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John McCreedy
Eve Defence Force The Kadeshi
177
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Posted - 2015.03.09 21:54:09 -
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davet517 wrote:[quote=John McCreedy] You get a notice if your sov's being attacked. The whole point of this is to live in the systems that you claim. Don't live there, don't claim it. If you do live there, you don't need to camp because of one cloaky neut. If the alarms go off, respond.
Lots of red-herrings flying around here, but, nobody wants to address the elephant in the room. It's renters, mostly. Renters whose "defense" is to safe up when neuts enter system. Not to mention, shall we say, "auto-renters" that are programmed to do so. Ever lead a roaming gang through the south only to encounter system after system with one nullified tengu that warps to a POS when you enter? Mr. Dave has. It's pretty sad.
Systems that are actually occupied and used by people who can fight will have no issue here. This PR blitz is, at least to a large degree, to try to protect absentee landlord income streams.
The issues people living in sov are concerned with have nothing to do with living there. Give us a reason to want to live somewhere (i.e. income) and we'll live there. Most are broadly in favour of the proposal, it's just the issue of balance. No game mechanic should tip the balance between Attacker and Defender in to eithers corner yet introducing a module used for hacking sov that can be fitted to a ship with the lowest sig radius and fastest speed, can warp through bubbles and target at comparatively long range tips that balance very firmly in favour of the attacker. That needs to change because the outcome of contesting Sov should come down to the players involved, not the game mechanics at work. |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
613
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Posted - 2015.03.09 21:54:19 -
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Acuma wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:Acuma wrote:Your objective is to spend 20-30 minutes in an active system to waste about 2-4 minutes of the defender and nothing else? Have fun with that.....I will enjoy the countless man hours wasted by these supposed "burn down all of nullsec trollceptors!"
no, the attacking interceptor gets to disengage within 2m of getting caught for the basic math challenged, 2 minutes is a lot shorter time than 20-30 minutes Uh.....math huh. So what happens when you sit there for 30 minutes with you link active only to have some noob frigate come in and halt your progress? You magically get that time back? 30m is enough to cap the average deklein point
everywhere else is much, much, much faster |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6587
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Posted - 2015.03.09 21:54:55 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:MASSADEATH wrote: hey, we are one of the highest paid "mercs" in eve currently...and all we have to do is kill CFC/goons..which was already our natural disposition.
and you are facing a group that cant be bought off..or weaseled in any other way like the goons usually do.
do you see anyone else living beside you? no
well yes, you can't be bought off because we did it already and found the trivial price wasn't worth it because you were useless and we were better off with you as enemies we used to have black fleegion living next to us as well but :laffo: i do admire your ability to deal with talking to gevlon for the free money though, most people haven't been able to resist laughing in his face long enough to keep collecting the money well, besides TEST. i guess you're like TEST. does this mean that one day, moa might stop because it isn't worth the effort for the payment...
if so , who will end our 0.0 dream? someone with even more isk... oh no
it will be NORTHERNASSOCIATES.
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
314
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Posted - 2015.03.09 21:55:05 -
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MASSADEATH wrote:who was it last week that lost not 1 but 2 carriers to a INTERCEPTOR FLEET !!!!! ... yep CFC/goons
Was it Tib? I hope it was Tib. He needs to be freed from his shackles of a dozen carrier ratters. |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
616
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Posted - 2015.03.09 21:55:24 -
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John McCreedy wrote:davet517 wrote: You get a notice if your sov's being attacked. The whole point of this is to live in the systems that you claim. Don't live there, don't claim it. If you do live there, you don't need to camp because of one cloaky neut. If the alarms go off, respond.
Lots of red-herrings flying around here, but, nobody wants to address the elephant in the room. It's renters, mostly. Renters whose "defense" is to safe up when neuts enter system. Not to mention, shall we say, "auto-renters" that are programmed to do so. Ever lead a roaming gang through the south only to encounter system after system with one nullified tengu that warps to a POS when you enter? Mr. Dave has. It's pretty sad.
Systems that are actually occupied and used by people who can fight will have no issue here. This PR blitz is, at least to a large degree, to try to protect absentee landlord income streams.
The issues people living in sov are concerned with have nothing to do with living there. Give us a reason to want to live somewhere (i.e. income) and we'll live there. Most are broadly in favour of the proposal, it's just the issue of balance. No game mechanic should tip the balance between Attacker and Defender in to eithers corner yet introducing a module used for hacking sov that can be fitted to a ship with the lowest sig radius and fastest speed, can warp through bubbles and target at comparatively long range tips that balance very firmly in favour of the attacker. That needs to change because the outcome of contesting Sov should come down to the players involved, not the game mechanics at work. never let it be said that i refuse to agree with a poster because of their alliance affiliations because i agree with this post quite a lot |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
75
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Posted - 2015.03.09 21:57:33 -
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Tycho VI wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Erasmus Grant wrote:Guess the one or two post I made suggesting that Battle-cruisers should be the smallest ship that can fit an E-Link is too vocal. Guess I will no longer give feedback anymore. The problem with that is you start limiting the meta dramatically, which is bad. It is obvious in this thread and the previous that simply being active in a system you have sov in is enough of a counter. Requiring BC or larger just means outer lying regions continue to be afk risk free empires due to camping a couple choke points. Which again, is bad. Should it really not be this way? Is it not realistic to have the farthest backwater regions have to be expanded out to by en entity? or to have a planned, extensive operation for a smaller organization to take the farthest of systems and hold it without a connection? It will be this way regardless of whether or not an intercepter can get there and take it in 5 mins of travel from high sec due to the distance to resupply the market there.Is it really so non sensible to have the meta support larger ships? This is how it is in real life. Iranian gunboats will not be able to take over a country, however a couple airfraft carriers with destroyer support.... I should be able to throw a few rocks(interceptor battalion) at your giant compound and the entire thing blow up like a nuke? We should keep to common sense. If I can't be bothered to protect it - YES!
Those Iranian gun boats are not going up against unmanned aircraft carriers and destroyers, but thanks for proving my point. |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
75
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Posted - 2015.03.09 21:58:52 -
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Arrendis wrote:MASSADEATH wrote:who was it last week that lost not 1 but 2 carriers to a INTERCEPTOR FLEET !!!!! ... yep CFC/goons
Was it Tib? I hope it was Tib. He needs to be freed from his shackles of a dozen carrier ratters. Cut one carrier off, two more appear! |
MASSADEATH
MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels
70
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Posted - 2015.03.09 21:58:57 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:Eli Apol wrote: Sure, you guys can spend other people's primetimes just trolling them - idk maybe people that actually want to take sov will turn up with fleets or put a cyno on their ceptors.
nobody will fight us, just ask massadeath who while vigoriously masturbating at the possibility of being relevant has let slip he will never actually take a fight because he'd lose he can't lose as moa has no sov He wouldn't be "prepping" his "sov laser" if he didn't intend to use it all over our "command nodes"
HEY HEY HEY... we have some VERY important POCOS that are VERY dear to us, that you constantly come and and destroy....
that hurts when you do that.....
and dont even talk about the POS's you blow up..... with all our moon goo operations.... ohh wait a sec.... we dont hold any moon goo... ok..but whatever ..we really like those POS's
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Tycho VI
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
8
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:00:06 -
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I mean....if the meta of the game shifts to the point of smaller ships like frigates and destroyers having more of an effect then a doctrine fleets of 100k ehp+ that are slow moving and expensive in a new sov system where systems can change hands so easily to small, fast groups of people:
Then you will find that no one will want to fly expensive things anymore. Not at the risk of them being blown up in battle, but at something far worse....The worry that you will have to go away from eve, go on vacation, or whatever, for 1 or 2 weeks...and coming back to all your stuff being deadzoned and gone forever, which could actually be a very common thing if the changes aren't done right...not just one ship like a carrier, but every single thing you own not just in that station, but that entire region.
I already plan on moving capital assets to lowsec when the sov changes roll out for a few months just to see how the map moves, and I am sure that I am not the only one thinking about doing this. Mostly because I have RL stuff I will be busy with when June rolls around...but yeah |
EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
673
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:00:14 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:davet517 wrote: I'll ask again, who, exactly, do you think they are going to do it to who cant return the favor in spades? .
the optimistic fools who think that the change means they can now have sov blocs will continue to exist as the only way to prevent getting blasted out of nullsec by a bored bloc in a week C'mon now, this is EVE. You know full well that most of the EVE player base is more interested in tearing bloody bits off of your Sov holdings than they ever will be holding Sov of their own. yeah maybe we abandon some shittier areas, but people seem to think we'll let them have those
they are in for a rude surprise because we'll have quite the bored supercarrier fleet |
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Acuma
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:00:58 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:Acuma wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:Acuma wrote:Your objective is to spend 20-30 minutes in an active system to waste about 2-4 minutes of the defender and nothing else? Have fun with that.....I will enjoy the countless man hours wasted by these supposed "burn down all of nullsec trollceptors!"
no, the attacking interceptor gets to disengage within 2m of getting caught for the basic math challenged, 2 minutes is a lot shorter time than 20-30 minutes Uh.....math huh. So what happens when you sit there for 30 minutes with you link active only to have some noob frigate come in and halt your progress? You magically get that time back? you placed the system into reinforced, because 29.5m is the maximum it takes for anything but the exceedingly rare mining system Really? And as has been discussed in other threads, that will probably be adjusted. Don't be dense. A heavily occupied system will probably end up near the top, and the defending force is going to know how much time they have......which is alot more than you. 15, 20, 30.....doesn't matter. Takes only 2 minutes of link activation to cancel you out. Congratulations.....you have chosen to waste hours accomplishing taking a few minutes of a defenders time......have fun with that.
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EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
673
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:01:01 -
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MASSADEATH wrote: and dont even talk about the POS's you blow up..... with all our moon goo operations.... ohh wait a sec.... we dont hold any moon goo...
you don't anymore, since we took it all away :laffo: |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp Vae. Victis.
6169
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:01:21 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:davet517 wrote: I'll ask again, who, exactly, do you think they are going to do it to who cant return the favor in spades? .
the optimistic fools who think that the change means they can now have sov blocs will continue to exist as the only way to prevent getting blasted out of nullsec by a bored bloc in a week C'mon now, this is EVE. You know full well that most of the EVE player base is more interested in tearing bloody bits off of your Sov holdings than they ever will be holding Sov of their own. yeah maybe we abandon some shittier areas, but people seem to think we'll let them have those they are in for a rude surprise because we'll have quite the bored supercarrier fleet I don't think anyone really cares about the crappier area's you're forced to abandon.
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EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
673
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:02:39 -
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Acuma wrote:Really? And as has been discussed in other threads, that will probably be adjusted. Don't be dense. A heavily occupied system will probably end up near the top, and the defending force is going to know how much time they have......which is alot more than you. 15, 20, 30.....doesn't matter. Takes only 2 minutes of link activation to cancel you out. Congratulations.....you have chosen to waste hours accomplishing taking a few minutes of a defenders time......have fun with that.
i've seen many people agree it should be adjusted, but none with a CCP tag
and two links being activated PAUSES, not resets, the attackers timer |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
616
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:03:13 -
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Acuma wrote:Really? And as has been discussed in other threads, that will probably be adjusted. Don't be dense. A heavily occupied system will probably end up near the top, and the defending force is going to know how much time they have......which is alot more than you. 15, 20, 30.....doesn't matter. Takes only 2 minutes of link activation to cancel you out. Congratulations.....you have chosen to waste hours accomplishing taking a few minutes of a defenders time......have fun with that.
disengage and move to next target
like seriously i need my clipboard back to post pictures of cats in jabber, you are killing me ehre |
Acuma
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:04:15 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:Acuma wrote:Really? And as has been discussed in other threads, that will probably be adjusted. Don't be dense. A heavily occupied system will probably end up near the top, and the defending force is going to know how much time they have......which is alot more than you. 15, 20, 30.....doesn't matter. Takes only 2 minutes of link activation to cancel you out. Congratulations.....you have chosen to waste hours accomplishing taking a few minutes of a defenders time......have fun with that.
i've seen many people agree it should be adjusted, but none with a CCP tag and two links being activated PAUSES, not resets, the attackers timer
Again.....don't be dense. They asked for feedback and they are going to make adjustments.....that's a given. I never said the link "resets" I said it cancels you out so you run away in your trollceptor to repeat the process all over again.
Time spent:
Defender: A few minutes Trollceptor: 10-35ish
Have fun bro..... |
God's Apples
Genos Occidere Warlords of the Deep
573
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:07:36 -
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I really don't see how inties are a problem. One info linked maulus/keres/celestis prevents at least 3 ships from locking anywhere past linked FN web huginn/rapier web range. Even if the inty or t3 dessy or whatever had 250km lock range, a single bonused info linked damp brings you down 66.6%, or 83.25km lock range. Moreover, because the entosis timer is reset when you lose lock, you just have to cycle damps between as many ships as you can lock to repeatedly restart their timers.
Here is an example fit:
[Celestis, Entosis Counter] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II True Sansha Energized Explosive Membrane Damage Control II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Auto Targeting System I Auto Targeting System I 125mm Gatling AutoCannon I, EMP S
Medium Inverted Signal Field Projector I Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
With 1 resebo and infolinks it can lock 12 targets at up to 242km. If you truly have control over the battlefield, then a handful of damp ships can fend off a horde of inties. Your lack of critical thinking skills are not justifiable cause to complain about a mechanic.
"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
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EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
678
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:07:41 -
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Acuma wrote:Again.....don't be dense. They asked for feedback and they are going to make adjustments.....that's a given. I never said the link "resets" I said it cancels you out so you run away in your trollceptor to repeat the process all over again. you can't say "that feedback isn't needed because they will adjust based on feedback and resolve that issue"
until they actually adjust then the feedback continues
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Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
622
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:08:17 -
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Acuma wrote: they are going to make adjustments
[citation needed] |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
622
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:09:23 -
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God's Apples wrote:I really don't see how inties are a problem. One info linked maulus/keres/celestis prevents at least 3 ships from locking anywhere past linked FN web huginn/rapier web range. Even if the inty or t3 dessy or whatever had 250km lock range, a single bonused info linked damp brings you down 66.6%, or 83.25km lock range. Moreover, because the entosis timer is reset when you lose lock, you just have to cycle damps between as many ships as you can lock to repeatedly restart their timers. Here is an example fit: [Celestis, Entosis Counter] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II True Sansha Energized Explosive Membrane Damage Control II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Auto Targeting System I Auto Targeting System I 125mm Gatling AutoCannon I, EMP S
Medium Inverted Signal Field Projector I Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
With 1 resebo and infolinks it can lock 12 targets at up to 242km. If you truly have control over the battlefield, then a handful of damp ships can fend off a horde of inties. Your lack of critical thinking skills are not justifiable cause to complain about a mechanic. disengage and move to next target
with a healthy lawl over using faction hardeners on a celestis
also that 1600mm plate is sure gonna help you catching up to an interceptor |
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Acuma
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:09:48 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:Acuma wrote:Again.....don't be dense. They asked for feedback and they are going to make adjustments.....that's a given. I never said the link "resets" I said it cancels you out so you run away in your trollceptor to repeat the process all over again. you can't say "that feedback isn't needed because they will adjust based on feedback and resolve that issue" until they actually adjust then the feedback continues And where exactly did I say that? I said they are requesting feedback.....there's no denying that. Whether the indexes stay as is or they adjust are irrelevant......the defender still knows the timers and will still waste a whole lot less time than you trying to RF in a trollceptor. Trolling the troll as it were......have fun spending 20 minutes for every 3-4 of a single defender LOL |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
622
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:11:53 -
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Acuma wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:Acuma wrote:Again.....don't be dense. They asked for feedback and they are going to make adjustments.....that's a given. I never said the link "resets" I said it cancels you out so you run away in your trollceptor to repeat the process all over again. you can't say "that feedback isn't needed because they will adjust based on feedback and resolve that issue" until they actually adjust then the feedback continues And where exactly did I say that? I said they are requesting feedback.....there's no denying that. Whether the indexes stay as is or they adjust are irrelevant......the defender still knows the timers and will still waste a whole lot less time than you trying to RF in a trollceptor. Trolling the troll as it were......have fun spending 20 minutes for every 3-4 of a single defender LOL please continue to harp on this point as if it was relevant
also extended ellipsis use is one of the key signs of desperation in a poster |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6589
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:13:32 -
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I'm in shock because massadeath confessed moa was in it as mercs.
you can't come at someone screaming you'll end their 0.0 dream and then be all "sorry baby, it was all about being the best paid job"
your hot throbbing intention to smash though our 0.0 dream... was it all a lie?!?!!!
I don't know how to take this, I need to take a rest. Maybe I will join a structure shooting fleet.
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Acuma
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:13:33 -
[924] - Quote
Promiscuous Female wrote:Acuma wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:Acuma wrote:Again.....don't be dense. They asked for feedback and they are going to make adjustments.....that's a given. I never said the link "resets" I said it cancels you out so you run away in your trollceptor to repeat the process all over again. you can't say "that feedback isn't needed because they will adjust based on feedback and resolve that issue" until they actually adjust then the feedback continues And where exactly did I say that? I said they are requesting feedback.....there's no denying that. Whether the indexes stay as is or they adjust are irrelevant......the defender still knows the timers and will still waste a whole lot less time than you trying to RF in a trollceptor. Trolling the troll as it were......have fun spending 20 minutes for every 3-4 of a single defender LOL please continue to harp on this point as if it was relevant also extended ellipsis use is one of the key signs of desperation in a poster
As are personal attacks. Something I noticed alot of GoOniEs have no problem with. I understand how you would think it's unreasonable to assume since they ask for feedback on the entosis they won't ask for feedback on the other mechanics.........oh wait, it's not. LOL
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6589
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:15:26 -
[925] - Quote
Acuma wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:Acuma wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:Acuma wrote:Again.....don't be dense. They asked for feedback and they are going to make adjustments.....that's a given. I never said the link "resets" I said it cancels you out so you run away in your trollceptor to repeat the process all over again. you can't say "that feedback isn't needed because they will adjust based on feedback and resolve that issue" until they actually adjust then the feedback continues And where exactly did I say that? I said they are requesting feedback.....there's no denying that. Whether the indexes stay as is or they adjust are irrelevant......the defender still knows the timers and will still waste a whole lot less time than you trying to RF in a trollceptor. Trolling the troll as it were......have fun spending 20 minutes for every 3-4 of a single defender LOL please continue to harp on this point as if it was relevant also extended ellipsis use is one of the key signs of desperation in a poster As are personal attacks. Something I noticed alot of GoOniEs have no problem with. I understand how you would think it's unreasonable to assume since they ask for feedback on the entosis they won't ask for feedback on the other mechanics.........oh wait, it's not. LOL We're the bad guys, it's to be expected that people will attack our persons, as... our persons are bad, after all.
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Veskrashen
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
758
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:15:52 -
[926] - Quote
Promiscuous Female wrote:Veskrashen wrote: Otherwise known as "your own unsubstantiated opinion", yes.
interceptors have <=2s align, 120km lock range, superlative speed and signature radius at speed these are facts, sorry to say Sure. They are, in fact, objective facts - assuming a proper fit, of course.
That they are "imbalanced" is, in fact, your opinion based on your own value judgement.
Since the only significant advantage they have over cloaky nullfiied T3s is their <=2sec align time, one could reasonably conclude that the only reason you consider them "imbalanced" is because you can't bubble camp them out of your precious Fortress Deklein, and will have to Benny Hill around chasing them like everyone else.
I don't really think that's "imbalanced". More like "working as intended".
We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."
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Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
623
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:16:38 -
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Acuma wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:Acuma wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:Acuma wrote:Again.....don't be dense. They asked for feedback and they are going to make adjustments.....that's a given. I never said the link "resets" I said it cancels you out so you run away in your trollceptor to repeat the process all over again. you can't say "that feedback isn't needed because they will adjust based on feedback and resolve that issue" until they actually adjust then the feedback continues And where exactly did I say that? I said they are requesting feedback.....there's no denying that. Whether the indexes stay as is or they adjust are irrelevant......the defender still knows the timers and will still waste a whole lot less time than you trying to RF in a trollceptor. Trolling the troll as it were......have fun spending 20 minutes for every 3-4 of a single defender LOL please continue to harp on this point as if it was relevant also extended ellipsis use is one of the key signs of desperation in a poster As are personal attacks. Something I noticed alot of GoOniEs have no problem with. I understand how you would think it's unreasonable to assume since they ask for feedback on the entosis they won't ask for feedback on the other mechanics.........oh wait, it's not. LOL If you repeat a lie often enough......it doesn't make it true. It's relevant to me and many others. I would love for you goonies to waste countless hours accomplishing nothing but wasting a defenders few minutes :) a personal attack requires an attack on a person, not his posts
unless you identify as an anthropomorphic forums post in which case consider my biology privilege thoroughly checked |
M1k3y Koontz
Aether Ventures Surely You're Joking
733
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:17:24 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:M1k3y Koontz wrote:https://i.imgur.com/dZoUBJK.jpg 45 DPS at 124km, your interceptor is dead in under a minute (55.5 seconds, yes I did the math) It's also a fifth the cost. Your move. please do not post fits that only kill the interceptor inside of a very short, narrow range where the interceptor would not be in any even remotely plausible pvp scenario basically only post RLML fits, and even then i hope you have 200km+ range "look at the graph it has a point this is where I can guarantee a ship to be at all times"
Reload with Iron and it'll deal 90 DPS from 20km to 100. That fit will kill interceptors, any range a Rapier can't web at.
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.
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Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
623
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:17:32 -
[929] - Quote
Veskrashen wrote: Since the only significant advantage they have over cloaky nullfiied T3s is their <=2sec align time
this just in signature radius and speed are not significant or advantages |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
4241
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:18:41 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:God's Apples wrote:I really don't see how inties are a problem. One info linked maulus/keres/celestis prevents at least 3 ships from locking anywhere past linked FN web huginn/rapier web range. Even if the inty or t3 dessy or whatever had 250km lock range, a single bonused info linked damp brings you down 66.6%, or 83.25km lock range. Moreover, because the entosis timer is reset when you lose lock, you just have to cycle damps between as many ships as you can lock to repeatedly restart their timers. Here is an example fit: [Celestis, Entosis Counter] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II True Sansha Energized Explosive Membrane Damage Control II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Auto Targeting System I Auto Targeting System I 125mm Gatling AutoCannon I, EMP S
Medium Inverted Signal Field Projector I Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
With 1 resebo and infolinks it can lock 12 targets at up to 242km. If you truly have control over the battlefield, then a handful of damp ships can fend off a horde of inties. Your lack of critical thinking skills are not justifiable cause to complain about a mechanic. disengage and move to next target with a healthy lawl over using faction hardeners on a celestis also that 1600mm plate is sure gonna help you catching up to an interceptor
So what, the locals resecure the target in half the time it took you to make progress on it, then move to your new target and save that one too.
The faction hardener is there for it's reduced cpu, and isn't very expensive.
And the celestis isn't there to catch the interceptor, only to neutralize it. You don't have to destroy an opponent to inhibit them.
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