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Stitch Kaneland
Trust Doesn't Rust Triumvirate.
252
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Posted - 2015.05.19 19:38:14 -
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Muninn :D
Or more realistically svipul with 280s and titanium sabot and x2 TE. 40-50km range, massive alpha and can go over 4k/s with heat before links/implants. Think it took me 3 shots to end them.
Give Battlecruisers range to fullfil their Anti-Cruiser role
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wilgotna
Rubtech Equity Research Group
46
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Posted - 2015.05.20 05:49:52 -
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burt you are crazy if you think you can scram a garmur with a comet when both ships are doing 10kms
the garmur pilot would have to be socket closed for that to happen
garmurs realistically dont engage targets that can do over 3kms because then their light missiles cant reliably hit |
Doctor Knuckles
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
110
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Posted - 2015.05.20 07:50:03 -
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Garmur missiles can comfortably hit ship faster than 3 km/s, tbh |
Burtakus
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
37
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Posted - 2015.05.20 12:48:34 -
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wilgotna wrote:burt you are crazy if you think you can scram a garmur with a comet when both ships are doing 10kms
the garmur pilot would have to be socket closed for that to happen
garmurs realistically dont engage targets that can do over 3kms because then their light missiles cant reliably hit
Of all the garmurs I have killed in comets only once was i scram fit, and i had to scram him when we were both doing 9k +/- in open space starting 100km apart. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1416
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Posted - 2015.05.20 14:48:15 -
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I might start fitting a defensive scram. The tears will be glorious. |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1023
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Posted - 2015.05.20 22:06:26 -
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Rail thorax with painter and decent tracking mods. If it stays in a regular orbit drone it into space dust. If it flies manually then the rails will get it in a turn.
Garmurs are more sexy km than OP frigates. They die all the time.
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Zarnak Wulf
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
1853
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Posted - 2015.05.21 12:27:40 -
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Fapfapfap |
Skelee VI
Wraithguard.
51
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Posted - 2015.05.31 00:11:56 -
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Garmur are easily k8lled. I would use a sentinel or an imperial navy slicer. Arty dram good too. |
Ares Desideratus
GUILD OF DOOM MOOD UBER SWAG ETERNAL
259
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Posted - 2015.06.01 14:49:30 -
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Skelee VI wrote:Garmur are easily k8lled. I would use a sentinel or an imperial navy slicer. Arty dram good too. A Sentinel is easy pickings for a Garmur. Garmur can stay out of your neutralizer range, is not effected by your tracking disruptor, and is way faster than you. Can kill your drones if he has to. The only way a Sentinel wins is he he lands in neut range which is easier said than done especially with the slow speed of the Sentinel. |
Darth Magus
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
3
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Posted - 2015.06.11 05:47:54 -
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Read all 4 pages....
decent/OK suggestions, but none of them hit the mark...
Here is a riddle:
Garmur (pimped/boosted/Hi-Grade Snakes)
HI's: 3 x Light Missile Launcher II (Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile)
Mid's: Gistii B-Type 1MN Microwarpdrive Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor 2x Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I (Targeting Range Dampening Script)
Low's: Nanofiber Internal Structure II Capacitor Power Relay II Ballistic Control System II
Rigs: 2 x Small Ionic Field Projector II Small Polycarbon Engine Housing II _______________________________________
Hunts in low-sec (so booster alt is easy) 13km/s OH and something like 8km/s cold
Also has the 5% agility implant [Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705] and 5% speed [Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link]
Nothing ranged could ever hit it due to dual damps...unless - you specifically counter-fit with like a SEBO (or 2) in which case you're probably screwed against anything else that comes in |
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Darth Magus
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
3
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Posted - 2015.06.11 05:53:36 -
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Darth Magus wrote:Read all 4 pages....
decent/OK suggestions, but none of them hit the mark...
