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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:22:25 -
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in short, maybe occasioanlly swap out the incursion mothership with a suped up one piloted by Sansha (who is a character account) supported by new sansha carriers, and wipe an incursion fleet or two
oh adn dont announce in any blogs that itll happen either, just introduce the new carriers and start nuking incursion fleets, theyll catch on eventually, and itll empty the wallets of the fatter incursion runners out there for once
sorry for spelling, on mobile with no spellcheck and selecting to retype is a pain in the tookus. |
Bel Tika
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
313
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:24:32 -
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so err you want pvp? im confused, dont worry tiz easy to do to me |
Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
303
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:54:40 -
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I did think about something similar recently. I've heard Sansha Kuvakei himself posted on the Intergalactic Summit forums once; I'd love to see NPC's being more interactive, for example by posting. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6296
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Posted - 2015.02.22 22:10:59 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:in short, maybe occasioanlly swap out the incursion mothership with a suped up one piloted by Sansha (who is a character account) supported by new sansha carriers, and wipe an incursion fleet or two
oh adn dont announce in any blogs that itll happen either, just introduce the new carriers and start nuking incursion fleets, theyll catch on eventually, and itll empty the wallets of the fatter incursion runners out there for once
sorry for spelling, on mobile with no spellcheck and selecting to retype is a pain in the tookus.
That would be a live event.
And live events are dead.
Now go back to min-maxxing your ISK ans/or stats or camp a gate while playing something else, like you are supposed to.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1806
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Posted - 2015.02.22 22:15:57 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:in short, maybe occasioanlly swap out the incursion mothership with a suped up one piloted by Sansha (who is a character account) supported by new sansha carriers, and wipe an incursion fleet or two
oh adn dont announce in any blogs that itll happen either, just introduce the new carriers and start nuking incursion fleets, theyll catch on eventually, and itll empty the wallets of the fatter incursion runners out there for once
sorry for spelling, on mobile with no spellcheck and selecting to retype is a pain in the tookus. That would be a live event. And live events are dead. Now go back to min-maxxing your ISK ans/or stats or camp a gate while playing something else, like you are supposed to. now see, your just attacking me here without any basis
1) i have never min/max'd isk/hour, the few times im broke and actually have to mission i fly brick tanked amrauders for maximum anti-gankage
2) i have never camped a gate
and anyways, why should live events be dead? why shouldnt CCP do more? IMO the only problem with past live events was that people already knew how/when/;where they would happen weeks ahead of time, so it ended up beign goonswarm versus PL ina race to htodrop the event, it would be better to sneak the event in and laugh at the bears who die because of it |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1925
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Posted - 2015.02.22 22:35:20 -
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Uh, you just asked for CCP to grief people because you can't be bothered to kill them yourself. That's plenty of reason to point and laugh at you. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30326
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Posted - 2015.02.22 22:36:06 -
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piloting a lore character in space would mean devs would have to play the game.
Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
33207
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Posted - 2015.02.22 22:37:54 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:...and itll empty the wallets of the fatter incursion runners out there for once. I like your idea for the unpredictability, requirement to adjust and for the fun (as a non-incursion runner though), but I don't really see the point of the negativity towards other players.
Why does it matter that someone else has more ISK, or how they acquire it?
Yes for the interest your idea would bring. No for the grr other players. That part doesn't make much sense.
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
6069
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Posted - 2015.02.22 22:42:58 -
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Lore-character = unique killmail
Think about it.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Serene Repose
2291
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Posted - 2015.02.22 22:56:39 -
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I've always thought the actual play was a bit divorced from the back story. The back story rolls along contemporaneously, but you see no sign of it anywhere other than reading it. Even that is a bit more remote than it once was. It's a shame, too, since it's an interesting backstory, and the events are supposed to be key to "our" motivations - aside from bloodlust and greed for ISK.
