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Kogh Ayon
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
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Posted - 2015.03.07 17:22:51 -
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i want to get some awnsers for players that are chasing 1 person al the way trough out new eden war dec every corp this person is in.
What happent is 1 person (lets call him Johan) made someone angry they desided to war dec his corp. Johan decided to fight back and killed a view of there BC and station camped them for a day. they got pissed of more and send marmite persued of happines and 2 other big merc corp's to his corp. Johan decided to leave every thing behind make a fresh start by closing the corp and open a new one and continue what he and his corp where doing He let a friend make a new corp and after a day he joined the brand new corp directly after that his corp got again wardect by the same guy's and tough okey suck lets keep going. the corp that had the troubles with Johan did not wardec him any more. so later that night they were waiting for there wardec timer to go green so they whould be able to bash a pos. 10 min before the war gone green 1 of the guy's corp members showed up in local Johan tought cool we are not in war so nothing ganne happen. Suddenly some Friend's or alt's the mad guy came in local they where members of a other big corp as Johan used eye's on the pos at all time he saw them warping on the pos withc whase offline. they used a bowhead and droped shuttles araund 200km off the pos then warped it to the pos mod its self and trowh out some cata's 2 pirate guy's from the big corp came down took the catas and suicide ganked the mods warped off to the shuttle's with there GCC they enter the shuttles waited for concorde to pop them and warped down to the pos to enter the cata's again they did this for a couple of times after every thing whase gone they left system with the loot . after that Johan started a convo with the guy in local from the corp that had troubles with him. he sad some sad words and then he sad it does not mather how manny corps you hop or where you go we will chase you down and keep doing it.
First of all i isnt the way the big corp handles with the bowhead is a exploit right? 2nd isnt chasing 1 person in special not punishable by ccp?
i whould love to get something from a gm but if there are people with awnsers feel free. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.03.07 18:06:32 -
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Kogh Ayon wrote:First of all i isnt the way the big corp handles with the bowhead is a exploit right? No
Kogh Ayon wrote:2nd isnt chasing 1 person in special not punishable by ccp? Maybe, probably not. File a petition.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Orlacc
832
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Posted - 2015.03.07 18:40:02 -
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Ha. Funny. They will get tired of it, just chill. Make an alt or something. The Bowhead question was answered. Hey take the time to check spelling and stuff okay? Makes you look dumb.
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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Kogh Ayon
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
170
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Posted - 2015.03.07 19:13:59 -
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thank you paranoid loyd for your sesponse but if you read this isnt that exectly what is happening? http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/exploit-notification-boomerang-avoiding-concord-in-high-security-space.-updated/?_ga=1.214094037.375595514.1425742015
@ Orlacc i know im not 100% clean english writher as long as you understand it right does it mather? People will find me dumb anny way |
PO3T
Private Parking Stratagem.
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Posted - 2015.03.07 19:32:20 -
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Punctuation man, its all about that grammar |
Faylee Freir
Defining Harassment Slaver's Union
60
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:01:00 -
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I fail to see how stalking and hunting a wartarget is punishable by CCP. Other than sitting in an NPC corp (still at risk of suicide ganks) there should be no mechanic that keeps me from "interacting" with you.
HTFU and learn quickly that eve is not your own personal world where you can operate in solitude. If I want you dead, I should be allowed to accomplish that by any means necessary (withing the rules and standards of CCP). Hire mercs of your own, fight back, play on an alt, and sitting in a station are all strategies you can employ against aggressors. You don't HAVE to be their next meal, so stop crying about it.