Here is a riddle:
Garmur (pimped/boosted/Hi-Grade Snakes)
HI's: 3 x Light Missile Launcher II (Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile)
Mid's: Gistii B-Type 1MN Microwarpdrive Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor 2x Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I (Targeting Range Dampening Script)
Low's: Nanofiber Internal Structure II Capacitor Power Relay II Ballistic Control System II
Rigs: 2 x Small Ionic Field Projector II Small Polycarbon Engine Housing II _______________________________________
Hunts in low-sec (so booster alt is easy) 13km/s OH and something like 8km/s cold
Also has the 5% agility implant [Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705] and 5% speed [Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link]
Nothing ranged could ever hit it due to dual damps...unless - you specifically counter-fit with like a SEBO (or 2) in which case you're probably screwed against anything else that comes in
...forgot to mention - thing hunts in FW plexes (small/novice) so upshipping to a Cruiser or bigger is not an option. If in novice - nothing could kill it? (cant upship)
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1449
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Posted - 2015.06.11 10:51:36 -
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No offense but, I would literally slaughter that garmur. It wouldnt even know what hit it.
And i wouldnt do it in a garmur either.
FYI that fit is not even close to that fast. |
Darth Magus
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
3
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Posted - 2015.06.11 11:09:55 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:No offense but, I would literally slaughter that garmur. It wouldnt even know what hit it.
And i wouldnt do it in a garmur either.
FYI that fit is not even close to that fast.
Ok I stand corrected, I just ran the #'s and you are correct.
This Garmur goes 6.3 km/s cold and 8.9 km/s OH with maxed skills, maxed Links (Astarte for example), Hi-Grade Snakes, Zor and Quafe...
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1449
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Posted - 2015.06.11 11:25:14 -
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You did your numbers wrong, its a little faster than that.
Either way, garmurs without defensive scram are always far easier to kill. |
Burtakus
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
37
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Posted - 2015.06.12 18:53:26 -
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When flying my comet I call this a treat. Could you please not be a scrub though and upgrade to an A-type MWD and an RF Point so I can call you a tasty treat.
Then please find a novice plex in the Martoh area so I can collect nice loot from you.
Darth Magus wrote:Read all 4 pages....
decent/OK suggestions, but none of them hit the mark...
Here is a riddle:
Garmur (pimped/boosted/Hi-Grade Snakes)
HI's: 3 x Light Missile Launcher II (Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile)
Mid's: Gistii B-Type 1MN Microwarpdrive Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor 2x Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I (Targeting Range Dampening Script)
Low's: Nanofiber Internal Structure II Capacitor Power Relay II Ballistic Control System II
Rigs: 2 x Small Ionic Field Projector II Small Polycarbon Engine Housing II _______________________________________
Hunts in low-sec (so booster alt is easy) 13km/s OH and something like 8km/s cold
Also has the 5% agility implant [Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705] and 5% speed [Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link]
Nothing ranged could ever hit it due to dual damps...unless - you specifically counter-fit with like a SEBO (or 2) in which case you're probably screwed against anything else that comes in
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TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1094
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Posted - 2015.06.13 08:43:46 -
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Lol crosi I knew you actually think you're good you risk-averse baddie.
To the thread though, the answer is you just need to be a good pilot and engage a bad garmur. Flying a garmur is doing something very easy. Fighting a garmur is doing something very difficult. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1449
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Posted - 2015.06.13 11:11:51 -
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TrouserDeagle wrote:Lol crosi I knew you actually think you're good you risk-averse baddie.
To the thread though, the answer is you just need to be a good pilot and engage a bad garmur. Flying a garmur is doing something very easy. Fighting a garmur is doing something very difficult.
