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DeadDuck
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.09 09:11:04 -
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To good to be true... Let's wait and see, but if it happens |
Another Posting Alt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2015.03.09 09:32:12 -
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Myself and my other alts say +10 points for Grif^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H each for CCP Fozzie and CCP Seagull. |
Cadre Arareb
Lonetrek Blacksoul Federation Skeleton Crew.
0
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Posted - 2015.03.09 16:06:10 -
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So let me get this straight, you would screw over the modern null sec coalitions. Force them into small pockets or not even holding sov at all. Sell the supers and camp high sec with the thousands of people currently living in null. But at least low sec will be happy. Good Job CCP.
LONG LIVE THE AMARR!
God says we are better then you so just stop fighting.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6576
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Posted - 2015.03.09 16:21:21 -
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low sec, huh
Well I hear their incursions give revenant bpcs
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
831
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Posted - 2015.03.09 16:21:50 -
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Cadre Arareb wrote:So let me get this straight, you would screw over the modern null sec coalitions. Force them into small pockets or not even holding sov at all. Sell the supers and camp high sec with the thousands of people currently living in null. But at least low sec will be happy. Good Job CCP.
Are you afraid people will unsub and you'll be left with a... (GÇó_GÇó) ( GÇó_GÇó)>GîÉGûá-Gûá (GîÉGûá_Gûá)
Skeleton Crew?
YEEEEAAAAHHHH~ |
PhantomMajor
High Flyers The Kadeshi
28
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Posted - 2015.03.09 16:33:19 -
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my thoughts on capital class of ships is that CCP have realised there are way to many of them and so they have to curtail their activities. They wont remove them and reimburse people with skill points so they are slowly painting Capital ships into a corner and making them obsolete.
Titans are basically glorified bridging ships, Carriers with their up and coming fighter assist nerf renders them to the ratting roll as large capital fleets are being boxed out of the SOV warfare and dreads are still useful in the sense of POS bashing and the occasional localised hot drop. The dreads with the new module would still see active service as they have the ability to self-rep during this new form of SOV warfare which would leave them isolated during attacks on SOV structures.
With the potential rise of Elite-Dangerous offering a true sandbox experience i feel that the older players, myself included would move to a less controlled environment, rather than catering for the xbox bunnies. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1537
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Posted - 2015.03.09 16:47:38 -
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Quote:I'm going to consolidate several threads on Supers currently active in GD in one thread. As such, as there already is a thread on the same topic, this one gets a lock.
ISD choose to close the thread where people posted that are actually targeted by the nerf. Shamed he who thinks evil of it
TunDraGon is recruiting!
"Also, your boobs [:o] " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
507
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Posted - 2015.03.09 16:53:14 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:Quote:I'm going to consolidate several threads on Supers currently active in GD in one thread. As such, as there already is a thread on the same topic, this one gets a lock. ISD choose to close the thread where people posted that are actually targeted by the nerf. Shamed he who thinks evil of it
If you feel that strongly about the thread then petition to have it reopened. Make a strong enough case and it probably will be done.
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1538
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Posted - 2015.03.09 17:02:36 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:Quote:I'm going to consolidate several threads on Supers currently active in GD in one thread. As such, as there already is a thread on the same topic, this one gets a lock. ISD choose to close the thread where people posted that are actually targeted by the nerf. Shamed he who thinks evil of it If you feel that strongly about the thread then petition to have it reopened. Make a strong enough case and it probably will be done. Well first of your OP is way better than this one and actually raises some ideas....
TunDraGon is recruiting!
"Also, your boobs [:o] " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Alice Saki
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
125777
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Posted - 2015.03.09 17:14:28 -
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Don't Care I'm Useless :D
FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - All I want from Xmas is YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Soldarius
Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent
1172
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Posted - 2015.03.09 17:30:22 -
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Kuga wrote:Sounds like a Mickey Mouse role to me. I think CCP need to consider future roles of supers more carefully.
