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Morathi II
Rebels of Quebec
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Posted - 2015.03.11 05:04:26 -
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Hi Im kinda brand new to eve ( play since 5 weeks ) I did tutorial and such the first week with the help of a friends and i liked the beginning Im an old player of dust514, i played on a daily basis for 2 years and a half, the game is dieing but i really enjoyed the lore of it and decided to jump on EVE. After the first week i decided to start my corp. After 5 days i collected 80 members in caldari space, since im intended to have a high caldari standing and try to mining group and PVE mission in group to maintain a cynergy in between members. 80% of my corp was new and me and some of my few veteran were there to help them the best of we can. About the half after 2 weeks decided to subscribe approximative numbers. We removed thosewho didnt , disliked the game or stopped playing few times after the begining. Number wasnt going more than 80 but we haved about 15-20 members active at evening and over 25 on weekend with more subscriber over the new who replaced the other we created channel for miners, set location for them in low and high sec give suggestion in fitting for combat guys while encouraging them to upgrade their standing, linked video for explorer since i think this part is more visual. Every things was going well but we both lnow this isnt eve lol. A spy entered my corporation since we accepted nearby anyone, we just kicked those who inslted other. A corp leader came to me and asked to me that my corp will know work for him or we will be at war So in other word being kinda their slave. Sorry to tell but no simply no and it was categoric for my member as well So we were put at war, noticed we have a delay, so the leader of the ennemy corp started conversation with my best fighter and experienced player. Im not idiot i know its a spy that can lnow that so i sat on my chair and read my corp channel All my member are on my watch list as well for corp leader i know like the guys who declared war onus one of my member who never talk understood me wrong and understood that we haved a spy on the ennemy corp ( im french canadian so i cn make writing mistake ) he just said We have a spy? he never talked except one time which he asked if we haved team speak. so i suspected him , he logged off ... and the corp leader at war popped online, so i checked their corp history of both... BINGO! in less than one hour of research i founded my spy. This was the introduction lol the part that i think its ok
This was the part which **** me off Has you may know this guy have PI the corp leader was an alt which afk sp in combat since atleast 6 month like is member which where certainly alt too with the insult i received from them He started to said to all member he added with the spy as contact to join them spamming lots of msg of hate if they dont fallow him and such So my members wanted to try to defend their honors, i knowed we will gonna be wreck but you know its a part of the experience losing so i agreed and of course we get wreck lol. The leader at war started bacl to invited my member in his corp saying we were idiot and weak to didnt accepted to be a corp who work for him to leave my corp and such hatethings like that... He even coming in our channel for pve and mining to try to convert my members, sending even more mail to ppl who get kill in fight against and who were in channel as mentionned He asked me to resign and work for him in is alliance... which we will be kind of slave in a video game... seriously the sad part is i cant do nothing and my member to except being victim of harrassment in gme, will be easy to create an other character but we paid for this one hehehe and this guy in this game sadly can be on us for ever in in tht system. Poor newberries you will say, Sad for us that nothing is called really in game to mention that about corp or so. Harrassment is apparently tolered in this game, so honestly whats the point to play for new and casual player when we cannot play in corp or growing fast since getting ganked and harrassed until we are obliged to bring our character to slavery to those alt of player who play for 5+ years.... Dust died for a reason... Ypu will say to me AAHHH this is EVE EVE never get competition, in few they will have getting harrassed without having option while pay to play... seriously My tough having a good day o/ |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
7641
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Posted - 2015.03.11 05:46:09 -
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tldr for those who don't want to wade through broken english and bad formatting:
- OP comes from DUST 514 to EVE.
- OP creates a corp composed mostly of other newbies
- OP focuses the corp on mining (and PvE?) and sets up a bunch of channels to facilitate this
- OP blindly accepts anyone into the corp... including people he shouldn't
- one of the people the OP accepted is a spy alt for a PvP corporation
- PvP corporation blackmails the OP's corp; "work for us or die"
- OP's corporation is war decced
- OP tries to fight out of stubborn pride
- PvP corp uses "dirty tactics" and starts recruiting members from the OP's corporation
- PvP corp tells OP to disband and join him, OP refuses out of stubborn pride
Now the OP is whining about how he can't "play the way he wants to play" without being "harassed."
Morathi II...
