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Spaceman Jack
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.16 21:26:35 -
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So I decided to try this criminal hunting thing and saw a lot of silly bastards in Jita/Amar with killrights in the half billion ISK range.
Clearly, bait/scam - as most are just sitting in empty industrials or freighters and have nothing but losses.
This is so lame for EVE - EVE should have the kind of balls that would make all killrights free. The only option for them should be: available or not available - but allowing such a high price for them is just asking for a system to fail.
Come on CCP. Let's do something more interesting here. Cap or remove the killrights payout that is clearly going to the corp-mates/alt. I can't imagine this type of baiting is what you had in mind when your top brains came up with a new criminal system to "encourage" PVP.
TL;DR - Make killrights free. There is honestly no reason to require a payout that gets exploited more than used. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20455
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Posted - 2015.03.16 21:34:20 -
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Damn you CCP, make people stop setting their killright prices so high!
Grrrr other players! Grrrr you all to hell!
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9061
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Posted - 2015.03.16 21:35:36 -
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Hahahahahagagahahahahah no.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
634
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Posted - 2015.03.16 21:40:49 -
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A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon. |
Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1143
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Posted - 2015.03.16 21:41:05 -
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Free killrights for everybody!
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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
332
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Posted - 2015.03.16 21:55:15 -
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Since when do I need some "kill right" to kill someone? Oh right high sec problems... |
Serene Repose
2404
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:01:59 -
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"...it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing."
-Willie the Shake-
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to type on your keyboard and remove all doubt.
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Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
159
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:05:30 -
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Unezka Turigahl wrote:A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon.
This I like.
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Paranoid Loyd
4209
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:05:45 -
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Kill rights are great.
OP is Lame.
My favorite is when my victims don't realize they need to activate them before use and in their blind rage turn their safety to red and attack me in their shiny ships only to be Concorded and lose another ship. To boot, now I have killrights on them.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Paranoid Loyd
4209
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:06:32 -
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Unezka Turigahl wrote:A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon. Paying attention is hard.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20455
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:09:24 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Unezka Turigahl wrote:A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon. Paying attention is hard.
Paying attention leads to effort, effort leads to enjoyment, and enjoyment leads to the dark side.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
635
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:22:56 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Unezka Turigahl wrote:A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon. Paying attention is hard.
Useless noise is good.
CCP should add 50 asteroids that don't give you anything per every 1 asteroid that does, and you need to click on each asteroid to determine if it's worth your time or not.
CCP should add 10 decoy exploration sites per 1 genuine site. You don't know if its a decoy site until you warp in and you see a billboard that reads "TROLOLOLOLOLOLOL"
Players should have to click on every market order individually to read the price because herp derp derp
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Paranoid Loyd
4210
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:25:33 -
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Unezka Turigahl wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Unezka Turigahl wrote:A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon. Paying attention is hard. Useless noise is good. It's only useless until someone pays for it. Just because it's not useful to you doesn't mean it's useless.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Chewytowel Haklar
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
95
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:40:40 -
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I forgot somehow that I had a kill right on me once. I sat outside the home station of a pirate corp called Son's of Plunder in my shiny cruiser, then wondered why I couldn't redock when they all undocked and targeted me.
Seems to be working alright. Bounties on the other hand seem pointless unless you catch the player in a big costly ship (loot the ship, get the kill, and some isk, profit). |
Paranoid Loyd
4210
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:42:41 -
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Chewytowel Haklar wrote:I forgot somehow that I had a kill right on me once. I sat outside the home station of a pirate corp called Son's of Plunder in my shiny cruiser, then wondered why I couldn't redock when they all undocked and targeted me.
Seems to be working alright. Bounties on the other hand seem pointless unless you catch the player in a big costly ship (loot the ship, get the kill, and some isk, profit). Having a kill right activated against you doesn't stop you from docking. Only engaging them and getting yourself a weapons timer does.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
501
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:43:29 -
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Inflated kill rights are not useless but an optional filter is warranted. We're at the point now where most killrights outside gates and stations are insurance fraud. Clicking these kill rights in order to see a value you have no interest in paying does not add anything to the game besides tedium.
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
636
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:43:32 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:It's only useless until someone pays for it. Just because it's not useful to you doesn't mean it's useless.
Yes, lets cater to AFK autopiloting alts trying to scam idiots, rather than throwing a bone out to people that the mechanic is actually intended for. |
Paranoid Loyd
4210
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:45:22 -
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Unezka Turigahl wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:It's only useless until someone pays for it. Just because it's not useful to you doesn't mean it's useless. Yes, lets cater to AFK autopiloting alts trying to scam idiots, rather than throwing a bone out to people that the mechanic is actually intended for. The mechanics are intended for everyone, even alts trying to scam idiots. Why are you special?
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
541
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:48:54 -
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+1
I've seen the same thing I have to agree. They got rid of the old bounty system for this reason, and it is just the same lameness with the killrights.
