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Jallukola
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Posted - 2015.02.17 12:46:55 -
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Yes it's a bit early to talk about this, but I wonder what sort of bonuses should the ship see. Purists and history lovers would argue missile systems over hybrids, but I think Claradi has already plenty of missile boats at disposal, and Caldari deserves more hybird platform love IMO.
When the time comes, Gallente can keep their drone bonuses for all I care like they have for ages already, but I think purism with Caldari's T3 would be a waste.
But I also feel this would be a perfect opportunity to break a certain formula; Yes all 4 factions have access to Drone capabilities, and out of the 4 factions, 3 have Missile ships. Perharps CCP should blow a hole unto this titanic instead let it be miscruised. Give Caldari their Hybrid bonuses in time, but make Gallente's T3 Destroyer a Missile Ship.
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elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
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Posted - 2015.02.17 15:02:28 -
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No!
I want citadel torpedo launchers on that destroyer or six times that new jove super-doomsday turret.
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erg cz
Tribal Core
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Posted - 2015.02.17 15:24:19 -
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Jallukola wrote:... I think Claradi has already plenty of missile boats at disposal, and Caldari deserves more hybird platform love IMO. ... purism with Caldari's T3 ..., but make Gallente's T3 Destroyer a Missile Ship.
elitatwo wrote:No!
I want citadel torpedo launchers on that destroyer or six times that new jove super-doomsday turret.
Forum troll detected. Both of them. |
Hagika
Doughboys Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2015.02.17 19:39:45 -
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Caldari already has 2 missile destroyers and only 1 hybrid. The new T3 Dessie should be rail fit with ridiculous range. |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.02.18 01:34:07 -
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U think we need another railgu but smaller size? |
Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
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Posted - 2015.02.18 01:38:21 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:U think we need another railgu but smaller size?
LML boat would be more overpowered.
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Brumortateu Rhadoshm
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.18 02:21:47 -
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How about some bonuses to shields in general and to capacitor size, to build on some Caldari strengths?
Caldari are efficient, so they could come up with better power grids/cpu grids, agility etc.
Maybe give them some drone bonuses, perhaps a new drone technology that allows it to use drones more efficiently, perhaps some kind of drone scripting that allows drones to have better tracking, better range, better speed as needed.
Since Caldari are the ultimate capitalists, perhaps tie that into it somehow, maybe some kind of remote freighter boost, planet colony boost, or damage bonuses against pos's and such. |
d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.18 02:36:27 -
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Caldari will get rails, Gallente will get guns. It's what follows the amarr and then minmatar t3 tactical destroyers 'roles'. |
Trey Kutoi
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
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Posted - 2015.02.18 03:28:18 -
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Brumortateu Rhadoshm wrote:How about some bonuses to shields in general and to capacitor size, to build on some Caldari strengths?
Caldari are efficient, so they could come up with better power grids/cpu grids, agility etc.
**** CPU is a caldari trait apparently |
Dante Romanov
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.18 05:56:41 -
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I might get flamed for this but oh well..
I wouldn't mind either Railguns or Missiles, but maybe some ECM bonus's, and i would like a 3rd defensive stat, like passive shield regen boost or active shield regen boost, i think based of the sketches we have seen so far an ECM boat would look beautiful, but i doubt it, but in all honesty i think it will be a Railgun platform, mainly do to the fact that it fits with the theme of these T3's.. Maybe Missiles (And i am hoping for them more) but the bonus would be smaller, you can't have missiles with a 66% range bonus.. That is 125km+ with Faction Launchers.. and that is more then 1200-1500 damage per volley then.. Maybe more, so yeah.. Money on the Rails, heart on the Missiles |
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Iyokus Patrouette
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
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Posted - 2015.02.18 06:24:32 -
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lol
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.02.18 10:30:46 -
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Brumortateu Rhadoshm wrote:How about some bonuses to shields in general and to capacitor size, to build on some Caldari strengths?
Caldari are efficient, so they could come up with better power grids/cpu grids, agility etc.
Maybe give them some drone bonuses, perhaps a new drone technology that allows it to use drones more efficiently, perhaps some kind of drone scripting that allows drones to have better tracking, better range, better speed as needed.
Since Caldari are the ultimate capitalists, perhaps tie that into it somehow, maybe some kind of remote freighter boost, planet colony boost, or damage bonuses against pos's and such.
Sounds like guristas. |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.02.18 10:54:42 -
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I think ccp would pick hybrids for it.
Wonder what they offer for propulsion mode, velocity bonus or sig bonus while mwd. Or maybe warp speed bonus.
In regard of defence how about shield hp bonus or shield booster efficiency and cap requirement. |
Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.18 14:43:02 -
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It's going to get rail-gun bonuses (or blasters if you are a hipster) from the sniper mode, a shield resistance bonus from the defense mode, and probably a velocity bonus from the propulsion mode.
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scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract
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Posted - 2015.02.18 18:12:42 -
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It won't get missiles because the Corax and SB's are missile boats, what we really need is another Naga-like rail platform to free up the Gallente hull to fit blasters and drones. And if you specced missiles because they're the Caldari primary... well you're SOL. Anyways.... I would love to see it as a potent missile boat but I honestly don't expect it to be. If I was guessing, range mode will give it rail optimal, defensive might give it a resistance boost or possibly a shield boost amount, and I'm not sure about speed exactly.
