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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.19 11:47:54 -
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I run a few accounts to do my own mining ops in highsec. It's about all I do, besides reading up on all the changes to Eve since I last played while I mine. But despite my life as a miner and the fact that CODE. would happily gank my real characters if they had the chance, I like CODE.
Have you SEEN those killmails? I can't believe how many people flying billion-isk pods around aren't clever enough to figure out that a noob ship in system is summoning concord offgrid... how many people fly around mackinaws with 1 roid scanner as their only mid-slot module... how many people who apparently are trying to tank their ship are still so absolutely horrible at it (I mean, I'll see people who have 2 invuln fields and 2 civilian shield boosters as their 4 mids on a hulk)... etc.
As crazy as the notion of "improving highsec by holding its basest citizens to a higher standard (or else!)" is... I actually think I buy into it after seeing how just plain bad most of the miners CODE. targets really are. |
Kalishka Ashkulf
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
108
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Posted - 2015.03.19 12:02:54 -
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This thread is awesome, I salute you and anyone with the same mindset o7
Why, thank you, Thing!
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2015.03.19 12:14:31 -
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I mean, I'm not perfect. No one is. I AFK sometimes when RL calls. I get distracted by something fun on the web and go a couple of minutes here or there without checking in on local/dscan. I flew my orca around for 3 weeks with EM+therm resists because "caldari navy antimatter S" sounded like it did EM damage to me and I never bothered to check to see that it or void actually are therm+kinetic. I know that fitting a good tank is not even close to perfect protection from ganks.
But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to take at least some of the steps necessary to reduce your risk of being ganked.
Oh well. Keep those killmails coming, CODE. I laugh out loud at probably 3/4 of them when I see those fits :) |
Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
182
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Posted - 2015.03.19 16:47:45 -
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When I mine, I AFK mine too. I couldnt care less if my ship dies, because i follow the cardinal rule of EVE. Never fly a ship you cant afford to lose. If its worth crying about, its not worth flying.
I support Code, and i Support AG, too. I support anything that is fun, brings content, and is generally interesting or amusing. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1404
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Posted - 2015.03.19 16:55:02 -
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Being that EVE is a war based economy I generally support and approve of anything that results in ships exploding and people having fun. I do believe that the two are intrinsically linked. Playing with others is almost always more fun than playing with yourself, even if you happen to lose.
I keep a thoughtgun next to the bed, fully loaded with nerdshot. Just in case.
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malcovas Henderson
THoF
347
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Posted - 2015.03.19 18:23:56 -
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I wish I had the patience, and ability to say what I think of this. So much is wrong with some of the people that play EvE. Greed, self entitlement, risk aversion, stupidity. The list is almost endless. The one player base that fits with all of these is the "Carebear" . Bluntly put, they have no right playing a game, not suited for them, and then to cry out for changes to suit their needs. In a game that does not suit them. They are entirely the selfish ones. They deserve EVERYTHING bad they get handed to them.
Unfortunately it is happening all across the gaming industry. These little darlings, even complain about people exploiting gameplay in a SINGLE player game of all things. This in itself is the level of self entitlement, they are prepared to go. They have no clue about P2W or what it's meaning entails. They consider it "cheating" to boxer play. ANYTHING that gives them a slight disadvantage HAS to be removed from the game.
In all of this I blame the gaming industry for catering to these fuckwits. I can guarantee you this. EVE Hi sec will be trammil, if these people are allowed to stay. For this I cannot thank code enough for every unsub of these clueless, gutless, self entitled beings, who have plagued the gaming industry for far too long. EVE has not been immune to it. CCP are caving in to them. piece meal, by piece meal.
I could carry on but as I said I wish I had the patience to put in here, my heart felt opinions on the subject.
o7 |
LuckyQuarter
Lucky Galactic Expeditions
33
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Posted - 2015.03.19 21:52:20 -
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I frequently mine highsec 0.5 belts in a pyfa-optimized 100K+ ehp skiff fit. I've also done low-sec and w-space mining when rigged for agility/warp-stabs.