Your first mistake was making a corporation composed of newbies. Your second mistake was that you made a corporation without any ability to defend itself. Your third mistake was not listening to the PvPers that beat you. Working for someone else is not "slavery" if both of you are getting a good deal.***
EVE is based on conflict between players. You can do what you want, but so can everyone else... even if they interfere with you. This is not harassment. This is normal gameplay. Only the "strong" survive.
The reason for this is that everyone in the game affects someone else... miners affect builders... builders affect PvPers... PvPers can affect miners and builders.
***You COULD have made a deal with the PvPers. Supply the PvPers with materials, keep enough materials to make some money for yourself, and have the PvPers provide protection for you (if another PvP group attacked you).
The SP System
How did you start?
IFW
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Sophie Mahler
Hedion University Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2015.03.11 07:07:37 -
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I kinda agree with Shah, I know very little about the game tho, but it sounds like some sort of "harcore roleplaying" maybe a "way" for the pvp corp to "invite" you in. Don't take things too seriously, it's a game, I would have talked with the pvp corp, made some sort of deal, and make my own corp grow in the process. What you qualify as "slavery", maybe it was more like "opportunity".
or not
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gfldex
723
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Posted - 2015.03.11 07:23:22 -
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Morathi II wrote:The leader at war started bacl to invited my member in his corp
Do I understand you right that your enemy provided you with the opportunity to pick off his NPCing members one by one without CONCORD getting involved?
Morathi II wrote:So my members wanted to try to defend their honors
Ahh, there we go. Ego got in the way of brains. Mate, listen, honor wont buy you ships nor will it win you any war. If you want success you need to play at least as dirty as you opponent.
If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
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Cherri Minoa
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
45
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Posted - 2015.03.11 08:29:45 -
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EVE is a role playing game. If you want to be a pilot who never budges and never backs down - either from high principles or sheer bloody mindedness - that's your choice, and good luck with it. It's just that it's gonna be a damn sight harder than playing it the way most of us do, as cynical opportunists with the integrity and moral fibre of a bath sponge.
The motto for EVE has always been: do whatever you want, but take the consequences.
"If I had been censured every time I have run my ship, or fleets under my command, into great danger, I should have long ago been out of the Service" - Horatio Nelson
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Chal0ner
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
166
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Posted - 2015.03.11 12:12:35 -
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Cherri Minoa wrote:EVE is a role playing game. If you want to be a pilot who never budges and never backs down - either from high principles or sheer bloody mindedness - that's your choice, and good luck with it. It's just that it's gonna be a damn sight harder than playing it the way most of us do, as cynical opportunists with the integrity and moral fibre of a bath sponge.
I think the thing you are thinking of is called Eve politics
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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1287
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Posted - 2015.03.11 12:21:25 -
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Quote:I never really play FPS games and am really bad at them, but decided to try one anyway. I created my own clan full of newbies because I'm a natural leader so I really don't have to be good at FPS to lead a clan in an FPS game. We joined some clan server and had a match against that clan which we lost completely because it seems they're really good at this, so we fought some more to defend our honour. We died every time.
Is that me or is that just unfair, we keep going back to their server and they keep beating us. They offered to take us in to teach us how to play but our clan is awesome and I'm not leaving it. These guys are just arseholes for killing us in this FPS game. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9032
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Posted - 2015.03.11 13:12:40 -
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ok, ignoring the dust part (lol)
This seems normal, as a CEO of an activity recruiting corporation, you have a responsibility for the enjoyment of your members. you also have the responsibility of defending your members, or enabling and facilitating them to do so themselves.
As a new player yourself you had no ability to do any of those things and in eve if you're not willing to defend something, someone who can might well take it from you and that's exactly what happened Here.
The reason you here throwing the word "harassment" around is your own inexperience with the way things are here. it could have been worse but the newguys you picked up are in a better place now and you have the opportunity to go and join an established player corporation and learn how to eve.
no offense ment by any of that but it's just how it is,
Join a player Corp
Learn how to eve
Then start your own
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5962
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Posted - 2015.03.11 13:43:00 -
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Wow.
The longest whine in 2015 so far.
OP, part of running a corp is running it properly.
You failed in that (by the way you set up the corp and how you recruited members). You paid the price (extortion, war and member poaching - all 3 perfectly legal). The biggest issue, you are new. You hardly know the game, so Im not surprised that the corp ended this way. Clear case of the blind leading more blind people, across a busy interstate...
