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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1347
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Posted - 2011.12.17 18:45:00 -
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Velin Dhal wrote:Funny, you haven't made a constructive comment here in at least 3 pages. All your doing is calling people out for using forum alts.
Anyway I'm not going to argue with some 16 year old. Go attempt to insult people elsewhere kid.
adding to my previous reply, it's called discrediting the opponent and making their arguments lose their weight.
you posted some drivel in the old capital balancing thread about how supercap pilots shouldn't have to lose their ships to one stupid mistake (which happened before and after crucible) because their ships are worth tens of billions of ISK. why are they any special?
it's clear that you want the game made easier for older players, while the learning curve is made steeper, to the detriment of the new player. you're against any improvements that would benefit new players, make nullsec more accessible, and make skill training less of a chore.
were you opposed to the addition of the skill queue and removal of learning skills as well? ;p |
Amarr Champine
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.12.17 18:56:00 -
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Lol, this is just getting pathetic, Andski is just reaching now. You either call someone a mean name or change the subject. Now you are on the topics of supers. Ugh, do us all a favor and drop corp and move up to high sec. Your idea ain't gonna fly, it sucks, but time to move on. Go make a new post, perhaps you can propose that every new player gets the choice of a carrier or a dread at the carrier creation screen? Maybe Mitts would vouch for that one. I find it hard to believe that goons give two sh*** about newer players all of a sudden. You could do the game more benefit by not scamming every knucklehead who thinks you guys are worth joining.
You guys simply want this so you can speed up your alt training. =P Commence the typical "you're a coward, posting alt omgwtfbbq moron carebear" insult tangent. If it helps I will send you some +5s for the holidays.
Actually scratch the carrier or dread proposal, you might lose one or two and then propose that players should have an unlimited number at their disposal.
The "Hammer" of CVA has spoken. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1347
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:02:00 -
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Amarr Champine wrote:Lol, this is just getting pathetic, Andski is just reaching now. You either call someone a mean name or change the subject. Now you are on the topics of supers. Ugh, do us all a favor and drop corp and move up to high sec. Your idea ain't gonna fly, it sucks, but time to move on.
You're pretty goddamn stupid if you think that I'm ~scared~ of losing my pod or dying in nullsec. I don't even PvE - I just go out and kill things.
Amarr Champine wrote:I find it hard to believe that goons give two sh*** about newer players all of a sudden.
it's a well-known fact that goonswarm has high SP requirements and only recruits 2003 players.
when you need to bring my alliance affiliation into this, it shows how desperate you are. I know, I should hide behind a forum alt!
Amarr Champine wrote:You could do the game more benefit by not scamming every knucklehead who thinks you guys are worth joining.
most people are probably better off joining goonswarm than whatever worthless renter alliance your main is in. |
Amarr Champine
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:08:00 -
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I must be a psychic cause as Judge Dredd would say, "I'd knew you'd say that"
You know what buddy, we are all stupid, you are the special one. That is the same thing I tell my friends mentally ill brother mongo. You can be my special boy mongo, err I mean Andski.
New Andski proposal:
Remove forum alts from the boards!
My proposal, make people use their real names on the boards, perhaps our special boy wouldn't be so quick to toss around unclever insults. =P
Happy holidays! |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1347
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:11:00 -
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Amarr Champine wrote:I must be a psychic cause as Judge Dredd would say, "I'd knew you'd say that"
You know what buddy, we are all stupid, you are the special one. That is the same thing I tell my friends mentally ill brother mongo. You can be my special boy mongo, err I mean Andski.
New Andski proposal:
Remove forum alts from the boards!
