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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
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Posted - 2015.02.19 16:21:54 -
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Telling a capsuleer not to shoot at new things or people is like telling an infant not to shove things into their noses. |
Foley Aberas Jones
Huogikku Corporation
104
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Posted - 2015.02.19 22:00:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Telling a capsuleer not to shoot at new things or people is like telling an infant not to shove things into their noses.
This is why Dusters are superior...
Hell im trying to communicate with the damn things... |
Trii Seo
711
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Posted - 2015.02.19 22:26:29 -
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To be fair, an intrusion with combat vessels and deployment of structures without a permission being given is a territorial violation, if not an outright declaration of war.
Viva la revolution!
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Aria Jenneth
Perkone Caldari State
218
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Posted - 2015.02.19 22:50:30 -
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Trii Seo wrote:To be fair, an intrusion with combat vessels and deployment of structures without a permission being given is a territorial violation, if not an outright declaration of war. We might not be quite clear on who actually deployed structures in whose territory.
... Of course, if you leave your house for too long, you maybe shouldn't be surprised if you come back and someone's moved in. For all we know, though, the Drifters think ten thousand years is just time enough for a nice a long walk. |
Jukko Riis
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
73
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Posted - 2015.02.20 00:05:30 -
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Tarikla wrote:Mr Askold,
You forget what the Federation value the most : Freedom. The Drifters denies our freedom, by attacking almost on sight, and worse, by pursuing offenders, destroying not only their ships but also their defensless pod. They are actively interdicting access to specifics area of space INSIDE the Federation, and inside all of the Main Empires.
This is a clear violation of our borders, and this is much worse than someone defending himself.
This is the typical comportment of a scout force, not engaging actively others but scouting areas, and eliminating any intruder who'd discover them. Realize that we have no way of following them, or tracking their movments, and for all we know there may be many more cloacked areas throughout New Eden that we don't know of.
They didn't tried to contact us, or any Empire, not even CONCORD. They sended the Circadians Seekers to scan us, discover our strenghts and weakness, and then they arrived, with weapons capable of destroying even some of the most advanced ships we have at our disposal. They ignored all attempt at communication, only responding by sheer firepower.
What is the next logical step ? We must react before it's too late, before they strike and leave a crippling blow to our defenses. As some of you said, many capsuleers are only money-grabbing fellows, and as such the only way to ensure that a united front will be going against the Drifters is to offer a financial retribution for their elimination.
Do not let history repeat itself again.
Are you kidding me? How typically Gallente.
Ever think that maybe you're impinging on their freedom? Every attack of theirs has been reactionary if not retaliatory. People fire on them and get blown up. People get too close to their towers, they get blown up. Destroy one of their drones? Blown up. Do you see a pattern here yet?
If they didn't contact CONCORD, how is it that CONCORD has established a Corporation for them? Some kind of communication must have occured.
You say we must "react before it's too late." Why not act instead? Why not work on developing a dialogue before they have reason to wipe us out? And if they are an older race, how do you know that we're not the ones inading their space?
And don't you dare mention "a clear violation to our borders" where a Caldari can hear you ever again.
I realize how much the Drifters must scare you. But do you really think it's appropriate to start another war you can't win because you're frightened?
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
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Seekoei
Cult of the Lash
1
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Posted - 2015.03.01 00:13:01 -
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Reporting that a Drifter class battleship, engaged me today at an unoccupied planet in high security space. This incident had happened immediately after i had executed ship scans via probing technology close to an unidentified class of wormhole. |
Aria Jenneth
Perkone Caldari State
237
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Posted - 2015.03.01 00:16:25 -
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Seekoei wrote:Reporting that a Drifter class battleship, engaged me today at an unoccupied planet in high security space. This incident had happened immediately after i had executed ship scans via probing technology close to an unidentified class of wormhole. Thaaaaat's interesting.
What class of ship, pilot? |
Seekoei
Cult of the Lash
1
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Posted - 2015.03.01 00:19:05 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Seekoei wrote:Reporting that a Drifter class battleship, engaged me today at an unoccupied planet in high security space. This incident had happened immediately after i had executed ship scans via probing technology close to an unidentified class of wormhole. Thaaaaat's interesting. What class of ship, pilot?
A purifier stealth bomber, I was simply scanning down an unmanned mobile tractor unit a few astronomical units away from the wormhole.
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Aria Jenneth
Perkone Caldari State
237
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Posted - 2015.03.01 00:58:12 -
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Were you cloaked when the Drifter attacked? |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1652
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Posted - 2015.03.01 03:25:18 -
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As far as I know, they don't attack Caldari vessels unless provoked, thus they shouldn't be set as pirates. |
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Aria Jenneth
Perkone Caldari State
239
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Posted - 2015.03.01 04:20:04 -
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Hm. The Purifier is an Amarrian ship design.
If they're following Jovian standings (or something), they might be safer to approach in Caldari or Matari designs.
... Gods, I'm reaching.
It's been over a week. Do we have anything solid on what they do and do not attack? |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1310
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Posted - 2015.03.01 10:36:07 -
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They have attacked Caldari ships just as much as Amarrian ones.
It's clear that it had nothing to do with the ship type and instead resulted from him probing the wormhole. They saw his probes at the wormhole and then followed them back to their source. Which says a lot about their tracking ability. |
Jennifer Starfall
Repracor Industries
86
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Posted - 2015.03.01 14:08:39 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Hm. The Purifier is an Amarrian ship design.
If they're following Jovian standings (or something), they might be safer to approach in Caldari or Matari designs.
... Gods, I'm reaching.
It's been over a week. Do we have anything solid on what they do and do not attack?
Lisa Ouyano's presentation at the Fourth Seyllin Conference may provide some insight. She's put a fair amount of effort into investigating their aggression patterns.
Jennifer Starfall
Media & Communications
Repracor Industries
The Fourth Seyllin Conference
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Iakim Akrelthor
Skipper Logistics
0
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Posted - 2015.03.01 21:48:04 -
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I was shot down by a Drifter Battleship while piloting a Reaper. I was not targeting the vessel, just flying close to it (3 km).
This happened yesterday, at Lirerim, where an Unidentified Structure was found. At the time, there was an Unidentified Wormhole surrounded by two operational Sleeper structures at system Lirerim. Just two jumps from Eram, where Site One of the Arek'Jalaan Project is based.
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