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Syrilian
Astartes' Guardians
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:38:39 -
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Does anyone have any advice for an explorer venturing into low sec for the first time? Right now, when I am in low sec, I bolt the first time I see a neutral in local. But I am finding that I can't stay very long in a system if I do that. Do I need to be more bold? |
Elinari Rhodan
Omni Galactic Ditanian Coalition
6
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:45:50 -
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Short answer? Yes.
Caution is all well and good; but as you say, you won't really get that far.
General tips from me: 1. Don't sit still too long. Warp away from the gate to a moon or some safe spot , especially if you are worried about the neuts in local 2. Safe spots are good. Make them during warps between gates, or on the warp between gates and planets. They have saved me more times than I'd care to remember 3. D-scan is your friend. 4. Enjoy it! Sure there's a bigger risk, but low sec is fun :) No matter where you go in EVE there will be people out to get you, it's just a little easier for them in low sec. It's a thrill. 5. You *will* lose a ship at some point. I lost mine to a smartbombing gate camp. It happens, you laugh and live and learn. Risks are worth the reward, right? |
Syrilian
Astartes' Guardians
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:49:00 -
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Elinari Rhodan wrote:Short answer? Yes.
Caution is all well and good; but as you say, you won't really get that far.
General tips from me: 1. Don't sit still too long. Warp away from the gate to a moon or some safe spot , especially if you are worried about the neuts in local 2. Safe spots are good. Make them during warps between gates, or on the warp between gates and planets. They have saved me more times than I'd care to remember 3. D-scan is your friend. 4. Enjoy it! Sure there's a bigger risk, but low sec is fun :) No matter where you go in EVE there will be people out to get you, it's just a little easier for them in low sec. It's a thrill. 5. You *will* lose a ship at some point. I lost mine to a smartbombing gate camp. It happens, you laugh and live and learn. Risks are worth the reward, right?
Thank you. I am still a little fuzzy on safe spots. Is it possible to make a bookmark while you are in warp? Do I just bookmark a random object? |
Lupe Meza
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:50:48 -
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You can use D-Scan to see if anything not a combat recon is within whatever distance you're scanning at. It is a bit of a pain to use D-scan since you have to spam the button every few seconds to get an updated report, especially since you're hacking in the first place, but it can give you enough notice to get out of dodge.
Be warned that there are some elite players that will sit cloaked in a site just waiting for an unwary explorer, and some scan down sites in advance and patrol trying to catch people in them.
I'd honestly recommend once you get your scanning and hacking skills up, you take the WH highway into Null and look for the recently added sites in WH space. On the surface it may seem more dangerous, but in a lot of ways for about the same amount of effort you will be taking to stay alive in low, you can get better rewards and probably be less at risk since many pirates are scared to hunt in null or wh space so you trim some of that fat; plus a neutral in deep null is more likely to dock up than hunt you down. Try to forget gates exist if you go this route though. Use WH's to get around. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:51:44 -
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Syrilian wrote:Does anyone have any advice for an explorer venturing into low sec for the first time? Right now, when I am in low sec, I bolt the first time I see a neutral in local. But I am finding that I can't stay very long in a system if I do that. Do I need to be more bold? Yes
Low sec has a simple rule ... everybody who can will try to kill you. First, read and learn about: gate/station guns, how to use d-scan and overviews effectively, aggression mechanics and about gate camps. Then fit some cheap ships and start exploring, don't worry about if you get killed often (just unload your cargo regularly) ... and most importantly convo the attacker for tips, be polite, you just lost one match in a big game, not more.
EDIT: wow, 4 answers while I was typing ...
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Mary Killigrew
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:53:34 -
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Syrilian wrote:Elinari Rhodan wrote:Short answer? Yes.
Caution is all well and good; but as you say, you won't really get that far.
General tips from me: 1. Don't sit still too long. Warp away from the gate to a moon or some safe spot , especially if you are worried about the neuts in local 2. Safe spots are good. Make them during warps between gates, or on the warp between gates and planets. They have saved me more times than I'd care to remember 3. D-scan is your friend. 4. Enjoy it! Sure there's a bigger risk, but low sec is fun :) No matter where you go in EVE there will be people out to get you, it's just a little easier for them in low sec. It's a thrill. 5. You *will* lose a ship at some point. I lost mine to a smartbombing gate camp. It happens, you laugh and live and learn. Risks are worth the reward, right? Thank you. I am still a little fuzzy on safe spots. Is it possible to make a bookmark while you are in warp? Do I just bookmark a random object?
That would be telling... And that's bad for business.
Oh, well - you can open People&Places and then click Save location while in warp to create a... Spot. |
Dhill Ehtante
C'hizien en egor
2
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Posted - 2015.02.17 15:18:26 -
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Syrilian wrote:Elinari Rhodan wrote:Short answer? Yes.
