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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.21 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 21/10/2006 15:10:07
Originally by: Nooey Don't be so quick to forget those years of failure.
Oh when the tales of the diaspora are retold to future generations I suspect our name will be remembered Nooey. I'm less convinced that your campaigns of oppression against novice corps and civilian shuttles in Pureblind will be quite as memorable.
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Nooey
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.21 15:32:00 -
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Smirks broadly
Ah, once again with my shuttle kills Jas. And now it's a "campaign of oppression" against them is it?
Erupts into laughter
I can see from such a sophisticated reponse that the correct nerves were struck, the memories you seem all too eager to forget, rightly evoked.
My work here is done.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.21 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nooey I can see from such a sophisticated reponse that the correct nerves were struck, the memories you seem all too eager to forget, rightly evoked.
"Struck" a nerve Nooey? You'll forgive me if I don't take that terribly seriously. After all, unless the "nerve" in question was flying an impairer in novice corp colours I don't suspect your guns would even come close ..
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Nooey
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.21 15:54:00 -
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No I was talking about the years of failure your organization is so keen to forget.
But that's ok...
Keep talking about Rookie ship kills like it actually means something, your second-rate attempts to get under my skin are incredibly amusing.
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Yuki Li
Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.10.21 15:56:00 -
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Quote: Oh when the tales of the diaspora are retold to future generations I suspect our name will be remembered Nooey. I'm less convinced that your campaigns of oppression against novice corps and civilian shuttles in Pureblind will be quite as memorable.
How easily you disregard the alliances we've hit, and even the Star Fraction fleets i used to lead.
Your ideology went to trash with this war, this isn't what Star Fraction was ever designed to be. You've changed your stripes to save your name, and your pilot count, and instead you've truly buried your name.
I'll be sure to leave some flowers by your reputations headstone when i'm passing through.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.21 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nooey Keep talking about Rookie ship kills like it actually means something, your second-rate attempts to get under my skin are incredibly amusing.
I thought your "work" here was done. Departure is a simple act, you put the one foot before the other and keep walking.
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Nooey
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.21 16:04:00 -
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I'd stop replying, but watching you descend to new levels of pettiness with every one of my replies is simply too good an opportunity to pass up.
Tries to stifle a laugh and fails
No, really, I actually think I'm done now. Thanks for the entertainment and keep what I said in mind, wont you dear.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.21 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nooey I'd stop replying, but watching you descend to new levels of pettiness with every one of my replies is simply too good an opportunity to pass up.
Nooey when you say something worthy of a considered response you'll probably get one. Until then you aren't really revelent to this topic.
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Naphtalia
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.10.21 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Yuki Li said something
Naphtalia looks very annoyed, and writes something down on a electronic pad...
Then she looks up and says send one of our undercover agents to purchase some of those Gilead Bullet riffles...
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Strikeclone
Caldari Starscreamers
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Posted - 2006.10.21 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Yuki Li
Your ideology went to trash with this war, this isn't what Star Fraction was ever designed to be. You've changed your stripes to save your name, and your pilot count, and instead you've truly buried your name.
I'll be sure to leave some flowers by your reputations headstone when i'm passing through.
Well said.
Its a shame that its true though, dispite our ups and down I always had the greatest respect for JF/SF for daring to be different and having the balls to stand up for it.
Oh how the mighty have fallen
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.21 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 21/10/2006 17:22:41
Originally by: Strikeclone
Originally by: Yuki Li
Your ideology went to trash with this war, this isn't what Star Fraction was ever designed to be. You've changed your stripes to save your name, and your pilot count, and instead you've truly buried your name.
I'll be sure to leave some flowers by your reputations headstone when i'm passing through.
Well said.
Its a shame that its true though, dispite our ups and down I always had the greatest respect for JF/SF for daring to be different and having the balls to stand up for it.
Oh how the mighty have fallen
I am hearing this line of complaint a lot recently from some quarters and wondering if its the latest line in pro Kimotoro propaganda. Somehow you seem to be suggesting that for Star Fraction (a radical anti-government freespacer organisation with an agenda to topple the territorial influence in the capsular community) to actually attack the minions of a territorial memetics and collectivist submission in space is a betrayal of our core ideals. What absolute and total rot.
The conclusion I come to is that it was okay for us to attack the CVA as Amarri capsular militia forces while you flew in various shades beneath our name. But now its the State's turn you are the people ditching your precious ethics and crying foul now the war has come closer to home.