In fact, without the backstory, that's all we have is bloodlust and greed for ISK. Capsuleers were supposed to be driven by some ideal or other, I thought. Having a galaxy full of mercenaries sort of removes any incentive. I think more than a few folks over-estimate the lasting power of simply killing to be killing...for a living. If that were really possible, we'd still be running around the forest clubbing each other in the head. Who needs spaceships for that?
At the same time, the way the game is layed-out it's difficult to see an opening for the backstory. I always sort of cringe at missions as they have little to do with it as well. There's talk about missions being stagnant, and in need of some sort of revision. Quite possibly looping this story more significantly, and more obviously, into the missions would do a lot for the immersion part. I really don't like missioning as droningly repetitive tasks - either poking the enemy for some imagined territorial incursion, or spanking faction pirates.
It gets hard to pretend you're serving a purpose after a few hundred times.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
40
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Posted - 2015.02.22 23:38:39 -
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Rain6637 wrote:piloting a lore character in space would mean devs would have to play the game.
Which they used too a bunch of years ago. It would boost the lore of the game by having CCP dev's play 'famous' NPC's which have increased stats/etc.
It was a lot of fun. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1925
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Posted - 2015.02.22 23:39:36 -
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Do realise Live Events are in the Devs free time. They are putting in extra hours for those. Also a lot of the Devs do have EVE characters. |
Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
523
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Posted - 2015.02.22 23:42:17 -
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Devs play. They just don't tell who they are. Mum's the word.
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
614
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Posted - 2015.02.23 02:07:41 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:Devs play. They just don't tell who they are. Mum's the word.
CCP Falcon is SortDragon. It's true!
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6300
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Posted - 2015.02.23 06:17:49 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:in short, maybe occasioanlly swap out the incursion mothership with a suped up one piloted by Sansha (who is a character account) supported by new sansha carriers, and wipe an incursion fleet or two
oh adn dont announce in any blogs that itll happen either, just introduce the new carriers and start nuking incursion fleets, theyll catch on eventually, and itll empty the wallets of the fatter incursion runners out there for once
sorry for spelling, on mobile with no spellcheck and selecting to retype is a pain in the tookus. That would be a live event. And live events are dead. Now go back to min-maxxing your ISK ans/or stats or camp a gate while playing something else, like you are supposed to. now see, your just attacking me here without any basis 1) i have never min/max'd isk/hour, the few times im broke and actually have to mission i fly brick tanked amrauders for maximum anti-gankage 2) i have never camped a gate and anyways, why should live events be dead? why shouldnt CCP do more? IMO the only problem with past live events was that people already knew how/when/;where they would happen weeks ahead of time, so it ended up beign goonswarm versus PL ina race to htodrop the event, it would be better to sneak the event in and laugh at the bears who die because of it
You are not being attacked.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Josef Djugashvilis
2895
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:07:33 -
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Eve would be greatly improved by completely removing all the lore nonsense.
Real people can and should provide all the dramatic stories and history Eve needs.
But I appreciate that this will not happen as some folk enjoy the role playing or whatever it is called, and CCP choses to indulge them.
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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:17:28 -
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As an Incursion Runner, I don't hate the idea. Obviously don't fleets in just to be DD'd as they land on grid with no idea, but put up a new site and see who takes the bate.
Incursion sites are stale, most who run them would agree, they are exciting, for the first week, after that you can sleep though them.. a little random spice isn't a bad idea.
And why limit it to Incursions? Sansha use WH's, plop an Incursion into some random Hole. Have the Serpentis deploy their titan and a fleet and go attack some Sov that borders their space, or pop some POS's in their space. Have a Concord fleet just fly around lowsec for a bit shooting anyone under -5. Have a Bloodraider fleet attack a Sansha fleet (sine they don't like eachohter).. or Guristas fleet attack the Mordu's stations. Have the Amarr Queen ***** fly around Space shooting anyone who doesn't fly Amarr :p
I'd love to see not just more random live events, but more NPC interaction with other NPC's, or abnormal interaction with Players. It would be fun. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Brawlers Inc.
