Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Bel Tika
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
315
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 16:48:25 -
[31] - Quote
Dont listen to anyone that says "your playing the game wrong", if your enjoying what your doing your playing right |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
735
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 16:48:47 -
[32] - Quote
Uninstall and go play your other short attention span instant respawn shooter games, EVE isn't for you. Unless you have patience, this is more like the video games when your dad was your age when it wasn't about getting kill streaks and wanking off to make believe scoreboards while being an ******* about it. When you lose, it hurts....not your pathetic public stats at slightly over 50% (after awhile, being above 50% means you are suprisingly average like everyone else who is above 50% ) but the loss from acquiring the isk to pay for the ship and knowledge of how you F**ked up.
Also, its a game ment to have fun. Don't trust anyone, don't fly what you cannot replace easily, and its not real life so don't take it personally while also keeping all your other information private (cause information hurts in EVE, don't tell anyone your alts) |
Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
978
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 16:50:49 -
[33] - Quote
1 ) Forget about Battleships 2) Seriously. Forget about Battleships. 3) Ratting gives you ISK, scales to ability and gives you combat skills. 4) Join a long and estabilished alliance. Look for one that fits your personality.
CSM Ten movement for change.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
Status: Rabid carebear
Blog
|
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30474
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 16:59:24 -
[34] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Two things I would add:
Don't get addicted to your own kill board.
Put the Ritalin down. wait, i agree with the ritalin part, but only in order to pick up the adderall. is that what you meant too?
Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
|
Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
230
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 17:21:55 -
[35] - Quote
As soon as possible, fly a loop around hi sec just to prove to yourself that you won't be immediately killed. Also... the sky changes and it's really really cool.
GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ½
|
Nalia White
Tencus
81
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 17:26:29 -
[36] - Quote
always be nice to other fellow players (and i don't mean don't shoot em) and if they are not nice to you (no, killing you ingame doesn't count, i mean chat wise) then just ignore them. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6306
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 17:37:06 -
[37] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Two things I would add:
Don't get addicted to your own kill board.
Put the Ritalin down. wait, i agree with the ritalin part, but only in order to pick up the adderall. is that what you meant too?
I believe that the min-maxer scourge of online gaming is connected to Ritalin use.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
|
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
102
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 17:38:02 -
[38] - Quote
If someone tells you you don't have the SP to be useful, ignore them.
If someone tells you you are wasting ISK, ignore them.
You do not need anyone's permission to have fun in EVE.
If you can't beat them, waste their time and ISK.
90% of EVE players are terrible regardless of SP so be skeptical of good advice.
You've just read another awesome post by Chance Ravinne, CEO of EVE's #1 torpedo delivery service. Watch our misadventures on my YouTube channel: WINGSPANTT
|
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5173
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 17:47:32 -
[39] - Quote
Sibyyl wrote:Don't mine.
Edit: I'll qualify this further.
The amount of training time and skill points you accumulate will be the most inefficient investment you can make in terms of ISK per hour. If you're getting into industry it will be cheaper for you to buy the minerals you need (in the formula of time being money).
Skill points acquired for mining does not translate into an advantage for any other profession in EVE.
The things you learn while mining are rarely applicable to the rest of the game.
Mining is usually a solo activity, though it doesn't need to be that way (though the reality is that it often is).
If you are not mining because you can essentially go AFK doing it, you are going to find EVE boring. Things will become monotonous and you may find yourself looking for something better to do.
The player skill (read: not skill point) barrier for entry to mining is so low, it may hamper you from doing the riskier things in EVE. So... Having level 5 in all skills under "Resource processing", that's a bad thing? Dammit.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
|
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
7501
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 18:51:50 -
[40] - Quote
"The Skillpoint System and You" "How did you Veterans start?"
"The Skillpoint System and You"
"How did you Veterans start?"
|
|
ACESsiggy
University of Caille
30
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 19:30:43 -
[41] - Quote
Like I've said to all my friends Trying EVE on their trial account: hang in there past 10million SP. The game for me became fun once I was able to fly the frigate of my choice or fit that certain module without having to wait "x" amount of days.
GÇ£The open-minded see the truth in different things: the narrow-minded see only the differences.GÇ¥
|
Cannibal Kane
Blood Raiders Elite
4774
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 20:06:12 -
[42] - Quote
Just have fun, don't take the game to serious and do not let others dictate how you should be playing the game.
