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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.02.27 10:34:25 -
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Hey!
Imagine for a moment...
With the new Download On Demand client, the total EVE Online size on your hard drive is practically irrelevant.
This means Corp / Alliance / Custom paint jobs! Hell, "ship designer" could even become a sandbox career.
But most importantly, imagine Project Legion being implemented on PC as an EVE simple patch instead of a fully different game. People could use their avatars (characters, not titans) seamlessly! From a commercial standpoint, it makes perfect sense:
- You already have a large playerbase that can try out your new "game" in mere minutes!
- You can attract regular FPS players and initiate them to the universe of EVE Online!
- Burned out of EVE? Tired of Legion? Just spend more time on the other!
- Great press! Nobody has done that before! Sure Star Citizen will (even though the space part has nothing to do with EVE), but we can be first.
- EVE suddenly becomes cool in the eyes of non-eve players! Because EVE is no longer a game about spaceships, its a universe including a MMO, an FPS, and... You guessed, an Occulus Rift experience !
- Because you could apply the same logic to the Rift! Just plug your rift and ride your fighter!
- All that only 400mb away from any player in the world with a pulse, a computer (7o) and a connexion.
How awesome is that??
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Ma'Baker McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2015.02.27 10:43:17 -
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Not-really-Stealth WiS thread. |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.02.27 10:47:09 -
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Ma'Baker McCandless wrote:Not-really-Stealth WiS thread.
Its more "Run'n'gun-on-Planets'n'Stations" (RnoPnS) but yeah
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Kestral Anneto
Umbra-Domini SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.27 11:01:26 -
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isn't there enough pew pew in the game already? Do we REALLY need an FPS/TPS to bring in the CoD crowd, because thats the sure fire way of trashing the game. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.27 11:02:12 -
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Yeah, Ok, like an EVE client that grows to fit your activities in the EVE universe?
How do you maintain this much optimism after all this time? Have you seen what they're doing with icons right now?
Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.02.27 11:22:12 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Have you seen what they're doing with icons right now?
I know right, the shape over color logic is odd with icons that will be so tiny in-game. And even now I see new players watching my tutorial videos and asking how to get my UI icons of the time because theirs (the new ones) are confusing.
Still, here we are talking about something cool for the players, AND cool for the business of the company as a whole. You add something to the game without taking anything away in return (you can compare it to having no UI -> having an UI. Instead of having UI 1 -> UI 2). Thus, I don't see any reason not to do it. Except if obviously they have an ever better idea, or if somehow its technically impossible.
I'm not saying LEGACY CODE... But...LEGACY CODE.
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Ma'Baker McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2015.02.27 11:23:37 -
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Nuke the site from orbit. |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.02.27 11:31:47 -
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To be clear, merging the games on the same client wouldn't mean walking around your own ship or boarding other ships, I mean that would be cool but its a different problem entierly.
I'm just saying, having a continuity between games (mostly through the character, as continuity through combat gameplay is hard, hasardous, and CCP won't do it), and using the DoD client as a way for CCP to encourage players of one of the three games to try out its products.
There is a difference between being on PS3 playing dust, having to buy a PC, and having to download EVE, to play EVE... And being on Project Legion, and literally clicking one button on the menu try out EVE with only a single loading.
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Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
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Posted - 2015.02.27 12:03:45 -
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Altrue wrote: You already have a large playerbase that can try out your new "game" in mere minutes! You can attract regular FPS players and initiate them to the universe of EVE Online!
Isn't that what dust was supposed to achieve? Empirical evidence shows an overlap of a few hundred players between FPS enthusiasts and EVE. |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.02.27 14:43:22 -
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Altrue wrote: There is a difference between being on PS3 playing dust, having to buy a PC, and having to download EVE, to play EVE... And being on Project Legion, and literally clicking one button on the menu try out EVE with only a single loading.
I need to emphacise that they didn't make dust on PC because they didn't want that overlap. Yet it hapenned anyway. Its 2015 and people usually play more than one game, instead of forcing them to go see the competition, you should embrace the fact and capitalize on it.