Basically anyone who would be affected by having a killright just has a friend of them kill them and set a silly price so one one else bothers taking them out, making the whole idea of retribution outdated by the same thing that outdated it the last time
No idea how this was overlooked, but I don't bother looking for killrights to hunt anymore for this very reason.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20460
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Posted - 2015.03.16 23:00:22 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Unezka Turigahl wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:It's only useless until someone pays for it. Just because it's not useful to you doesn't mean it's useless. Yes, lets cater to AFK autopiloting alts trying to scam idiots, rather than throwing a bone out to people that the mechanic is actually intended for. The mechanics are intended for everyone, even alts trying to scam idiots. Why are you special? Because they got boned by a scamming AFK Autopilotting alt. Its subtle, but the reasoning is right there for all to see. Because of that boning, CCP should debone the system before the system decides to bone someone else.Ask not for whom the bone bones, it bones for thee! Clip the wings of the bone, so we can have boneless wings.. or wingless bones.. doesn't really matter, what matters is that the bone is a problem, and we should nip it in the bone, before the game is boned to its bones by the bone before being thrown like a bone. Its bad I tell you.. to the bone! If something is bad to the bone.. does that mean that the bones are bad too, or that everything but the bones are bad? Is that why some people don't have a bad bone in their body? What if the bones were bad, but everything else was good? Ive never heard anyone say 'that nice guy has got a body full of bad bones.' That would be weird.. and slightly inappropriate. If you say something inappropriate, HR might catch whiff of it, and then you might be truly boned.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Paranoid Loyd
4211
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Posted - 2015.03.16 23:08:24 -
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You know the funny thing is I probably see them more than anyone whining in this thread. I scan for hours on end, of the haulers I scan 10-20% of them are what this whine thread is whining about.
But guess what, I deal with it by marking them as scamming alts. All of a sudden it's blatantly clear that I don't need to waste my time scanning them the next time they pass by. But that takes a modicum of effort which I guess is too much to ask.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Mashie Saldana
Gallente Rebels Inc. Villore Accords
1554
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Posted - 2015.03.16 23:11:56 -
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No they aren't.
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Whittorical Quandary
The Asteroid is Depleted
23
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Posted - 2015.03.16 23:14:45 -
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idk how this killright thing works but atm it's too useless for me to want to use my time to learn to use it.
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2Sonas1Cup
40
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Posted - 2015.03.16 23:17:34 -
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How to get rid of killrights for 0 isk:
Undock in jita with tank ship wait someone to activate killright dock and get t1 frig with t1 guns undock and attack him, he will have to kill you or die |
Nadine Altair
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.03.16 23:17:36 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Hahahahahagagahahahahah no.
This perfectly sums up my thoughts about high sec. |
PhantomMajor
High Flyers The Kadeshi
32
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Posted - 2015.03.16 23:33:10 -
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Unezka Turigahl wrote:A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon.
The kill rights information on the over view is so tiny that many lawyers have experienced extreme jealously over such small print. The whole "criminals in hi sec" needs to be fixed. Minus ten toons should be excluded from hi sec, there are so many ways to get your sec status fixed that moving these people's pods to low sec and banning them from using hi sec gates.
Of course this would mean CCP wouldn't get any financial back handers from CODE to keep killing miners with impunity. |
Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1146
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Posted - 2015.03.17 00:59:59 -
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There are actually supporters of this? Really?
Ok, let's review here: The reason you don't see free killrights all over the place is because the killright is free to anybody. Clearing it is exceptionally easy. The folks I used to run with would clear any killright set with a price tag of 10 mil isk or cheaper. Anything more than that, we figured we'd get a decent fight over it. The unfit haulers on the trade hub undocks are indeed scamming you. Removing the ability for them to scam you won't suddenly let you shoot those easy target haulers. The haulers will disappear.
The short answer here is that if you want to hunt people with usable killrights, you actually have to hunt.
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1146
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Posted - 2015.03.17 01:03:31 -
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PhantomMajor wrote:Unezka Turigahl wrote:A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon. The kill rights information on the over view is so tiny that many lawyers have experienced extreme jealously over such small print. The whole "criminals in hi sec" needs to be fixed. Minus ten toons should be excluded from hi sec, there are so many ways to get your sec status fixed that moving these people's pods to low sec and banning them from using hi sec gates. Of course this would mean CCP wouldn't get any financial back handers from CODE to keep killing miners with impunity.
How would you ban non-criminals from lowsec?
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23277
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Posted - 2015.03.17 01:24:11 -
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PhantomMajor wrote:The whole "criminals in hi sec" needs to be fixed. Minus ten toons should be excluded from hi sec, there are so many ways to get your sec status fixed that moving these people's pods to low sec and banning them from using hi sec gates. Except CCP have repeatedly said that players will never be prevented from entering any area of space because of their security status. If you don't want -10's in highsec then it is up to you to do something about them; that's the whole point of the sandbox.
Quote:Of course this would mean CCP wouldn't get any financial back handers from CODE to keep killing miners with impunity. Oh No!!
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Mag's
the united
19147
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Posted - 2015.03.17 02:04:18 -
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PhantomMajor wrote:Unezka Turigahl wrote:A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon. The kill rights information on the over view is so tiny that many lawyers have experienced extreme jealously over such small print. The whole "criminals in hi sec" needs to be fixed. Minus ten toons should be excluded from hi sec, there are so many ways to get your sec status fixed that moving these people's pods to low sec and banning them from using hi sec gates. Of course this would mean CCP wouldn't get any financial back handers from CODE to keep killing miners with impunity. Just one question. Did you post that with a straight face?
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