Delayed local in null sec, now there's a topic. While I'm not entirely against it, I can see a glaring issue - null sec allows force projection (hot dropping), while wormholes do not. This, coupled with the issue that wormholes are more profitable and don't require sov defence will make null sec a far less attractive proposition for living. The issue of force projection (including black ops - really, why would you do this - will another gameplay option be destroyed??) will need to be dealt with before a mechanic like delayed local in null sec will be successful.
People will say "have PvP'ers on hand" but we all know that doesn't work against blops strikes which usually annihilate the target before anyone can respond.
Sounds to me like Fozzie understands how bad supercapitals are in general. Bad as in bad concept. afaic, they could be reprocessed and the mineral balance handed out to the owner and the entire game would be better for it.
ofc, we all know that won't happen. So they will get a court jester's place in capital ship combat. "Look at me! I'm relevant!"
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Alice Saki
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
125787
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Posted - 2015.03.09 17:40:42 -
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Fozzie, 30bil and you can have my Super...
FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - All I want from Xmas is YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
1315
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Posted - 2015.03.09 17:53:29 -
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Who would pay 30 bill for a booster ship? Worst idea ever. Unless that ship can make me sammiches and bacon and do certain favors for me.
You know if you are going to nerf them like that........ Then why dont you make it so smaller ships can dock with them. you know a carrier can hold like 5-10 pilots in small ships? Make them moveable stations with guns!
Why Can't I have a picture signature.
Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
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True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
263
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Posted - 2015.03.09 19:04:32 -
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I'm one of those 'lurker' playtypes. my account has been active now for quite a few years and I keep training and training. I own an Orca, Rorqual, Obelisk, Anshar, thanatos and Moros...
I'd always been tempted, if to come back for anything, to grab myself a Nyx and fly around in what I considered to be pure space-sex, it's remained one of my favourite looking ships in the game since they were introduced.
I've dabbled in pretty much every 'career' in eve, hi-sec carebearness, low-sec livin' and also lived in pretty much every single null region there is at one point or another for various different alliances...
I hate the previous capital changes (I love the impact they had, the change in capital warfare was fantastic, but I think there's a handful of ways it could have been done much differently, maintaining the awesomeness of the ships whilst having the same end result).
I hate these changes anymore, if I was ever tempted to come back and continue in null again, the combination of 'don't bother getting a Nyx' and delayed local pretty much make it a moot point and I can't see myself returning to notable activity with both of those introduced. |
Sbrodor
Oscura Simmetria Yulai Federation
41
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Posted - 2015.03.09 19:20:30 -
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AGAIN bomber nerf? cancel this ship and cancel al AOE effect and do directly a N+1 wins vs N from dotlan!
we had useless void bomb damaging a lot normal bombs. 12 sec even the monkey can warpout focused bomb is unusable even for test on friendly capitals smartbomb barrier..
'cmon don't let the monkey wins, this is not EVE.
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d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
77
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Posted - 2015.03.10 00:28:21 -
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Who ever goes to Fanfest, be sure to raise hell |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
90
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Posted - 2015.03.10 03:56:55 -
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people are over reacting in this thread.
listen to the source/podcast, don't just asssume things and make a QQ thread like this, ffs. whinny kids....
Just Add Water
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d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
77
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Posted - 2015.03.10 04:15:32 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:people are over reacting in this thread. listen to the source/podcast, don't just asssume things and make a QQ thread like this, ffs. whinny kids....
Oh you mean like when they nerfed supers inmunity in 2010? Or when they nerfed the drake? Or maybe when they nerfed supercarrier drones? Don't forget about the jump range nerf... or the fighter assign nerf... and now this SOV 2.0/booster supers...
Yeah it's fine... CCP isn't going nerf anything else, or drastically change playstyle of a ship... |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
90
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Posted - 2015.03.10 04:29:29 -
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d0cTeR9 wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:people are over reacting in this thread. listen to the source/podcast, don't just asssume things and make a QQ thread like this, ffs. whinny kids.... Oh you mean like when they nerfed supers inmunity in 2010? Or when they nerfed the drake? Or maybe when they nerfed supercarrier drones? Don't forget about the jump range nerf... or the fighter assign nerf... and now this SOV 2.0/booster supers... Yeah it's fine... CCP isn't going nerf anything else, or drastically change playstyle of a ship...
changes doesn't automatically mean nerf dude and most of those changes you listed i consider boosts.
let's be honest none of these people (especially you) are gonna quit EvE because of this, what else would you do/play?
