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Aeryn Maricadie
Periphery Bound
7
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Posted - 2015.03.22 22:12:24 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:Shiloh Templeton wrote:In addition to some of the above ...
Astrometric Acquisition, Pinpointing -- I did it on one character and wouldn't do it again
Hacking (this is worth training to 5 if you do the new sleeper cache sites)
Advanced Target Mgt except for maybe Logi
Science Invention skills (Electromagnetic Physics, etc.) Almost a year of training for <2% improved chance of success
I did some quick math, and in order for Astrometrics Acquisition to pay for itself... that is, for it to save you the amount of time in scanning that you spent training it, you would have to do somewhere around 500,000 probe scans. I guess if you include the bonus of equipping the T2 scan array, maybe 200,000. Still... I know it's not the only factor, but goddamn that is a good argument never to train it.
Its worth it if you live in a WH |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
963
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Posted - 2015.03.23 02:02:07 -
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Aeryn Maricadie wrote:Chance Ravinne wrote:Shiloh Templeton wrote:In addition to some of the above ...
Astrometric Acquisition, Pinpointing -- I did it on one character and wouldn't do it again
Hacking (this is worth training to 5 if you do the new sleeper cache sites)
Advanced Target Mgt except for maybe Logi
Science Invention skills (Electromagnetic Physics, etc.) Almost a year of training for <2% improved chance of success
I did some quick math, and in order for Astrometrics Acquisition to pay for itself... that is, for it to save you the amount of time in scanning that you spent training it, you would have to do somewhere around 500,000 probe scans. I guess if you include the bonus of equipping the T2 scan array, maybe 200,000. Still... I know it's not the only factor, but goddamn that is a good argument never to train it. Its worth it if you live in a WH
Perfect scanning really comes into its own when you can scan down pilots in one or two scans. Guys who log out, or guys who think that they have a lot of time. Battleships and capitals that take time to align. Those kills make the training time worth it.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4734
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Posted - 2015.03.24 01:56:39 -
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Jump Portal Generation past level 1.
Because I'll never pilot a titan, and it is useless past level 1 for Black Ops. |
Aivo Dresden
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
423
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Posted - 2015.03.24 08:30:16 -
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RavenPaine wrote:Perfect scanning really comes into its own when you can scan down pilots in one or two scans. Guys who log out, or guys who think that they have a lot of time. Battleships and capitals that take time to align. Those kills make the training time worth it. This is actually very true. For scanning down holes it's not that important for it could mean the difference between getting a nice kill or being just 2 seconds too late.
The scanning skills are next on my list of things to train, once the current 3-4 skills are done. |
Adrian Maifeld
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
2
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Posted - 2015.03.24 10:54:02 -
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digitalwanderer wrote:[...] to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....[...]
Sorry, but I have to post this!
Really priceless! |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
966
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Posted - 2015.03.25 04:22:13 -
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Adrian Maifeld wrote:digitalwanderer wrote:[...] to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....[...] Sorry, but I have to post this! Really priceless!
Someone killed a PVE ship in '14 Then you posted somebody else's PVE kill in '15
Priceless indeed
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Daimus Daranius
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2015.03.25 08:59:31 -
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Justin Zaine wrote:digitalwanderer wrote:Anything that isn't related to ships in some way in order to make them better.....That said, I am already at 211 skill at level 5 on ship related skills and have maybe another 50~60 ahead to max everything out that I want on the ship front.
So I'm nearly at 250 million sp, and have enough to maybe reach 300 million sp and 260~270 skills to lvl 5, at which the ultimate goal is reached, and can fly every ship class, from every race, regardless of it's load out, to their maximum potential.
This ultimate goal will have taken nearly 14 years to achieve and I'm almost at the 12 year mark right now, to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....Value of this achievement?....Priceless. I'll pay you 1.6 bil for your toon. Offer is good for 12 hours.
And I'll pay you double that amount if you evemail me pics of your naked girlfriend. Offer is good for 24 hours.