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
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Frank Millar
The Scope Gallente Federation
2280
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Posted - 2015.03.11 13:45:53 -
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Sums it up nicely. |
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Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
979
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:03:19 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:tldr for those who don't want to wade through broken english and bad formatting Bless you.
OP, sometimes what's best for your corp isn't what you have planned out. Try to keep an open mind, and do what you need to do to survive/prosper.
Adventures
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Titan's Lament
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Alexei Stryker
Steiners Erben
65
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:03:57 -
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Morathi II wrote:Hi Im kinda brand new to eve ( play since 5 weeks ) I did tutorial and such the first week with the help of a friends and i liked the beginning Im an old player of dust514, i played on a daily basis for 2 years and a half, the game is dieing but i really enjoyed the lore of it and decided to jump on EVE. After the first week i decided to start my corp. After 5 days i collected 80 members in caldari space, since im intended to have a high caldari standing and try to mining group and PVE mission in group to maintain a cynergy in between members. 80% of my corp was new and me and some of my few veteran were there to help them the best of we can. About the half after 2 weeks decided to subscribe approximative numbers. We removed thosewho didnt , disliked the game or stopped playing few times after the begining. Number wasnt going more than 80 but we haved about 15-20 members active at evening and over 25 on weekend with more subscriber over the new who replaced the other we created channel for miners, set location for them in low and high sec give suggestion in fitting for combat guys while encouraging them to upgrade their standing, linked video for explorer since i think this part is more visual. Every things was going well but we both lnow this isnt eve lol. A spy entered my corporation since we accepted nearby anyone, we just kicked those who inslted other. A corp leader came to me and asked to me that my corp will know work for him or we will be at war So in other word being kinda their slave. Sorry to tell but no simply no and it was categoric for my member as well So we were put at war, noticed we have a delay, so the leader of the ennemy corp started conversation with my best fighter and experienced player. Im not idiot i know its a spy that can lnow that so i sat on my chair and read my corp channel All my member are on my watch list as well for corp leader i know like the guys who declared war onus one of my member who never talk understood me wrong and understood that we haved a spy on the ennemy corp ( im french canadian so i cn make writing mistake ) he just said We have a spy? he never talked except one time which he asked if we haved team speak. so i suspected him , he logged off ... and the corp leader at war popped online, so i checked their corp history of both... BINGO! in less than one hour of research i founded my spy. This was the introduction lol the part that i think its ok
This was the part which **** me off Has you may know this guy have PI the corp leader was an alt which afk sp in combat since atleast 6 month like is member which where certainly alt too with the insult i received from them He started to said to all member he added with the spy as contact to join them spamming lots of msg of hate if they dont fallow him and such So my members wanted to try to defend their honors, i knowed we will gonna be wreck but you know its a part of the experience losing so i agreed and of course we get wreck lol. The leader at war started bacl to invited my member in his corp saying we were idiot and weak to didnt accepted to be a corp who work for him to leave my corp and such hatethings like that... He even coming in our channel for pve and mining to try to convert my members, sending even more mail to ppl who get kill in fight against and who were in channel as mentionned He asked me to resign and work for him in is alliance... which we will be kind of slave in a video game... seriously the sad part is i cant do nothing and my member to except being victim of harrassment in gme, will be easy to create an other character but we paid for this one hehehe and this guy in this game sadly can be on us for ever in in tht system. Poor newberries you will say, Sad for us that nothing is called really in game to mention that about corp or so. Harrassment is apparently tolered in this game, so honestly whats the point to play for new and casual player when we cannot play in corp or growing fast since getting ganked and harrassed until we are obliged to bring our character to slavery to those alt of player who play for 5+ years.... Dust died for a reason... Ypu will say to me AAHHH this is EVE EVE never get competition, in few they will have getting harrassed without having option while pay to play... seriously My tough having a good day o/
Pro tip: Move to Providence
Ideas:
Right click context menu on char -> custom entries
Minimize the docking game
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Cherri Minoa
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
46
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Posted - 2015.03.11 16:05:48 -
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Chal0ner wrote:BTW how's -7- these days? Was a long time ago was there
Providence? I like it, but I can't put it any better than Pippin when he describes Fangorn Forest:
"it reminds me, somehow, of the old room in the Great Place of the Tooks away back in the Smials at Tuckborough: a huge place, where the furniture has never been moved or changed for generations. They say the Old Took lived in it year after year, while he and the room got older and shabbier togetherGÇöand it has never been changed since he died, a century ago"
"If I had been censured every time I have run my ship, or fleets under my command, into great danger, I should have long ago been out of the Service" - Horatio Nelson
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Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class
1080
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Posted - 2015.03.11 16:13:19 -
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Running a corp is not easy, as you've found out.