If you get pushed ingame push back. You just might make friends of them and a whole new world of gameplay could open for you.
"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
|
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
733
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 20:10:42 -
[43] - Quote
Run : P
Tal
|
ggodhsup
relocation LLC.
66
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 20:13:37 -
[44] - Quote
dont let it ruin your day.
i had a tough time with this at first......its been almost 10 years, and i have way more fun with eve once i got over this. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
33493
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 20:28:39 -
[45] - Quote
Aside from join Vendo, my other advice would be:
1. Don't worry about how many SP you have
Particularly for something like pvp, skillpoints give you more options for ships and fits, but player skill is every bit as important. Even with low skillpoints, you can develop your skowledge and skills as a player, so there's never a wrong time to start pvp if that's what you want to do.
2. It's not personal, everyone is just playing their own game
Loss is natural in this game and if you die, the other guy wasn't out to get you, he was just out to have fun himself. Sometimes when someone else is having fun, you won't; but it's not personal. It's just the game. Don't rage over it.
3. Eve is ultimately about trust
Despite the advice to trust no one, the game is much better when you find people you can trust. Be careful who you trust and have good processes to reduce risks, but don't limit yourself by being suspicious of everyone and everything. Most people in the game will help you.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
|
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
23034
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 21:11:03 -
[46] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:So... Having level 5 in all skills under "Resource processing", that's a bad thing? Dammit.
Plot twist: Sibs is maxed out on mining and is training up Resource Processing Vs. I give the advice about mining because of what I've seen it do to EVE players over and over again.
I personally enjoy mind numbing activities. For example, I love cleaning every inch of my living space at 2-3am in the morning quite regularly. I don't think my likes are really all that representative.
Rush to danger, wind up nowhere
Sabriz for CSM go go go
|
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30481
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 21:16:16 -
[47] - Quote
You're wrong. People of all walks of life are ruled by dem rocks.
Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
|
Big Lynx
The Moustachery
981
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 22:04:57 -
[48] - Quote
Quit Eve ASAP (and gimme all your stuff) |
Ryuuji Ibarazaki
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 23:15:24 -
[49] - Quote
- Dump your boyfriend/girlfriend.
- Divorce your spouse.
- Make sure your kids have someplace new to live.
- IRL human interaction will only hinder your new space-nerd lifestyle.
- Pets are recommended. Post pictures of them interrupting your gameplay on Reddit.
Congratulations, now you're winning at life.
|
Charlie Jacobson
305
|
Posted - 2015.02.24 23:27:53 -
[50] - Quote
Don't get angry when things don't go your way. Losing is supposed to be a fun learning experience. EVE is not a game for crybabies.
I support James 315 and the New Order of Highsec
|
|
Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
174
|
Posted - 2015.02.25 00:01:39 -
[51] - Quote
Davis TetrisKing wrote:
Don't play to make isk Risk dying Don't fly what you can't afford
You just created a new 'Rock, Paper, Scissors'.. They all cancel another out.
My advice to new players... Either buy a 70m+ sp toon or don't play. The skill gap is too broad and will never be bridged.
Stay away from Coalition warfare, you will hate the game and become bored of being told what to do and not given a reason for it.
|
Scira Crimson
No Tax No
0
|
Posted - 2015.02.25 00:04:17 -
[52] - Quote
Quote:1. Don't worry about how many SP you have
Particularly for something like pvp, skillpoints give you more options for ships and fits, but player skill is every bit as important. Even with low skillpoints, you can develop your skowledge and skills as a player, so there's never a wrong time to start pvp if that's what you want to do.
Unfortunatly this is very wrong. Though I am fairly new I know this has been repeated on the forum a dozen times until most people tend to believe it, but its wrong from a mathematical perspective:
Simply compare a full Lv 5 Pilot with a full Lv 4 Pilot. Once I heard a pro-argument for this ****** SP system saying that there are "diminishing returns", but I call this BS because of the multiplicative nature of all stats.
If you have 4,1% more damage and 4,1% more EHP your "combatpower" has already an +8,5% advantage. And this is RIDICULOUSLY HIGH for a PvP game.
I come from a medium high competitive szene in league of legends and I can tell you: losing "only" 2% damage would put you on such a disadvantage, that playing the came would not be fun anymore...
