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Ian Novarider
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.13 07:58:00 -
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The following question is based on one of the Innominate Nightmare Episodes, where he visits MC and does some word games about the "Mining Coalition" ......
Question to the experts :
I see a lot of merc groups getting employed in wars recently. How much pay does a merc get from such a contract ? Payment by Killmail ? By participation ? A flat rate ? A share calculated by a certain system ?How do you see the role of merc corps in EVE ? Getting more and more important ? Can you run such a corp with contract pay alone ? Or do you HAVE to do mining/trading to pay the bills (and therefore try to get 0.0 territory) ? How much (percentage) of your game time is PvP time and how much is non PvP money making time ?
And how much pay - a rough guestimate - does a merc corp get for a certain contract ? What does a 20 friends fun roaming gang make per week/month ? What does a large group like MC or KIA (capital ship capable groups) charge per week/month/objective ? I dont want confidential data about contracts, just an idea about the order of magnitude.
Thanks ! Its always amazing how complex EVE is ... you always find areas you know nothing about despite having played for months and months.
Have fun
Ian
Quote: Know thy enemy and know thyself and thou will be victorious in all thy battles.
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Dr CapitalShip
Caldari Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:44:00 -
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Quality merc corps tend to charge at least a billion per week. You may get cheap ass merc corps as well, but you pay good money and get good results.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:57:00 -
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one merc corp i know charge 50m per week plus 20% of total value ISK wise of all ships destroyed u can set a pre determined value after that they stop shooting (ie pay up front) or a pay as u go system
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Laythun
Undercover Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 09:06:00 -
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Its all relative.
How goods they are.
What rep they have
etc etc etc.
I mean in Cosmic Fusion's heyday we could comfortably charge 3-500 mil a week for an alliance war (there was less than 40 active members) possibly more.
Given that we were offered 1 bill for one days work at one point, it mostly depends on your perception by the eve community as to what u can charge.
If people fear you u get more, if people 'enjoy' fighting you u tend to get less.
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EvilNate
Caldari Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 09:09:00 -
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It depends on the contratc. vs PvP, industrialists, mixed. How many members are in the corp, how many corps in the alliance, expected resistance, etc.
For a small alliance for a week could easily cost up to 1bil+
Nate.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.13 09:27:00 -
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It depends on the job. We have no set rates, but I can give a few answers, I suppose.
Most people assume that hiring the MC is absurdly expensive. The fact is that all of the MC corps have an industrial backbone whose weekly profits far outstrip nearly any contract payment. This means that we're not dependant on the contract pay to fund our operations.
Contract pay to the MC is typically used as a supplement for actual expenses incurred while on the job. Extra ships, siege fuel, etc... These are the types of things the contract pay typically covers.
Do we make a profit? Almost always, but it's not usually very much. There have been a few exceptions to this, where what we were paid far exceeded the money we'd put into the operations.
It's also not always about ISK either. We've also been paid in minerals, lucrative trade deals, land ownership, BPO's and even future favors. There are profits in many things. A successful merc outfit has to have a broader view than just a blinking wallet.
For the record, the MC has worked for as little as a billion ISK a week. We've also had offers in the "tens of billions" of ISK range in worth.
One thing is certain though - we don't do payment plans or anything of that sort.
I hope the above helps, even as vague as some of it may be.
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Ian Novarider
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.13 09:31:00 -
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>>>plus 20% of total value ISK wise of all ships destroyed>>>>
I assume that means target ships destroyed. Enemy shipping "sunk".
Or are merc losses compensated in some way too, to encourage more daring actions ? Of course, this would only apply to merc corps with a good rep sheet where you know they dont lose ships out of incompetence but due to heavy fire.
That several hundred million ISK to 1 bill ISK / week ... is it enough to cover all expenses ? I get the impression from Innos post : "No." How is the payment divided amongst the merc pilots usually ?
Have fun
Ian
Quote: Know thy enemy and know thyself and thou will be victorious in all thy battles.
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Tharrn
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2006.10.13 09:31:00 -
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Do you also work for the promise of sexual favors? :P
Sorry, couldn't resist ;)
Now recruiting!
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Ian Novarider
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.13 09:55:00 -
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>>>I hope the above helps >>>
A lot , thanks - especially coming from you.
Have fun
Ian
Quote: Know thy enemy and know thyself and thou will be victorious in all thy battles.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:19:00 -
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Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 13/10/2006 10:19:15 how about u fight ur wars urself - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Ian Novarider
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:29:00 -
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>>how about u fight ur wars urself>>>
Thank you for this insightful and on-the-topic comment.
Have fun - we do
Ian Novarider
Quote: Know thy enemy and know thyself and thou will be victorious in all thy battles.
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