Pages: 1 :: [one page] |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Mllaya
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 04:11:11 -
[1] - Quote
Seriously, this **** isnt funny anymore. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
34917
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 04:14:40 -
[2] - Quote
90% reduction not enough?
If you are referring to carrier pilots, then just sacrifice the rigs and repack everything before moving it in a JF.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
|
Mllaya
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 04:30:59 -
[3] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:90% reduction not enough?
If you are referring to carrier pilots, then just sacrifice the rigs and repack everything before moving it in a JF, or a freighter with a jump bridge if you want more cargo space.
No, I am not referring to carrier pilots. I am saying that if you have 30-1hr of fatigue and you want to do logistics you get hosed with lots of fatigue and stupid cool downs. Did they really intend for us to use 100% dedicated hauler alts that don't do anything except logistics? its a stupid mechanic, they should remove fatigue from industrial and freighters entirely. |
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
125
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 04:33:20 -
[4] - Quote
Build locally. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6669
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 04:37:38 -
[5] - Quote
Mllaya wrote: Did they really intend for us to use 100% dedicated hauler alts that don't do anything except logistics? its a stupid mechanic, they should remove fatigue from industrial and freighters entirely. No, they didn't intend for that.
But that's the standard nowadays in null, so they've designed around that. You basically have to do it just to keep up now.
You can thank us, the obscene nullsec people who carefully organized all these things to "project power" and use "Jita Industry" by means of JF.
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
|
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
34917
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 04:43:58 -
[6] - Quote
Mllaya wrote:No, I am not referring to carrier pilots. I am saying that if you have 30-1hr of fatigue and you want to do logistics you get hosed with lots of fatigue and stupid cool downs. Did they really intend for us to use 100% dedicated hauler alts that don't do anything except logistics? its a stupid mechanic, they should remove fatigue from industrial and freighters entirely. With 90% reduction in fatigue you can make a fatigue free jump about every 15 minutes.
My JF pilot doesn't do the volume of jumps you are referring to, but she regularly chains about 8 jumps back and forth between 6LY distance. Fatigue has never been a problem.
While I feel sorry for your situation, it seems pretty edge case to be doing 30 jumps.
We are just lucky at the moment we can jump up to 10LY. The plan is to reduce that at some point based on the original design changes. Then it will be tougher if that happens.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
|
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6669
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 04:45:56 -
[7] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:We are just lucky at the moment we can jump up to 10LY. The plan is to reduce that at some point based on the original design changes. Then it will be tougher if that happens. It was going to be 5ly... a real nightmare for some people
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
|
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
34917
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 04:51:33 -
[8] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:It was going to be 5ly... a real nightmare for some people Yes. I'm glad that was a concession made by Greyscale.
But back to the jump fatigue issue, it isn't going away for freighter pilots. If anything, the 90% will be removed:
Ships in the following groups gain a 90% reduction to effective distance traveled: industrial, blockade runner, deep space transport, freighter, industrial command ship, capital industrial ship, jump freighter. This eases the impact of these changes on alliance logistics for the time being. We would like to remove these bonuses in future, but we donGÇÖt feel nullsec industry is in a sufficiently strong place that it would be prudent to do so right now.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
|
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6671
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 04:59:16 -
[9] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:It was going to be 5ly... a real nightmare for some people Yes. I'm glad that was a concession made by Greyscale. But back to the jump fatigue issue, it isn't going away for freighter pilots. If anything, the 90% will be removed: Ships in the following groups gain a 90% reduction to effective distance traveled: industrial, blockade runner, deep space transport, freighter, industrial command ship, capital industrial ship, jump freighter. This eases the impact of these changes on alliance logistics for the time being. We would like to remove these bonuses in future, but we donGÇÖt feel nullsec industry is in a sufficiently strong place that it would be prudent to do so right now. It's really a pity. Quite a lot of people were hoping that the fatigue and 5ly range would kill our 0.0 dream (by causing all our JF guys to burn out and quit) and thus shake up sov.
Sadly, goonie lobbying again succeeded in keeping us safely asleep in our 0.0 dream, allowing us to project jita industry right into our homes.... yet again...
BUT WAIT
"insta"aligning interdiction nullified plexSov laser platforms will do it
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
|
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
34917
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 05:07:13 -
[10] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:BUT WAIT
"insta"aligning interdiction nullified plexSov laser platforms will do it Maybe you can lobby for the introduction of laser fatigue.
Use the sovLaser and get fatigue for 30 days.
With the addition of Brave now, your million members will easily be able to field lasers continuously against the rush of people coming from highsec to claim their bit of space.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
|
|
Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
300
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 08:31:06 -
[11] - Quote
Mllaya wrote:Seriously, this **** isnt funny anymore.
No, deal with it.
|
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
127
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 08:43:52 -
[12] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:It was going to be 5ly... a real nightmare for some people Yes. I'm glad that was a concession made by Greyscale. But back to the jump fatigue issue, it isn't going away for freighter pilots. If anything, the 90% will be removed: Ships in the following groups gain a 90% reduction to effective distance traveled: industrial, blockade runner, deep space transport, freighter, industrial command ship, capital industrial ship, jump freighter. This eases the impact of these changes on alliance logistics for the time being. We would like to remove these bonuses in future, but we donGÇÖt feel nullsec industry is in a sufficiently strong place that it would be prudent to do so right now. This post pretty much answers everything.
CCP intends for people to build their stuff in null.
They're subtly telling logisticians to **** off with the freighting and start building.
Of course you're butthurt. CCP wants you to be butthurt. So much so that you change your playstyle.
Seriously, HTFU. Adapt or die. |
Leannor
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
142
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 09:46:59 -
[13] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:It was going to be 5ly... a real nightmare for some people Yes. I'm glad that was a concession made by Greyscale. But back to the jump fatigue issue, it isn't going away for freighter pilots. If anything, the 90% will be removed: Ships in the following groups gain a 90% reduction to effective distance traveled: industrial, blockade runner, deep space transport, freighter, industrial command ship, capital industrial ship, jump freighter. This eases the impact of these changes on alliance logistics for the time being. We would like to remove these bonuses in future, but we donGÇÖt feel nullsec industry is in a sufficiently strong place that it would be prudent to do so right now.
seriosuly, stop changing, and more sandbox ...
"Lykouleon wrote:
STOP
TOUCHING
ICONIC
SHIP
PARTS"
|
Vyl Vit
1104
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 10:01:50 -
[14] - Quote
Rawketsled wrote:CCP intends for people to build their stuff in null.
They're subtly telling logisticians to **** off with the freighting and start building.
Of course you're butthurt. CCP wants you to be butthurt. So much so that you change your playstyle.
Seriously, HTFU. Adapt or die. This subtlety seems to be lost on more than a few.
Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
|
Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
83
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 10:22:00 -
[15] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:It's really a pity. Quite a lot of people were hoping that the fatigue and 5ly range would kill our 0.0 dream (by causing all our JF guys to burn out and quit) and thus shake up sov.
Sadly, goonie lobbying again succeeded in keeping us safely asleep in our 0.0 dream, allowing us to project jita industry right into our homes.... yet again...
I was hoping for nothing. Reading the comments at the time of the change one was really led to believe that a substantial number of accounts would be unsubbed because of these changes. Has this happened? |
ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
408
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 12:27:26 -
[16] - Quote
Quote:3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. Please use the Features & Ideas Discussion board to provide your feedback and suggestions in a constructive way. Ranting without substance does not provide value to the community and incites flaming.
Thread locked.
ISD Decoy
Commander
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 :: [one page] |