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xavier zor2
Abattoir Militia
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:03:21 -
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Hello EVE pilots. I am a dust merc trying to make EVE work for me so i can provide my own orbital support in FW (yes, i know it will be a LONG LONG time away) but i need some help, ASAP.
Where do i warp to buy ships, and if it is a specific place, can i save this destination to use it later? The corp i am in is great, they are helping me...i get the skill tree as i play dust and they have their similarities. The fitting is fine, i know about the certain damage profiles, ect. Shield is weak to laser, armor is weak to missiles (any more?)
so, where do i warp to purchase a new ship, and how do i warp to where i want? Do i type it in somewhere?? |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:30:22 -
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A. Market is accessible from anywhere. where to pick up the item, the station it is sold in.
B. Your "idea" about shield vs laser and armor vs missiles is "wrong"...
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xavier zor2
Abattoir Militia
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:33:23 -
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Well, EVE ships have health, is it split into shield and armor?
The ships i want to buy cost like 90,000,000 ISK...someone said a Venture is a good ship for a noob, i can't find it though |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:39:52 -
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Yes it is spit in shield/armor/structure. No it isnt as black and whjte as you say due to many things (fitting, skills, bonuses, damage types, resistance profiles).
Just type in Venture in the search bar...
And sorry, but what freaking ship are you even looking at. As all I can now already predict is a 90+ mil lossmail waiting to happen....Sit up, crawl, stand, walk and then run. In THAT order.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:46:26 -
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Reserving this post.
I'll have a nice informative post up for the OP after i get home from classes and put myself in a nice chemical haze.
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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:47:42 -
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EVE ships have shield, armor, and hull, and you can install extra shield defenses, or extra armor defenses. Don't install both, install one and maximize it. If the enemy takes out your shield and your armor, and you're at hull damage, you should run; the hull is typically to give you time to run.
EVE ships have different purposes. Venture is more of a mining ship. You can open an icon called ISIS from the menu bar on the left to look at the different ships and how they're classified.
You unlock the ability to fly ships by buying skill (text)books and training them. The skills are in the market, in the Spaceship Command category. You also need to unlock the weapons for each ship, and those skills are in the Gunnery, Missiles, or Drones categories. And you also need to unlock the defensive modules, with skills under Armor, Shields, Targeting, Navigation, Engineering, and so on. Finally, if you want to do industry (mine or build things) or business (trade), there are skills in those categories that unlock things.
You can buy ships from the market, but once you buy them, you have to go to the space station where the seller is, to pick up the ship. You won't be able to fly it unless you have the skills trained. Once you can fly the ship, you can install its weapons and defenses by buying various modules and guns from the market. Again you need the skills to install this stuff. Once you have a ship and it's fitted with guns and defense modules, you can undock from the station and fly it properly.
For orbital bombardment, you need a small combat ship (frigate or destroyer looks like, each race has a version) plus the weapons (each race has its own version of weapons that work well with its ships), and you need to participate in the Faction Warfare PVP system in EVE in order to access the orbital strike menu. Read this thread and this FAQ.
EDIT: The "market" is a button on the bar on the left. It's sort of like an auction house, with categories. You can sort by price, but keep in mind that you have to go pick up whatever you buy, at the station where the seller is (it's listed in the market, along with how many stargate jumps to get there). |
xavier zor2
Abattoir Militia
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:05:55 -
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so....i am thinking a frigate is long out of my reach then
thanks for the help...so if i ever get into a PVP engagement i can warp drive to safety? I hear null-sec is safe, but how do i know if i am in null-sec |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:12:47 -
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xavier zor2 wrote:so....i am thinking a frigate is long out of my reach then
thanks for the help...so if i ever get into a PVP engagement i can warp drive to safety? I hear null-sec is safe, but how do i know if i am in null-sec A typical tech one (T1) frigate simply fit is about 2 million ISK. The hull itself is probably around 250 thousand. |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:13:09 -
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No, actually frigates are the first tier of ships. You already have the skills at character creation. Destroyers are the very next tier, and they use the same small weapons as frigates, only more of them (having more weapons makes your orbital strikes do more damage). You can probably get the skills for ship and the weapons trained within a few hours / couple days.
PVP fights they typically jam your ability to warp to safety and/or destroy you very fast (you're flying the smallest ships, they may fly bigger, or you could be hit by a team of people). The problem is that other EVE pilots can attack you while you're waiting by the planet to help your friends with strikes.