However, in the system I am in now, there is a miner that has lost two mackinaws in the last 30 days. Both times, his fit included 3 MLU2's and his total EHP was less than 15K. He's fine with that. He figures it is just a cost of business. He also isn't a new char....been subscribed for 3yrs.
I'm normally OK with people doing whatever they do in high-sec, but I attempted to report his location to anyone who normally ganks macks this afternoon.... however, no one was interested :( Maybe they thought it was a skiff bait trap. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4860
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Posted - 2015.03.19 22:48:44 -
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Anyone that mines and is diligent enough to not take losses from us should like us, we cut down on your competition.
I do hope you own a mining permit, however.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Jallukola
44
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Posted - 2015.03.19 22:50:31 -
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Good for you, I guess. I never saw what's the fuzz about CODE even is, it's almost like they're not there, the impact of their actions seem to be nigh non-existant. I suppose that's what an encyclopedia would call "irrelevance".
Leo Moracchioli - All About That Bass
Leo Moracchioli - Shake It Off
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Drez Arthie
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:42:28 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Anyone that mines and is diligent enough to not take losses from us should like us, we cut down on your competition.
I do hope you own a mining permit, however.
Never took losses from CODE, mostly because I get too bored mining to stay in space long enough to be ganked. Well that and never AFK/bot mining. Can't say I support CODE because they're too damn religious about it, though I did vote for Sabriz for CSM <3 |
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
12179
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Posted - 2015.03.20 01:43:31 -
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We are not well liked, much like garbagemen, plumbers, and other blue collar jobs in real life.
But just like those real life jobs, someone has to do it, or we'd all be covered in ****.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Drez Arthie
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2015.03.20 01:59:53 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:We are not well liked, much like garbagemen, plumbers, and other blue collar jobs in real life.
But just like those real life jobs, someone has to do it, or we'd all be covered in ****.
Oh please, pat yourselves on the back harder. If CODE didn't exist, we'd all be mourning the lack of .. ummm .. nothing. |
Damnskippy
Hounds of War. Hashashin Cartel
24
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Posted - 2015.03.20 03:44:16 -
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Drez Arthie wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:We are not well liked, much like garbagemen, plumbers, and other blue collar jobs in real life.
But just like those real life jobs, someone has to do it, or we'd all be covered in ****. Oh please, pat yourselves on the back harder. If CODE didn't exist, we'd all be mourning the lack of .. ummm .. nothing.
NOT TRUE. There are approximately 2.6 "grrr code", 1.33333338 "code is dying", 6.3 "code are psychopaths" and 42 code self congratulatory threads posted weekly. I would miss every single one of them.
I also find minerbumping pretty amusing.
( Authors note: Since 92% of internet quoted statistics are just made up, I made up my own too. Counting and math is hard. )
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Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
167
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Posted - 2015.03.20 03:46:25 -
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Drez Arthie wrote: Oh please, pat yourselves on the back harder. If CODE didn't exist, we'd all be mourning the lack of .. ummm .. nothing.
I tried patting myself on the back harder
LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE DONE!!! |
Odeva Pawen
Aideron Robotics
33
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Posted - 2015.03.20 04:04:05 -
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Whenever I see someone spreading tears in local, I link this.
Sabriz For CSMX!
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Steppa Musana
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2015.03.20 04:33:43 -
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You love a group of players that call you the "bottom feeder of EVE", and view you as inferior because of your way off ISKing. Do you also like BDSM? I bet you're a submissive! |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4865
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Posted - 2015.03.20 04:34:03 -
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Drez Arthie wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Anyone that mines and is diligent enough to not take losses from us should like us, we cut down on your competition.
I do hope you own a mining permit, however. Never took losses from CODE, mostly because I get too bored mining to stay in space long enough to be ganked. Well that and never AFK/bot mining. Can't say I support CODE because they're too damn religious about it, though I did vote for Sabriz for CSM <3
I've never really got the 'CODE is a religion' stuff.
