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Spawck
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Posted - 2006.10.12 19:13:00 -
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What ship with what weapon types and upgrades (mods) give the most DPS in the game (excluding capital ships)? Which is best DPS dealer for short range, and which is best for longer range? Looking for PURE DPS here, assumig all other things are equal.
Thanks
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MECTO
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Posted - 2006.10.12 19:15:00 -
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close: Mega long: Armag
i think?
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Eve Hel
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Posted - 2006.10.12 19:35:00 -
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close: Eagle ? long: Eagle ?
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Jenstruant Fogg
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Posted - 2006.10.12 19:40:00 -
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Navy Megathron
Neutron Blaster II (Void) 8x Cormack Magnetic Field Stabs
Hits around 1450 DPS iirc
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Angus McLean
Gallente Divinity Trials
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Posted - 2006.10.12 19:43:00 -
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Armageddon
7x Mega Pulse Laser II (w/ Conflagration) 8x Heat Sink II's
Oh wait those days are over
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Guurzak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.12 19:46:00 -
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Why? Raw DPS doesn't kill anything. Effective DPS varies hugely depending on the target and situation.
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Spawck
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Posted - 2006.10.12 19:59:00 -
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Why max DPS? Because that is how I come up with a final configuration for my ship. If I want a ship that is able to tank well, I lay out a configuration that give me the max. tank. disregarding all else. Then I remove/change items to achieve my other secondary needs in a ship. If I am doing ECM, then I start my layout one way, and modify to get my final configuration. So I of course would not acutally use any of the setups people are recommending, just want to know that given that I have a need for a ship to dish out the most DPS possible, I start with the best DPS ship/setup possible, and I will then modify that to get my final configuration.
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.10.12 19:59:00 -
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NYX
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wierchas noobhunter
Caldari Praxiteles Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.12 20:06:00 -
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rax \0/
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Super frenchy
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.10.12 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Super frenchy on 12/10/2006 20:13:01 Dominix: 6 neutron T2 + void L + 3 dmg mod T2 + 5 ogre T2 ( + 2/3 rcu T2 probably )
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Christopher Dalran
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Posted - 2006.10.12 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Super frenchy Edited by: Super frenchy on 12/10/2006 20:13:01 Dominix: 6 neutron T2 + void L + 3 dmg mod T2 + 5 ogre T2 ( + 2/3 rcu T2 probably )
You'll get even more damage using Sentry Drones over heavy drones.
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SkottE
SkottE Technologies
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Posted - 2006.10.12 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Christopher Dalran
Originally by: Super frenchy Edited by: Super frenchy on 12/10/2006 20:13:01 Dominix: 6 neutron T2 + void L + 3 dmg mod T2 + 5 ogre T2 ( + 2/3 rcu T2 probably )
You'll get even more damage using Sentry Drones over heavy drones.
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Bradshaw Kingsman
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Posted - 2006.10.12 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Christopher Dalran
Originally by: Super frenchy Edited by: Super frenchy on 12/10/2006 20:13:01 Dominix: 6 neutron T2 + void L + 3 dmg mod T2 + 5 ogre T2 ( + 2/3 rcu T2 probably )
You'll get even more damage using Sentry Drones over heavy drones.
more damage per salvo perhaps, not dps
short range yeah the navy megathron prolly wins that with the possibility of getting 8 low slots long range armageddon is pretty much the king there with the rof bonus, though I would love to see the numbers on a machariel
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Guurzak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.12 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Spawck given that I have a need for a ship to dish out the most DPS possible, I start with the best DPS ship/setup possible, and I will then modify that to get my final configuration.
You're missing my point. Raw dps is a meaningless figure until you place it in some kind of context. A rage torp Raven is probably at or near the top of the DPS charts against a stationary, very large target but will not do any damage at all to anything with legs. In contrast, a Sabre may very well have the close to the maximum DPS possible vs interceptors, but you probably wouldn't take one to a station siege.
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Spawck
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Posted - 2006.10.12 21:33:00 -
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Okay, I see your point.