Again... HTFU. |
Paranoid Loyd
4061
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:35:47 -
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No, that was a different technique where ship loss could be avoided and has since been patched out of the game. As you specifically mentioned they are losing their ships so that technique is within the rules.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Kogh Ayon
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
170
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Posted - 2015.03.08 00:16:36 -
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Paranoid thnx for closer axplain on that part
and faylee freir the guy's that are stalking them are not in war with them any more so they cant shoot them anny more. plus they got killed by the corp of my friend before and never stand there man when my friend's corp mates where outside station to play with them because they already lose 2 of there BC's to them. And the stalking is only on 1 man from the corp and that makes him not able to play any more cause he cant do what he wants to do or they will undock and annoy my friend. |
Faylee Freir
Defining Harassment Slaver's Union
61
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Posted - 2015.03.08 01:03:51 -
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Kogh Ayon wrote:Paranoid thnx for closer axplain on that part
and faylee freir the guy's that are stalking them are not in war with them any more so they cant shoot them anny more. plus they got killed by the corp of my friend before and never stand there man when my friend's corp mates where outside station to play with them because they already lose 2 of there BC's to them. And the stalking is only on 1 man from the corp and that makes him not able to play any more cause he cant do what he wants to do or they will undock and annoy my friend. I don't understand |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2015.03.08 05:29:53 -
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Kogh Ayon wrote:Paranoid thnx for closer axplain on that part
and faylee freir the guy's that are stalking them are not in war with them any more so they cant shoot them anny more. plus they got killed by the corp of my friend before and never stand there man when my friend's corp mates where outside station to play with them because they already lose 2 of there BC's to them. And the stalking is only on 1 man from the corp and that makes him not able to play any more cause he cant do what he wants to do or they will undock and annoy my friend.
I don't get it. If they still have someone wardecced just bring in your friends as allies. Otherwise go to low or null for awhile.
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
2159
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Posted - 2015.03.08 15:34:13 -
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Came in expecting tears.
Left confused, but after several times trying to decipher the eye cancer style postings, I feel confident in saying htfu is somewhat still in order.
Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
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Erin Naskingar
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:16:14 -
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Kogh Ayon wrote:Paranoid thnx for closer axplain on that part
and faylee freir the guy's that are stalking them are not in war with them any more so they cant shoot them anny more.
So why does it matter if they are stalking him if they can't shoot him? |
Kogh Ayon
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
170
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:28:42 -
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Erin They use Pie friends or alts to su+»cide the pos mods and or steal them
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20272
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:34:42 -
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Im not sure what I just read.. but I think I may want a refund on the time spent doing it unless someone can convince me that it was really worthwhile.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Erin Naskingar
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:48:01 -
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OK...why the frig did your friend ( I think....) leave an offline PoS in orbit when at war? Why didn't they (you?) take the POS down before the war went live? And now that the POS is already blown up, who the hell cares if they are stalking him when they can't do anything to him since there's no war? |
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
205
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Posted - 2015.03.10 01:04:55 -
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Erin Naskingar wrote:OK...why the frig did your friend ( I think....) leave an offline PoS in orbit when at war? Why didn't they (you?) take the POS down before the war went live? And now that the POS is already blown up, who the hell cares if they are stalking him when they can't do anything to him since there's no war? I don't disagree with your logic, but if you re-read the war was not yet live.
@ the OP - Ignorance of mechanics is somewhat forgivable as they can be confusing, but crying for GM interference because of a wardec/suicide gank is ridiculous particularly when the one being decced decided corp hopping was his solution. What did he expect? That the aggressors would just stand down and say "Welp, this guy has outfoxed us, gg." |
Milan Nantucket
New Eden Misfits
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Posted - 2015.03.13 04:04:40 -
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Dun'Gal wrote:Erin Naskingar wrote:OK...why the frig did your friend ( I think....) leave an offline PoS in orbit when at war? Why didn't they (you?) take the POS down before the war went live? And now that the POS is already blown up, who the hell cares if they are stalking him when they can't do anything to him since there's no war? I don't disagree with your logic, but if you re-read the war was not yet live. @ the OP - Ignorance of mechanics is somewhat forgivable as they can be confusing, but crying for GM interference because of a wardec/suicide gank is ridiculous particularly when the one being decced decided corp hopping was his solution. What did he expect? That the aggressors would just stand down and say "Welp, this guy has outfoxed us, gg."
It hurt my eyes the first time... I thought torture was against a policy somewhere which it would be if I had to re-read the op and his replies. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5919
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Posted - 2015.03.13 10:58:36 -
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Kogh Ayon wrote:First of all i isnt the way the big corp handles with the bowhead is a exploit right? 2nd isnt chasing 1 person in special not punishable by ccp? i whould love to get something from a gm but if there are people with awnsers feel free.