My proposal, make people use their real names on the boards, perhaps our special boy wouldn't be so quick to toss around unclever insults. =P
Happy holidays!
isn't it funny how you can't even come up with a good insult and fall back to playground nonsense? |
Amarr Champine
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:15:00 -
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Just taking your lead mate, don't get salty about it now. I did wish you a happy holiday. =)
Though I do find it funny that the guy calling everyone morons and idiots since the first page is thumbing his nose at my "playground" insults. Its funny that your insults now seem to be a mirror of mine and everyone elses complaints against you. |
Alexander Jabez
Reaper Co. The Dominion Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:20:00 -
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Lol the game should be easier for older players. The learning curve in this game is what we all love about it., and it is definatly not getting steeper. Just because you and your lot can't grasp the concept of using a jump clone properly doesn't warrant ccp dumbing down the game. "to the detriment of the new player" my @$$. The server constantly has almost double the amount of people it did a few years back.
This game being geared toward the older player is how it should be. Its a reward for sticking with the game. Being able to afford and use expensive implants is one of the benefits. If you don't like the risk head back up to high sec or stfu and go back to WoW. :) They keep things simple for you and nothing bad will happen when you die. Apparently that really does suit you better.
and for the record insulting somebody doesn't discredit their point, just makes the fact that you have no intelligent response that much more apparent.
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Amarr Champine
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:24:00 -
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Alexander Jabez wrote:Lol the game should be easier for older players. The learning curve in this game is what we all love about it., and it is definatly not getting steeper. Just because you and your lot can't grasp the concept of using a jump clone properly doesn't warrant ccp dumbing down the game. "to the detriment of the new player" my @$$. The server constantly has almost double the amount of people it did a few years back.
This game being geared toward the older player is how it should be. Its a reward for sticking with the game. Being able to afford and use expensive implants is one of the benefits. If you don't like the risk head back up to high sec or stfu and go back to WoW. :) They keep things simple for you and nothing bad will happen when you die. Apparently that really does suit you better.
and for the record insulting somebody doesn't discredit their point, just makes the fact that you have no intelligent response that much more apparent.
Let me pretend to be Andski for a sec...
LAWLZNUBLOLGOGETBENTGOONSROCKSYOUAREMORONIDIOTSLOUDNOISESSSSSS.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1347
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:27:00 -
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Alexander Jabez wrote:Lol the game should be easier for older players. The learning curve in this game is what we all love about it., and it is definatly not getting steeper. Just because you and your lot can't grasp the concept of using a jump clone properly doesn't warrant ccp dumbing down the game. "to the detriment of the new player" my @$$. The server constantly has almost double the amount of people it did a few years back.
except that your mouthbreathing lot wants it to be easier for older players to the detriment of the newer players - see all the bad posting from idiots with your alliance tag (who the **** are "The Dominion Empire") in the supercapital balancing thread.
Alexander Jabez wrote:This game being geared toward the older player is how it should be. Its a reward for sticking with the game. Being able to afford and use expensive implants is one of the benefits. If you don't like the risk head back up to high sec or stfu and go back to WoW. :) They keep things simple for you and nothing bad will happen when you die. Apparently that really does suit you better.
and for the record insulting somebody doesn't discredit their point, just makes the fact that you have no intelligent response that much more apparent.
i'm not being "schooled" by some idiot who can't spell, sorry.
I've never played WoW, I have enough ISK that I don't give a crap about losing implants, and sorry, but you are wrong if you think that insulting someone doesn't discredit them when those insults have a basis in reality. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1347
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:29:00 -
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Amarr Champine wrote:Let me pretend to be Andski for a sec...
LAWLZNUBLOLGOGETBENTGOONSROCKSYOUAREMORONIDIOTSLOUDNOISESSSSSS.
I am so much more concise than that.
"get bent idiot" |
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Amarr Champine
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:44:00 -
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Andski wrote:Amarr Champine wrote:Let me pretend to be Andski for a sec...
LAWLZNUBLOLGOGETBENTGOONSROCKSYOUAREMORONIDIOTSLOUDNOISESSSSSS.
I am so much more concise than that. "get bent idiot"
Lol you really told me hotshot. Nothing worst then a guy in what equates to a videogame gang thinking what he says matters when because he is in it. You would be better posting from a forum alt, you simply discredit your toon and your alliance(not that they needed much help) Yeah, goons have numbers and are known, but they are not known as good pilots. So good job, you are the eve equivalent of the special olympics athletes. Fun to watch, but only because you know they are handicapped. Anyhow, if the isk don't matter to ya, then distribute it to the masses Robin Hood. There you go, problem solved. I will be in the NPC channels referring all new players to come to you for their +5 money. Will this work for you?