1462
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Posted - 2015.02.23 12:05:48 -
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Serene Repose wrote:I've always thought the actual play was a bit divorced from the back story. The back story rolls along contemporaneously, but you see no sign of it anywhere other than reading it. Even that is a bit more remote than it once was. It's a shame, too, since it's an interesting backstory, and the events are supposed to be key to "our" motivations - aside from bloodlust and greed for ISK.
In fact, without the backstory, that's all we have is bloodlust and greed for ISK. Capsuleers were supposed to be driven by some ideal or other, I thought. Having a galaxy full of mercenaries sort of removes any incentive. I think more than a few folks over-estimate the lasting power of simply killing to be killing...for a living. If that were really possible, we'd still be running around the forest clubbing each other in the head. Who needs spaceships for that?
At the same time, the way the game is layed-out it's difficult to see an opening for the backstory. I always sort of cringe at missions as they have little to do with it as well. There's talk about missions being stagnant, and in need of some sort of revision. Quite possibly looping this story more significantly, and more obviously, into the missions would do a lot for the immersion part. I really don't like missioning as droningly repetitive tasks - either poking the enemy for some imagined territorial incursion, or spanking faction pirates.
It gets hard to pretend you're serving a purpose after a few hundred times. I take it you haven't seen Caroline's Star?
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Chocolate Mooses
The Conference Elite CODE.
16
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Posted - 2015.02.23 12:26:36 -
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Sniper Smith wrote:As an Incursion Runner, I don't hate the idea. Obviously don't fleets in just to be DD'd as they land on grid with no idea, but put up a new site and see who takes the bate.
Incursion sites are stale, most who run them would agree, they are exciting, for the first week, after that you can sleep though them.. a little random spice isn't a bad idea.
And why limit it to Incursions? Sansha use WH's, plop an Incursion into some random Hole. Have the Serpentis deploy their titan and a fleet and go attack some Sov that borders their space, or pop some POS's in their space. Have a Concord fleet just fly around lowsec for a bit shooting anyone under -5. Have a Bloodraider fleet attack a Sansha fleet (sine they don't like eachohter).. or Guristas fleet attack the Mordu's stations. Have the Amarr Queen ***** fly around Space shooting anyone who doesn't fly Amarr :p
I'd love to see not just more random live events, but more NPC interaction with other NPC's, or abnormal interaction with Players. It would be fun.
You don't need "random spice". It's already in the game. Live events are happening every single second of every single day. Your fellow players are doing it. Trying to have CCP add real human content to your boring static PVE stuff is not needed, and a complete waste of dev resources. Call it a "incursion", "mission", "mining", whatever you want... it's all the same thing. It's static. Why are you just a "incursion runner"? That's just a means to a end. Your suggestions seem to imply you are getting bored with shooting red boxes that are the exact same thing every single time, right?
Targeting a rock and extracting resources, running a mission and extracting resources, warping to a incursion and extracting resources is fine and dandy, but it's not the real spice of eve.
Take some of that ISK you get from this PVE content, and start shooting people. Go on a roam. Make friends and enemies. Conquer a market. War-dec something. AWOX something. Scam someone. Join a corp. Join an alliance. Take sov. Lose sov. Laugh about it. Pipebomb something. The list is endless. Consider that you might want to get out of highsec. Get into factional warfare. FIt 100 frigates and try to lose them all in 30 days. Go to Thera and PVP the first thing you see. Invade the grrr goons. Join PL. Join the Goonswarm. Join Brave. Join something. Do something. The list is endless. This is dynamic, and us players provide all of this content and more.
PVE is for ISK generation and content to keep the new bees busy while they figure out what the heck this game is even about and learn the basics. Stop expecting CCP to somehow make PVE content into dynamic player driven awesomesauce, and get out there and make it happen! |
Kithrus
Tzedakah Aegis Militia
336
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Posted - 2015.02.23 12:29:23 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Eve would be greatly improved by completely removing all the lore nonsense.
Real people can and should provide all the dramatic stories and history Eve needs.
But I appreciate that this will not happen as some folk enjoy the role playing or whatever it is called, and CCP choses to indulge them.
You know I find this post offensive because your implying (purposely or otherwise) that we some how made the plot to date and are trying to get ccp to play our way.
There were live events at the start, there were escorts, fleet battles moments of history we shaped when given the chance.
So kindly don't make it sound like a bunch of nerds read the books and wanted more. It's expectations ccp set. |
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CCP Falcon
10739
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Posted - 2015.02.23 12:44:46 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Pok Nibin wrote:Devs play. They just don't tell who they are. Mum's the word. CCP Falcon is SortDragon. It's true!
This is incorrect.
He's far more of a butte than I am.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11895
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Posted - 2015.02.23 12:45:55 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:Pok Nibin wrote:Devs play. They just don't tell who they are. Mum's the word. CCP Falcon is SortDragon. It's true! This is incorrect. He's far more of a butte than I am.
You are both rocky outcroppings, though?
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5867
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Posted - 2015.02.23 12:49:24 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:Pok Nibin wrote:Devs play. They just don't tell who they are. Mum's the word. CCP Falcon is SortDragon. It's true! This is incorrect. He's far more of a butte than I am. You are both rocky outcroppings, though?
The larger of the two is probably more of a mesa than a butte.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
276
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:18:15 -
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Chocolate Mooses wrote:... I do PvP, on this account sometimes, on alts more. That doesn't mean that I don't like the PvE content, and the lore, and want more.
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Marsha Mallow
1961
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:27:39 -
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To be fair there are plenty of player run live events and NPSI fleets now. Do CCP really need to do it when players can organise these? Although if Devs were to randomly take control of an Incursion and start smacking in local and randomly DD'ing people with their Polaris Frigs it would be hilarious.
DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!
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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
276
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Posted - 2015.02.23 20:54:58 -
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Eve has a HUGE Lore and NPC base where I see no reason we can't have both. Some like the Story elements.. Some are just here for player content.. no reason you can't have both. No one is forcing your PvP fleet to show up to some live events or anything. Just as no one is forcing Carebears to show up at battles like Asakai or anything. It would be great to have all the options out there.
Personally speaking, one of my fav times in Eve was the Battle over Caldari Prime. Most of the Griefers were locked up due to system cap, and everyone who was there to have fun in the event was for the most part able too. It was a blast.. now the next big one, for Ghost Sites, was just a clusterfuck. But still no reason not to keep having them and keep trying.. |
Agent Unknown
Night Theifs DamnedNation
31
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Posted - 2015.02.23 20:58:43 -
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The should randomly drop Drifter Battleships into the incursions...the look on people's faces when their blinged out faction BS gets one-shot would be pretty funny. |
Clacker McDucky
5
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Posted - 2015.02.23 21:22:02 -
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Make it a little more competitive...sort of Evolve for Eve. Player-bosses versus everyone else in random, non-published live events. |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
276
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Posted - 2015.02.23 23:07:45 -
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Agent Unknown wrote:The should randomly drop Drifter Battleships into the incursions...the look on people's faces when their blinged out faction BS gets one-shot would be pretty funny. I for one am not inherently opposed to this. Tradeoff? Same thing needs to happen in Low/Null/WH's during your big Fights.
Fighting to evict people from a WH and BAM, Sleeper fleet. Cap Brawl going on? BAM. Bloodraider fleet. Good for the Goose, good for the Gander right? |
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1808
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Posted - 2015.02.23 23:43:55 -
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Sniper Smith wrote:Agent Unknown wrote:The should randomly drop Drifter Battleships into the incursions...the look on people's faces when their blinged out faction BS gets one-shot would be pretty funny. I for one am not inherently opposed to this. Tradeoff? Same thing needs to happen in Low/Null/WH's during your big Fights. Fighting to evict people from a WH and BAM, Sleeper fleet. Cap Brawl going on? BAM. Bloodraider fleet. Good for the Goose, good for the Gander right? it would be interesting if the ones they chose to open up on first in null depended on their standings with their faction.
shoot one too many blood raiders for free iskies? might bite your butt in the next big fight. |
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