Ummm... No, not an exploit... and "it isn't not punishable" is incorrect.
Try fewer double negatives, better punctuation and grammar, and organize your thoughts before you hit the post button.
P.S. Proofreading and editing is a thing now.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
278
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Posted - 2015.03.13 13:25:04 -
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OP's post gave me cancers.
Moderate strength is shown in violence, supreme strength is shown in levity.
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1120
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Posted - 2015.03.13 13:38:45 -
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...........the **** did I just read?
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
234
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Posted - 2015.03.13 14:05:50 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:I fail to see how stalking and hunting a wartarget is punishable by CCP. Other than sitting in an NPC corp (still at risk of suicide ganks) there should be no mechanic that keeps me from "interacting" with you.
HTFU and learn quickly that eve is not your own personal world where you can operate in solitude. If I want you dead, I should be allowed to accomplish that by any means necessary (withing the rules and standards of CCP). Hire mercs of your own, fight back, play on an alt, and sitting in a station are all strategies you can employ against aggressors. You don't HAVE to be their next meal, so stop crying about it.
Again... HTFU.
its the fact of constant war dec and chasing, if an effort is made to continually follow a target across the galaxy and war dec every corp he is in by the same person (or group), it is harassment.
and no to the shuttle thing, people have been banned for undocking and dropping an orca load of shuttles
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23252
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Posted - 2015.03.13 15:50:43 -
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Agondray wrote:and no to the shuttle thing, people have been banned for undocking and dropping an orca load of shuttles
You appear to have missed out the bit that this only happens when it is done to intentionally cause lag.
Dropping ships, on or off-grid, for the purpose of reshipping is a legitimate use of both the Orca and the Bowhead, and has been for some time.
The latest example being hyperdunking which in itself in an adaptation of a technique that has long been used for POS bashes.
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
987
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Posted - 2015.03.13 17:21:18 -
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This thread makes my eyes hurt.
Sabriz for CSMX!
Consider voting Tora as well.
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Aaaarrgg
The Conference Elite CODE.
13
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Posted - 2015.03.13 23:58:11 -
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once i had waded though the gibberish of the post a few times, this seems familiar
if you wanted to kill the undefended 2 POS labs in a 0.5 sec system , why didn't you just shoot them. they died easy , you watched it happen :)
chain ganking, (hyperdunking ) isn't an exploit :) as posted on the forums by CCP
im not someones alt I just look for targets , you just happened to be in my way :)
BTW have you replaced your (expensive) implants yet :) inquiring minds are interested
of course I could be completely wrong and this is about something else :)
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Wallace Mortimer
Koshaku Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2015.03.14 05:06:51 -
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Lesson 1 : Dont mess up with the wrong poeple.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Origin. Black Legion.
2034
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Posted - 2015.03.17 19:08:33 -
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OP...first, walk to your nearest church/temple/mosque/pagan-grove and thank the deity of your choice that a game like EvE exists in the first place, where the acts of a player can have real consequences with other players.
Secondly, consider. (Pay close attention to items #6 and 7)
F
Would you like to know more?
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Nalia White
Tencus
87
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:39:10 -
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OP only way to be sure is file a petition. If Johan is in a NPC corp and is trying to evade those guys and they are still following him arround to specificaly annoy him this would exactly be what CCP defined as harassment.
While I love this game for its cutthroat mechanics I think there realy should be some borders on an individual level and in my opinion CCP handled it nice so far with the few incidents we had (*cough* Erotica1 or whatever)
OP another tip is to move to low/npc-null for a while. The most "wardec-heroes" from highsec will hit invisible walls on low/null gates :P |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
858
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Posted - 2015.03.20 17:22:12 -
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Have your friend join the eternal war of Red Federation vs Blue Republic. We get war decced all the time with little impact. After a few weeks, he can drop and most likely will have been forgotten. |
Iain Cariaba
1167
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:28:32 -
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You know that little pain you get behind the eyes when you have to decipher threads like this? Today it's not a little pain after trying to read this thread.
OP, while I realize english my not be your first language, surely you know someone who speaks a reasonable level of english who you can filter these posts through. At the very least, google translate would be easier to read than what you're posting.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
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