Edit: I think everyone might be pleasantly surprised if they decide to make it dual-weapon bonused. Both at the same time would not, and should not, be viable but this would make for interesting possibilities and would set a precedent for mayne having the Gallente the same way. |
Trey Kutoi
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
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Posted - 2015.02.18 19:23:54 -
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if anything, the Minmatar D3 should have been the split weapon system |
Lew Dicrous
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.19 07:48:16 -
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In staying with the naming theme, I hope it's called "The Chicken."
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Etocoreda Grey
Kings of Lamaa
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Posted - 2015.02.19 09:37:10 -
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I'd like it if the caldari dessie was an upgrade from my hookbill that used ROCKETS. Although i don't know if T3 dessie is really meant to fill that role. Worm and garmur are missle only. |
Tiberius Rexius
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.02.19 10:46:42 -
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My Guess on the coming Caldari destroyer is:
Highs: 7 6x guns 1 utility Meds : 5 Lows : 3
defence bonus would be % boost ammount and shield resist % ammount
speed mode: velocity and inertia like the confessor. tho id hope for velocity and warp speed.
sharpshootermode: would be the same as the svipul giving it a optimal bonus and tracking buff
As for the weaponsystem its going to be hybrid for sure as CCP dosent understand missiles Would make the ship pretty well pointed to the mix of a hawk and the harpy and well ballanced vs the other t3 wile giving it some caldari uniqueness
However a ECM dessy from caldari would be unique especially if it had a nice bonus to ecm burst modules like a scorpion swap one tank slot for 1 ecm burst slot with a bonus to range and jam strenght along with reduced cycle time and cap usage.
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lolcorpholder alt
ebil piwates inc.
75
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Posted - 2015.02.19 11:22:34 -
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defender bonused mode passive shield tank mode falcon mode
caling it now |
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Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.19 16:36:06 -
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Etocoreda Grey wrote:I'd like it if the caldari dessie was an upgrade from my hookbill that used ROCKETS. Although i don't know if T3 dessie is really meant to fill that role. Worm and garmur are missle only. The Worm is very far from a missile boat. It gets like 40 DPS with rockets. You can have Gallente frig at level 1 and still fly it just as effectively. It's kind of weird actually. The drones are what makes the ship OP
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Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
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Posted - 2015.02.19 20:07:12 -
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Watch CCP give it only bonuses to defender missiles. I would laugh myself dead .
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Jallukola
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Posted - 2015.02.19 22:04:44 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:Watch CCP give it only bonuses to defender missiles. I would laugh myself dead . You wouldn't certainly be the only one at that.
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Mary Killigrew
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:55:19 -
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Tiberius Rexius wrote: ... defence bonus would be % boost ammount and shield resist % ammount ...
Get out. |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:07:36 -
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I'm personally thrilled for my future Mega-Harpy or 10mn LML rageboat.
There really isn't much CCP can do to make this one not-amazing to the point of quite easily being problematic unless they seriously break the mold on what Caldari ships usually do or just make it bad. |
Aursentris
Council of Stellar Erections
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:14:42 -
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Caldari Tactical Destroyer Bonuses Per Level: 5% bonus to Smartbomb damage 10% bonus to Smartbomb optimal range 10% bonus to Afterburner velocity bonus
Role Bonus: Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Device Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 15 seconds
Additional bonuses are available when one of three Tactical Destroyer Modes are active. Modes may be changed no more than once every 10 seconds. Defense Mode: 60% bonus to shield resistances while Defense Mode is active 200% bonus to smartbomb damage Propulsion Mode: 40% bonus to maximum velocity while Propulsion Mode is active 25% bonus to Afterburner speed while Propulsion Mode is active Sharpshooter Mode: 100% bonus to Smartbomb optimal range while Sharpshooter Mode is active 60% bonus to the capacitor recharge rate while Sharpshooter Mode is active |
Agent Unknown
Night Theifs DamnedNation
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:46:12 -
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Aursentris wrote:Caldari Tactical Destroyer Bonuses Per Level: 5% bonus to Smartbomb damage 10% bonus to Smartbomb optimal range 10% bonus to Afterburner velocity bonus
Role Bonus: Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Device Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 15 seconds
Additional bonuses are available when one of three Tactical Destroyer Modes are active. Modes may be changed no more than once every 10 seconds. Defense Mode: 60% bonus to shield resistances while Defense Mode is active 200% bonus to smartbomb damage Propulsion Mode: 40% bonus to maximum velocity while Propulsion Mode is active 25% bonus to Afterburner speed while Propulsion Mode is active Sharpshooter Mode: 100% bonus to Smartbomb optimal range while Sharpshooter Mode is active 60% bonus to the capacitor recharge rate while Sharpshooter Mode is active
15km standard smartbombs in sharpshooter? Sign me up. |
Mary Killigrew
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:47:52 -
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I wish CCP was this innovative. |
Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
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Posted - 2015.02.22 10:15:22 -
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Hagika wrote:Caldari already has 2 missile destroyers and only 1 hybrid. The new T3 Dessie should be rail fit with ridiculous range.
And then what will the gallente destroyer be? A glorified algos?
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Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.22 23:33:40 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:Hagika wrote:Caldari already has 2 missile destroyers and only 1 hybrid. The new T3 Dessie should be rail fit with ridiculous range. And then what will the gallente destroyer be? A glorified algos?
Pocket Vexor / Pocket Deimos would both be perfectly good options. |
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