I also need a proof that she actually is your girlfriend, so you can't just use image of some random girl you found on the Internet. She could be holding a cardboard piece with the text " I GÖÑ Justin Zaine", for example.
Amarr Victor!
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Big Lynx
1067
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Posted - 2015.03.25 20:52:08 -
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Adrian Maifeld wrote:digitalwanderer wrote:[...] to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....[...] Sorry, but I have to post this! Really priceless! Brrrruuuhhaahahahahaaaa |
Lost Greybeard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
552
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Posted - 2015.03.26 12:29:36 -
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Lucine Delacourt wrote:Two weeks before you hit your goal they will add more skills for you to train. Can't let anyone think they have beaten the game.
More likely they'll split more skills into multiple skills where each of the 4 new skills only does 1/4 of what the original skill did but the multiplier is only reduced from 4 to 3 or similar. Y'know, like they've already started doing. |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
492
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Posted - 2015.03.28 08:23:08 -
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Jump Portal Generation
I have it for black ops use. Even if I decided to train up for a Titan, I doubt I'd take that 14x skill to 5. |
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Veld God
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.03.30 02:49:12 -
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digitalwanderer wrote:Justin Zaine wrote:digitalwanderer wrote:Justin Zaine wrote:digitalwanderer wrote:Anything that isn't related to ships in some way in order to make them better.....That said, I am already at 211 skill at level 5 on ship related skills and have maybe another 50~60 ahead to max everything out that I want on the ship front.
So I'm nearly at 250 million sp, and have enough to maybe reach 300 million sp and 260~270 skills to lvl 5, at which the ultimate goal is reached, and can fly every ship class, from every race, regardless of it's load out, to their maximum potential.
This ultimate goal will have taken nearly 14 years to achieve and I'm almost at the 12 year mark right now, to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....Value of this achievement?....Priceless. I'll pay you 1.6 bil for your toon. Offer is good for 12 hours. Ha.....Your funny, as I keep that kind of isk as loose change...:) Don't patronize me mister. That is some serious isk and a good offer. Consider it. Only 4 hrs remaining. You're talking to a char that has over 100 billion in assets and isk, so yes your 1.6 billion offer is pathetic for a char that has needed nearly 12 years of training to reach this point, regardless of assets or isk accumulated in that time. Frankly, that "generous" offer can almost be considered insulting.
1.7 bil
Offer is good for the next 12 hours.
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Velarra
379
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Posted - 2015.05.22 00:34:57 -
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digitalwanderer wrote:
Since I'm not interested at all in corporation skills, mining, production, research or marketing, they better hurry up since the amount of skills that affect ships in some way or form, is dwindling fast.
Did you ever mine when it was genuinely a valid and profitable (to cover pvp costs) career in eve? |
lord xavier
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
70
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:22:10 -
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Corp management skills Science skills that dont effect my combat ships Mining/Industry related skills.
Skills that involve the use of the Phoenix. Capital Remote Hull Repair Advanced Infomorph ****
While people plan on never putting some of these skills to 5, such as Tact shield manip, misc armor and drone skills or turret/launcher specializations. When you get to a point where you look at a bunch of level 4s and 5s. You'll end up training them anyways just because you have 90 days left before you can remap. Unless you plan on just training pointless skills in a combat pilot, like industry and mining crap. |
WhatYouDidThere
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2015.06.10 13:11:03 -
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digitalwanderer wrote:Anything that isn't related to ships in some way in order to make them better.....That said, I am already at 211 skill at level 5 on ship related skills and have maybe another 50~60 ahead to max everything out that I want on the ship front.
So I'm nearly at 250 million sp, and have enough to maybe reach 300 million sp and 260~270 skills to lvl 5, at which the ultimate goal is reached, and can fly every ship class, from every race, regardless of it's load out, to their maximum potential.
This ultimate goal will have taken nearly 14 years to achieve and I'm almost at the 12 year mark right now, to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....Value of this achievement?....Priceless.
Holy **** this was a sad read...