This would not be for dishing out damage on a stationary target. I am going to be in a gang of about 10 ships, PVP situation. My main function is to dish out damage to larger PVP targets, such as other BS's. This would not be in a solo PVP situation. I would not be sniping at a gate, etc. So I have no ECM, scram or other types of responsibilities. I am to take out the biggest threat as qucik as possible. So I probalby would not want to be taking out Frigs, maybe not even cruisers.
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Raivi
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2006.10.12 21:42:00 -
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If you can get a few target painters pointed at your target (2-3 for BS, more for smaller ships), then a rage torp Raven would probably fit the bill. Without target painters, I'd say go with a Mega and blasters.
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Areconus
Caldari Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.10.12 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Raivi Edited by: Raivi on 12/10/2006 22:06:36 If you can get a few target painters pointed at your target (2-4 for BS, more for smaller ships), then a rage torp Raven would probably fit the bill. Without target painters, I'd say go with a Mega and blasters.
Against battlecruiser sized or bigger targets, you'd be hard pressed to out-dps this (the lack of tank makes it a fantasy setup, but I can still drool):
Navy Raven
HIGH-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Siege Missile Launcher II [20xBane Rage Torpedo] Siege Missile Launcher II [20xBane Rage Torpedo] Siege Missile Launcher II [20xBane Rage Torpedo] Siege Missile Launcher II [20xBane Rage Torpedo] Siege Missile Launcher II [20xBane Rage Torpedo] Siege Missile Launcher II [20xBane Rage Torpedo] Siege Missile Launcher II [20xBane Rage Torpedo] Ion Blaster Cannon II
MED-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
LOW-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Reactor Control Unit II
DRONE BAY : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Whatever
There ya go!
Gloria Stitz-
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Foulis
Minmatar Chosen Path Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.12 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Areconus
Originally by: Raivi Edited by: Raivi on 12/10/2006 22:06:36 If you can get a few target painters pointed at your target (2-4 for BS, more for smaller ships), then a rage torp Raven would probably fit the bill. Without target painters, I'd say go with a Mega and blasters.
Against battlecruiser sized or bigger targets, you'd be hard pressed to out-dps this (the lack of tank makes it a fantasy setup, but I can still drool):
Navy Raven
HIGH-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Siege Missile Launcher II [20xBane Rage Torpedo] Siege Missile Launcher II [20xBane Rage Torpedo] Siege Missile Launcher II [20xBane Rage Torpedo] Siege Missile Launcher II [20xBane Rage Torpedo] Siege Missile Launcher II [20xBane Rage Torpedo] Siege Missile Launcher II [20xBane Rage Torpedo] Siege Missile Launcher II [20xBane Rage Torpedo] Ion Blaster Cannon II
MED-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
LOW-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Reactor Control Unit II
DRONE BAY : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Whatever
There ya go!
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Sable Moran
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bradshaw Kingsman long range armageddon is pretty much the king there with the rof bonus, though I would love to see the numbers on a machariel
Long range + high DPS on a projectile platform does not exist. You can get rather respectable firepower out of a Machariel to about 15-25 km with autocannons but that is hardly long range.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:29:00 -
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Can Titan enter siegemode? Its got more turrets than a Dread.
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migwar
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:35:00 -
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In a small gang situation, primaries generally go, ECM - Damage - tanks as far ive seen.
Just make sure you got a couple of scorps as wingmen and they should get killed before you :)
depending on how target painters stack, are they all neccesary?
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Celeste Storm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Bradshaw Kingsman I would love to see the numbers on a machariel
A Mach can dish out over 1000dps with T2 ammo and maxed skills in gunnery and missile (around 755 after standard BS resists (PvP fitting)). this number also includes T2 med drones.
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Xen0phobiak
TARDZ Lacuna Viators Imperium
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Posted - 2006.10.13 11:30:00 -
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I've had my mach dish out over 600dps with 1400IIs, but its in the form of 6000+damage, then a ten second wait until the next volley :D.
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Celeste Storm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Xen0phobiak I've had my mach dish out over 600dps with 1400IIs, but its in the form of 6000+damage, then a ten second wait until the next volley :D.