But in EVE we have TONS of multiplicative stats: -damage -EHP -CPU (=potential module slot) -regeneration (multiplicative to EHP) -speed (=EHP) -different damage modifier (for instance having -20% explosion radius for missiles might increase total damage by up to +~25, so those -5%s from skills count)
My conclusion: The PvP aspect is incredible gimped by EVE Onlines Skillsystem.
Personally Id like to do faction warfare, but as I have only 1,5 mio skillpoints its 100% useless to even try. Actually I tried but though it was interesting to experience "danger" the fun part of low SP FW is completly missing. Some things I learned while I trying:
1, most player fly T2 ships They easily have x2-x4 EHP because of native resistance. I even managed to shoot down a T2 ships shields and got excited, but after I got destroyed I found out that the enemy ship is armor tanked and has at least 50 (but rather 80%) resistance while I shot down a 0% shield. (this means the fight might look close, but in reality the enemy was like 5x stronger than me though we both flew cruiser. Also I am currently a Lv3+ Pilot, but Tech2 + Lv4-5 is too strong-->see scaling as I mentioned above).
2, Even if I fit a T1 cruiser with low range weapons and maximum reasonable offensive capability, FW complex ships outregenerate me me.
PvP is 100% pointless as a beginner, dont let anybody tell you something different, they are obviously lying and hope to feed on easy prey while roaming.
The only thing a beginner can do is focus on LV 4 missions. They will be possible after 2 months of "not playing the game".
What Id advice a beginner:
play security missions, learn the combat system(which is incredible btw). Learn all the game mechanics and possibilities. Dont grind, because of low SP your efficiency is reduced by 90% anyways.
Learning and offline progression, this is what you should do... |
Sweets Desu
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2015.02.25 00:05:45 -
[53] - Quote
Desimus Maximus wrote:Davis TetrisKing wrote:
Don't play to make isk Risk dying Don't fly what you can't afford
You just created a new 'Rock, Paper, Scissors'.. They all cancel another out. My advice to new players... Either buy a 70m+ sp toon or don't play. The skill gap is too broad and will never be bridged. Stay away from Coalition warfare, you will hate the game and become bored of being told what to do and not given a reason for it.
My good sir Brave would love a word with you. Null isnt for everyone but let me tell you about the fun/hr that BRAVE can offer...
|
Charlie Jacobson
305
|
Posted - 2015.02.25 00:12:29 -
[54] - Quote
Desimus Maximus wrote: My advice to new players... Either buy a 70m+ sp toon or don't play. The skill gap is too broad and will never be bridged.
That's some pretty sad advice. You can have a lot of fun with low SP chars, and the gap isn't really that big if you have a focused skill plan for the things you plan to use the character for.
On this character I have 82 million SP, but whenever I undock in a ship, I only get to utilize a small fraction of it.
I support James 315 and the New Order of Highsec
|
Paranoid Loyd
3957
|
Posted - 2015.02.25 00:25:55 -
[55] - Quote
Desimus Maximus wrote: My advice to new players... Either buy a 70m+ sp toon or don't play. The skill gap is too broad and will never be bridged.
I have a sub 10 mil SP alt I have been having the most fun with lately. (No she's not a ganker)
None of my toons have 70 m SPs
Knowledge of mechanics combined with friends trumps SPs any day. In some cases knowledge alone trumps SPs.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
|
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
293
|
Posted - 2015.02.25 01:02:47 -
[56] - Quote
Yes, it's Happy Fun Ball! The toy sensation that's sweeping the nation! Only $14.95 at participating stores! Get one today!
Warning: Pregnant women, the elderly, and children under 10 should avoid prolonged exposure to Happy Fun Ball.
Caution: Happy Fun Ball may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds.
Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at.
Do not use Happy Fun Ball on concrete.
Discontinue use of Happy Fun Ball if any of the following occurs: itching vertigo dizziness tingling in extremities loss of balance or coordination slurred speech temporary blindness profuse sweating or heart palpitations. If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover head.
Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain types of skin.
When not in use, Happy Fun Ball should be returned to its special container and kept under refrigeration. Failure to do so relieves the makers of Happy Fun Ball, Wacky Products Incorporated, and its parent company, Global Chemical Unlimited, of any and all liability.
Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an unknown glowing green substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space.
Happy Fun Ball has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq.
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
Happy Fun Ball comes with a lifetime warranty.
|
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries Fortis Et Certus
178
|
Posted - 2015.02.25 01:26:48 -
[57] - Quote
My advice is simple...