Try running a wormhole corporation, you get far less harassment from your average wannabe tyrant since they actually have to risk something to poke you inside w-space.
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M'pact
Apotheosis of Caledvwich Dirt Nap Squad.
59
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Posted - 2015.03.11 16:26:35 -
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I applaud the OP's decision to fight.
First thing I would do if the CEO of my corp submitted to a threat like that? Quit the corp. I wouldn't want to play with somebody that spineless.
When I finally do make an impact on this universe, it will reverberate across the entirety of it, and no one will be able to truthfully claim they don't know me.
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Until then, I'll just sit quietly over here, minding my own business...
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vccv
26
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Posted - 2015.03.12 01:29:27 -
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Congrats OP. In a short amount of time you have gained more experience running a Corp that a large percentage of EVE players. Don't get upset, it sounds like you created your own content and had some fun right from the get-go, even if it didn't end well. Aside from using these forums to vent, you are doing well for yourself! o7 |
Memphis Baas
206
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Posted - 2015.03.12 02:11:37 -
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Rebels of Quebec!! |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
49035
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Posted - 2015.03.12 03:04:51 -
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M'pact wrote:I applaud the OP's decision to fight.
First thing I would do if the CEO of my corp submitted to a threat like that? Quit the corp. I wouldn't want to play with somebody that spineless. This 100%.
To the OP,
Good job on finding the Spy. Just have all your members leave the corp and then come back when the wardec is over.
As for your situation, yeah, it is harassment even though most everyone says it's not. A lot of the so called high sec PvP corps are nothing more than griefers. They go for easy killmails by wardeccin' newly created Industrial player corps.
CCP usually turns a blind eye to things like that. If you petition it, CCP's excuse for it is the same crap they say to the media - it's player made content. Basically it's all smoke & mirrors, in reality it's griefing which eventually turns into harassment.
Bottom line is CCP won't advertize it or inform players about crap like that because that won't bring in new players.
Gotta say I'm a bit dismayed by the cander of all the 'cough cough' helpful regulars who posted 'cough cough' enlightened replies :
Come to think of it, not dismayed, more like ashamed.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Morathi II
Rebels of Quebec
3
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Posted - 2015.03.12 03:31:23 -
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vccv wrote:Congrats OP. In a short amount of time you have gained more experience running a Corp that a large percentage of EVE players. Don't get upset, it sounds like you created your own content and had some fun right from the get-go, even if it didn't end well. Aside from using these forums to vent, you are doing well for yourself! o7 Its a game no worry i know, the game is cool of course, im upset for the alt things of older character with a lot of money wgo finance a corp of alt and such to declare war on new player. Just think is cheap, and the fact hes not contending of wrecking our ship its those 2 points im kinda berk. We fighted even if we know we will lost for the enjoyment. Losing its a part of the Learning idc of that but after lose its ok... we have understand leave us know lol. |
Morathi II
Rebels of Quebec
3
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Posted - 2015.03.12 03:33:10 -
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M'pact wrote:I applaud the OP's decision to fight.
First thing I would do if the CEO of my corp submitted to a threat like that? Quit the corp. I wouldn't want to play with somebody that spineless. some of my miners players was pissed , some combat wanted to continue but for what? no i sended msg to my member to leave the corp after knowed they wont leave us. so i just talk with those member to suggest area to go and help them in their new research. |
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Morathi II
Rebels of Quebec
3
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Posted - 2015.03.12 03:37:14 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:M'pact wrote:I applaud the OP's decision to fight.
First thing I would do if the CEO of my corp submitted to a threat like that? Quit the corp. I wouldn't want to play with somebody that spineless. This 100%.