This is not dps. Arties have great burst dmg, but lack any good dps.
The Mach in my example uses T2 800mm ACs.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 11:56:00 -
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short range: mega + neutrons + 4dmg mods + ogres II... it beats ordinary raven with rages, navy raven probably comes close.
Long range: raven, geddon(tachygeddon is uber). Sig is not eve related
Eve related? Copyright of ISD?
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Hitokiri 'ger
Caldari Mystic Lion Hearts Freelancer Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.13 12:55:00 -
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how about the old fashion all out raven setup. its cheap, but very hard to fly and youd have bad escap / tank posabiletys. [thats why i named my raven, Victory or Death ^^]
the key elements: 6x sigi II (t2 for a greater variety on torps) 4x sensor damper (mor details later) 3-5x balistic II (as many as posible)
the two high slots and the two mid slots ar for sepecialisation. a nice alrownd setup i use wuld be this one
6x sigi II 2x heavy energi distablisiser - 4x damper
1x [this slot depends on your job; solo or with takler? , pirat/anitpirat or escort? if a 20-28km scrambler wuld be enuth to scramble your enemys fit on]
1x [ the hardest slot to fit. this slot influences whot drons you use, how fast you can fly , how fast you can lock a target etc. it wuld tack to long to explain it pricisly, so hirs whot you culd fit. ab/mwd (to ceap the distenc betwin a mega but kils your cap), weber(to have a litle mor time til a mega gets into optimal), sensorbooster (the normal use of sensorbuster + a chance to lock sum ecm ships befor they lock you), scrambler (mor scramble strength), heavy capbooster ( to keap the destabilisers runging, good vs megas that com to close). if you use weber drones you donte need teh stuff to keap a mega on distenc - but you do no damag on small ships. small ships cant do much vs you and you cant do much vs tehm.
- 3x bcsII 2X energi grid stuff to mack it all fit
--------------------------- back to the damper thing.you can damp every ship to under 13km (without sensorbooster) a norjmal bs has 1 sensor booster so theyr gona have about 20km range(ships with 2 sensor booster ar not that big a deal either). a small ship cant posebly do enithing without geting into your distabiliser range. with a takler you an do very good pirating and anit pirating, it takes a bs longer to lock the takler as it wuld servive.
its not the ship with the highest dps but it dus all hell dps , vs big things it dus do the most dps. its one of the best bs setup vs capitals. and its NOT mainstream. >a raven with that setup cant tank or runn away at all- wel you cant have everything ^^ <
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Areconus
Caldari Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.10.13 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: Areconus on 13/10/2006 22:43:15
Originally by: Celeste Storm
Originally by: Xen0phobiak I've had my mach dish out over 600dps with 1400IIs, but its in the form of 6000+damage, then a ten second wait until the next volley :D.
This is not dps. Arties have great burst dmg, but lack any good dps.
The Mach in my example uses T2 800mm ACs.
Umm, if it deals 6000dmg every ten seconds, then it is 600 dps, sorry, whether or not it is regarded as better alpha rather than burst
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 22:58:00 -
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navy raven with rage torps and a bunch of painters would hit hard. I saw a screenie of kayosoni hitting for like 1100 per torp or some crazy crap like that.
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xenodia
Gallente RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.13 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Spawck Okay, I see your point.
This would not be for dishing out damage on a stationary target. I am going to be in a gang of about 10 ships, PVP situation. My main function is to dish out damage to larger PVP targets, such as other BS's. This would not be in a solo PVP situation. I would not be sniping at a gate, etc. So I have no ECM, scram or other types of responsibilities. I am to take out the biggest threat as qucik as possible. So I probalby would not want to be taking out Frigs, maybe not even cruisers.
In that case, megathron with blasters, or POSSIBLY rage torp raven, but only if you had target painting help from gangmates and you knew for sure you were only going to be shooting battleships.
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QwaarJet
Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.13 23:31:00 -
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Large DPS that's a bit more effective than limited battleships would be an Astarte with 7 Neutrons and void ammo. "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimter Of Wisdom.Run!" |
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