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nossler
Ghost Net Industrialists Alternate Allegiance
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Posted - 2015.03.05 05:57:10 -
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Well thanks CCP you have resolved the dilema of working out how to get my caps back from low sec to our new home in null some 13 carrier jumps away. With the recent changes to SOV which clearly was tailored to benefit the large blocks and wormhole coalitons, the continued nerfing of ships that we have long relied on in null to earn isk (Tengu, Carrier Fighter Assist) etc., I now only need an interceptor and a scan ship. I just need to be able to get back out after we run out of ihubs.
PVE carriers are dead unless you are a member of the large blocks and everyone else in null will be spending their prime time not ratting, mining or exporing or building what everyone else needs, but sitting in standing fleets waiting for the inevitble entosis attack on a sov structure. Masterfully packaged bait and swich. I can't even esitmate the isk I will get back selling them all.
Well the artwork certainly has reached new heights and ship models are superb, but the mechanics that brought many of us to the diversity of this game have systemically been dismantled in favor of large block pvp and the distruction of assets, all other content is just a distraction.
I do suggest that new players be spawned in nullsec so that they can see early and first hand the futility of spending years training skills to succeed in nullsec only to have them nullified under the guise of balancing. Just my opinion.
I am sure you will lock the post immediately because we don't want any dissention in the ranks.
Cheers,
Well Done |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20174
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Posted - 2015.03.05 05:59:16 -
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Mmmmkay.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
80
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Posted - 2015.03.05 06:02:10 -
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1st!
Edit: wtf, a wild UaE appears!
Just Add Water
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30761
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Posted - 2015.03.05 06:05:18 -
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Post was easy to read and oddly calm. Good show / I enjoyed it.
Help, I can't download EVE
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
579
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Posted - 2015.03.05 06:12:18 -
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nossler wrote:PVE carriers are dead unless you are a member of the large blocks and everyone else in null will be spending their prime time not ratting, mining or exporing or building what everyone else needs, but sitting in standing fleets waiting for the inevitble entosis attack on a sov structure. Masterfully packaged bait and swich. I can't even esitmate the isk I will get back selling them all.... I find it difficult to believe intelligent people would decide to spend time like this, however, I understand intelligence isn't a requirement to be the big dogs these days. Nice rant, though. Sorta.
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
291
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Posted - 2015.03.05 06:19:09 -
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If you look back over the decade plus of EVE was there ever an effort to stimulate PvP? Or was it pretty much always about winning, by any means necessary?
The whole Null/ High Sec wedge has done nothing but promote the hording of asset and ISK, painting Dev's in to a corner in terms of this balance game they play. We own thousands of everything and use none of it, only keeping it for a better payday in Jita.
The corner gets tighter and tighter and eventually Development is going to go full desperation and start beating down the walls with their over powered nerf bat. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4792
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Posted - 2015.03.05 06:23:53 -
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Oh look, another special snowflake that can't find the correct spot for their feedback.
And like most of the other special snowflakes, it's factually wrong in several ways about the changes.
Signed - someone that's not a 100% supporter of the changes.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing
1645
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Posted - 2015.03.05 06:27:54 -
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Brace yourself for the "afk camping duty" that's coming. As it's the tool of choice to drop system defense. No excuses for missing your shift, since all you're doing is... nothing. |
Mrs Gordon
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.05 06:32:25 -
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nossler wrote: PVE carriers are dead unless you are a member of the large blocks and everyone else in null will be spending their prime time not ratting, mining or exporing or building what everyone else needs, but sitting in standing fleets waiting for the inevitble entosis attack on a sov structure.
Not only PVE carriers are deads... seems that all cap are dead since jump fatigue & jump range nerf.
Who will take the risk to send caps far away, with no fast return possible to defend home ? |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
291
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Posted - 2015.03.05 06:37:25 -
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On a more selfish note, I'm going to get back all the ISK I dumped in to SBU BPO's that I have and never had a use for..
TY CCP! |
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Mrs Gordon
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.05 06:40:51 -
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nossler wrote:I am sure you will lock the post immediately because we don't want any dissention in the ranks.
Hope it will not be closed just like my last post for the rule 5, mine was not troll and this one is not.
Except if they consider something that "do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote" as troll.
But that sounds quite abusive. |
Mrs Gordon
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.05 06:42:37 -
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post error... |
Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
360
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Posted - 2015.03.05 07:32:24 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:1st!
Edit: wtf, a wild UaE appears! Super Effective! |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
34330
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Posted - 2015.03.05 08:06:15 -
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Well you know the deal.
Give me your stuff. I won't let it mothball.
Solo Titan roam in lowsec. It will be epic.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Llawa
Mosquito Squadron Mordus Angels
18
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Posted - 2015.03.05 09:07:48 -
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No OP, the joke is in YOU not us. Because y'know, haha haha.
Ha. |
Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
577
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Posted - 2015.03.05 09:22:34 -
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nossler wrote:I am sure you will lock the post immediately because we don't want any dissention in the ranks.
That's because "rant" would be too big word for this.
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Reiisha
Repracor Industries
722
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Posted - 2015.03.05 09:54:01 -
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nossler wrote: Well thanks CCP you have resolved the dilema of working out how to get my caps back from low sec to our new home in null some 13 carrier jumps away. With the recent changes to SOV which clearly was tailored to benefit the large blocks and wormhole coalitons, the continued nerfing of ships that we have long relied on in null to earn isk (Tengu, Carrier Fighter Assist) etc., I now only need an interceptor and a scan ship. I just need to be able to get back out after we run out of ihubs. PVE carriers are dead unless you are a member of the large blocks and everyone else in null will be spending their prime time not ratting, mining or exporing or building what everyone else needs, but sitting in standing fleets waiting for the inevitble entosis attack on a sov structure. Masterfully packaged bait and swich. I can't even esitmate the isk I will get back selling them all. Well the artwork certainly has reached new heights and ship models are superb, but the mechanics that brought many of us to the diversity of this game have systemically been dismantled in favor of large block pvp and the distruction of assets, all other content is just a distraction. I do suggest that new players be spawned in nullsec so that they can see early and first hand the futility of spending years training skills to succeed in nullsec only to have them nullified under the guise of balancing. Just my opinion. I am sure you will lock the post immediately because we don't want any dissention in the ranks. Cheers, Well Done
Adapt or die....
EVE changes all the time. If you can't learn how to change and adapt, this game is not for you, simple as that.
There's many ways to earn isk in null that don't involve purely ratting in belts. Also, even though i am sort of a carebear in hisec, even i can see that ratting in a carrier truly is an affront to it's true purpose.... That's like complaining you can't do level 2 missions in a titan.
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
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Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
289
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Posted - 2015.03.05 11:12:25 -
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nossler wrote: I am sure you will lock the post immediately because we don't want any dissention in the ranks.
Dissention isn't the same as whining. |
Allant Doran
Patriot Security Services New Signature
76
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Posted - 2015.03.05 11:29:45 -
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This Fighter Assist thing is really grinding some people's gears isn't it?
Never mind the fact that Carriers can still USE ten fighters and be set up to have some intense Logistics. No, no. The PvE carrier is definitely dead.
I just think it's a shame that people cannot divorce what they love about a ship or mechanic from the actual utility OF those ships and mechanics. |
Serene Repose
2340
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Posted - 2015.03.05 12:49:00 -
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It stops clinging to the dinosaur or it gets the hose again.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji.
1923
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Posted - 2015.03.05 13:34:27 -
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Stealth "eve is dying" thread? |
Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
470
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Posted - 2015.03.05 13:47:27 -
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Mrs Gordon wrote:nossler wrote: PVE carriers are dead unless you are a member of the large blocks and everyone else in null will be spending their prime time not ratting, mining or exporing or building what everyone else needs, but sitting in standing fleets waiting for the inevitble entosis attack on a sov structure. Not only PVE carriers are deads... seems that all cap are dead since jump fatigue & jump range nerf. Who will take the risk to send caps far away, with no fast return possible to defend home ? Oh, I guess you will have to turn on your neighbors or allies or whatever affectionate name your leadership has for them. Of course you've never done this before. Anyway, seems like it's going to be working as intended.
edit - also ibtl
CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.
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Leannor
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2015.03.05 13:55:29 -
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Mrs Gordon wrote:nossler wrote: PVE carriers are dead unless you are a member of the large blocks and everyone else in null will be spending their prime time not ratting, mining or exporing or building what everyone else needs, but sitting in standing fleets waiting for the inevitble entosis attack on a sov structure. Not only PVE carriers are deads... seems that all cap are dead since jump fatigue & jump range nerf. Who will take the risk to send caps far away, with no fast return possible to defend home ?
maybe those able to organise themselves so that they have enough assets (carriers etc) at home to repel an attack that can reasonably expected while they're gone (to allow the returning forces to return as a backup) but still able to launch an assult on the enemy.
"Lykouleon wrote:
STOP
TOUCHING
ICONIC
SHIP
PARTS"
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RomeStar
BOVRIL bOREers Mining CO-OP Brave Collective
573
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Posted - 2015.03.05 13:58:22 -
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Just to confirm the OP is right. If you check contracts in Null the amount of thannys up for sale and how cheap they are going for is a prime example. My insurance on my thannys is almost out they weill be frauded. They killed the crow they are going to nerf the Ishtar into the ground and pretty soon they are going to give sov a paint job. You can paint a turd many times but in the end its always a turd.
Signatured removed, CCP Phantom
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Anton Menges Saddat
Minion Revolution SpaceMonkey's Alliance
93
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Posted - 2015.03.05 14:59:44 -
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Allant Doran wrote:This Fighter Assist thing is really grinding some people's gears isn't it?
Never mind the fact that Carriers can still USE ten fighters and be set up to have some intense Logistics. No, no. The PvE carrier is definitely dead.
I just think it's a shame that people cannot divorce what they love about a ship or mechanic from the actual utility OF those ships and mechanics. Have you ever tried locking a subcapital target using a carrier? It isn't exactly quick business. |
WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
6306
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Posted - 2015.03.05 15:04:12 -
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I... ummm... YOU... well... th-... ahem, d... n... but...
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Cat? I'm a kitty cat
and I dancedancedance
and I BURN YOUR EYES
Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3965
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Posted - 2015.03.05 16:29:58 -
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As there already is a thread on the same topic, this one gets a lock.
Thread locked.
The Rules: 17. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussion regarding a topic to a single thread.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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