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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
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Posted - 2015.03.03 11:06:02 -
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I accidently clicked "Prime your chache" today since I forgot about the download-on-demand thing. Then the launcher crashed while downloading.
When restarting, I selected "no" this time because I don't want to use download-on-demand, but the launcher ignored my input and still tried to download to the ressource cache on my C-drive. Is my installation now ****** or is there a way to stop the launcher from misappropriating my HDD? |
Gerart en Daire
EVE University Ivy League
6
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Posted - 2015.03.03 21:09:37 -
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Owen Levanth wrote:I accidently clicked "Prime your chache" today since I forgot about the download-on-demand thing. Then the launcher crashed while downloading.
When restarting, I selected "no" this time because I don't want to use download-on-demand, but the launcher ignored my input and still tried to download to the ressource cache on my C-drive. Is my installation now ****** or is there a way to stop the launcher from misappropriating my HDD?
If you clicked "Yes" to "Prime your cache" it shouldn't download, but unpack the .stuffs (many other people have reported that it starts downloading anyway though). If you click no to the priming question, you're effectively telling it to download the resource cache using DoD,. There's no way NOT to have a resource cache, either by unpacking or by DoDing it, with the current Singularity version, afaik. However, it *should* download in the background without you even noticing much (except some graphics missing occasionally at first), so if it's trying to download the full 7GB and showing the progress bar for that after you clicking "No", that's a bug.
If your launcher is actually running and you can adjust settings, on Windows (not possible on a Mac) it should be *really* easy to move the shared cache location to another drive, instructions have been out for a while at https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/testing-eve-online-download-on-demand-your-first-steps/ |
Gerart en Daire
EVE University Ivy League
6
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Posted - 2015.03.03 21:26:41 -
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Drizzd wrote: I gave you my suggestion in a previous post - use your ntfs' options to "move" the EVE folder to another drive and connect it with a file-system junction to C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE
This junction works like a logical link you might know from unix like systems - And since my main harddisk is a small SSD, I use them all the time without any problems.
I've used symbolic links/junctions to get around fixed install locations before (getting some game settings to sync to dropbox so they'd be the same across multiple machines, for example), but it's been a while and I thought they actually did make the system think that the space was taken at both locations (the link and the actual location)... seems I may have been wrong though, so I think I'll be trying a junction from C:\ProgramData\CCP\... to a folder on D: then, since my main problem is the launcher not working/allowing me to adjust any settings/cache forces itself on C: which doesn't have enough space.
In other news, since it's already 2 days from the weekend, it might be nice to get some dev responses in here again. Granted, several peoples' issues/questions would have been answered by reading the dev blogs/this thread better, but still. |
Gerart en Daire
EVE University Ivy League
6
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Posted - 2015.03.03 22:13:10 -
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Yup, file junction seems to work like a charm. Didn't go past the character selection screen yet, but I have 0 MB in C:\ProgramData\CCP\ where the link/junction is, and 300MB DoD'd to D:\EVEsharedCache, which is were I pointed the link.
So, to anyone else who's having their launcher crash, either directly and/or when they try to adjust the settings to move the cache away from C:, try the following:
- In your EVE singularity folder (make a copy of the tranquility folder and rename it to something else), create a shortcut of the repair.exe, modify the target line to be ...\repair.exe --server=sisi
- Run the modified repair shortcut, this will patch the Singularity folder to the newest Singularity version, instead of using the launcher to do it.
- Go to \bin\ in your Singularity folder, create a shortcut to exefile.exe (and you may want to move it up one folder level to the Singularity root folder), modify the target line to read ...\bin\exefile.exe /server:Singularity
- At this point you can run the exefile and check that you can login and get to the character selection screen. This will also start downloading the basic stuff (low res ship models etc.) to the cache in C:, but it shouldn't fill up gigabytes in seconds, so no worries.
- Go to C:\ProgramData\CCP\. The path continues with \EVE\SharedCache\ResCache\ and 256 hexadecimal-numbered subfolders, if you started up Singularity with the exefile as advised in the previous point. You can now delete the \EVE\ folder and all subfolders+contents.