I'm not surprised but it is apparent that the hypocrisy is strong in those who have supported the Star Fraction in other wars against other statist entities quite happily but now decry the continuation of that policy for private and venal motives.
As rhetorical flourish this approach is poor. Yuki Li you should know better than to try our patience in the field of propaganda. If you have strong feelings in this regard you know you will find us in space.
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Atandros
Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.21 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Nooey
Don't be so quick to forget those years of failure.
You'll be back amongst them soon.
You're still firmly mired in them.
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Strikeclone
Caldari Starscreamers
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Posted - 2006.10.21 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 21/10/2006 17:22:41
Originally by: Strikeclone
Originally by: Yuki Li
Your ideology went to trash with this war, this isn't what Star Fraction was ever designed to be. You've changed your stripes to save your name, and your pilot count, and instead you've truly buried your name.
I'll be sure to leave some flowers by your reputations headstone when i'm passing through.
Well said.
Its a shame that its true though, dispite our ups and down I always had the greatest respect for JF/SF for daring to be different and having the balls to stand up for it.
Oh how the mighty have fallen
I am hearing this line of complaint a lot recently from some quarters and wondering if its the latest line in pro Kimotoro propaganda. Somehow you seem to be suggesting that for Star Fraction (a radical anti-government freespacer organisation with an agenda to topple the territorial influence in the capsular community) to actually attack the minions of a territorial memetics and collectivist submission in space is a betrayal of our core ideals. What absolute and total rot.
The conclusion I come to is that it was okay for us to attack the CVA as Amarri capsular militia forces while you flew in various shades beneath our name. But now its the State's turn you are the people ditching your precious ethics and crying foul now the war has come closer to home.
I'm not surprised but it is apparent that the hypocrisy is strong in those who have supported the Star Fraction in other wars against other statist entities quite happily but now decry the continuation of that policy for private and venal motives.
As rhetorical flourish this approach is poor. Yuki Li you should know better than to try our patience in the field of propaganda. If you have strong feelings in this regard you know you will find us in space.
I love how you can turn a four sentence show of regret for people once considered friends and war allies into a four paragraph diatribe. I am further amazed that you managed to extrapolate the wildist of things from thin air. But I should remember that you lot was always good at talking a good talk and no doubt those who read your words take them for all they are worth.
And yes I will see you in space I shall wave as I go buy protected by the laws and forces you hate so much Unless of course you wish to spend many millions bribing the right people to allow you to try to liberate me from my imperialist, capitalist, tyrannical State shakles.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.21 20:11:00 -
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So you are going to fight us by ... not fighting us? How very surrealist of you.
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Strikeclone
Caldari Starscreamers
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Posted - 2006.10.21 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
So you are going to fight us by ... not fighting us? How very surrealist of you.
I ask you to quote if you can any post where I have declared my intent to attack SF.
Once you get over you vast ego, I refer you to my announcement for clarification of the simple concept you just don't seem to comprehend Strikeclone "Peace through the application of superiour firepower" Starscreamers HQ |
Tatsue Nuko
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.21 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Yuki Li How easily you disregard the alliances we've hit, and even the Star Fraction fleets i used to lead.
Your ideology went to trash with this war, this isn't what Star Fraction was ever designed to be. You've changed your stripes to save your name, and your pilot count, and instead you've truly buried your name.
So you used to lead some Star Fraction fleets in action against CVA, turn to petty murderers and brigands, and have the nerve to say that our ideology "went to trash"?
Seriously, Yuki, do you and yours not see how hilariously stupid that is? Do you and Nooey really want to talk about failures when you are the ones that have given up and reduced yourselves to common pirates devoid of any goal or agenda but the blood of innocents?
Poor show. Very poor show.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.10.21 20:51:00 -
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Those words sound familiar Tatsue. Wow, I would have never guessed you would try to grab the moral high ground in this thread! And oh how you're flailing...
Seriously, all of you. Shut the hell up.
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Nooey
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.21 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Atandros hysterically tossing dirt
Erupts into laughter again
Ah now, my dear Atandros. I think you're confusing me being in hysterics, with me being hysterical. A common mistake for a common intellect.
Winks with a grin
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Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.21 21:40:00 -
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Interesting how this thread turned into a series of personal insults and accusations. Point of this message was that PezCo accepted The Star Fraction terms and agreed not to assist KD in return for cease fire.