Just Add Water
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Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
90
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Posted - 2015.03.10 04:33:37 -
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He/she mentioned they would move to a force multiplier role basically. We honestly have no idea exactly what they have planned though so perhaps everyone should wait and see just how this whole thing pans out? |
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
1316
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Posted - 2015.03.10 05:30:07 -
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Chewytowel Haklar wrote:He/she mentioned they would move to a force multiplier role basically. We honestly have no idea exactly what they have planned though so perhaps everyone should wait and see just how this whole thing pans out?
Hi you must be new here. This is the EvE online forums, where we react now and rage as hard as possible even before the plans are fully layed out. Now stop making sense and rage.
Why Can't I have a picture signature.
Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4812
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Posted - 2015.03.10 06:04:02 -
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I thought the AFK cloaking comments would have got more attention...
If local is removed in null, AFK cloakers are going to have to alt-tab into client more often to chatter in local, and I look forward to all of the comments that get posted in local in ratting systems.
Imagine a N3 member sitting in a Goon ratting system, cloaked, and typing the lyrics of Call Me Maybe into chat over and over....
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
507
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Posted - 2015.03.10 08:16:21 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:d0cTeR9 wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:people are over reacting in this thread. listen to the source/podcast, don't just asssume things and make a QQ thread like this, ffs. whinny kids.... Oh you mean like when they nerfed supers inmunity in 2010? Or when they nerfed the drake? Or maybe when they nerfed supercarrier drones? Don't forget about the jump range nerf... or the fighter assign nerf... and now this SOV 2.0/booster supers... Yeah it's fine... CCP isn't going nerf anything else, or drastically change playstyle of a ship... changes doesn't automatically mean nerf dude and most of those changes you listed i consider boosts. let's be honest none of these people (especially you) are gonna quit EvE because of this, what else would you do/play?
If I had a super I would gladly volunteer to be the first one involved in a sov conflict. I'm really interested in seeing how they're going to be utilised post summer.
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
507
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Posted - 2015.03.10 08:19:18 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I thought the AFK cloaking comments would have got more attention...
If local is removed in null, AFK cloakers are going to have to alt-tab into client more often to chatter in local, and I look forward to all of the comments that get posted in local in ratting systems.
Imagine a N3 member sitting in a Goon ratting system, cloaked, and typing the lyrics of Call Me Maybe into chat over and over....
Well he wouldn't really be AFK at that point would he.
If anything he would just be unable to confirm precisely how many people are actually doing stuff and what kind of stuff they are doing.
More to the point if local gets delayed would that justify removing pilots-in-space/pilots-currently-docked from map statistics? Because if we're going to go one step towards removing free intel we might as well remove the other.
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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TinkerHell
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
147
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Posted - 2015.03.10 09:18:41 -
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I think the main problem is really that devs are not allowed to own supers as far as i am aware on their player accounts. So you have a bunch of people who dont fly, or own the ships in a real setting balancing them. Its like having my local hairdresser repairing my car.
It leads to uneducated decisions and biased opinions from the balancers, which is not what you want from a balancing team...Supers are a completely different aspect of the game, and i feel there is no one in a position that should be allowed to balance them from the dev team until they are allowed to own and fly them on their player accounts, There is only so much one can gain from looking at graphs. |
Tirion79
Nex Exercitus Northern Coalition.
1
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Posted - 2015.03.10 09:22:04 -
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So what do we have so far in this new game they call EVE-ONGRIND.
No winter megawar, gj onthe jump fatique. My first winter in years that I am actually bored to death. Supers.......well lets not mention those. GL pilots who have trained there ballz off and grinded like a mtf, gl taking it up the ass....dry Sov, going to be more a a pain. Titan's where killed a long time ago so aint gonna mention them.