- Open the Windows command prompt, doesn't matter what the current location is, type:
mklink /J C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\ D:\EVEsharedCache (feel free to substitute another target instead of D:\EVEsharedCache) - Go to D: and create the folder D:\EVEsharedCache, if you hadn't earlier (again, feel free to chose another location/name).
- Use the exefile shortcut to start up EVE again, DoD should be downloading filed to the new folder, with 0 space being taken up in C:\ProgramData\CCP. And you can now play on Singularity, and test how DoD works for you (do you get lag, do some resources take strangely long to download or are corrupted, etc). *huzzah*
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Worrff
Viziam Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2015.03.04 08:06:29 -
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A few queries that I hope someone who has carried this out can help with. The Devs stopped monitoring this thread some time ago, as they do.
What is the size of the new cache ?
Does priming the cache, move the current files (keep the overall size the same) or copy them (increase the overall size) ?
I currently have two separate installs of the Eve client, as if one gets corrupted during a patch I can just copy the other one over (happened more than once). So, if I specify a different location for each cache, that will effectively give me 2 separate client installs again, or I am missing something ?
I just use the launcher to patch and the exefile file to play. If I specify in the launcher to download everything before playing, will the exefile file still show GÇ£incompatible versionGÇ¥ when there is a patch available, or will something weird happen ?
Thanks :)
CCP Philosophy: If it works, break it. If itGÇÖs broken, leave it alone and break something else.
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dhunpael
47
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:54:15 -
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just restarted the test launcher and it updated itself. After that you have to look at an patch bar that isn't moving past 0% for quite a long time... |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
432
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:32:07 -
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I deployed an updated version of the EVE Launcher to Singularity. It should fix those of you on XP crashing. There's also improvements to some of the feedback, as well as the initial introduction to download on demand. You can trigger the first time popups via the /runfirsttimesetup command line argument.
For those who can't start the EVE Launcher you can download the installer from here: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/EveOnlineLauncher/beta/EVEOnlineLauncher_2_2_867066.exe |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
432
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:46:15 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:I deployed an updated version of the EVE Launcher to Singularity. It should fix those of you on XP crashing. There's also improvements to some of the feedback, as well as the initial introduction to download on demand. You can trigger the first time popups via the /runfirsttimesetup command line argument. For those who can't start the EVE Launcher you can download the installer from here: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/EveOnlineLauncher/beta/EVEOnlineLauncher_2_2_867066.exe
edit: Here's a more granular list of the changes:
- Improved the initial introduction dialogs to better explain what download on demand is, and allow configuration of the path that's used as the shared resource cache before downloading begins.
- Improved the feedback for some of the progress bars to better reflect their actual progress.
- Fixed a casing issue in the stuff file extraction process .
- Added a command line argument to force show the first time download on demand dialogs (/runfirsttimesetup)
- Fixed the pre-release warning popup to appear when it's actually on a higher version than the server has
- Added a field to the settings dialog on Mac to show the path being used in the shared cache, although changing it isn't supported at this time.
Things that aren't in place but we're working on:
- Translations. There's a lot of English only strings at the moment.
- Better error handling for a variety of extraction related issues such as running out of disk space, permission errors and such
- The ability to interrupt/cancel the extraction process it without crashing.
There's probably more - I've not kept up with this thread over the last few pages so if there's any good feedback in those posts I've not yet read them |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3191
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Posted - 2015.03.04 19:18:41 -
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"Downloading updates to res cache: (xxx/11.4GB)"
11.4 GB AAAARRRRGGGG!
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Castelo Selva
Forcas armadas DARKNESS.
70
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Posted - 2015.03.04 20:05:36 -
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Sorry, I am not english born so I need thing to be more clear for me (again, sorry for that).
CCP Atropos, as far my understand now, with this new launcher version, I can choose where to put my shared cache before the extraction actually happens. Is this right? This will help people with eve instalation in others HD.
After I did the extraction of my stuff files, the old stuff files will still be on the driver or should it be deleted? What the expected size of the new shared cache folder?
If I choose to do the extraction of my stuff files, what the expected amount of MB should I download to get in the game (minimal patch size)?
If I choose to download everything fist to after log in what the expected amount of MB / GB should I download?