By risk averse, lets be clear, i dont engage drams obviously fit to counter garmurs in my non d-scram garmur. Since all i ever see you in is a dram (while criticising garmurs for being easy?!?!) it might look like risk aversion. Interestingly, whenever i reship to a frigate that i dont mind taking on drams in you leave local :) |
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1094
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Posted - 2015.06.13 12:00:45 -
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It gets nuts with the links snakes and faction. The #1 counter to garmurs becomes useless against them, like an AB frig snagged by whatever kiter you choose. The difference in speed and range is crazy huge. I don't go after garmurs with as much cheese as yours, because they're impossible. Everyone except you realises this, which is why you're bad.
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1449
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Posted - 2015.06.13 14:46:58 -
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These clowns that choose the 'trusolo' route with empty clones because its hard and they want e-respect. Then they complain that its too hard lol.
Ive killed snaked, linked garmurs, some of the easiest fights ive had. The only risk involved is that they will run away. But thats the same as any ship, condor and up. All i do is use things that are available in the game. Its amazing how enraged people get about legitimate sanctioned game mechanics. Specially ironic coming from some blob cartel snufd pet.
I know it would be best if there was only one ship and a single fitting for everyone to use to make eve the fair game it should be. Like pong. |
Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
635
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Posted - 2015.06.13 16:48:36 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:These clowns that choose the 'trusolo' route with empty clones because its hard and they want e-respect. Then they complain that its too hard lol.
Ive killed snaked, linked garmurs, some of the easiest fights ive had. The only risk involved is that they will run away. But thats the same as any ship, condor and up. All i do is use things that are available in the game. Its amazing how enraged people get about legitimate sanctioned game mechanics. Specially ironic coming from some blob cartel snufd pet.
I know it would be best if there was only one ship and a single fitting for everyone to use to make eve the fair game it should be. Like pong.
Oh come on Crosi! Pong was a fun game. |
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1449
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Posted - 2015.06.13 17:01:45 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:These clowns that choose the 'trusolo' route with empty clones because its hard and they want e-respect. Then they complain that its too hard lol.
Ive killed snaked, linked garmurs, some of the easiest fights ive had. The only risk involved is that they will run away. But thats the same as any ship, condor and up. All i do is use things that are available in the game. Its amazing how enraged people get about legitimate sanctioned game mechanics. Specially ironic coming from some blob cartel snufd pet.
I know it would be best if there was only one ship and a single fitting for everyone to use to make eve the fair game it should be. Like pong. Oh come on Crosi! Pong was a fun game.
Yep, and perfectly fair and balanced. ChessurDeagle should check it out. |
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1094
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Posted - 2015.06.13 18:20:59 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:These clowns that choose the 'trusolo' route with empty clones because its hard and they want e-respect. Then they complain that its too hard lol.
Ive killed snaked, linked garmurs, some of the easiest fights ive had. The only risk involved is that they will run away. But thats the same as any ship, condor and up. All i do is use things that are available in the game. Its amazing how enraged people get about legitimate sanctioned game mechanics. Specially ironic coming from some blob cartel snufd pet.
I know it would be best if there was only one ship and a single fitting for everyone to use to make eve the fair game it should be. Like pong.
you've killed some bads m8, it's meaningless. I've dropped some linked/snaked/faction garmurs, I've seen people do it in atrons, it happens all the time. it's because they're terrible. but equally I've run into some who are aware of what their ship can do, who can just yolo right into an extreme fast brawler waiting for them at 0km, because they know what to do to be immune to getting tackled, and then suddenly paper is killing scissors. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1449
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Posted - 2015.06.13 19:58:25 -
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TrouserDeagle wrote:you've killed some bads m8, it's meaningless. I've dropped some linked/snaked/faction garmurs, I've seen people do it in atrons, it happens all the time. it's because they're terrible. but equally I've run into some who are aware of what their ship can do, who can just yolo right into an extreme fast brawler waiting for them at 0km, because they know what to do to be immune to getting tackled, and then suddenly paper is killing scissors.
Not sure i recognise your authority to call anyone bads.