Obviously some are not happy how the conflict is going, which is not surprising. However, this is not about proving whose ideolgy has more merit or whose morals are higher. This is about war. We are about to crash Kimotoro Directive because (in my eyes) they are the link between imperialistic ways of Caldari State and the capsuleer community. They carry the disease and have to be put down or cured.
I, as part of Jericho Fraction, claim no high ground. War is a bloody business, but it does not discourage or stop me from doing what I think is right. We are at the point where words proved to be ineffective and guns opened up. The only way to do something about this conflict is to take active part in it, not just run your mouth.
Tecam Hund
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Selim
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.21 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: Selim on 21/10/2006 22:44:46 * Selim laughs.
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Strikeclone
Caldari Starscreamers
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Posted - 2006.10.21 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: Strikeclone on 21/10/2006 23:11:36 *deleted*
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Yuki Li
Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.10.22 01:23:00 -
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Quote: We are at the point where words proved to be ineffective and guns opened up. The only way to do something about this conflict is to take active part in it, not just run your mouth.
You didn't try words at all, you just went ahead and attacked them without due cause. Considering Star Fraction was supposed to encourage free trade, it's pretty ironic that they're here shooting at supporters of the Caldari State, who don't oppose free trade.
Star Fraction saw a target they could actually beat and went for it. And no cries of "BUT YOU SHOOT VELATORS IN 0.0" are going to change that.
If a Kimotoro Directive pilot showed up in an ibis, you'd shoot him. And this war sure as hell is no more honourable than an NBSI policy in nullsec
Also: crying "fine wardec us if you don't like it" is pretty childish. The crap you've been coming out with recently echoes the alliances you claim to hate in 0.0, the ones that actually close borders, that you're not shooting, because Kimotoro are a softer targets.
Still, keep spinning it, Star Fraction. One day, someone somewhere might believe you actually have an ounce of worth left in you. Sadly, i'm pretty positive everyone observing this war can see right through your crap.
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Tatsue Nuko
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.22 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 22/10/2006 01:30:59
Originally by: Yuki Li Considering Star Fraction was supposed to encourage free trade, it's pretty ironic that they're here shooting at supporters of the Caldari State, who don't oppose free trade.
If you believe Free Trade is the major point of Star Fraction, you are quite mistaken. Free Trade is one of many consequences of Posthumanism and the possibilities created by the advent of capsule integration. In the greater scheme of things however, free trade is a very minor component.
As previously stated, you have made it clear you don't quite understand what we're about. That would be fair enough, if you would just have the courtesy to not pretend that you do.
Minor addendum: if you want to be educated on the finer points of Posthumanism, I can meet you in some private locale at your convenience for a discussion.
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Wrayeth
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.22 01:33:00 -
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Much respect to PezCo for bringing the fight during the war. Despite heavy losses, they continued to form the core of every Mito gang we encountered and were pretty much the only folks flying ships with any real combat power on their side.
Despite the fact that this topic on GalNet has turned into a massive flame war, I just wanted to pass along my best wishes for the PezCo folks in their next endeavor. -Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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Yuki Li
Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.10.22 02:09:00 -
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Quote: If you believe Free Trade is the major point of Star Fraction, you are quite mistaken.
was. I was there. Smashing the Caldari State had sod all to do with it. And as for the CVA war, completely god damn irrelevent, we didn't wardec CVA to destroy the Amarr Empire, we did it over some special slaves, if i remember correctly.
Nice attempt at word weaving, but, a load of crap as usual.
Quote: As previously stated, you have made it clear you don't quite understand what we're about. That would be fair enough, if you would just have the courtesy to not pretend that you do.
It'd be easier to keep track if you didn't change the record to justify your every conflict. "What Star Fraction is about" is no longer worth a damn, because all you're about is your own survival, and self-justification for the methods of doing so.
Quote: Minor addendum: if you want to be educated on the finer points of Posthumanism, I can meet you in some private locale at your convenience for a discussion.
Sounds about as much fun as self harm. Thanks for the offer, though, Tats.
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Tatsue Nuko
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.22 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Yuki Li was. I was there. Smashing the Caldari State had sod all to do with it.
Was the reason you and I decided to bring Omerta into Star Fraction, perhaps, yes. At the time I saw that as useful to the State and that was my reasoning.
Doesn't change what Star Fraction is about though, nor does it change anything about Posthumanism or the fact that Star Fraction is a Posthumanist alliance.