I think this information will help people to check if the extraction goes right and if the launcher are download thing correctly.
Thank you for your time.
Castelo |
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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
828
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Posted - 2015.03.04 23:53:14 -
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Update still has this issue.
Changed the cache location to from the default. C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\Shared Cache\ It locked up could not down load a thing.
Any ideas?
If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide
See you around the universe.
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
435
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Posted - 2015.03.05 00:10:17 -
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Salpun wrote:Update still has this issue.
Changed the cache location to from the default. C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\Shared Cache\ It locked up could not down load a thing.
Any ideas? My gut reaction is that its probably permissions related: Program Files is a restricted OS folder and if the launcher isn't running as admin it probably doesn't have permission to write there.
If you can provide the log file it should hopefully list an exception to prove or disprove my guess. |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
435
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Posted - 2015.03.05 00:11:59 -
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I don't understand what you mean about resetting the launcher setup. Could you explain? |
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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
828
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Posted - 2015.03.05 00:23:28 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:I don't understand what you mean about resetting the launcher setup. Could you explain? There is a reset laucher settings text lower left.
If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide
See you around the universe.
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
435
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Posted - 2015.03.05 00:23:37 -
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Castelo Selva wrote:Sorry, I am not english born so I need thing to be more clear for me (again, sorry for that).
CCP Atropos, as far my understand now, with this new launcher version, I can choose where to put my shared cache before the extraction actually happens. Is this right? This will help people with eve instalation in others HD. Yes, that is correct.
Castelo Selva wrote:After I did the extraction of my stuff files, the old stuff files will still be on the driver or should it be deleted? They should be deleted by the EVE Launcher automatically.
Castelo Selva wrote:What the expected size of the new shared cache folder? Immediately after you have completed the extraction and before the EVE Launcher has downloaded anything it should be approximately 12GB which is the same size as the stuff files.
After that I do not know because it depends upon what assets have been updated and are not present in the shared cache at that time.
Castelo Selva wrote:If I choose to do the extraction of my stuff files, what the expected amount of MB should I download to get in the game (minimal patch size)? Again, I do not know be exact amount. It depends upon what has been changed on the test server.
Castelo Selva wrote:If I choose to download everything fist to after log in what the expected amount of MB / GB should I download? This is the same as the previous question. For the sake of argument, if we only released download on demand and no other changes (like new ships or textures) then you hopefully not have to download anything since all the required (necessary) assets are already available.
Castelo Selva wrote:I think this information will help people to check if the extraction goes right and if the launcher are download thing correctly.
Thank you for your time.
Castelo
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
435
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Posted - 2015.03.05 00:25:10 -
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Salpun wrote:CCP Atropos wrote:I don't understand what you mean about resetting the launcher setup. Could you explain? There is a reset laucher settings text lower left. I still don't understand what it is you're asking. |
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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
828
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Posted - 2015.03.05 00:25:35 -
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Also after updating the launcher it does not restart it you have to click on the icon again is this intended?
If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide
See you around the universe.
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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
828
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Posted - 2015.03.05 00:26:57 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:Salpun wrote:CCP Atropos wrote:I don't understand what you mean about resetting the launcher setup. Could you explain? There is a reset laucher settings text lower left. I still don't understand what it is you're asking. IF you use it it does not reset the location or the command line text.
pulling a fresh install on a second computer win 8 did start up the new features.
Needs a third option identify different cache location
Down load is still very slow.
Adding permissions to the file allowed me to down load 531 MB and it says ready but the win 8 version is still extracting with no errors just really slow when using the default.
If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide
See you around the universe.
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Ke'Daar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2015.03.05 05:27:15 -
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New Launcher Updated to v2.2.867066 ..on MAC
RES cache download 11.99GB ?
Really? Is this necessary?