Every time I play Planetside 2, I have a sad thought that I could be playing Dust on PC instead, I would stay within the EVE Universe and give my money to CCP, not Daybreak.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.02.27 15:17:10 -
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Why must we fight all the time? I just want to stand around admiring all the G.I.R.L.s in Jita station!
CSM Ten movement for change.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.02.27 15:36:34 -
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Guy In Real Life? I don't see what you're talking about!
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Miko Jin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.27 15:39:56 -
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INB4L Posting in a neckbeard thinks he is smart thread. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:23:18 -
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Altrue, why were you regurgitating CCP's EVE + Valkyrie + Legion vision again?
Am I missing something?
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Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:30:09 -
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Download On Demand is why
And the upcoming fanfest. Allow me to be optimistic
Who knows! Plus its not the same "vision". I'm not talking about gameplay features impossible to implement like valkyrie fighters fighting in eve online, I'm just talking about character continuity.
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:37:05 -
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CCP has presented their idea for single sign on for character continuity.
These 3 games interacting with each other in the same world? I think it's obvious CCP does not have the development resources to implement t that. They don't even have the 3 games as separate games yet. I think you're putting the cart before the horse.
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:42:43 -
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Actually I never said they should interact directly. i.e TQ wouldn't be able to handle the tens of ticks/sec of a dogfighting game in the middle of a huge fight.
Sibyyl wrote: They don't even have the 3 games as separate games yet.
You know that it would probably be easier to create the connexion before releasing the products, right? In software dev the most ahead of time you are when you think about new features, the easier it is to implement them later.
Another way to counter your point would be to remind you that Valkyrie is pretty much waiting for the Occulus to launch, and Project Legion already has some level of completion thanks to Dust.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:59:14 -
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Altrue wrote:How awesome is that??
Not nearly as awesome as this.
Definitely not as awesome as this.
Supposedly not as awesome as this.
Doesn't even rank here.
So... unless CCP is going to add dinosaur content.. I give it a 'meh'.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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marVLs
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Posted - 2015.02.27 17:01:37 -
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HD Textures - only that interest me |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.27 17:57:50 -
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Altrue, aren't you native French? Your English is perfect.
Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.02.27 18:05:26 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Altrue, aren't you native French? Your English is perfect.
I am, thank you Rain for the compliment I feel cooler now
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Varathius
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.27 20:12:48 -
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Before that happens, Eve will come out for the Nintendo 3DS. |
DaReaper
Net 7
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Posted - 2015.02.27 20:51:38 -
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The on demand client makes alot more sense for things like tablets. You can install the main stuff you need for eve on the 32/64bg drive, then add in a flash card and have the ondemand stuff go there. You are not sucking up all your hard drive space, and as you need it the game downloads parts. So if all you do is stay in a station all day and trade, you won;t need all the extra space stuff.
And if it starts filling up your flash drive, you can delete the cache and start over.
Plus you can get into the game faster.
Your idea is more like what SoE was going to do. You pay a single fee and get access to all SoE products. Plasy as much of them as you want, or as little for one set price.
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DaReaper
Net 7
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Posted - 2015.02.27 20:53:38 -
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To the 'linking all ccp games' comment:
CCP needs to either go all or nothing.
Meaning, each game on its own, while not making any mention of linking them, untill they are ready or decide to actually link them.
Or they are all linked in a meaningful way from day one.
Anyway, fan fest will be interesting
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.27 23:03:38 -
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Altrue, I think I get what you are saying. Thank you for your clarification.
I'd like to say that I'm as excited as you are to find out more about CCP's plans in upcoming fanfest.
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
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Posted - 2015.02.28 08:58:32 -
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Let me skin thread. You know, it's like I always say, lots of people think they're artists....really.
"The worst poetry is written with the best of intentions." -Oscar Wilde-
Visual artists are a lot more cruel. Take my word for it.
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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