isn't extortion, its The Code.
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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
929
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Posted - 2015.02.23 19:23:36 -
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Tengu Grib wrote: Yup, otherwise it's just extortion.
Hmmm......I wonder if anyone who has tried to interfere with Code has ever been required to have a similar profit motive....
Vote Sabriz!
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Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
943
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Posted - 2015.02.23 19:25:03 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Tengu Grib wrote: Yup, otherwise it's just extortion.
Hmmm......I wonder if anyone who has tried to interfere with Code has ever been required to have a similar profit motive....
Not that I know of. To the best of my knowledge no one else has been told they need to do that.
Sabriz for CSMX!
Consider voting Tora as well.
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Sasha Nyemtsov
Systems Administration and Control
127
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Posted - 2015.02.23 20:45:25 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:Tengu Grib wrote: Yup, otherwise it's just extortion.
Hmmm......I wonder if anyone who has tried to interfere with Code has ever been required to have a similar profit motive.... Not that I know of. To the best of my knowledge no one else has been told they need to do that.
Hi Tengu, that's a very interesting observation.
My guess is that it was the boldness and sheer creative audacity of James' gameplay which, through the mewling of the ice-miners, drew CCP's attention to his activities.
The result was what James described as 'An Exciting Business Opportunity'. He says that he has 'hammered out a EULA-compliant business plan that will enable all EVE to invest in Halaima's bright new future', and, later in the same essay, 'I... have been in direct contact with the people who actually enforce the EULA, to ensure that my business is in full compliance.'
The complete essay, 'I have taken command of the Halaima ice field: An exciting business opportunity!', can be read here.
The OP may be 'sick and tired' of James 315, but his business is proper legit.
And as for him being a tyrant? Well, in all my dealings with him, he has never swerved from being well-mannered, supportive and fun. Mischievous? Certainly. A tyrant? Never.
www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz Adoudel for CSM X
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Origin. Black Legion.
1968
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Posted - 2015.02.23 21:16:39 -
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Held der Finsternis wrote:I'm pleased to report that the Revised CODE of the New Order is completed and posted on HeroesofHighsec.com Also, see my bio for important updates such as new mailing list, chat channels, etc. Sadly the meat of my delicious commentary (and feedback) was omitted from much of the thought process, and the organizers simply ignored any feedback contrary to their own from impartial neutrals like myself.
I would recommend a reading of the complete transcript (ostensibly with a 'Find' on 'Feyd' for the compelling nuggets amongst the trash).
F
Would you like to know more?
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Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
944
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Posted - 2015.02.23 21:26:57 -
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Sasha Nyemtsov wrote: And as for him being a tyrant? Well, in all my dealings with him, he has never swerved from being well-mannered, supportive and fun. Mischievous? Certainly. A tyrant? Never.
You're talking of James here correct? Because if you are, I am in full agreement with you. The Saviour has been nothing but patient and kind in my experience.
Sabriz for CSMX!
Consider voting Tora as well.
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Sasha Nyemtsov
Systems Administration and Control
128
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Posted - 2015.02.23 22:19:56 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Sasha Nyemtsov wrote: And as for him being a tyrant? Well, in all my dealings with him, he has never swerved from being well-mannered, supportive and fun. Mischievous? Certainly. A tyrant? Never.
You're talking of James here correct? Because if you are, I am in full agreement with you. The Saviour has been nothing but patient and kind in my experience.
Yes, Tengu, James.
www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz Adoudel for CSM X
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
532
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Posted - 2015.02.24 06:08:11 -
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Sasha Nyemtsov wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:Sasha Nyemtsov wrote: And as for him being a tyrant? Well, in all my dealings with him, he has never swerved from being well-mannered, supportive and fun. Mischievous? Certainly. A tyrant? Never.
You're talking of James here correct? Because if you are, I am in full agreement with you. The Saviour has been nothing but patient and kind in my experience. Yes, Tengu, James.
His entire playstyle is a form of institutionalized tyranny. |
Jishi Padecain
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2015.02.24 06:15:56 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
His entire playstyle is a form of institutionalized tyranny.
A sinner passing judgment on a Saint. How hilariously absurd.
You really do live in a backwards world, Veers. |
Held der Finsternis
Honourable Space Men of Highsec
33
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Posted - 2015.02.24 07:11:25 -
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New blog post up. If you have been a scam victim or know someone who has, check it out!
Supreme Commander of Highsec
heroesofhighsec.com
save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
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Danalee
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
1126
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Posted - 2015.02.24 08:01:35 -
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Held der Finsternis wrote:New blog post up. If you have been a scam victim or know someone who has, check it out!
Oh lordy! A blog that mocks and milks the target audience for isk is at the same time a good source for new targets...
Well played!
D.
STOP OPPRESSING MEEEEEEE
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Bagatur I
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2015.02.24 14:02:21 -
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Black Pedro wrote:Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:CODE is about as relevant as a VCR. I can't say I know anyone who takes them seriously, especially considering they don't seem to honor their own extortion agreements. Well, over 70,000 pilots and their 11+ trillion ISK might disagree with you. Looks like you are off to a good start Held. I guess as time goes on we will see who the heart of citizens of highsec really lies with - you and your Heroes of Highsec or James 315 and the New Order. Let the battle for the soul of highsec commence!
apparently you cant distinguish between ship kills and pilots. in reality a much much smaller number of PILOTS encountered CODE. I would think that number of pilots who lost ships to NPC rats in the same amount of time is much bigger. CODE is as relevant as NPC rats, with the difference being PCs, not NPCs. |
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