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Ay Terona
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.01 04:43:08 -
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I am used to pvp in low sec, but earn my isk with high sec missions. I am wanting to stop using high sec to earn isk and love the SOE ships (well...it also helps that the only Cruiser 5 skills I have are Gallente and Amarr). This fit (all 5s) has 35.1k EHP omni, and with reactive that will go up quite a bit. 165.2 HP/s perma tank (small guns off) which will also go up quite a bit with the reactive.
With 2 Geckos the DPS is 454. The small guns are for frigates that get close, but add nearly 100 DPS if I am brawling something.
Price is ~450M ISK.
This is not meant for a specific type of pirate. I am hoping with omni damage and reactive tank this will allow me to tackle low sec sites anywhere, but I am ignorant to the actual dangers.
Any advice. Look good? Terrible?
Thanks!
[Stratios, Exploration [PvE]]
Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Reactive Armor Hardener 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Drone Damage Amplifier II
10MN Afterburner II Large Capacitor Battery II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Core Probe Launcher II Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Gecko x2 |
Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
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Posted - 2015.03.01 15:07:07 -
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Your fit in EFT with all Level Vs shows around 160-180 ehp/s depending on pirate faction you are fighting. I'm sure you can run some of the low sec sites with this. Me personally, i e.g. wouldn't enter a 5/10 or 6/10 with such a light tank.
But you can try it out and see how it performs. Just be careul, if there are webs/scarms in the site or it could get very ugly very fast for your little stratios. |
Ay Terona
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.01 16:07:11 -
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FYI that is omni tank you checked. Worst case scenario is a 50/50 split between 2 damage types that should put me around 200 HP/s. That is the same as my Ishtar that runs (ran after the nerf) L4s. The Ishtar is little faster, though, because it does not have a buffer. |
Kines Pavelovna
Norman's Meat Market
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Posted - 2015.03.01 16:40:24 -
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You get more raw dps, and a bit better tracking, out of a single gecko and 4 Hammerheads, it's only 6.3 more dps though, so it's more about the isk loss exposure. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:29:52 -
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Omni damage/omni tank really won't cut it in higher end combat sites, at least not with a Stratios. That fit probably couldn't finish a BR/Sansha 5 without popping and can't apply enough of the right damage to finish a Sansha 6 (and will struggle with BR 6). It will pop in Serpentis 6, but you're not really interested in that site anyhow. Angels your reactive should make up for the explosive hole and be somewhat manageable. Ditto Guristas, which are really the easiest sites in low. |
Ay Terona
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.01 20:31:26 -
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Thanks for the replies. My update keeps the reactive, but replaces the adaptive with a hardener. I also will use 1 Gecko and 4 damage specific medium drones.
Note that my cargo hold includes everything for pvp, combat scanning, exploration, etc. Still leaves me with about 300 m^3, should be enough to have way more loot than I would ever need. Total bill is 550M including cargo and drones.
[Stratios, Combat Exploration [PvE]]
Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer (Faction Specific) Hardener II Reactive Armor Hardener 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Drone Damage Amplifier II
10MN Afterburner II Large Capacitor Battery II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Core Probe Launcher II Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Gecko x2 Hobgoblin II x5 Vespa EC-600 x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Infiltrator II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Vespa II x5
Cargo Scanner II x1 Nanofiber Internal Structure II x1 Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I x2 Expanded Probe Launcher II x1 Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I x2 Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II x1 Warp Core Stabilizer II x4 Armor EM Hardener II x1 Armor Kinetic Hardener II x1 Armor Thermic Hardener II x1 Corpii A-Type Small Nosferatu x1 Sisters Combat Scanner Probe x8 Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8 Relic Analyzer II x1 Data Analyzer II x1 Mobile Depot x1 Mobile Tractor Unit x1 |
Ay Terona
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.01 21:00:30 -
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One other thing, I am based very near Dodixie (i.e. very near some Amarr low sec and also Gallente FW space).
Are there sites that I should skip (i.e. so hard the reward is not worthwhile)? Should I move to a different part of space? I have only ran a single 4/10 in my life (Serp 4 in an Ishkur), so most |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2266
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Posted - 2015.03.01 21:51:25 -
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Skip Minor Blood Annex and Serpentis Logistical Outpost. Watch your back on 5/10s in the last room and be ready to warp out if you can't get a handle on damage fast enough. Most of your neuting in Blood low sec comes from Harbingers and Archbishops, both of which hit you from 30.
Oh, and Serpentis Annex is, last I checked, still pretty buggy. Good luck with that one. |
Ay Terona
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.01 22:29:34 -
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Thanks for all the help. I will also carry an extra gun. In brawl range it is an extra 120 DPS total with guns. So my total theoretical DPS is just shy of 600.
Worst case scenario for me is a 50/50 split of incoming Thermal/Explosive. My tank will be roughly 207 HP/s with a 42.9k ehp buffer.
With incoming damage from a single type my tank is well above 400 HP/s and a roughly 80k ehp buffer.
While my tank is much better than my Ishtars on paper, it was also doing this orbiting a MTU from >50km most of the time. I will be in brawling range for maximum potential with this fit. I sure hope I know what I am doing lol... |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2015.03.02 01:58:10 -
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Just for some comparison numbers, I tested out a Stratios that pushed out 583 DPS and tanked 337/sec Serpentis specific. I didn't buffer it, so I was sitting on ony 20k EHP. It was able to handle both Serpentis and BR 5/10s, but only by sniping the overseer and getting out. It also slogged through a BR 6/10 for me.
The fit you're suggesting still strikes me as too low on repair, but it could work. Carry a damage control just in case you need that extra bit of wiggle room. And while Geckos look great on paper I seriously wouldn't suggest them in low sec combat sites if you know what you're up against; resists on things like overseers are highly specific and you end up wasting a huge portion of paper damage from the Geckos shooting at them. That's all before mentioning their range/travel time issues on what essentially has to be a kiting boat. |
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Ay Terona
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.02 04:15:06 -
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First night going out...only found some unrateds and got a whole 12M in loot.
I am basically using wormholes to sample different parts of lowsec. Hopefully my 1 Gecko + 4 Mediums works out.
Worst case, hopefully, I can get room aggro with target painter and send in drones while staying way out of range. |
Aplysia Vejun
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.02 12:03:20 -
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You have got Gallente Cruiser 5 and good drone skills. Why don't you use an ishtar? With an armor fit you can run all lowsec sites AND scan down all combat sites. |
Nycha
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.02 15:41:28 -
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Im not sure why youre using a stratios if youre purely going to brawl. A gila would make more sense in this case.
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Ay Terona
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.02 16:48:57 -
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Honestly, I just love the Stratios. My favorite ship in the game. |
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