Only play EVE if you too much free time.... and it might seem like a cracking good game the first year... then it usually hits you that EVE is actually just repeating repeating repeating... A evil downward spiral which you will be trapped in..
Ergo... Play EVE too long and ure screwed.
:D |
Davis TetrisKing
The Vendunari End of Life
75
|
Posted - 2015.02.25 01:30:13 -
[58] - Quote
Scira Crimson wrote:Quote:1. Don't worry about how many SP you have
Particularly for something like pvp, skillpoints give you more options for ships and fits, but player skill is every bit as important. Even with low skillpoints, you can develop your skowledge and skills as a player, so there's never a wrong time to start pvp if that's what you want to do. Unfortunatly this is very wrong. Though I am fairly new I know this has been repeated on the forum a dozen times until most people tend to believe it, but its wrong from a mathematical perspective: Simply compare a full Lv 5 Pilot with a full Lv 4 Pilot. Once I heard a pro-argument for this ****** SP system saying that there are "diminishing returns", but I call this BS because of the multiplicative nature of all stats. If you have 4,1% more damage and 4,1% more EHP your "combatpower" has already an +8,5% advantage. And this is RIDICULOUSLY HIGH for a PvP game. I come from a medium high competitive szene in league of legends and I can tell you: losing "only" 2% damage would put you on such a disadvantage, that playing the came would not be fun anymore... --snip-- The only thing a beginner can do is focus on LV 4 missions. They will be possible after 2 months of "not playing the game". What Id advice a beginner: play security missions, learn the combat system(which is incredible btw). Learn all the game mechanics and possibilities. Dont grind, because of low SP your efficiency is reduced by 90% anyways. Learning and offline progression, this is what you should do... (play the game by not playing it) PS.: Quote:My advice to new players... Either buy a 70m+ sp toon or don't play. The skill gap is too broad and will never be bridged. So true. Actually I thought about buying a character, but this would feel so wrong... My approach is: Go into combat skill for 2 years, and then I will be able to fly ONE SINGLE ship competitivly. Sounds great?
The part about 5% being a big difference is true, I'll give you that, but only when the combat is set up to be fair. Eve is not that kind of game. It's pretty rare for a 1v1 to happen between people in the same ship and fitting style (aside from prearranged fights I guess). Heck you talk about league. This is similar to a 1v1 between a fighter and a support. Or the fed marksman vs the marksman who's been behind all game. You don't expect to win if you're in a bad spot so you don't engage in that fight, you wait for a better opportunity.
In league the design is based around 5v5, even players on each team, everyone starts on the same footing, both teams have access to the same income and the same items etc etc etc. Eve isn't designed for fights to be fair. Sure 1v1 a high SP character will likely beat a low SP char, but hey, this is eve, bring friends!
In League half the game is trying to set up situations where you fight with an advantage. Ganking 2v1, grabbing an objective when they're on the other side of the map or 2 players down, split pushing etc etc etc. If you don't think you'll win a fight dont fight. Change the circumstances so you have the advantage, then go in for the fight. Eve is like this but on a much grander scale.
And if anyone complains that their 60mil SP character died to 10 5mil SP characters that it's not 'fair' should really be looking at why he got caught, not complaining that they ganged up on him.
Different games, different styles.
|
Serene Repose
2304
|
Posted - 2015.02.25 02:35:01 -
[59] - Quote
And the dam burst! To quote Bob Dylan, "Take care of yourself. Get plenty of rest."
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
|
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23085
|
Posted - 2015.02.25 03:41:21 -
[60] - Quote
Desimus Maximus wrote:My advice to new players... Either buy a 70m+ sp toon or don't play. The skill gap is too broad and will never be bridged.
Stay away from Coalition warfare, you will hate the game and become bored of being told what to do and not given a reason for it.
My advice would be to ignore this particular gem.
A 70m+ SP character in the hands of someone who has no idea what they're doing is a series of hilarious killmails and a whole lot of tears waiting to happen. Pay to win doesn't work in Eve if you don't have the personal skills to back up the SP.
A newbie following this advice, spending money on plex, and buying a high SP character that can fly sweet ships. Then getting their arse repeatedly handed to them on a plate, by players with smaller ships and far less SP who do know what they're doing, is probably going to quit.
CCP want to retain more newbies, not lose them.
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |