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Traejun DiSanctis
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:13:20 -
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Null ratting is VERY profitable, though there are some factors to consider:
1. The security level of the system in which you're ratting. Specifically, the lower the security, the higher the likelihood of high-bounty ships and faction/hauler/officer spawns. This will have a significant impact on ISK/hour calculations. 2. Safety of the system in which you're ratting. Dead end systems deep in sov space tend to out of the way enough that reds and hostile neuts are unlikely to being putzing around. The more often the system gets spiked, the more often you'll find yourself warping to safe or docking up - which means you're not killing rats and, therefore, not making ISK. This factor is of moderate to marginal significance. 3. What rats are you killing. The pirate faction of the rats generally has an impact on the upper ends of the bounty scale for the ships you're popping. Certain factions are just worth more. While the difference will generally be no more than a 10-15% variance - over the course of a week's worth of hours of ratting, that can amount of 100's of millions of ISK. This significance of this metric will vary based on how much time you spend ratting. |
Aslon Seridith
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
207
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:23:31 -
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ISK problems are so 2004
pïí it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Wanted #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | FC of BurnHuola'2014
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LT NeoxsiT
Black Serpent Technologies Black Legion.
21
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Posted - 2015.04.22 13:07:29 -
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i am ratting with black ops and its quite proffitable https://zkillboard.com/kill/46037242/ |
Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
589
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Posted - 2015.04.22 17:35:42 -
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Or you could join FW and not only get PVP, but make some isk by capturing plexes or doing FW missions. FW LP stores are da bomb. |
Aladar Dangerface
Zebra Corp The Bastion
154
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Posted - 2015.04.27 13:03:41 -
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Go do exploration mate, missons and mining are soul destroyingly boring.
Look for low class wormholes (Classes 1-3) from high sec and scan down the pirate data/relic sites (pirates site are ones that start with Blood Raider or Sansha or Guristas) in these wormholes and hack them.
It can make you decent isk and it lets you see lots of different parts of New Eden.
Start of with a cheap T1 frig with a T1 cloak and once your skill and isk increase get a T2 covops frig or astero and covops cloak.
You will die at some point to the locals but hopefully your wallet with be fat before you do.
If you need more advice on this shoot me a mail or pm.
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I'm already following you.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
553
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Posted - 2015.05.03 02:32:50 -
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Personally I just make ISK from my PvP
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
906
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Posted - 2015.05.03 08:43:23 -
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Hiro Kaichi wrote:Hi, i'm pretty new to the game almost a month in and I was wondering how profitable is it? Right now i'm piloting a Shield Tank Gnosis and I have been able to go there and kill some NPCs but yeah. I need some tips on what to do and such and if the Gnosis is the right ship to use, oh and i'm sorry if this it's in the wrong place but its my first time on the forums
-Thanks :D
First of all a month in only and you are heading to null to try your luck there, impressive stuff for someone as new as that, I then had a look at your killboard and I see someone who is adventurous not afraid to take a risk and you already have sorted out how to fit for the job you are trying to do, but please do not dual tank. The issue is that you are now operating in areas where people shoot you for green on their killboard.
The real ISK is in anomalies, and to get to maximum efficiency requires a Carrier, I note that you are using a Vexor, keep at that, however there is an issue with them that you have to scoop your drones, which gives you a point of vulnerability.
Belt ratting is doable if a bit poor, when I did this in Stain for example when you could use a drake for it I got to the heady heights of 15m an hour taking into account faction drops, and salvage, but due to the nerfing of refining loot its hardly worth doing. The last time I did this I found the best ship to belt rat was a Thrasher, it does about 330 DPS with decent skills, can speed tank the BS and was cheap. You need about 220 DPS plus to take down the best BS rats by the way in belts.
That being said there are better ways to make ISK, but it is fun to do because there is always someone trying to kill you, so go cheap and expect to lose a lot of ships, but you will learn a lot. I used to PvP fit a Thrasher but I gimped the fit slightly to be able to fit a cloak, it annoys the hell out of player killers, just rat when no one is in system, if someone comes in cloak up and wait for a while, a lot of people have the attention span of a gnat and will move on, but then again you will get the AFK cloaky camper type, so with them just move system.
This can be fun just to do it, but its not profitable at all in the long term.
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afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1150
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Posted - 2015.05.04 19:42:36 -
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Aladar Dangerface wrote:Go do exploration mate, missons and mining are soul destroyingly boring.
Look for low class wormholes (Classes 1-3) from high sec and scan down the pirate data/relic sites (pirates site are ones that start with Blood Raider or Sansha or Guristas) in these wormholes and hack them.
It can make you decent isk and it lets you see lots of different parts of New Eden.
Start of with a cheap T1 frig with a T1 cloak and once your skill and isk increase get a T2 covops frig or astero and covops cloak.
You will die at some point to the locals but hopefully your wallet with be fat before you do.
If you need more advice on this shoot me a mail or pm.
This guy nailed it for advice for a newbro. |
Traejun DiSanctis
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.11 06:35:31 -
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I applaud anyone that wants to try their hand at null so quickly. In null, you rate in static sites. If the alliance your chosen corp is a part of is worth its salt, there will likely be 1 or more systems with high military rating. The sites can generate upwards of 80M ISK/hour, and often times more than that. |
Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
131
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Posted - 2015.05.13 15:10:29 -
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Kines Pavelovna wrote:Carrier anom ratting is apx 120mil an hour. This is just conjecture on my part from the info I've dug up scouting null farming corps; i.e. standard buyer beware boilerplate baloney.
The guy is a month old. There's absolutely no use in telling him to sit in a carrrier or use jumpclones when he can't even pilot a Battlecruiser properly or has the faction standing to be offered Lvl 4 missions. He has to get started. |
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Atomic Virulent
Dark Matter Industrial
125
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Posted - 2015.05.14 00:00:08 -
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~100M per hour in bounties.
+ ~ 500M-1B every few hours if you are using an ESS
+ ~ 50m per hour in standard loot (much more if you get an officer mod)
If you are a hardcore ratter you could probably PLEX your account twice over in a week with little effort. |
StupidMonkeyBeSpankinIt
Walking On Marshmallows
5
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:01:16 -
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I make a decent bit of isk ratting in nullsec, mate. I can now run a sanctum solo in about 15 minutes including clean up time... using mtu and a noctis with 6 salvagers. Im just dual boxing. if I tripple box i can run them in about ten minutes, but cant clean up till after the mtu catches up. :)
And Im making decent isk, so lets define what that is for me atm... about 100 mil an hour is okay. anything above that is pretty rad and has my attention. Soon it will be no longer this low as Im taking it up a notch into wh space once again. Actually, it was in wh space I learned the tactics and strategies Im using in null sec. lol. :)
all you need is a carrier, and a battleship or two if you can... :) with a set of nine fighters and two battleships you can take the sites pretty quickly. that is my only concern. you can even drop a pair of dreads to quickly kill the battleships if you have that kinds of iskies and skills or alts and or players/friends to help you. just bring a tripple webbing loki or rapier for the dreads.
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Traejun DiSanctis
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
139
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Posted - 2015.05.27 06:39:52 -
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StupidMonkeyBeSpankinIt wrote:I make a decent bit of isk ratting in nullsec, mate. I can now run a sanctum solo in about 15 minutes including clean up time... using mtu and a noctis with 6 salvagers. Im just dual boxing. if I tripple box i can run them in about ten minutes, but cant clean up till after the mtu catches up. :)
And Im making decent isk, so lets define what that is for me atm... about 100 mil an hour is okay. anything above that is pretty rad and has my attention. Soon it will be no longer this low as Im taking it up a notch into wh space once again. Actually, it was in wh space I learned the tactics and strategies Im using in null sec. lol. :)
all you need is a carrier, and a battleship or two if you can... :) with a set of nine fighters and two battleships you can take the sites pretty quickly. that is my only concern. you can even drop a pair of dreads to quickly kill the battleships if you have that kinds of iskies and skills or alts and or players/friends to help you. just bring a tripple webbing loki or rapier for the dreads.
Dude... if you're dropping dreads into some random Sanctum, you don't need to be ratting at all. There is nothing compelling about ratting. It's not exciting or challenging. It's the means to an end... that end being ISK. Besides, ratting is not even the most efficient way of generating ISK in null. Thus, once again, if you're at the point where you're rolling a subcap, but you're amazingly still trying to grind ISK... ratting is not the way to do it. |
CHAD Stetille
The Copernicus Institute
3
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Posted - 2015.06.01 04:40:10 -
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I've read some really good advice here and some really pointless advice also. The original question was posted by a new player so offering answers that even use the word carrier are simply pointless.
Now, the Gnosis has bonuses to scan probes and a good basic Omni tank. It gets bonuses to every type weapon system. Fit it for exploration, carry a Mobil depot with a few extra modules and find the first wormhole you can and away you go. You can make a good basic income running all the sites and will most likely get a little PvP experience also.
Other than that, you can grind missions, but even with lvl 4's the income is not great unless you take the time to salvage and sell off the dropped loot. You could probably do better fitting your retriever for ice mining and dodging the CODE pukes or ninja gas mining in wormholes. |
Traejun DiSanctis
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
146
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Posted - 2015.06.01 06:42:22 -
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CHAD Stetille wrote:I've read some really good advice here and some really pointless advice also. The original question was posted by a new player so offering answers that even use the word carrier are simply pointless.
Now, the Gnosis has bonuses to scan probes and a good basic Omni tank. It gets bonuses to every type weapon system. Fit it for exploration, carry a Mobil depot with a few extra modules and find the first wormhole you can and away you go. You can make a good basic income running all the sites and will most likely get a little PvP experience also.
Other than that, you can grind missions, but even with lvl 4's the income is not great unless you take the time to salvage and sell off the dropped loot. You could probably do better fitting your retriever for ice mining and dodging the CODE pukes or ninja gas mining in wormholes.
Given that this thread is about ratting in null, not sure why we're discussing WH's and missions. |
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