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Agent Unknown
Night Theifs DamnedNation
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Posted - 2015.02.23 20:56:58 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:baltec1 wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Just go for even bigger things. Like carriers. I just cooked up a titan with 3au warp speed, align time that isnt terrible and able to blap subcaps. If only I had the isk to throw at a project this stupid I can only assume it is a leviathan as that doesn't have the "Turrets fitted to this ship will do reduced damage to small targets" bit. I was considering buying a Ragnarok to alpha battleships but they nerfed titan guns
If a BS is sitting still you can nearly volley them off the field with a sieged dread. On SiSi my navy domi died in 4 shots from a Naglfar (I forgot the all important prop mod...) |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
15151
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Posted - 2015.02.24 03:16:30 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:I hear the unironic raven is a thing.
Raven is so much fun, everything dives into scram range to kill it.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
974
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Posted - 2015.02.24 03:23:21 -
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I have been in a Nightmare fleet recently.
Trouble is speed, firstly. They are so slow you mostly used them for defense or supporting a capital fight. Align and warp speeds. Then a T3 has the same eHP, is faster and has a lower signature radius.
So, other than POS bashing .... what use are they?
CSM Ten movement for change.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
15151
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Posted - 2015.02.24 03:33:37 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:I have been in a Nightmare fleet recently.
Trouble is speed, firstly. They are so slow you mostly used them for defense or supporting a capital fight. Align and warp speeds. Then a T3 has the same eHP, is faster and has a lower signature radius.
So, other than POS bashing .... what use are they?
tank, firepower, bumping caps, heavy cyno, fleet flagship, emergency logi, ammo bin, fleet scout, anchor ship, sniper, firewall, prober, moral booster, heavy ECM, absorber of bombs.
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Liam Inkuras
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
1448
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Posted - 2015.02.24 04:39:09 -
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Phig Neutron wrote:While we're complaining, how about the cost of them! An Armageddon used to be 50 million, and now it's nearly 200 mil. I understand the idea of "tiericide" was to boost all those frigates that everyone never flew again after the tutorials, and all the cruisers that weren't the one or two best of each race. It seems that they went the opposite way with battleships -- nerf them all and triple the price of the cheaper ones.
Also: HACs were "ruining EVE" long before T3s. When they nerf T3s the game will still be mostly HACs-Online. I would still throw caution to the wind and take out battleships against HACs (spider tanking used to work well) but the cost is unbelievable now. Machariels also used to cost 1bill, yet today they cost 500mill. I fail to see your point
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Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
810
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Posted - 2015.02.24 05:46:05 -
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Faction battleships work just fine in the current meta since they've got highslots for firewall smartbombs.
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Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
485
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Posted - 2015.02.24 06:35:31 -
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Liam Inkuras wrote:Phig Neutron wrote:While we're complaining, how about the cost of them! An Armageddon used to be 50 million, and now it's nearly 200 mil. I understand the idea of "tiericide" was to boost all those frigates that everyone never flew again after the tutorials, and all the cruisers that weren't the one or two best of each race. It seems that they went the opposite way with battleships -- nerf them all and triple the price of the cheaper ones.
Also: HACs were "ruining EVE" long before T3s. When they nerf T3s the game will still be mostly HACs-Online. I would still throw caution to the wind and take out battleships against HACs (spider tanking used to work well) but the cost is unbelievable now. Machariels also used to cost 1bill, yet today they cost 500mill. I fail to see your point
I wonder why that is...
A lot of faction stuff has been dropping in price? time to invest now before the big sov changes?
Faction warfare pilot and solo/small gang PVP advocate
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6546
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Posted - 2015.02.24 06:42:55 -
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Liam Inkuras wrote:Phig Neutron wrote:While we're complaining, how about the cost of them! An Armageddon used to be 50 million, and now it's nearly 200 mil. I understand the idea of "tiericide" was to boost all those frigates that everyone never flew again after the tutorials, and all the cruisers that weren't the one or two best of each race. It seems that they went the opposite way with battleships -- nerf them all and triple the price of the cheaper ones.
