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Cigs Mcduff
Tech 2 Holdings Limited
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Posted - 2006.10.08 15:01:00 -
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I think I have a solution to making ice mining more fun.
Make ice units smaller so they can be mined 5x faster.
To balance the value equation: Make ice units yeild only 1/5 of what they currently yeild
There one last thing I want fixed:
On a mining laser if you turn off the laser half way in between the cycle you get half your ore,
If you turn a ice harvestor off even 1 second before the cycle is done you lose everything.
By making the ice smaller and giving it the ability to be mined faster it can sort of solve this problem.
Theres is only one flaw to this idea that I can think of:
For anyone that has ice stockpiled in bulk it will severely devalue it.
I have a solution to this, The old ice in the belts should be taken away and the new ice should occupy the belts, but the old ice should still be able to be refined for the orginal yeild.
This is as simple as changing the names around.
This will not hurt the value of anyone stockpiled ore.
What does everyone think about this?
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Tokka Konnair
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.10.08 15:40:00 -
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Hypothesis: This change does not appear to increase the fun of ice mining. There is an undetermined reason for ice to be much large than ore. Conclusion: You are guilty of thought crimes against state and God. Surrender now. |
Admiral Machiavelli
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Posted - 2006.10.08 15:46:00 -
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Making ice mining "more fun" is not a game problem. Ice mining isn't supposed to be fun. MINING isn't supposed to be fun. It's work (as much as moving items from one compartment to another can be called 'work').
There is nothing that needs to be "fixed". Ice mining is meant to be a high-risk activity, hence the "you get nothing if you deactivate early". I like how, right now, Ice Mining is DIFFERENT from normal ore mining. Ice is incredibly important as its products fuel POSes and, assuming you are moon mining intelligently, provide a safe, constant source of income that can trump what you would make mining ice on its own.
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evistin
Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.08 15:46:00 -
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If we were training kids in maths, I would agree, but we are not. -----------
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Carryon
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Posted - 2006.10.08 16:03:00 -
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Ice mining is not fun because of the long cycle times - you fall asleep while waiting and thus a lot of people do it with alternate characters. Why the time is so long I do not know. It still takes a ton of time to get enough for a POS, which means only large corp have a change, which stinks. It is better for me to mine ore, sell it, and buy the POS fuel then mine ice.
Make ice mining faster I say! But then, I an a radical
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evistin
Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.08 16:08:00 -
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What I would like is to have another means of obtaining the oxygen we need, like a POS orbiting a Gas gaint and then siphon from the planet. -----------
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Weirda
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.10.08 16:34:00 -
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someone once suggested that mini-game of asteroids would open up while mining, giving you something to do. sound like more fun the cycle being 20%.
now if only they can put 'whack a mole' on gate camping... __ Weirda Join QOTSA Now Stealth Bomber Tweaks |
Quin Tal
Expeto Libertas
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Posted - 2006.10.08 16:50:00 -
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Ice mining is fun as it is! Knowing my POS is surviving with every ice unit I pull makes me feel like a big man!
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Hellspawn01
Amarr The Phantom Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.08 16:52:00 -
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Mining and fun doesnt work in the same sentence.
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Nathan Grey
Gallente Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2006.10.08 17:11:00 -
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Suggestions for making ice mining more fun: * read a book * do homework, write papers, etc. * post essays of your non-icing Eve experiences on Eve Gen Disc * patrol 0.0 with your PvP alt * watch movies * take power naps * play with your S.O.
Did I miss any of the obvious ones? The main reason I did a bit of ice mining was because I had other things to do, and the 8 minute cycle times made it easy to ignore the barge while crunching physics problems. ----------------------------------
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.10.08 19:35:00 -
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A problem with Ice mining (imo, the only real problem) is that it is not worth enough t be worth all the extra hassle. You can easily earn more on ore in equivalent security, and ore is (on the whole) more appealing to mine. The only reason for this, of course, is because of the big Macro interest in Ice (interest because it is so simple / boring to mine, making it simple for afk Macroers). With the market so flooded, value is pretty deflated.
To that end, I say remove Ice from all High Sec, making it a proper Level 2 Mining type thing. That is, it'd be worth alot more, and be harder too. Risk / reward is back in balance.
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SUPER J0SH
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Posted - 2006.10.09 02:14:00 -
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why would you want to make ice mining more fun?
if ice mining was more fun even more people would do it.
if more people do it supply goes up, prices go down.
Ice and ice product prices are too low already.
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spc fish
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Posted - 2006.10.09 11:57:00 -
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if you want to make it more fun, make it so you have to battle the ice rock. blast it with the laser, something explodes, you gotta fly somewhere for some reason, somethin to do with chasing the rock through hyperspace, missiles cant forget missiles, and toss in some random nudity
there, fun....
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Trojanman190
Caldari Entropy Tech.
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Posted - 2006.10.09 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nathan Grey Suggestions for making ice mining more fun: * read a book * do homework, write papers, etc. * post essays of your non-icing Eve experiences on Eve Gen Disc * patrol 0.0 with your PvP alt * watch movies * take power naps * play with your S.O.
Did I miss any of the obvious ones? The main reason I did a bit of ice mining was because I had other things to do, and the 8 minute cycle times made it easy to ignore the barge while crunching physics problems.
This dude knows the way of the miner. I have a hulk and I ONLY mine when i have homework or studying to do. Corporate m ice mining ops are FANTASTIC for getting homework done. If you dont have work to do, you probably shouldnt waste your time mining... you could be off doing somehting else, something fun.
The only exception to this is tanking hte hell out of your hulk with gist mods and see how high a spawn you can go =). Thats a bit of a minigame in and of itself.
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