Going off topic to brag about nolifeing it hard, I must have been in the sun too long... |
Simply Fied
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.06.13 10:39:47 -
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digitalwanderer wrote:Anything that isn't related to ships in some way in order to make them better.....That said, I am already at 211 skill at level 5 on ship related skills and have maybe another 50~60 ahead to max everything out that I want on the ship front.
So I'm nearly at 250 million sp, and have enough to maybe reach 300 million sp and 260~270 skills to lvl 5, at which the ultimate goal is reached, and can fly every ship class, from every race, regardless of it's load out, to their maximum potential.
This ultimate goal will have taken nearly 14 years to achieve and I'm almost at the 12 year mark right now, to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....Value of this achievement?....Priceless.
This. The truth and nothing but the truth. |
Jurgen Strottenpotten
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2015.06.15 06:26:14 -
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digitalwanderer wrote:With all the electronics skills maxed as they are, I'd be a nightmare in a falcon and it doesn't involve actually shooting anyone......
Sir, no, you wouldn't be a nightmare in a Falcon ... yet. Your killboard has four losses and one kill, so your Falcon would be a smoking wreck before you knew what hit you. It would take you some time doing real PvP to become a competent Falcon pilot, after which your top notch skills might indeed make you a nightmare in a Falcon. Please don't confuse skill points with actual piloting skills. Take that Falcon, start flying it, and stop making up stuff about being PvP pilot and all.
You have nearly the most SP in the game and I'm sure everyone gives you enough credit for that. But that's it. |
Jurgen Strottenpotten
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2015.06.15 06:30:59 -
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Simply Fied wrote:Quote:So I'm nearly at 250 million sp, and have enough to maybe reach 300 million sp and 260~270 skills to lvl 5, at which the ultimate goal is reached, and can fly every ship class, from every race, regardless of it's load out, to their maximum potential. This. The truth and nothing but the truth. Alas, flying ships to their maximum potential requires more than SP. A badly piloted ship in the hands of a 300m SP character poses very little threat to any well skilled pilot. |
Talurion
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
4
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Posted - 2015.06.24 23:54:31 -
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Rigging **** Racial strategic cruisers
It is now pl/n3, not PL/N3 (sacrificed all their caps)
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Etara Silverblade
Morex Group Inc. Haven.
39
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Posted - 2015.06.25 11:04:27 -
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digitalwanderer wrote:So I'm nearly at 250 million sp, and have enough to maybe reach 300 million sp and 260~270 skills to lvl 5, at which the ultimate goal is reached, and can fly every ship class, from every race, regardless of it's load out, to their maximum potential.
You're just bragging!
Everyone else: once you start reaching 200 mil skill points you'll change your mind about those skills of low importance. At this point spending a month to training cloaking 5 or medium gun specialization is nothing. You'll be able to do everything else you want to do by this point and those little bonuses of 2% here or there add up.
I'm not ruling any skill going to 5 out right now.
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Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
259
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Posted - 2015.06.27 21:15:04 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:Maybe you have more important stuff to train. Maybe you don't think that last bonus is worth it. Or you don't train skills to V unless they unlock something you need. What are the skills you categorically refuse to train to level V?
For me: Cloaking: Not spending weeks to save one second every now and then. Hacking: The loot isn't good enough for the gain Torpedo specialization: That 2% damage with one weapon type isn't worth it Tactical shield whatever it's called: Come on.
Speling.
L4 seems to be enuff for moast. |
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
900
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Posted - 2015.07.01 10:52:08 -
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Mizhir wrote:Tatical Shield Manipulation
Because it is better to have it at level 4 than at level 5. I think it's not true for those cases you are taking reps. I remember one time a guy flying with us in shield Incursion fleet didn't get parted with his bling boat, only left in a couple of percent of structure. Bleeding could've kill him. Disconnects happen, yeah.
But then, we can't opt out of our TSM 5 when flying shield buffer fits, so...
Chance Ravinne wrote:This. New class of Black Ops Mining Barge. Not that unlikely considering there's Prospect. Shizo tech incarnate if you ask me.
On topic? I guess I'll have something to contribute once I'm in sometimes like 200 mill club, 'till then - who knows? |
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