We respect James and generally trust his judgement, but that's about the extent of it.
I've never talked to him and have only ever communicated by evemail a few times.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Avellean
Evil Young Flesh
8
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Posted - 2015.03.20 05:01:50 -
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Amarrchecko wrote:I run a few accounts to do my own mining ops in highsec. It's about all I do, besides reading up on all the changes to Eve since I last played while I mine. But despite my life as a miner and the fact that CODE. would happily gank my real characters if they had the chance, I like CODE.
Have you SEEN those killmails? I can't believe how many people flying billion-isk pods around aren't clever enough to figure out that a noob ship in system is summoning concord offgrid... how many people fly around mackinaws with 1 roid scanner as their only mid-slot module... how many people who apparently are trying to tank their ship are still so absolutely horrible at it (I mean, I'll see people who have 2 invuln fields and 2 civilian shield boosters as their 4 mids on a hulk)... etc.
As crazy as the notion of "improving highsec by holding its basest citizens to a higher standard (or else!)" is... I actually think I buy into it after seeing how just plain bad most of the miners CODE. targets really are.
They are bad because most of the miners code ganks are new to the game. CODE is garbage, they cant handle real pvp so they resort to ganking miners and haulers. |
Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2015.03.20 05:10:35 -
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Avellean wrote:They are bad because most of the miners code ganks are new to the game. CODE is garbage, they cant handle real pvp so they resort to ganking miners and haulers.
You should look through their recent killmails some day. It's pretty surprising how few of their kills seem to be truly new players compared to how many are long-time players who are just lazy or dumb. |
Avellean
Evil Young Flesh
8
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Posted - 2015.03.20 05:51:21 -
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Amarrchecko wrote:Avellean wrote:They are bad because most of the miners code ganks are new to the game. CODE is garbage, they cant handle real pvp so they resort to ganking miners and haulers. You should look through their recent killmails some day. It's pretty surprising how few of their kills seem to be truly new players compared to how many are long-time players who are just lazy or dumb. Hell. I even have created new gallente alts on my accounts with plans of them being gankers too (what would be more fun than seeing silly fits in killmails on zkillboard? seeing those killmails ingame, of course!), I just haven't convinced myself to stop training my miners to put some points into my anti-miners yet.
Was in a system running missions and the whole time i was there a code guy in a npc corp of course was killing new players most less than a week old. Regardless of the pilots age my point is still valid, those who cant handle real pvp resort to ganking ships that cant fight back. |
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Don Purple
Snuggle Society Snuggle Society.
1134
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Posted - 2015.03.20 08:02:02 -
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You look delicious Avellean.
I am just here to snuggle.
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
210
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:15:08 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Anyone that mines and is diligent enough to not take losses from us should like us, we cut down on your competition.
I do hope you own a mining permit, however.
*snickers*
No! Never had losses from you and still despise CODE and their members. I despise hipocrits that demand things from others that they self will not do. -> go nullsec
WIMRE someone wrote, that you sabriz told in the CSM application, that living in nullsec is not viable for you guys.
Reading about code is always fast change about laughing hard about code ignorance and "facepalming" and "face to desk" emotions. Code guys are just lame hisec-carebears who think they are better than players with playstiles other then theirs.. (hint: thats why you sabriz didnt make it into CSM )
Following the keynotes showed everyone the importance of code. Almost Zero!
quote=Kaarous Aldurald]We are not well liked, much like garbagemen, plumbers, and other blue collar jobs in real life.
But just like those real life jobs, someone has to do it, or we'd all be covered in ****. [/quote]
I like and respect those guys. Also whores: i respect them. Code: I dislike them like sh?t on my dining plate or garbage on my bed. IMO codies are covererd in *****
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Alana Charen-Teng
Sword of the Saviour 315th Circuit Court
538
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Posted - 2015.03.20 10:43:03 -
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Avellean wrote: Was in a system running missions and the whole time i was there a code guy in a npc corp of course was killing new players most less than a week old. Regardless of the pilots age my point is still valid, those who cant handle real pvp resort to ganking ships that cant fight back.