The star system you're in is displayed in the upper left corner of the screen, along with its security rating. High-sec is 1.0 down to 0.5, low sec is 0.4 to 0.1, and null is 0.0. There's also a map on the bar on the left, where you can search for the name of the star system where your friends are, and set a destination there, so you can fly your ship from stargate to stargate following the yellow line. |
xavier zor2
Abattoir Militia
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:18:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:xavier zor2 wrote:so....i am thinking a frigate is long out of my reach then
thanks for the help...so if i ever get into a PVP engagement i can warp drive to safety? I hear null-sec is safe, but how do i know if i am in null-sec A typical tech one (T1) frigate simply fit is about 2 million ISK. The hull itself is probably around 250 thousand.
wow, that's a lot |
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Phig Neutron
Rubicon Cubism
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:19:41 -
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The frigates are the smallest class of ships (except for the rookie ship you started with, and shuttles). You probably started with a few points of the (Caldari) Frigate skill (or another race). The Venture is a frigate specialized for mining.
If you don't have ISK, do the tutorials and you'll get into a few ships and get some money. In fact you should do those even if you have ISK. CCP is trying out a new "new player experience" that has a kind of "achievements" they call opportunities, so maybe there are no tutorials available to you? I'm not sure. Anyway, if you need help in game, ask your corpmates or ask people in Local chat -- those are the people in your current star system.
There are some market hub systems known for low prices and good availability of items. Jita, Amarr, Rens, Hek, and Dodixie are some of the biggest. If you go to the "People & Places" dialog (button looks like a magnifying glass), enter one of those systems, and look at the results. Ignore the characters and corporations, you want the star systems. Right-click the one you want and "Set Destination". Then the stargate you need will be highlighted in yellow on your overview. Warp to it, jump to the next system, and repeat until you get to the market. Dock at the station highlighted in yellow. Access the market. Then use People&Places to find another place to go (such as whatever system your corpmates are operating in?) and go on your way. |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:24:09 -
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High-sec isn't safe, you can get attacked if you're flying an expensive ship or have expensive cargo; it's called suicide ganking, it's worth for the attackers to suicide their ship to kill yours, for the killmail or for the loot.
Low-sec is where a lot of PVP happens, people typically go there to PVP, so it's even less safe. You see pirates, Faction Warfare combat pilots, mercenaries.
Null-sec is free-for-all, there are no restrictions to who can attack you, and no restrictions to bringing big ships (up to capital ships) or having anti-warp bubbles to catch people. Plus, the people living there aren't just passing through; they're organized in defense fleets and will actively hunt you, as well as shoot anything that passes through the stargates leading to their zone.
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Phig Neutron
Rubicon Cubism
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:24:31 -
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"sec" means "security".
High security space is (in a sense) safe because no one can shoot you without losing their ship.
Low security space is less safe. People can shoot you but some weapons are forbidden. If you see yourself in your pod, click on a station or stargate or the sun and spam the "warp to" button... you'll probably get away.
Nullsec or no security space is more dangerous. There are no criminal penalties and all weapons are permitted, including area-of-effect warp disruption spheres which will basically prevent you from getting your pod away from a battlefield if your ship is destroyed. People say nullsec is safe half-seriously, because indeed there are large areas where the locals have made non-aggression pacts with everyone else that lives within a half dozen regions, so they can mine in peace or whatever. |
xavier zor2
Abattoir Militia
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:28:27 -
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Phig Neutron wrote:"sec" means "security".
High security space is (in a sense) safe because no one can shoot you without losing their ship to the police. Think about it and you will realize there may be some cases in which they'll attack someone anyway.
Low security space is less safe. People can shoot you but some weapons are forbidden. If you see yourself in your pod, click on a station or stargate or the sun and spam the "warp to" button... you'll probably get away.
Nullsec or no security space is more dangerous. There are no criminal penalties and all weapons are permitted, including area-of-effect warp disruption spheres which will basically prevent you from getting your pod away from a battlefield if your ship is destroyed. People say nullsec is safe half-seriously, because indeed there are large areas where the locals have made non-aggression pacts with everyone else that lives within a half dozen regions, so they can mine in peace or whatever.
EDIT: TL,DR: you started in highsec and should probably do the tutorials there until you at least know how to pilot your ship. When you have enough money to buy two ships, go ahead and explore lowsec/nullsec with one of them.
well, surely some PVP gang would come along in a battleship/titan and demolish this 'peacekeeping' group to steal loot |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:29:42 -
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For orbital strikes, you're probably looking at a Merlin frigate, or a Cormorant destroyer. Search for their names on the market and right-click then show info, to see their stats. You'll probably want to use small hybrid turrets like the 125mm Rail for the strike weapon, with Orbital Hybrid S for the ammo.
EDIT: Moving large ships into enemy territory isn't easy. The defenders have titans of their own, and the attackers don't really want to commit large forces and expensive ships to kill some measly miner in a back water corner of enemy space, it makes no sense. |
xavier zor2
Abattoir Militia
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:33:45 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:For orbital strikes, you're probably looking at a Merlin frigate, or a Cormorant destroyer. Search for their names on the market and right-click then show info, to see their stats. You'll probably want to use small hybrid turrets like the 125mm Rail for the strike weapon, with Orbital Hybrid S for the ammo.