Also: HACs were "ruining EVE" long before T3s. When they nerf T3s the game will still be mostly HACs-Online. I would still throw caution to the wind and take out battleships against HACs (spider tanking used to work well) but the cost is unbelievable now. Machariels also used to cost 1bill, yet today they cost 500mill. I fail to see your point Man, the alliance is getting of cheap with the reimbursible machariels now, then
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
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Bo Bojangles
Interstellar Renegades Advent of Fate
33
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Posted - 2015.02.24 14:14:56 -
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Cruiser hulls seem by far the favorite in Eve nullsec pvp, and that's just fine, but there's no reason to leave battleships where they are. I love my BS's and when they knocked down their warp speed to 2au/s, it killed the game for me and I went afk for a year and stopped subscribing altogether for another. It had been my favorite hull, but I'd never flown anything that slow in Eve before.
See I'm not a dependable roamer anymore. Just had too many 50+ jump roams with too few targets to make it worth it. With BS's though, the roam comes to you. Sure you're at a disadvantage because of the state of BS's, but at least you don't have to jump gates all night.
I took my Vargur out into a dangerous pipe yesterday to do a plex. I didn't care. Bored, I halfway wanted the baddies to find me, or at least get to say that I'd take a shiney ship anywhere to do anything, despite my somewhat humble finances. The tank was good and it lasted up until their Curse arrived and then some, my own slapdash rescue party ineffective.
My max skilled Warrior II's flailed away at the lone Ares tackle, scoring hits only 17% of the time. The Ares never got under 80% shields, my neut unable to quite reach him. That MWD sig radius combined with the WD bonus makes them immune to any BS defenses while orbiting beyond neut range. He could have kept me there all night. I think that if a BS's defenses can't kill an orbiting frigate, they should eventually be able to drive it away.
BS's should be more of a formidable opponent, and not simply a cow set out to slaughter.
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M1k3y Koontz
Aether Ventures Surely You're Joking
651
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Posted - 2015.02.24 15:07:37 -
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Kestral Anneto wrote:Aralyn Cormallen wrote:I feel your pain At the moment, the big problem is Bombers. Those tubby, slow-moving battleships make wonderful targets to swarming wings of bombers, whereas the faster, smaller-sigged (and in the case of T3's equally-tough) cruisers are less vulnerable. People still use Battleships (as do we from time to time), but til the threat of bombs recedes a little, they are going to rarely be a mainstay maybe battleships should have a point defense system, that would give the ship a chance of shooting the bomb before it detonates.
New roll for defender missiles.
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2136
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Posted - 2015.02.24 18:54:38 -
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baltec1 wrote:BS will see use again when T3s and the ishtar finally get their nerfes.
I am waiting for that day.
I will build a little shrine. Is CCP selling model Ishtars? I could use some to burn as an offering. |
Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
485
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:50:54 -
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Well the sp grind merry go round had to have something to justify itself and encouraging the entirety of nullsec to train sentries would have been much harder without a minimum of 25d + 20d + hac training level per person +ù 60k players or so. That's a lot of revenue and surely anyone with a brain would do the same thing if it was their own business.
And prior to that was carrier blobs which I am tangentially skilling up now which means approximately a whole YEAR of skilling to use effectively particularly once you consider logi5 being 30d alone.
So no we haven't seen the end of ishtars online and we won't until the rate of people skilling up drones declines due to already being maxed out.
Faction warfare pilot and solo/small gang PVP advocate
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Kestral Anneto
Umbra-Domini SpaceMonkey's Alliance
56
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Posted - 2015.02.28 22:31:27 -
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So, given that CCP officially thinks that Battleships are fine the way they are, that they dont need a rework or anything. They are fine with the current variation of ships used in PvP (even though in the very same blog they announced nerfs because of tengu and ishtar spam, but were not allowed to notice that)
So given this, how would we go about changing there mind? As I'm hoping that CCP will listen to reason on this. |
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
967
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Posted - 2015.02.28 22:38:08 -
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Kestral Anneto wrote:So, given that CCP officially thinks that Battleships are fine the way they are, that they dont need a rework or anything. They are fine with the current variation of ships used in PvP (even though in the very same blog they announced nerfs because of tengu and ishtar spam, but were not allowed to notice that)
So given this, how would we go about changing there mind? As I'm hoping that CCP will listen to reason on this.
Fly more battleships. Lose them. Get completely owned in them. That will show CCP how much they need buffs.
Okay, that was sarcasm.
You know what will really really show CCP how much they need to buff BS? Just don't ever fly battleships. Never ever. Ever. At all. Don't even train for them.
That way, when you never fly them and don't even have the skills to fly them, everyone will always listen to you about how much they need buffs.
Dammit. Sarcasm strikes again. I gotta stop that.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Shut up, Anslo. --everyone
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Kestral Anneto
Umbra-Domini SpaceMonkey's Alliance
56
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Posted - 2015.02.28 22:41:47 -
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Glathull wrote:
Fly more battleships. Lose them. Get completely owned in them. That will show CCP how much they need buffs.
Okay, that was sarcasm.
You know what will really really show CCP how much they need to buff BS? Just don't ever fly battleships. Never ever. Ever. At all. Don't even train for them.
That way, when you never fly them and don't even have the skills to fly them, everyone will always listen to you about how much they need buffs.
Dammit. Sarcasm strikes again. I gotta stop that.
I would fly battleships, i WANT to fly battleships, but between the ridiculas warp time (I can litrally go for a bio break while im warping across the bigger systems) and bomber spam, i may as well sit at Jita undock in a pimped golem. Asking for the biggest sub-cap ship, which is supposed to be the most powerful ship, to actually BE the most powerful ship, isn't asking for to much. |
Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
548
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Posted - 2015.02.28 22:50:22 -
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Okay. Okay. If everybody's flying these T3s...who's flying the bombers again? I can't tell you the last time I saw a BS killmail with a pack of hounds doing the damage. The last Hound I saw on a killmail was the victim.
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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Glathull
Warlock Assassins
967
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Posted - 2015.02.28 22:53:23 -
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Kestral Anneto wrote:Glathull wrote:
Fly more battleships. Lose them. Get completely owned in them. That will show CCP how much they need buffs.
Okay, that was sarcasm.
You know what will really really show CCP how much they need to buff BS? Just don't ever fly battleships. Never ever. Ever. At all. Don't even train for them.
That way, when you never fly them and don't even have the skills to fly them, everyone will always listen to you about how much they need buffs.
Dammit. Sarcasm strikes again. I gotta stop that.
I would fly battleships, i WANT to fly battleships, but between the ridiculas warp time (I can litrally go for a bio break while im warping across the bigger systems) and bomber spam, i may as well sit at Jita undock in a pimped golem. Asking for the biggest sub-cap ship, which is supposed to be the most powerful ship, to actually BE the most powerful ship, isn't asking for to much.
So what you are saying is that you don't fly Battleships. Great. We've established that.
Why should anyone listen to you complain about Battleships when you don't even fly the damn things?
Jesus. My sarcasm was right the first time around.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Shut up, Anslo. --everyone
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Vyl Vit
1067
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Posted - 2015.02.28 22:54:44 -
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Surely you know MMOs are filled with 1337s who "know" everything, then proceed to list truisms they heard from somebody who heard from somebody....the idea being, "I'm the fountain of information. Ain't I meta?" All I see here are rumors, truisms and untested theory being asserted as fact.
If you're in a corp that, or have "buds" that do "small-ship roams," then guess what. The BS isn't a "small ship." T3 cruisers pass for small ships, but they're really the BS of the small-ship pvp. If you want to use a BS, then don't run with people who do small ship roams. Problem solved. I'm still chuckling at the idea of a Vindicator falling to a Tengu. I guess it can happen, but there must be a bit of stupidity involved.
Anyone with any sense has already left town.
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Kestral Anneto
Umbra-Domini SpaceMonkey's Alliance
56
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Posted - 2015.02.28 23:11:33 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:Surely you know MMOs are filled with 1337s who "know" everything, then proceed to list truisms they heard from somebody who heard from somebody....the idea being, "I'm the fountain of information. Ain't I meta?" All I see here are rumors, truisms and untested theory being asserted as fact.
If you're in a corp that, or have "buds" that do "small-ship roams," then guess what. The BS isn't a "small ship." T3 cruisers pass for small ships, but they're really the BS of the small-ship pvp. If you want to use a BS, then don't run with people who do small ship roams. Problem solved. I'm still chuckling at the idea of a Vindicator falling to a Tengu. I guess it can happen, but there must be a bit of stupidity involved.
well every fleet i've been on that SHOULD be using battleships (as in 100+ people) is using ishtars and tengu's. I very much doubt the FC would be very pleased if i undocked in a raven or an apoc. and to Glathull, I do fly BS's, but only in PvE, not PvP where i WANT to, as do a lot of people I've spoken to , but a gang of about 5 or 6 BS's will get rofl-stomped by a blob. |
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
970
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Posted - 2015.02.28 23:16:32 -
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Kestral Anneto wrote:Glathull wrote:
Fly more battleships. Lose them. Get completely owned in them. That will show CCP how much they need buffs.
Okay, that was sarcasm.
You know what will really really show CCP how much they need to buff BS? Just don't ever fly battleships. Never ever. Ever. At all. Don't even train for them.
That way, when you never fly them and don't even have the skills to fly them, everyone will always listen to you about how much they need buffs.
Dammit. Sarcasm strikes again. I gotta stop that.
Some junky stuff.
I just gave your character 500 million ISK. Go buy a battleship or two and fit them right. Go get them blown up. Then come back here and tell us all how battleships suck ass.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Shut up, Anslo. --everyone
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Winters Chill
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
173
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Posted - 2015.02.28 23:56:02 -
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In this meta, battleships should not fit damage modules.
If you add three damage upgrade modules to battleship (like nearly everyone does, ever!) and you know for a fact the typical roamer is a faction cruiser thats very fast. How does doing more damage actually help? If you can't hit him?
Compared to cruisers and frigates battleships put out a shed tonne of vanilla DPS, they don't need more damage, they need to be able to hit.
So if I was going to fit 'any races" battleship. I'd fit with the guns with the best tracking and I'd stick tracking enhancers, tracking computers and target painters (nasty if they are using MWD) on there. Also tracking implants can't hurt either (oh and the tracking booster, whatever its called).
Thats what I'd do.
Also battleship with tracking or falloff bonuses are probably were its at right now. |
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
970
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Posted - 2015.03.01 00:08:09 -
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Winters Chill wrote:In this meta, battleships should not fit damage modules.
If you add three damage upgrade modules to battleship (like nearly everyone does, ever!) and you know for a fact the typical roamer is a faction cruiser thats very fast. How does doing more damage actually help? If you can't hit him?
Compared to cruisers and frigates battleships put out a shed tonne of vanilla DPS, they don't need more damage, they need to be able to hit.
So if I was going to fit 'any races" battleship. I'd fit with the guns with the best tracking and I'd stick tracking enhancers, tracking computers and target painters (nasty if they are using MWD) on there. Also tracking implants can't hurt either (oh and the tracking booster, whatever its called).
Thats what I'd do.
Also battleship with tracking or falloff bonuses are probably were its at right now.
That actually seems pretty reasonable. Except where it doesn't. Which is everywhere.
What you are suggesting is that you do everything you possibly can to gimp a battleship into being an oversized, obese cruiser.
This is completely f***tarded. If you need a cruiser, fly a cruiser. Don't fly a battleship sh!tfit to hell to try and make it an expensive, bad cruiser. Just don't ever do that.
I'm glad you posted though, because now I have some idea of what these clowns are complaining about.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Shut up, Anslo. --everyone
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Kiryen O'Bannon
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
212
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Posted - 2015.03.01 04:35:50 -
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Glathull wrote:Winters Chill wrote:In this meta, battleships should not fit damage modules.
If you add three damage upgrade modules to battleship (like nearly everyone does, ever!) and you know for a fact the typical roamer is a faction cruiser thats very fast. How does doing more damage actually help? If you can't hit him?
Compared to cruisers and frigates battleships put out a shed tonne of vanilla DPS, they don't need more damage, they need to be able to hit.
So if I was going to fit 'any races" battleship. I'd fit with the guns with the best tracking and I'd stick tracking enhancers, tracking computers and target painters (nasty if they are using MWD) on there. Also tracking implants can't hurt either (oh and the tracking booster, whatever its called).
Thats what I'd do.
Also battleship with tracking or falloff bonuses are probably were its at right now. That actually seems pretty reasonable. Except where it doesn't. Which is everywhere. What you are suggesting is that you do everything you possibly can to gimp a battleship into being an oversized, obese cruiser. This is completely f***tarded. If you need a cruiser, fly a cruiser. Don't fly a battleship sh!tfit to hell to try and make it an expensive, bad cruiser. Just don't ever do that. I'm glad you posted though, because now I have some idea of what these clowns are complaining about.
You migh t be more convincing if you had cited a reason why his suggestion is bad. Using application modules rather than more damage modules makes perfect sense. This does not somehow turn it into an oversize cruiser, it means you can apply damage to cruisers - and for that matter, you'll likely have better application if you mean another battleship.
It seems you're just offended by the suggestion for no apparent reason whatsoever. |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
301
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Posted - 2015.03.01 05:06:18 -
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Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:Glathull wrote:Winters Chill wrote:In this meta, battleships should not fit damage modules.
If you add three damage upgrade modules to battleship (like nearly everyone does, ever!) and you know for a fact the typical roamer is a faction cruiser thats very fast. How does doing more damage actually help? If you can't hit him?
Compared to cruisers and frigates battleships put out a shed tonne of vanilla DPS, they don't need more damage, they need to be able to hit.
So if I was going to fit 'any races" battleship. I'd fit with the guns with the best tracking and I'd stick tracking enhancers, tracking computers and target painters (nasty if they are using MWD) on there. Also tracking implants can't hurt either (oh and the tracking booster, whatever its called).
Thats what I'd do.
Also battleship with tracking or falloff bonuses are probably were its at right now. That actually seems pretty reasonable. Except where it doesn't. Which is everywhere. What you are suggesting is that you do everything you possibly can to gimp a battleship into being an oversized, obese cruiser. This is completely f***tarded. If you need a cruiser, fly a cruiser. Don't fly a battleship sh!tfit to hell to try and make it an expensive, bad cruiser. Just don't ever do that. I'm glad you posted though, because now I have some idea of what these clowns are complaining about. You migh t be more convincing if you had cited a reason why his suggestion is bad. Using application modules rather than more damage modules makes perfect sense. This does not somehow turn it into an oversize cruiser, it means you can apply damage to cruisers - and for that matter, you'll likely have better application if you mean another battleship. It seems you're just offended by the suggestion for no apparent reason whatsoever.
And you might suprise somebody which is always fun. You can't miss anyone hard enough to hurt them. |
Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2174
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Posted - 2015.03.01 05:29:36 -
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Kestral Anneto wrote:Glathull wrote:
Fly more battleships. Lose them. Get completely owned in them. That will show CCP how much they need buffs.
Okay, that was sarcasm.
You know what will really really show CCP how much they need to buff BS? Just don't ever fly battleships. Never ever. Ever. At all. Don't even train for them.
That way, when you never fly them and don't even have the skills to fly them, everyone will always listen to you about how much they need buffs.
Dammit. Sarcasm strikes again. I gotta stop that.
I would fly battleships, i WANT to fly battleships, but between the ridiculas warp time (I can litrally go for a bio break while im warping across the bigger systems) and bomber spam, i may as well sit at Jita undock in a pimped golem. Asking for the biggest sub-cap ship, which is supposed to be the most powerful ship, to actually BE the most powerful ship, isn't asking for to much.
The stupid thing is, they are the most powerful ship.. Powerful in tersm of damage output.. that's what CCP said. When they are out, they hurt... if they are used to that effect. The problem or at least the issue that the 'broad masses' have with battleships is that you can't move them anywhere, not on their own and most of the time not with anything else cause anything else just runs away from them or gets bored waiting for them.