Which system were you running missions in? I'd like to drop by. |
Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2015.03.20 10:56:00 -
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@La Rynx
This is just a game, dude. And CODE. is playing a role permitted by the game's rules.
Sidenote - my catalyst alts have started training |
Mikael Menethil
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2015.03.20 11:28:26 -
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You are filtering out the fun people. If everyone is skilled, competitive, aggressive and cunning, EVE would be even more boring.
I suggest you target more of the "experienced" miners, who have no excuses anymore, and leave the newbies to breathe a little. Many dont mine because they like mining, they do it to learn the game (interface, skills etc). It's an activity where you have some time to read.
If you think you'll convince them to switch to combat skills and go pvp, you are wrong. |
Mikael Menethil
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2015.03.20 11:29:13 -
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double post |
Danalee
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
1151
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Posted - 2015.03.20 11:37:05 -
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La Rynx wrote: I HATE CODE. - Because - Haven't had contact with them ever, but look at them, they are ******! - They R stupidz - they smell - They have a playstyle different from mine - I am teh envy of people who want to try things like CSM. - U SUXXOR!
Something about prostitution
Those are indeed some good arguments. What forced you to make them? All I want for Christmas is more people like the OP.
Thanks!
D.
STOP OPPRESSING MEEEEEEE
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2015.03.20 12:33:43 -
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Mikael Menethil wrote:I suggest you target more of the "experienced" miners, who have no excuses anymore, and leave the newbies to breathe a little.
While you were talking about how many noobs are getting ganked, I went to the killboards and looked (like I suggested you should earlier). Out of the first 10 or so kills I saw, 2 were of one-month-old characters (plus a younger character who seemed unlikely to be a genuinely new player). The rest were old players in barges and players in exhumers, who should know better.
But they don't. They get ganked multiple times in the same system within an hour rather than move around a bit. They fit T2 afterburners on their mackinaws instead of making good bookmarks. They, almost invariably, do not have decent tanks on their ships. They like to mine in .5s, apparently without having standings set and keeping even a casual eye on local. Etc.
Sure, events like the venture ganking competition are disproportionately targetting new players. But hey. I'd rather learn that highsec isn't safesec by losing a venture than a few months later by losing my first mackinaw. Wouldn't you? Of course, these players could just use google, or join a corp, or read the forums, or stuff like that, which would go a long ways to protect them from ganks.
I need about 36 hours until my catalysts are ready for action with basic t1 fits and skills. Convenient that the orca I'm usually using on mining ops will work so well as a staging point even after my catalyst alts are -10! |
malcovas Henderson
THoF
350
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Posted - 2015.03.20 12:53:35 -
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Avellean wrote:
Was in a system running missions and the whole time i was there a code guy in a npc corp of course was killing new players most less than a week old. Regardless of the pilots age my point is still valid, those who cant handle real pvp resort to ganking ships that cant fight back.
Im calling BS on this. A "Code" guy in an NPC corp. One He cannot be a Code guy in a an NPC corp. Two if is an alt of a Code, how would you know. Again Clueless carebears spewing BS. |
Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:10:32 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:Avellean wrote:
Was in a system running missions and the whole time i was there a code guy in a npc corp of course was killing new players most less than a week old. Regardless of the pilots age my point is still valid, those who cant handle real pvp resort to ganking ships that cant fight back.
Im calling BS on this. A "Code" guy in an NPC corp. One He cannot be a Code guy in a an NPC corp. Two if is an alt of a Code, how would you know. Again Clueless carebears spewing BS.
"The New Order transcends corporations, alliances, and coalitions. There's no membership application or skill requirement to join. Everyone in EVE who takes any action to support our cause is an Agent of the New Order."
So close enough. |
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