To the OP, Good job on finding the Spy. Just have all your members leave the corp and then come back when the wardec is over. As for your situation, yeah, it is harassment even though most everyone says it's not. A lot of the so called high sec PvP corps are nothing more than griefers. They go for easy killmails by wardeccin' newly created Industrial player corps. CCP usually turns a blind eye to things like that. If you petition it, CCP's excuse for it is the same crap they say to the media - it's player made content. Basically it's all smoke & mirrors, in reality it's griefing which eventually turns into harassment. Bottom line is CCP won't advertize it or inform players about crap like that because that won't bring in new players. Gotta say I'm a bit dismayed by the cander of all the 'cough cough' helpful regulars who posted 'cough cough' enlightened replies : Come to think of it, not dismayed, more like ashamed. DMC ticket to CCP lol even if ppl didnt liked dust sending a ticket to ccp because your pissed they will only laugh we both know :). im honestly not that much, Learning experience, but you lose some because of this things, my point is more to try to keep the new since the game is dropping recently, dont think this help to keep the casual, eve its a game of sp, math and meta , less skill than fps so the time you played is more valuable than the raw skill my tough |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2078
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Posted - 2015.03.12 04:24:17 -
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War declarations are quite specifically not griefing.
Quote:This should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two (or more) players, such as corporation wars. The EVE universe is a harsh universe largely driven by such conflict and notice must be taken of the fact that nonconsensual combat alone is not considered to be grief play per the above definition.
Blowing up peoples spaceships in a game about blowing up peoples spaceships is not considered griefing or harassment. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
7661
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Posted - 2015.03.12 07:06:56 -
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Morathi II wrote:eve its a game of sp, math and meta , less skill than fps so the time you played is more valuable than the raw skill my tough For skillpoints... read the link in my signature. It explains why skillpoints are not THE defining reason why older players beat younger players.
With regards to "player skills"... EVE requires different kinds of "skills." Math and meta are just two of them... and they do require a fair degree of mental skill to manipulate and plan around.You can't beat people just because you can move your mouse faster.
The SP System
How did you start?
IFW
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Valkin Mordirc
750
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Posted - 2015.03.12 07:30:38 -
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First off. EVE is not about SP. Sorry, but its not. It's very very possible for a 5mil SP toon to kill or 70mil SP toon. I have a guy in one of my former corps.
https://zkillboard.com/character/94235843/
Thats him. Can you guess his Birthday? 01.16.2014 He's only a Year old and he's ranked as 109th recent rank on Zkill. His SP is 20mil ish. That's goes to show how much SP actually accounts for in EVE.
Second. Good job for fighting. It's peeps like you that keep Highsec intresting. Keep it up and I'm sure you'll go far.
Next. Running a corp in EVE. Is difficult. To say the least. You are literally herding Cats. It takes someone who knows what they are doing in order to do it properly. I would suggest joining another corp, that has competent players. And figure out how they do there thing and adapt your self.
EVE is ever changing it one thing that makes it a wonderful game.
#DeleteTheWeak
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5963
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Posted - 2015.03.12 08:08:59 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:M'pact wrote:I applaud the OP's decision to fight.
First thing I would do if the CEO of my corp submitted to a threat like that? Quit the corp. I wouldn't want to play with somebody that spineless. This 100%.
To the OP, Good job on finding the Spy. Just have all your members leave the corp and then come back when the wardec is over. As for your situation, yeah, it is harassment even though most everyone says it's not. A lot of the so called high sec PvP corps are nothing more than griefers. They go for easy killmails by wardeccin' newly created Industrial player corps. CCP usually turns a blind eye to things like that. If you petition it, CCP's excuse for it is the same crap they say to the media - it's player made content. Basically it's all smoke & mirrors, in reality it's griefing which eventually turns into harassment. Bottom line is CCP won't advertize it or inform players about crap like that because that won't bring in new players. Gotta say I'm a bit dismayed by the cander of all the 'cough cough' helpful regulars who posted 'cough cough' enlightened replies : Come to think of it, not dismayed, more like ashamed. DMC
It is not harassment at all. Even far from that.
Now, if they would keep targeting OP, even after he did try everything he could to prevent it, then it would be classed as harassment.
To quote a glorious GM:
GM Spiral wrote:"One of our wartargets include some newer players. Will we get in trouble for shooting them?" Generally, no. Rookies contacting us with concerns in this regard will in most cases be directed to rejoin NPC corporations so that they may complete their tutorials and career missions in relative peace. Camping a station in a rookie system for rookie war targets may result in accidents involving other rookie pilots so we do not recommend doing so and may cause us to have a word with you.