Hoping to have a answer |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
436
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Posted - 2015.03.05 11:18:13 -
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Salpun wrote:CCP Atropos wrote:Salpun wrote:CCP Atropos wrote:I don't understand what you mean about resetting the launcher setup. Could you explain? There is a reset laucher settings text lower left. I still don't understand what it is you're asking. IF you use it it does not reset the location or the command line text. pulling a fresh install on a second computer win 8 did start up the new features. Needs a third option identify different cache location Down load is still very slow. Adding permissions to the file allowed me to down load 531 MB and it says ready but the win 8 version is still extracting with no errors just really slow when using the default. Needs a pop up when the launcher locks up because of permissions can it do that? Never could get the command line to work might want to add some info about how that works. Hope this info helps you and others trying to use it out. Getting the loading spiral on one client but not on the other. So to answer some of your points, if I've understood correctly:
- When you're talking of resetting the launcher you're referring to when you click this: https://i.imgur.com/65dg5Qz.png? If so, then I'm not sure whether we want to reset the shared cache. You could argue that since it exists outside of any single installation, resetting a single launcher should not reset a shared resource.
- You say that it needs a third option to identify a different cache location, do you mean that you should be able to specify a cache location per install? If so that completely undermines the point of a shared cache, and isn't something we're going to implement.
- I'll look into the startup arguments option (if I'm correct assuming that's what you're referring to when you say "command line")
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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
828
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Posted - 2015.03.05 12:51:21 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:Salpun wrote:CCP Atropos wrote:Salpun wrote:CCP Atropos wrote:I don't understand what you mean about resetting the launcher setup. Could you explain? There is a reset laucher settings text lower left. I still don't understand what it is you're asking. IF you use it it does not reset the location or the command line text. pulling a fresh install on a second computer win 8 did start up the new features. Needs a third option identify different cache location Down load is still very slow. Adding permissions to the file allowed me to down load 531 MB and it says ready but the win 8 version is still extracting with no errors just really slow when using the default. Needs a pop up when the launcher locks up because of permissions can it do that? Never could get the command line to work might want to add some info about how that works. Hope this info helps you and others trying to use it out. Getting the loading spiral on one client but not on the other. So to answer some of your points, if I've understood correctly:
- When you're talking of resetting the launcher you're referring to when you click this: https://i.imgur.com/65dg5Qz.png? If so, then I'm not sure whether we want to reset the shared cache. You could argue that since it exists outside of any single installation, resetting a single launcher should not reset a shared resource.
- You say that it needs a third option to identify a different cache location, do you mean that you should be able to specify a cache location per install? If so that completely undermines the point of a shared cache, and isn't something we're going to implement.
- I'll look into the startup arguments option (if I'm correct assuming that's what you're referring to when you say "command line")
Different cache location: If I want to make the shared cache a different location the way the current first install window is set up makes it unclear how to change the location of the shared cache. It needs a way to change the shared cache location besides a yes/no option. even a change to the wording to say if you want to change the location press no and change the location in the options menu and restart the launcher.
If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide
See you around the universe.
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
437
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Posted - 2015.03.05 13:08:38 -
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The first dialog (https://i.imgur.com/fqmh018.png) clearly says at the bottom 'Would you like to configure it now?' The second dialog (https://i.imgur.com/M25WccD.png) allows you to change it, and subsequently asks if you would like to migrate any existing assets you've got.
The reasoning for two dialogs is simple: there are a variety of paths people will use:
- Use defaults (click 'no' on the first dialog)
- Want to configure the path (click 'yes' on the first dialog) but not extract/migrate any existing assets (click 'no' on the second dialog)
- Want to configure the path (click 'yes' on the first dialog) and extract/migrate any existing assets (click 'yes' on the second dialog)
I'm willing to discus the wording if you think it's unclear. Please give me some ideas you think might work better. |
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
54
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Posted - 2015.03.05 13:39:33 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:"Downloading updates to res cache: (xxx/11.4GB)"
11.4 GB AAAARRRRGGGG!
Edit: The download is going very, very slowly. I'm on a big pipe, so it's not clear what the issue is. But I do notice that eve has one core of my four totally maxed out, during the download. MBP, intel core i7. Its like its too busy doing....something... to do the download in a timely fashion.
Seeing the same issue, and looking into this.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
1487
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Posted - 2015.03.05 13:47:33 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:The first dialog (https://i.imgur.com/fqmh018.png) clearly says at the bottom 'Would you like to configure it now?' The second dialog (https://i.imgur.com/M25WccD.png) allows you to change it, and subsequently asks if you would like to migrate any existing assets you've got.
