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Charity Jim
EVE Charity
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:54:07 -
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Does this increasement have something to do with yesterdays fanfest or is someone playing with prices? I heard that CCP is going to change pos mechanics or something, maybe this is the reason. Anyway I made nice cast with my orders.
I bought Zydrine 381 like 2-3 days ago sold it at 472, now it's 600 and buy orders 523... I bought Megacyte 686 and sold 745, now it's 1023 and buy 860- 950
Please let me know if you know more. |
Warmonger Simon
Wormbro Ocularis Inferno
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Posted - 2015.03.20 10:09:56 -
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Could be speculation due to null ore changes that are coming. |
GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
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Posted - 2015.03.20 10:57:52 -
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I have a thread on this very topic in Science & Trade - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5594827#post5594827
*New* Addition of abundant Nullsec Ore Anomalies at Fanfest 2015
In short, let me quote the lead Dev on the matter.
Quote:"Some forms of ISK making in Nullsec need more help than others; We are ready to announce some changes we are making, specifically for Nullsec Mining --- This is also scheduled for April release
There are a series of changes, which we are incorporating a lot of great ideas that came from CSM miners... The actual change is a Complete Rebuild of Nullsec ORES!
After these changes, the ore prospecting array nullsec anomalies will contain only Nullsec ores, but the Nullsec ores themselves will contain ALL of the minerals you need to build everything you want to build in Nullsec."
The goal here is to build a system that is much more sustainable, that allows people to increase Nullsec self-sufficiency - Allow you to build what you need to build at home."
However, it could also be partly due to stockpiling for the coming Great Eve War III, and partly due to panic buying stemmed from the uncertainty in the above.
After the dust settles, they could potentially crash hard depending on the Sov circumstances.
You may make my wallet flash as a token of Thank You for bringing this information to you.
Regards,
Information Broker & CEO of Redshield Holding Company
P.S. For more information & analysis of what is going to occur in the coming weeks to these price movements, I offer a 450 mil ISK one-time issue newsletter on the matter. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
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Posted - 2015.03.20 11:17:41 -
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So CCP have changed their opinion and no longer believe that nullsec should be forced to import Mexallon from other areas of the game?
This is - interesting.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
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Posted - 2015.03.20 12:04:49 -
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Warmonger Simon wrote:Could be speculation due to null ore changes that are coming. Yea... a buff to them
Akrasjel Lanate
General Director(CEO) of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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virm pasuul
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:35:02 -
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Fozzie also specifically mentioned the price crash of Megacyte and Zydrine. I can't quote exactly but it was in the same time frame as the proper quote above. Within a few minutes either way. His tone was that the low prices were a problem.
It may just have been Fozzie giving two examples of an overall nullsec minerals crash, it was an almost off the cuff comment. It may also have been Fozzie just having some fun, drop the name of two minerals accidentally on purpose and watch the effect for poops and giggles. Anyway that comment and those two minerals got picked up on fast. Within minutes the price on Jita was on it's way up, and shortly later the other hubs joined in.
It may be all null sec minerals will be buffed by CCP in terms of their prices going up, in which case other minerals will also go up. Or it may be Megacyte and Zydrine specifically.
CCP could do a few things.
The new structures could be skewed towards null sec minerals for construction to increase demand for them.
If CCP makes null sec more mining self sufficient, then that reduces the incentive to ship null sec minerals to high sec. e.g. if freighters don't need to visit high sec to buy high sec minerals then they won't be bringing out null sec minerals to make the trip even more profitable. They will only bring out null sec minerals when the market makes the trip worthwhile. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.03.20 23:12:32 -
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INB4 Mr Omniblivion says I told you so.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
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Posted - 2015.03.21 12:21:55 -
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virm pasuul wrote:Fozzie also specifically mentioned the price crash of Megacyte and Zydrine. I can't quote exactly but it was in the same time frame as the proper quote above. Within a few minutes either way. His tone was that the low prices were a problem.
It may just have been Fozzie giving two examples of an overall nullsec minerals crash, it was an almost off the cuff comment. It may also have been Fozzie just having some fun, drop the name of two minerals accidentally on purpose and watch the effect for poops and giggles. Anyway that comment and those two minerals got picked up on fast. Within minutes the price on Jita was on it's way up, and shortly later the other hubs joined in.
It may be all null sec minerals will be buffed by CCP in terms of their prices going up, in which case other minerals will also go up. Or it may be Megacyte and Zydrine specifically.
CCP could do a few things.
The new structures could be skewed towards null sec minerals for construction to increase demand for them.
If CCP makes null sec more mining self sufficient, then that reduces the incentive to ship null sec minerals to high sec. e.g. if freighters don't need to visit high sec to buy high sec minerals then they won't be bringing out null sec minerals to make the trip even more profitable. They will only bring out null sec minerals when the market makes the trip worthwhile.
Someone bought up all the Zydrine upto 600 ISK p/u and Megacyte upto 1k p/u all across Empire yesterday.
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GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
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Posted - 2015.03.21 12:44:17 -
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There has been a sizeable Megacyte jump today in Jita just under 900-930. I expect it to disappear soon.
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Charity Jim
EVE Charity
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Posted - 2015.03.21 17:45:39 -
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Good intel No more Zydrine or Megacyte in that price range ;) |
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GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
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Posted - 2015.03.22 21:02:52 -
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A Zydrine dump 50 million m3 in volume has surfaced in Jita again, priced currently at 583.85. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
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Posted - 2015.03.22 21:59:02 -
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I don't see this ending well for the speculators, but I'm open to being proven wrong.
I forsee a dramatic increase in null mining post sov overhaul and Meg/Zyd will still be the most oversupplied minerals.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
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Posted - 2015.03.22 22:50:59 -
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Indeed. Speculation is very risk-involved.