Wonder how long it's going to take CCP before they actually start doing things to the game that will "improve" the game instead off twisting it's neck off even further. I feel bad for all the oldtimers in this game, after years and years off sticking to the program. We are all getting a major **** in our asses.
But maybe thats just me and i am beeing really negative.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1541
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Posted - 2015.03.10 10:10:10 -
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Chewytowel Haklar wrote:He/she mentioned they would move to a force multiplier role basically. We honestly have no idea exactly what they have planned though so perhaps everyone should wait and see just how this whole thing pans out?
It was explictly stated that the dmg role will be removed and noone, as mentioned before, flies a SC because it can give boosts. SC/capital warefare is like a compleatly different game compared to small gang and F1 monkey cruiser fleets. To commit such a huge amount of ISK against the odds requires skill and strategies for every eventuality.
TunDraGon is recruiting!
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CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Electrique Wizard
Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals
402
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Posted - 2015.03.10 10:33:04 -
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Nice, always wanted to fly a 150 bil damnation.
I am the Zodiac, I am the stars,
You are the sorceress, my priestess of Mars,
Queen of the night, swathed in satin black,
Your ivory flesh upon my torture rack.
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Tykonderoga
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
33
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Posted - 2015.03.10 18:03:02 -
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Dear CCP:
Thanks for making the "end game" in this game worthless. Something that takes years and years to train for and tens of billions of isk to obtain and fit is going to be made into a "niche" ship that is rarely taken out and has no offensive means to defend itself.
And don't tell me a 14x skill and tens of billions of isk is not end game, because it is. Stop seeing these ships as the problem, when it is YOUR LACK OF IMAGINATION THAT IS THE PROBLEM. I don't play the game to have an Ishtar as my ultimate goal; I play the game to have the sickest and most powerful ship to be in with the most to lose if I die. And if I die, I'll will lose tens of billions of isk in the hull alone and billions in implants.
SAVE THE SUPER AND BUFF THE TITAN. KEEP EVE EPIC. DON'T HAVE CRUISER HULLS BE THE END GAME. DOWN WITH MAKING EVE CAPTURE THE FLAG. SIC SEMPER TYRANIS = CCP FOZZIE. |
d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
79
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Posted - 2015.03.10 18:14:51 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:d0cTeR9 wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:people are over reacting in this thread. listen to the source/podcast, don't just asssume things and make a QQ thread like this, ffs. whinny kids.... Oh you mean like when they nerfed supers inmunity in 2010? Or when they nerfed the drake? Or maybe when they nerfed supercarrier drones? Don't forget about the jump range nerf... or the fighter assign nerf... and now this SOV 2.0/booster supers... Yeah it's fine... CCP isn't going nerf anything else, or drastically change playstyle of a ship... changes doesn't automatically mean nerf dude and most of those changes you listed i consider boosts. let's be honest none of these people (especially you) are gonna quit EvE because of this, what else would you do/play?
Those were nerf, not boosts... I can't even begin to imagine how it would boost them... I'v been around since 2004, and i'v seen how CCP rolls. I also don't remember saying i would quit... actually i have never said that, ever, on any of my toons. Sometimes i take a break, but i don't 'quit'.
Now, tell me something: If you spent +1 year on a few toons to train for supers, you worked hard in-game to get the isk to have them build and properly fitted... and then... they have a huge nerf/role change/etc (and this keeps happening over the course of years), and suddenly what you like to do in the game, isn't a possibility anymore (so you once again adapt). I would think you wouldn't like it, especially when it's getting worst and worst.
I still see clueless noobs saying how super's are so super and OP... Yeah ok... Clearly they haven't played this game long and never flown one. Also, when ever CCP say's "lots of those supers are too powerful" it makes me cringe because they treat us like idiots. Lots of ANYTHING is too powerfull... 100 BS... 100 interceptor... 100 ishtar... all of those are MUCH more powerful than a few of them... Strength in number... DDDDDDDDDDDDDDUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
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