I'm willing to discus the wording if you think it's unclear. Please give me some ideas you think might work better.
That's cool and all, but personally I would like to see it do as a few other installers do and show a list of hard drives and their available space with a one-click switching between them.
http://i61.tinypic.com/23i72fa.jpg |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3194
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Posted - 2015.03.05 13:59:21 -
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Part of the problem was at my end. I kept trying different ways to connect, to speed things up. It turns out that the download of the cache is very unforgiving of having your connection changed in the middle. I would:
Start the client See a really slow download Change my connection (say, from wireless to Ethernet, or when I went from work to home) Find the client stops downloading Have to force quit the client Restart the client, just to see it sit there, not downloading anything (but still running flat out on one core) Force quit the client Find the resource cache, and trash it Start the client, and hope it finishes before I need to interrupt it.
Eventually, I did get a full download, and I'm on Sisi. Anyway, if I must download 11 gig, that process needs to be more resistant to real world screw-ups.
Also, finding the cache is a challenge. The window that shows you the location is too small. The entire path does not fit, and as its greyed out, you cannot scroll it over to see it all.
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Nolan Kotulan
Nova Tabula Rasa
95
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Posted - 2015.03.05 15:09:44 -
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Started again from scratch. The new launcher updates correctly and restarts without any problem.
But:
- I didn't get any dialog box, didn't get any option, nothing...
- The download is very fast at start and get slower and slower as the time past...
- The percents are totally out of sync with the downloaded size...
- The download stops again at around 60%...
- The launcher don't freeze again when the download stops, but...
- ...it freezes when I try to interact with it.
http://i.imgur.com/yDQ2n4l.jpg
So, I still can't log on SiSi anymore...
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Ke'Daar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2015.03.05 16:47:33 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:"Downloading updates to res cache: (xxx/11.4GB)"
11.4 GB AAAARRRRGGGG!
Edit: The download is going very, very slowly. I'm on a big pipe, so it's not clear what the issue is. But I do notice that eve has one core of my four totally maxed out, during the download. MBP, intel core i7. Its like its too busy doing....something... to do the download in a timely fashion. Seeing the same issue, and looking into this.
I have the exact same problem as this guy
Edit: On the Mac Client |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
668
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:30:55 -
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I've added a simple command line tool for managing the shared resource cache. This tool can be found in the bin folder under the EVE installation.
You run it from the install folder for EVE, in a command window. Run it with no arguments to show a list of commands (and the current cache location).
The rescache tool has the following commands:
- verify - scans all the files in the index and calculates the md5 checksum used to verify the contents of the files. If the checksum for any file doesn't match the index, the file is deleted.
- download - downloads any files listed in the index that are not found in the cache.
- purge - purges any extra files from the cache.
- move - moves the rescache to a new location. This moves the folder itself and updates the registry entry the client uses to find the cache.
- diff - scans the cache against the index and reports the number of files missing and extra files.
Neither the EVE Launcher nor the EVE client should be running while using this tool.
The Python source for this lives in a public GitHub repository: https://github.com/ccpgames/rescache
The tool currently only works for Windows - I'm starting work on Mac support - hopefully this will help us figure out some of the Mac issues we're having in the launcher. If any brave soul out there wants to help with this on the Mac, the source is out there.
I hope this turns out to be a useful tool.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Ayni Naskingar
Axolotl Armageddon
6
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Posted - 2015.03.05 20:50:52 -
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I don't konw if it is know yet, but when i start the Launcher I get this exception: (Pastebin) When starting the launcher in admin mode I don't get it. |
Hizumi Mizushiro
Earth Alliance Expeditionary Force
1
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Posted - 2015.03.06 08:04:01 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote: The tool currently only works for Windows - I'm starting work on Mac support - hopefully this will help us figure out some of the Mac issues we're having in the launcher. If any brave soul out there wants to help with this on the Mac, the source is out there.
Would love to help you test it out; soon as you can figure out how to not depend on the winreg module to fetch rescache path information |
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