Lol @ your italics cupcake. |
Amarr Champine
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:52:00 -
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Andski wrote:Alexander Jabez wrote:Lol the game should be easier for older players. The learning curve in this game is what we all love about it., and it is definatly not getting steeper. Just because you and your lot can't grasp the concept of using a jump clone properly doesn't warrant ccp dumbing down the game. "to the detriment of the new player" my @$$. The server constantly has almost double the amount of people it did a few years back. except that your mouthbreathing lot wants it to be easier for older players to the detriment of the newer players - see all the bad posting from idiots with your alliance tag (who the **** are "The Dominion Empire") in the supercapital balancing thread. Alexander Jabez wrote:This game being geared toward the older player is how it should be. Its a reward for sticking with the game. Being able to afford and use expensive implants is one of the benefits. If you don't like the risk head back up to high sec or stfu and go back to WoW. :) They keep things simple for you and nothing bad will happen when you die. Apparently that really does suit you better.
and for the record insulting somebody doesn't discredit their point, just makes the fact that you have no intelligent response that much more apparent. i'm not being "schooled" by some idiot who can't spell, sorry. I've never played WoW, I have enough ISK that I don't give a crap about losing implants, and sorry, but you are wrong if you think that insulting someone doesn't discredit them when those insults have a basis in reality.
Haha thats funny, but seriously....
Who the **** are you? In or out of the game. Don't remember ever hearing about Andski the great, the feared pilot of eve, killer of rifters. Your alliance may be known, but you are not. This does not make you relevant or an expert on matters of the game. It makes you some guy who is now known to make bad proposals and will not back them up with reason. Good day. |
Alexander Jabez
Reaper Co. The Dominion Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:56:00 -
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lol I never used the term "schooled" and I don't think I misspelled anything. And who cares what somebody from my alliance posted on a previous topic or that you don't know us? Doesn't change the fact that, once again, you have no retort other than to say that I can't spell. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1347
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:59:00 -
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Amarr Champine wrote:Haha thats funny, but seriously....
Who the **** are you? In or out of the game. Don't remember ever hearing about Andski the great, the feared pilot of eve, killer of rifters. Your alliance may be known, but you are not. This does not make you relevant or an expert on matters of the game. It makes you some guy who is now known to make bad proposals and will not back them up with reason. Good day.
you seem very bitter about something, and I cannot resist but ask, "you mad?" |
Amarr Champine
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:00:00 -
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I said GOOD DAY SIR!
The "Hammer" of CVA has spoken! |
Alexander Jabez
Reaper Co. The Dominion Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:09:00 -
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And this "easier for older players" sh@t is ridiculous. Why shouldn't it be easier for older players? These implants do not give that much of a bonus at all. I'm actually curious to see if you have an actual reason why the game should change from being geared towards the older to the newer player. And don't give your bull **** reason of it drives people away because we both know that there are more people playing now than a few years back. So any response?
Lemme cover part of your argument for you really quick:
"Alex you are an idiot who can't spell in an alliance nobody knows"
So that part is covered for you now. :) |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
200
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:37:00 -
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I'm sympathetic to the idea behind this, but I won't easily support ideas where the solution to a problem is removing that aspect entirely from the game just to get rid of the issue. I would simply prefer to see a fix to the issue, since you have to address the same issue repeating with hardwirings anyway. That fix would be to allow easier access to jump clones and allowing local clone switching without any timers.
How I vision it is to basicly make jump clone access an easy, basic facet of the game. Easiest solution for this is propably to allow people to simply buy jump clones from the market and allow transferring them(generic jump clone item) as a normal item, so they are easy to move around and get. When you activate one it becomes one of your jumpclones and an implanted jump clone would function like a rigged ship, since they work in a very similar fashion. So basicly if you repack it, you lose the implants and it stops being your jump clone. If the goal is to have everyone have access to them, make it so you get one jumpclone and the required skill from a jumpclone tutorial.
I wouldn't lose any sleep if learning implants would go away, but as i said it would still leave the issue with having wrong hardwirings intact. That issue needs to be solved too and any solution to that issue will also solve the learning implant issue at the same time, since it's basicly the same problem. So once you have a fix for the hardwiring issue, you've also succesfully removed the need to remove learning implants. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1347
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:42:00 -
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I like the idea of "jump clone vouchers" being sold on the LP store as opposed to requiring ridiculous standings (because lol grinding missions) or access to a player outpost. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1347
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:51:00 -
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Alexander Jabez wrote:And this "easier for older players" sh@t is ridiculous. Why shouldn't it be easier for older players?
It isn't. One careless mistake can still cost you your ship and pod, whether you are in an Ibis or in an Erebus.
Alexander Jabez wrote:I'm actually curious to see if you have an actual reason why the game should change from being geared towards the older to the newer player.
False dilemma? The game is not geared towards the older player precisely because of the way the skill system works (diminishing returns.)
Alexander Jabez wrote:we both know that there are more people playing now than a few years back.
Precisely for that reason - the game is balanced to an extent where high-SP veterans cannot simply farm kills on newer players (aside from ganking ibises in lowsec, but that's different)
Alexander Jabez wrote:Lemme cover part of your argument for you really quick:
"Alex you are an idiot who can't spell in an alliance nobody knows"
Yep! |
Alexander Jabez
Reaper Co. The Dominion Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.17 21:00:00 -
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The standing thing with the jump clones is high, but since you have the ability to make one with a rorqual or with access to an outpost in null sec I don't think its that big of a deal. Especially since if you don't have the access to null you probably don't really need a jump clone anyway.
Point being if you live in high sec there is no point in jumping out of your +5's unless its to switch to your slaves, and if you do live in high sec you are up there enough to have the standing with someone to make a jump clone anyway. If you live in null you probably have access to a station. So I don't really see the point to making jump clones more available. |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1347
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Posted - 2011.12.17 21:08:00 -
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Alexander Jabez wrote:The standing thing with the jump clones is high, but since you have the ability to make one with a rorqual or with access to an outpost in null sec I don't think its that big of a deal. Especially since if you don't have the access to null you probably don't really need a jump clone anyway.
Point being if you live in high sec there is no point in jumping out of your +5's unless its to switch to your slaves, and if you do live in high sec you are up there enough to have the standing with someone to make a jump clone anyway. If you live in null you probably have access to a station. So I don't really see the point to making jump clones more available.
If you live in high-sec, you don't need to jump out of your implant clone, but wartargets (or a guy in an instalocking pod-popping thrasher) can ruin your day. It'd be nice to see jump clones made more accessible (not everyone who lives in 0.0 has easy access to them unless they're blue to a sov-holding alliance) and it'd allow people to use their wallet to their advantage, not having to grind standings when they have the ISK ready (as is the case with implants, faction mods, faction ammo, etc.) |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
85
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Posted - 2011.12.17 21:39:00 -
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You really haven't given a reason why learning implants are bad for the game.
I'd also like to point out, different aspects of the game all age together:
As you grow higher in skill points, you become experienced enough to make isk much more quickly than a new player. As you grow higher in skill points, the average training time of skills you train are measured in weeks, not days or hours. As you grow higher in skill points, you have a much more expensive clone, you often fly much more expensive ships, and so using expensive implants is NOT a big deal.
There is no easy-mode of older players... some things get easier (making isk), but things get riskier too (losing a pod).
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Alexander Jabez
Reaper Co. The Dominion Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.17 22:55:00 -
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Yea in no way was I saying the game is easy on older players, They have as much risk, in fact more risk than a new player. But being able to afford expensive implants is an advantage though that an older player should have. Getting rid of learning implants takes part of that advantage away. But i agree with you guys that the game isn't on easy mode for older players, nor should it be. But the older players should be allowed their advantages, especially with the risk that comes with having them. The game should not be toned down because some people are scared of flying around in their implants. |
Alexander Jabez
Reaper Co. The Dominion Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.17 22:58:00 -
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[quote=Andski] If you live in high-sec, you don't need to jump out of your implant clone, but wartargets (or a guy in an instalocking pod-popping thrasher) can ruin your day.