As for yoloing into plexes ive been doing so for years, a long time before the garmur came out. As for immunity, thats a myth. A small amount of preparation and no kite can escape a warp in. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Heiian Conglomerate
1442
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Posted - 2015.06.14 02:37:11 -
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Aro2220 wrote:A Garmur with a warp disruptor can keep you pinned at a pretty far distance. Heavy neuts/nosf don't reach that far. Neither do regular webs or disruptors. It uses missiles, so tracking disruptors don't help.
What's the best way to catch and kill it? I'm finding that the Garmur is really good at skirting around enemy null sec and picking targets they know they can kill.
So that makes me think that the best way to kill a Garmur is to be in something it thinks it can kill...but fit it so it's a big surprise. But how and what?
Easy:
2 Garmurs.
https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
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Dato Koppla
Konvict Cartel The Asylum.
856
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Posted - 2015.06.14 06:09:34 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:TrouserDeagle wrote:you've killed some bads m8, it's meaningless. I've dropped some linked/snaked/faction garmurs, I've seen people do it in atrons, it happens all the time. it's because they're terrible. but equally I've run into some who are aware of what their ship can do, who can just yolo right into an extreme fast brawler waiting for them at 0km, because they know what to do to be immune to getting tackled, and then suddenly paper is killing scissors. Not sure i recognise your authority to call anyone bads. As for yoloing into plexes ive been doing so for years, a long time before the garmur came out. As for immunity, thats a myth. A small amount of preparation and no kite can escape a warp in.
Tell that to AU/NZ timezone where the latency is so bad that by the time you get a picture lock of the kiter he's 40km off the beacon lol. |
Lucy Callagan
SnaiLs aNd FroGs Drama Sutra
20
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Posted - 2015.06.14 10:16:33 -
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Quote:how to kill a garmur ?
-Hold point long enought for you sneaky rapier friend to uncloak. -volley it with a wing of warrior while he is holding your carrier -One shot it with your insta loki when it undocks -heavy neut curse -dracila modified neut machariel -snipe confessor -LM jackdaw i your lucky you can 2 volley it (shitfit) -Orthrus
[17:34:53] LucyCallagan > Respectez mon Eliterie je vous prie !
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Zarnak Wulf
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
1854
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Posted - 2015.06.14 23:19:20 -
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Won't the new missile modules make it easier to hit fast targets? You can get a Talwar or Corax to hit out to 100+ km but you sacrifice damage application in order to achieve it .... The new modules are a wet dream of combining rigor and hydraulic bay thruster rigs. |
Fourteen Maken
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
166
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Posted - 2015.06.15 13:07:01 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:Won't the new missile modules make it easier to hit fast targets? You can get a Talwar or Corax to hit out to 100+ km but you sacrifice damage application in order to achieve it .... The new modules are a wet dream of combining rigor and hydraulic bay thruster rigs.
It all depends on stacking penalties, missile rigs are not currently affected by stacking if they are after the change and the stacking penalties carry onto the modules you'll only be able to effectively use 4 slots: for example 3 rigs and 1 computer, because the rigs are less effective than before and the computer is heavily penalized by stacking the new stats probably won't be much different than they were before. |
Pew Terror
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
221
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Posted - 2015.06.15 14:05:47 -
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Things I have learned from this thread:
Every time IGäó get killed my opponent was cheating. Every time IGäó kill someone it was a brilliant display of immense player skill against the odds. Every time YouGäó achieve something, it was against someone afk.
Close? |
Skelee VI
Wraithguard. The Wraithguard.
54
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Posted - 2015.08.24 17:52:11 -
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I caught a garmur going over 8000 with my dramiel. I dont use booster alt or implants. He will try pull targets and kyte. I went away from him. Negating his missile damage. Then i did a slingshot back with overheat. Scram. His friends got my dram. But i will trade a 48 mil dram for 400 mil garmur anyday. Slicer if flown well can do the trick or a faction fit keres |
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