One simply can't go against market forces, involving cyclical inflection points. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4885
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Posted - 2015.03.23 00:24:39 -
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Edit: My post should not be taken in any way to mean that I don't think there's opportunities to flip Zyd/Mega in the short term. I just think buying for medium term holding is going to go badly.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Ren Oren
ArchTech Logistics and Trading
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Posted - 2015.03.23 03:32:45 -
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I'm starting to see this as "buy the rumor, sell the news" |
GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
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Posted - 2015.03.23 03:43:10 -
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As is ordained by the Almighty, there are always two sides - the Ying & the Yang, the up and the down - to one coin. The concept can apply both ways, however you have to interchange the buy & sell.
Moreso, that would only be the start of the story.
I won't spoil it. |
Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2015.03.24 01:19:00 -
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There is no such thing as the right price, all we know for certain is that the price of Zyd, Meg and to a smaller degree, morph, do not match up well with the general build ratios, this however may be of little concern to CCP.
It seems they're more interested in null sec mining what it needs with out having to ship it. As such, that is where the price would change first. Other mineral price changes would be a secondary manifestation.
Despite all of CCP's efforts however, high sec continues to dominate the production landscape and very likely always will; sans any disastrously draconian measures imposed by CCP.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2015.03.24 09:00:04 -
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GankYou wrote:A Zydrine dump 50 million units in volume has surfaced in Jita again, priced currently at 583.85.
And I'm sure that's the tip of the iceberg. I have Zydrine and Megacyte I bought two years ago.
R.I.P. Vile Rat
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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
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Posted - 2015.03.24 10:48:32 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I don't see this ending well for the speculators, but I'm open to being proven wrong.
I forsee a dramatic increase in null mining post sov overhaul and Meg/Zyd will still be the most oversupplied minerals.
'Stupid is as stupid does'.
I agree that idiots in nullsec flooded the market rather than using one brain cell and rationing out how much they sold. CCP Fozzie is about to make null-sec self-sufficient. The amount of renters in null-sec will increase exponentially resulting again in another massive drop in the price of Zydrine & Megacyte. Then the same whinging null-sec people will start whinging about the prices again.
" They're gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out. "-áRick.
" Find out what ? "-áAbraham.
" They're screwing with the wrong people. "-áRick.
Season four.-á-á ' The Walking Dead. ' .
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GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
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Posted - 2015.03.24 12:16:00 -
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Ioci wrote:GankYou wrote:A Zydrine dump 50 million units in volume has surfaced in Jita again, priced currently at 583.85. And I'm sure that's the tip of the iceberg. I have Zydrine and Megacyte I bought two years ago.
That isn't questioned.
Anyone who's investing, is betting on Eve's bright future, where market distortions are abated, there's major increase in the number of new players along with new peaks in pilot activity.
Eve Great War III is also a major figure in that bet.
A few greater concern for those involved should be directed to the Lower end minerals, as their prices return to historical means in due time. |
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NFain
Drifter Bits
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Posted - 2015.03.26 22:19:10 -
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Speculation Forecast... UP UP AND AWAY! More at 11. |
GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
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Posted - 2015.03.27 03:36:22 -
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P.S. Relevant - http://i.imgur.com/9DzaphC.jpg
Musical.
Chairs.
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GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
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Posted - 2015.03.28 01:05:07 -
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Horses, horses everywhere, and the barn's on fire.
Here's one: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5620390#post5620390 |
Ren Oren
ArchTech Logistics and Trading
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Posted - 2015.03.29 22:50:21 -
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I thought it was a buy the rumor, sell the news, but apparently not, price is strong and I have a ton of the stuff @ 300 and 600 entries
Making bank |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.30 03:30:06 -
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Basically, CCP had created a system that was providing a gigantic surplus of zyd and mega based on the ores available in nullsec. Zyd and Mega were so oversupplied that it caused prices to plummet, and people in null that would be mining ore switched to ice, in many cases. Any change that CCP makes would have to decrease the supply and/or increase the demand of zyd and mega in order to not completely destroy mining in null.
The question isn't whether or not zyd and mega will continue to increase in price- the question is how long will the stockpiles last until we see the true equilibrium post change. If you're looking for long term returns that you can sit on, zyd and mega are the place to find it.
Unless you had a stockpile or picked up a ton at 420/740 (heh) then this won't be a place to make huge profits quickly. I'm bummed that I didn't stock up more at the insanely low prices that they were at- I wasn't actually expecting them to make this change so quickly. |
Morukk Nuamzzar
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2015.04.01 20:47:44 -
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Went up, again Hurry, sell everything nao Profit |
Current Habit
Get LP or Die Trying
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Posted - 2015.04.01 21:21:14 -
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just sayin |
Ren Oren
ArchTech Logistics and Trading
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Posted - 2015.04.01 21:24:32 -
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Morukk Nuamzzar wrote:Went up, again Hurry, sell everything nao Profit
Nope buying dips and holding |
GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
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Posted - 2015.04.01 21:29:14 -
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Sell... Buy Capital Ships?! Sell... Buy... Zydrine?! Sell... Buy... Hold... Mexallon?! Sell... Buy... ANYTHING?!
Too many choises.
I've been to Catch and Stain recently - in my Yacht, of course. The mineral prices in Stain region track Empire's pretty well, but the ones in sovereign outposts and stations in Catch are lagging. Volume in this sov space is very thin, however. |
GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:36:37 -
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Oh, you mean this thread gets attention now, because Zyd is at 1,150 ISK p/u and Megacyte 1.6k?
http://i.imgur.com/88HDwPP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fvHSDO2.jpg
My momma always said: Keep Zyd to Mega ratio at 3.
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