SNIP Thank you. I am still a little fuzzy on safe spots. Is it possible to make a bookmark while you are in warp? Do I just bookmark a random object?
No need to bookmark a random object. When you are in warp between two locations, just hit ctrl+b to create the bookmark you want...
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Memphis Baas
167
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Posted - 2015.02.17 15:19:41 -
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To create a bookmark in warp, enter warp, then open your People and Places and click the Create Bookmark button.
If you want precision positioning, open your map, then switch to the solar system map, so you can see where your ship is as it warps between planets. That way you can click the OK to create the bookmark when your ship is at the maximum distance to other celestials.
Note that you can still be probed if you sit uncloaked at your safespot bookmark. |
Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
313
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Posted - 2015.02.17 15:39:37 -
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Dont venture into low sec....move there.
Being a local has distinct advantages over being a tourist. Knowing the lay of the land, as well as getting a feel for the other locals is invaluable intelligence. It makes the difference between making isk and being chased and camped. You can set up shop near a pipe that you typically run, rather than run the gauntlet between high sec and your target area.
By far, your biggest danger comes from the transit between high to low, or low to null sec areas. These are chokepoints that will be heavily trafficked and often camped. Running that twice just to get in and out of your target area is a good way to lose ships and cargo. You are better off settling in low sec and piling up loot to move less frequently. While your haul might be bigger and slower to move that way, you are taking that risk much less often. If you save up a substantial amount of goods, someone may be willing to buy and move it themselves.
As anyone that actually moves to low or null sec knows- once you are in these regions, you can often go for quite some time and never even see another player. Deep low/null will have more untapped rewards than the border areas. Get away from the borders and local often drops to zero.
Keep an eye on politics. FW zones go from ignored to camped and invaded systems following the trend of the war. Knowing what is the 'front line' allows you to cherry pick in places less likely to see large scale fleets about.
Make friends. Having some eyes in other systems is again, invaluable. Especially if they already have a method of moving items out of dangerous space to markets. Then you can offer to scout or light cynos in exchange for getting your stuff moved more safely. Once you set up a home in low/null, you can also do some side hobbies for extra isk, like PI and manufacturing. |
Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1143
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Posted - 2015.02.17 15:56:17 -
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OP, more shameless plugging of my vids. Have a look. |
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
47616
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Posted - 2015.02.17 20:38:31 -
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Hello and welcome to Eve.
Hope you have a long rewarding career here.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Lowsec_Survival_Guide
Good luck and much success to you.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
3719
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Posted - 2015.02.17 22:05:26 -
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A must read for the discerning newbie.
Welcome to lowsec!
Make space glamorous!
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Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
357
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Posted - 2015.02.17 22:33:48 -
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couple of things - first don't just bm spots in between celestials as such bms are fairly obvious to figure out. Instead, create a spot between two celestials then use that spot to create another spot that is out of alignment with warp paths between celestials. As far as lowsec and exploration is concerned - the best advice anyone can give you is to get to know the systems you explore - figure out who is a regular and who is just visiting. Make friends with the regulars if you can. Alternatively, avoid station systems. People live in the station systems and scan out the signatures, just waiting for folk to try exploration in them - since the sites are pre-bm'd and they use cloaky ships, you will have no warning of them coming for you. If you stick to non-station systems you will avoid most of the problems with locals.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
162
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Posted - 2015.02.18 02:48:33 -
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It has not been stated so far but in some ways a cov-ops frigate can be one of the best tools for exploration in low. Train for it and learn to fly them well and it will give you options for moving around and for evading those who would try to kill you.
No they are not required, I did say they can be one of the best, I di not say they are "the" best. |
Praxis Ginimic
Lazaretto
866
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Posted - 2015.02.18 05:30:02 -
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I would suggest skipping low sec and heading right out to null. Use wormholes to avoid bubble camps. There are vast tracks of empty space out there and lots of wormholes connections to exploit. If you have the isk to spare amd have cloaking trained to 4 then spprt for an astero until you can get into a cov ops frigate.
Good luck & welcome to Eve |
Condanus
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.19 11:37:25 -
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Elinari Rhodan wrote:Short answer? Yes.
Caution is all well and good; but as you say, you won't really get that far.
General tips from me: 1. Don't sit still too long. Warp away from the gate to a moon or some safe spot , especially if you are worried about the neuts in local 2. Safe spots are good. Make them during warps between gates, or on the warp between gates and planets. They have saved me more times than I'd care to remember 3. D-scan is your friend. 4. Enjoy it! Sure there's a bigger risk, but low sec is fun :) No matter where you go in EVE there will be people out to get you, it's just a little easier for them in low sec. It's a thrill. 5. You *will* lose a ship at some point. I lost mine to a smartbombing gate camp. It happens, you laugh and live and learn. Risks are worth the reward, right?
In addition, check pilots in local on zkillboard.com. There are explorer kills in the past? Might be a trap. |
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