Originally by: Yuki Li And as for the CVA war, completely god damn irrelevent, we didn't wardec CVA to destroy the Amarr Empire, we did it over some special slaves, if i remember correctly.
We gained a casus belli through using the Mamet 500 as a symbol. In the end however, we opposed and continue to oppose CVA because they were and are spreading imperialist ideas and thought patterns.
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Strikeclone
Caldari Starscreamers
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Posted - 2006.10.22 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Strikeclone on 22/10/2006 03:28:31
Originally by: Wrayeth Much respect to PezCo for bringing the fight during the war. Despite heavy losses, they continued to form the core of every Mito gang we encountered and were pretty much the only folks flying ships with any real combat power on their side.
Despite the fact that this topic on GalNet has turned into a massive flame war, I just wanted to pass along my best wishes for the PezCo folks in their next endeavor.
No offense to you personally Wrayeth, but is anyone else getting sick and tired of the blatant hypocrisy of statements like this.
Yesterday it was "die imperialist pigdog, rhetoric, rhetoric, rhetoric, die, die, rhetoric, rhetoric"
Today its "well fought imperialist pigdog, back slap, lick, lick, respects, lick, backslap"
Tomorrow its "die imperialist pigdog, haha we are here to destroy everything you hold dear, every rule and law makes you civilized, prepare to cast adrift in a realm of endless piracy and rampant fighting as we destroy you nations and your homes. You didn't think we had forgotten you pigdig?"
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Wrayeth
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.22 07:53:00 -
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Edited by: Wrayeth on 22/10/2006 10:48:20
Quote: Strikeclone, you seem to have missed the point. Just because we disagree with someone's associtions doesn't mean we can't respect their courage. Now that they are no longer supporting the State and its minions, we have no grudge against them and wish them well.
I don't know how to make that any more clear.
That was me. Sometimes having fake identities can be a pain, especially when you're not paying attention. -Wrayeth
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.22 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Strikeclone No offense to you personally Wrayeth, but is anyone else getting sick and tired of the blatant hypocrisy of statements like this. Yesterday it was "die imperialist pigdog, rhetoric, rhetoric, rhetoric, die, die, rhetoric, rhetoric" Today its "well fought imperialist pigdog, back slap, lick, lick, respects, lick, backslap"
We want capsule pilots to be free of legacy territorial concepts and nationalist delusion. We want a free and independent posthuman culture that isn't controlled by baseline hierarchy and statist fanatics. Our enemy is the idea that such things are "natural" and "proper". Once we win the argument the pilots who previously fought on the other side cease being targets and can be friends and trading partners or simple neutrals once again.
Quote: Tomorrow its "die imperialist pigdog, haha we are here to destroy everything you hold dear, every rule and law makes you civilized, prepare to cast adrift in a realm of endless piracy and rampant fighting as we destroy you nations and your homes. You didn't think we had forgotten you pigdig?"
Is the concept that we can fight for an idea without becoming consumed by stupid animal hate to the exclusion of all else so alien to you?
Quote: You hate us and everything you stand for, so when you force someone out of the fight I fail to see the honour you are trying to show by congratulating your opponent. You want to crap on everything they have and everything they are and everything they choose to be. don't then pretend that you won't get around to finishing them off at a later date.
I think pity is a better word in your case Strikeclone. But you miss the point once again. We are showing these people the fallacy of their current belief systems and faith in outdated territorial memetics. Once that demonstration is complete and minds are changed there is no further motive for hostility let alone hate. We don't hate people we hate bad systems and regressive ideas. People are just victims of their environment and past societal conditioning.
Quote: Isn't that the final goal of you warped philosophy? "We shall form a community of pod pilots determined to destroy the evils of pod pilot communities because they are bad...and naughty...and...evil. Only once we have destroyed your community with out community will you be free of your evil community and be free to choose your own path free of that evil community that restricted you to making your own choices.....errr...."
Ummmm no. I risk stating the obvious here but you clearly understand nothing.
Quote: Just fight and kill as your boredom dictates you must, but leave the fake honour and resepect out of it. You haven't the right.
I'll do whatever I please. It'll take more than your words to influence my actions in this regard.
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Strikeclone
Caldari Starscreamers
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Posted - 2006.10.23 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
I'll do whatever I please. It'll take more than your words to influence my actions in this regard.
Likewise terrorist, likewise.
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