Source is here.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5963
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Posted - 2015.03.12 08:21:56 -
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Morathi II wrote: ticket to CCP lol even if ppl didnt liked dust sending a ticket to ccp because your pissed they will only laugh we both know :). im honestly not that much, Learning experience, but you lose some because of this things, my point is more to try to keep the new since the game is dropping recently, dont think this help to keep the casual, eve its a game of sp, math and meta , less skill than fps so the time you played is more valuable than the raw skill my tough
This is the biggest bunch of BS I've seen.
I know that if I go 1v1 with Azda Ja in low-sec in a frigate.
Azda would serve my ass on a silver platter to me, even though I've been playing for about 4.5 more years then she has.
EVE is a game that balances SP, experience, knowledge, meta and all the other things pretty well. If you don't have the SP, there are plenty of other ways to achieve what you are doing.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5963
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Posted - 2015.03.12 08:22:48 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Morathi II wrote:eve its a game of sp, math and meta , less skill than fps so the time you played is more valuable than the raw skill my tough For skillpoints... read the link in my signature. It explains why skillpoints are not THE defining reason why older players beat younger players. With regards to "player skills"... EVE requires different kinds of "skills." Math and meta are just two of them... and they do require a fair degree of mental skill to manipulate and plan around.You can't beat people just because you can move your mouse faster.
This.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5963
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Posted - 2015.03.12 08:25:20 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote: Next. Running a corp in EVE. Is difficult. To say the least. You are literally herding Cats. It takes someone who knows what they are doing in order to do it properly. I would suggest joining another corp, that has competent players. And figure out how they do there thing and adapt your self.
I agree.
Not only will it benefit your own gameplay (learn from the experienced) but you can also see how they handle certain situations.
And, you can make friends. Then you might eventually decide you want to stick with this corp and rise in the ranks of it, or again try your own corp.
But you have friends that you can always call upon (be it members that move with you or in case of a war...an ally to help you in the war).
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
695
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Posted - 2015.03.12 08:51:11 -
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Morathi II wrote:Its a game no worry i know, the game is cool of course, im upset for the alt things of older character with a lot of money wgo finance a corp of alt and such to declare war on new player. Just think is cheap, and the fact hes not contending of wrecking our ship its those 2 points im kinda berk. Welcome to Eve! This is not a game centered around "balanced PvP" like Dust 514. With the freedom of the sandbox come the possibility of another player using that freedom to pick a fight with you. Don't worry though, there are many tools at your disposal to evade those attacks, or even fight back. The real way to win at Eve is not through ship piloting/combat skills, but is to use the freedom of the sandbox to make the situation in your favour as much as possible.
Morathi II wrote:We fighted even if we know we will lost for the enjoyment. Losing its a part of the Learning idc of that but after lose its ok... we have understand leave us know lol. That spirit will earn you respect and get you towards your goal. Each fight will teach you something new and don't let yourself be blinded by rage and not reach out to your attackers. Often, they will be a good source of info on what you can do better next time and will be happy to share that with you.
If you take the wardec in stride and learn to function as a corp under wartime conditions, or even fight back, you will find your game experience and your game skills much improved. If you turtle in a station and just whine to CCP about how unfair the game is you will not only attract the attention of a certain type of player, but you will not learn anything and will spend the rest of your days in Eve languishing in a highsec failcorp and a prey item for everyone else.
Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
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Cherri Minoa
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:59:52 -
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You can stay with your own corp and tough it out if you can stand the pain... sounds like you might have the balls for it. Or you can join a more experienced player corp until you've learned the tricks for survival.
There is a 3rd option you may want to consider. Get an alt you don't use and make them the CEO of your corp, just to mothball it. You and your mates join an NPC corp. Now, you operate together as an "unofficial" corp. Of course, you lose all the game mechanic benefits of a corporation, but it gives you the chance to grow and learn without being wardecced every 5 minutes.
You can make yourself a website if you want, get a forum, use Teamspeak. You can certainly form mining and ratting fleets, do some exploring, generally get to know each other and get to know the game. A few months down the line, if you still want, you can all move back to your corp and be in a stronger position.
"If I had been censured every time I have run my ship, or fleets under my command, into great danger, I should have long ago been out of the Service" - Horatio Nelson
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