I guess you could fly BS gangs with triage carriers though, until you run into a wall of Ishtar anyways. |
Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
497
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Posted - 2015.03.01 10:35:15 -
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Regarding the battleship damage chart presented here http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66946/1/STEVE_7.png as a link directly from here http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/balance-changes-coming-in-scylla
I notice that there are several different colours and that care is taken to directly avoid actually putting names on which ships those colours belong to. No efforts made to specifically cite examples of common usage.
I'm led to suspect that pirate faction battleships make up either the lions share or come in close second to more accessible ships like navy apocs and navy megathrons.
Just for *once* I'd really like to see a bulletpoint format list of things. Let me even provide an example:
Total percentage of pvp damage done by battleships = 100% Navy apoc 14% Navy thron 13.8% Machariel 13% Navy phoon 11% - - - Rokh 1% Navy tempest 1%
Something like this would be much appreciated for the public because WE can see where the game is lacking by virture of raw performance alone. People *will always use the best tool available* and will even instruct you dutifully to train for ******* capitals and sentries as soon as you join their alliance because that's what they want and expect from you as a player. Or whatever. Obviously time and money are not considered valid obstacles to fleet engagements above a certain size but you can bet your left testicle noone is going to deliberately bring an underpowered ship for goodfeels in flying an underdog fleet comp and then wiping.
Faction warfare pilot and solo/small gang PVP advocate
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Kestral Anneto
Umbra-Domini SpaceMonkey's Alliance
56
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Posted - 2015.03.01 11:14:26 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:Regarding the battleship damage chart presented here http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66946/1/STEVE_7.png as a link directly from here http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/balance-changes-coming-in-scylla I notice that there are several different colours and that care is taken to directly avoid actually putting names on which ships those colours belong to. No efforts made to specifically cite examples of common usage. I'm led to suspect that pirate faction battleships make up either the lions share or come in close second to more accessible ships like navy apocs and navy megathrons. Just for *once* I'd really like to see a bulletpoint format list of things. Let me even provide an example: Total percentage of pvp damage done by battleships = 100% Navy apoc 14% Navy thron 13.8% Machariel 13% Navy phoon 11% - - - Rokh 1% Navy tempest 1% Something like this would be much appreciated for the public because WE can see where the game is lacking by virture of raw performance alone. People *will always use the best tool available* and will even instruct you dutifully to train for ******* capitals and sentries as soon as you join their alliance because that's what they want and expect from you as a player. Or whatever. Obviously time and money are not considered valid obstacles to fleet engagements above a certain size but you can bet your left testicle noone is going to deliberately bring an underpowered ship for goodfeels in flying an underdog fleet comp and then wiping.
i wonder how much of the damage done by BS's is just camping gates, rather than fleet engagements?
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Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
497
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Posted - 2015.03.01 11:20:08 -
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Good luck getting that information. They'll cite being scared of revealing powerful combos and swinging everything in that direction (or similar). And then they turn the other cheek and tell you that they balance the game based on trends and that when a trend becomes too strong they adjust it to push it back down.
And frankly their information gathering process probably isn't that specific. I play on SISI for impressions of how the game functions purely from a combat perspective. TQ is another story, where you have a large 'civilian' population financially supporting a much smaller 'fighting' population, like a real country. The stronger your economy the more isk bloat your fit can afford.
Faction warfare pilot and solo/small gang PVP advocate
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Incestuous Criticism
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.03.01 13:15:12 -
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Orlacc wrote:You young punks! In my day we used Battleships to mine! (true story) And it was uphill both ways!
Yeah the ROKH was a great mining ship... |
Nina Lowel
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2015.03.02 06:49:08 -
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Sisohiv wrote:If you really want battleship fights, you need to find some low sec worth fighting over. Bombers can't pee in your cornflakes there, hot drops are very unlikely and a fortified battleship fleet could stand up to an Ishtar fleet with a proper doctrine.
Name that low sec? Nope, I go t nothing.
Because who cares about low sec? Don't want to fight? Dock up, nothing of harm can be done. Dock up in 0.0? SBU's and sov loss. |
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