Getting your day ruined is a part of EVE |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1347
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Posted - 2011.12.17 23:00:00 -
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Alexander Jabez wrote:Getting your day ruined is a part of EVE
You're an idiot. That is not what I am discussing. |
Alexander Jabez
Reaper Co. The Dominion Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.17 23:21:00 -
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Andski wrote:Alexander Jabez wrote:Getting your day ruined is a part of EVE You're an idiot. That is not what I am discussing.
LOL back to that again. And bull **** it isn't. The whole point of this thread was to bring up the idea of dropping learning implants because they are "inconvenient" for certain players and players in null sec don't use them and it'd make the game better for new players and I don't wanna get podded in +5's and have my day ruined. Directly or indirectly this idea of yours reduces the risk for people who fly around low/null in +5's because all of a sudden everyone has them naturally in their head.
I get what you are trying to do, you are trying to get people trained up quicker, people train up quick enough as it is.
Will +5's get you into a ship quicker? YES
Will they have you flying that ship a lot better, quicker? YES
Will it break your character if you don't have +5's? NO
Taking away the risk of flying around with +5's and possibly having your day ruined to make the game a little more care bear friendly isn't worth it. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1347
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Posted - 2011.12.17 23:29:00 -
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you're a broken record
RISK VS REWARD EVE SHOULD BE MISERABLE FOR NEW PLAYERS etc. etc. |
Alexander Jabez
Reaper Co. The Dominion Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.17 23:32:00 -
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Andski wrote:you're a broken record
RISK VS REWARD EVE SHOULD BE MISERABLE FOR NEW PLAYERS etc. etc.
Yea your right because learning implants definatly make this game rough on new players. I don't know how I got through it with those damn learning implants keeping me down.... |
Velin Dhal
Blood Phage Syndicate The Dominion Empire
69
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Posted - 2011.12.18 00:20:00 -
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Andski wrote:Alexander Jabez wrote:Andski wrote:Velin Dhal wrote:Being lazy is not a valid reason to change the game idgaf about this anymore, tbqfh, but it's clear that you're an elitist jerk and should get out~ And that is the problem right there in the proverbial nutshell. The "elitist jerk" is like that because he actually enjoys a game that challenges him and knows how to play correctly. You guys are whining about flying in +5's and losing them and oh no what if i die and get podded and lose all my implants. how is that fair??? New proposal, every time you get podded instead of getting a new noob ship (which from the sound of some of these posts many of you don't belong in anything else) everyone just gets a set of slaves or crystals. and the fact that andski's only defense to ANY point against his proposal is to insult the poster in some way proves how care bear this idea is. to get one thing out of the way here, you're an idiot. moving on, it has nothing to do with his objection to the proposal (because he's an elitist jerk) but his whole "GO BACK TO WOW OR RIFT, NO SKILL TREES EVE IS UNIQUE (((" bullshit, because again, he's a 16 year old elitist who wants to feel ~special~ for playing a bad spaceship game ;p
Honestly, If EVE is such a bad game, then why are you playing it ?
Now lets get this discussion back on track instead of posting irrelevant insults. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
93
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Posted - 2011.12.19 02:15:00 -
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Not supported.
It is my opinion that having to make those choices (and for new players they *can* be difficult choices) are what sets Eve apart (read: above) other MMO's. Removing learning implants and granting everyone the +5 bonus auto-magically removes one layer of "choice" and "danger".
I honestly don't think (again, imho) that removing implants are going to get people out pvp'ing more - "people" as a general rule, will do what they want when they're ready. Some guys/gals get in the game and are in 0.0 w/in two weeks, some never make that transition. Risk aversion exists before implants.
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(FYI: Posting from main )
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
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