EDIT: Moving large ships into enemy territory isn't easy. The defenders have titans of their own, and the attackers don't really want to commit large forces and expensive ships to kill some measly miner in a back water corner of enemy space, it makes no sense.
im taking note of this |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2015.03.20 05:37:54 -
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I edited my post above to give some good info and advice.
Also...
xavier zor2 wrote: surely some PVP gang would come along in a battleship/titan and demolish this 'peacekeeping' group to steal loot In EVE, bigger is not always better.
A big battleship or Titan has some sexy stats... but if it doesn't properly prepare itself and/or have friends to support it, it will die (I do cover this in my "SP system" link).
Think death by 1000 papercuts.
There is a massive amount of "meta" going about in EVE. Try not to get too distracted by it for now. Just focus on the essentials (that I covered in my post above).
How did you start?
The SP System
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
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Posted - 2015.03.20 06:19:29 -
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xavier zor2 wrote:Well, EVE ships have health, is it split into shield and armor?
The ships i want to buy cost like 90,000,000 ISK...someone said a Venture is a good ship for a noob, i can't find it though
A venture is a good ship for some purposes.
A Magnate is a better ship for some purposes.
If you're going to be engaging in orbital strikes for DUST514 support, you're going to want to learn about travelling in lowsec to start with. So I would recommend you talk to your local exploration tutorial agent, they will set you up with a Magnate and the equipment required to start exploration. Then head out to lowsec and learn how to avoid losing ships, while probing down relic (and data) site and making lots of ISK :)
Once you're comfortable with traveling around in lowsec, you can start thinking about equipping ships for orbital strikes.
Good luck, and have fun!
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.20 06:21:02 -
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OP you seem to try to be short cutting all the tutorials. I understand you just want to orbital strike. I'm not sure which NPE that you got but they both will give you some type of explanation as to how to warp to a different system and set your auto pilot. There might also be a market tutorial that shows you how to buy something off of the market.
If you spend some time playing around with this and still can't figure it out come back here and ask for help again.
As far as the cost of a frigate or destroyer they really aren't that expensive. If you are having problems figuring out how to make isk we can advise you on that as well.
If you just slow down and work out the basics your questions can be a bit more focused and easier to answer. Right now you are kind of all over the place. |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.03.20 07:53:29 -
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xavier zor2 wrote:so....i am thinking a frigate is long out of my reach then
thanks for the help...so if i ever get into a PVP engagement i can warp drive to safety? I hear null-sec is safe, but how do i know if i am in null-sec
*Shakes head*
Okay, from here on, I just call a troll.
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xavier zor2
Abattoir Militia
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Posted - 2015.03.20 11:11:03 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:OP you seem to try to be short cutting all the tutorials. I understand you just want to orbital strike. I'm not sure which NPE that you got but they both will give you some type of explanation as to how to warp to a different system and set your auto pilot. There might also be a market tutorial that shows you how to buy something off of the market.
If you spend some time playing around with this and still can't figure it out come back here and ask for help again.
As far as the cost of a frigate or destroyer they really aren't that expensive. If you are having problems figuring out how to make isk we can advise you on that as well.
If you just slow down and work out the basics your questions can be a bit more focused and easier to answer. Right now you are kind of all over the place.
so far i know these things;
how to attack, lock onto targets and how to effectively take them on (or what my noob-brain percieves effective; NPC pirate has a blaster, i stay 3-5km away for him and it him with my rail, i take no damage as he is out of his range) how to warp to points, and set locations how to get ****** up by the police how to buy stuff!!! how not to buy stuff how to make ISK awfully slowly |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:57:05 -
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You'll find that EVE is very much a "process game" compared to DUST's "get the gear and go" type thing. Take your time and explore things.
Also... FYI... my corporation once had a guy who joined EVE purely to perform orbital strikes for his DUST team. The man found it... - more boring than he thought: because of travel and wait times
- more difficult than he expected: There is more to this game than "press F1, receive bacon." You have to be vigilant, understand the massive amount of data coming at you at all time, all while finding the target sites you want and not dying in the process.
- more terrifying. There was one time we were supporting this guy doing his orbital strikes (he got to pound the ground, we got a spacefight)... but out intel said a large hostile force was inbound. We bailed and told him to do the same. He refused. 30 seconds later we heard a scream on comms as his destroyer was blobbed by 70 frigates. He said that was was far more terrifying than anything he had seen on DUST.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.20 14:09:04 -
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i actually started out in eve doing exactly what you are now, about two years ago my mates started a feeder corp for dust, the idea was to fund our ground forces and offer orbital strikes.
most of us still play eve, none of us play dust.
i quickly found that eve offers much much more than anything els i had (or have yet) played.
try convince some of your mates to come play, eve is considerably better with friends
welcome aboard anyway
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Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:46:27 -
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xavier zor2 wrote:so....i am thinking a frigate is long out of my reach then Each career agent arc will grant you a free ship on completing their mission set (10 quick missions). They also give out good ISK rewards and teach you the basics of the game. Do them all.
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