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Baba Yagah
new order logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2015.03.30 04:20:00 -
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Specia1 K wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:And on the topic of the thread, I like the name. If it were only for the reason that it gives me the opportunity to kill*) the namesake of the flocks of little buggers that keep pestering our backyard in the summer. Irl, I do not like Jackdaws.... *) In-game, preferably in droves... Fair enough, I can see why the name is appropriate to some Where I live it is Magpies or Crows that drive ppl crazy. Like at 5am when they squawk outside your window, then proceed to rummage through your trash, and finally leave a nice mess all over your car...
haha yeah! im in BC Canada and the magpies are terrible! little jerks will even come into your house to eat petfood |
Shaampoo
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.30 05:01:20 -
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Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow." Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens. So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know? |
Baba Yagah
new order logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2015.03.30 05:38:01 -
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forget all this 'science' talk....
CALDARI VIPER!!!! change it CCP!!!!! |
Talvorian Dex
Repercussus Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.31 20:12:29 -
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Specia1 K wrote:Oohboy, the name is seriously underwhelming. Couldn't you have called it the SHRIKE, or TERCEL, or even the Peregrine? Lookout, its muh Jackdaw... Edit: After looking at the photo posted in the other thread on the new ships, I think of STORK TL:DR Suggested names in this thread: Kingfisher Dickcissel Blackcock Drongo Warbler Barbet Lark Skua (aka Jaeger) Seagull (honorary) Strix Swift Snipe Corvus Magpie Peacock Bluetit Dvergkr+íka Shag Tit Grackle KILLDOZER!!! (must be allcaps and have exclamations) Petrel Jackdaw (for Ezwal, and others who still like the name)
Jackdaw was the name of the ship in Assassin's Creed IV. I'd love nothing more than to change the name.
Besides, why would the Caldari name their ships for fluffy birds? Hardly something to strike fear into the hears of others. The Amarr, I get... all religious. But... birds? And not even birds of prey?
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
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Posted - 2015.03.31 21:04:22 -
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Talvorian Dex wrote: Besides, why would the Caldari name their ships for fluffy birds? Hardly something to strike fear into the hears of others. The Amarr, I get... all religious. But... birds? And not even birds of prey?
it's a cruel CCP inside joke
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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
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Posted - 2015.03.31 21:12:27 -
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Baba Yagah wrote:Specia1 K wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:And on the topic of the thread, I like the name. If it were only for the reason that it gives me the opportunity to kill*) the namesake of the flocks of little buggers that keep pestering our backyard in the summer. Irl, I do not like Jackdaws.... *) In-game, preferably in droves... Fair enough, I can see why the name is appropriate to some Where I live it is Magpies or Crows that drive ppl crazy. Like at 5am when they squawk outside your window, then proceed to rummage through your trash, and finally leave a nice mess all over your car... haha yeah! im in BC Canada and the magpies are terrible! little jerks will even come into your house to eat petfood! but honestly, the other tactical destroyers get decent names, then caldari the proud and powerful mega-corp, names their highest ranking DESTROYER the .... jackdaw? jesus! each one might as well come with a complimentary tin of chew, bucked teeth, a t-shirt tan, and a piece of straw
Chew doesn't come in tins. That is dip or snuff. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2015.03.31 23:25:21 -
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Look, those "change a spare tire" car-jacks in our cars were the inspiration for the Jackdaw. Calling it the Jackdaw was the cherry on top, with resultant tears being farmed by CCP's "art" department.
Some folks grief miners. Some folks grief CCP. The CCP art department griefs everyone.
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Qinby
ImNo6
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Posted - 2015.04.06 20:20:38 -
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Hi Havnt read your comments about this and if the name is stupid or not or if its consistent since its a bird and among the smarter ones.
Have anybody googled Jackdaw?
It-¿s a ship in assasins creed lore....
Got nothing against the name BUT I MUST BE A "BRAIN FART" to name the ship the same as an assasins creed ship....
You google it and end up with that ...
Only a Point and comming from me propably a good and valid one :)
Why not go for "Millenium Falcon" that-¿s a bird to?
Happy Eastern
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.06 20:23:04 -
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So Jackdaw got invented by the creators of AC?
There couldn't possibly be any older mentioning of it, rendering any connectio to AC completely irrelevant? :/
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Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.06 20:40:16 -
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Who cares what its named? Name yours whatever the **** you want. The end. |
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.06 21:01:30 -
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Jawdead or Deadjaw |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2015.04.07 01:36:12 -
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Snipe or Shrike.
My votes.
...or Exocet (not a bird, but a "flying fish" is close enough in my eyes and it's a French anti-ship missile)
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.04.07 02:02:53 -
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Paridae
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Olivia Moon
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.07 09:10:10 -
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I don't understand why the jackdaw doesn't look like a jackdaw? Or put it in this way, a jackdaw looks like a cell phone tower?!
I like Caldari's naming using bird names. But why the name and appearance do not resemble?
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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2015.04.07 09:29:15 -
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Dnt call it Shrike. Dumbass name, not all ships have to sound horrifying or menacing. Also if it doesnt fit with caldari, why does the Scorpion exist (or is it actually a name of a bird too!?!?) |
Faraboot
BALKAN EXPRESS Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2015.04.07 10:08:27 -
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Been around for ages, never thought to look closely to the naming of ships, spec. Caldari ones As somebody already stated, lots of them are named after birds - rook, raven, blackbird, corax.. So, since we all like to discus all things eve related, here are my two cents on matter.
Personally I don't like Jackdaw name for a ship, even Shrike looks better although I don't like that one too it just doesn't feels Caldari-sh, or even Eve-ish for that matter, but I can understand where CCP are coming from with this, a quick look on the Wikipedia - Quote:Corvidae is a cosmopolitan family of oscine passerine birds that contains the crows, ravens, rooks, jackdaws, jays, magpies, treepies, choughs and nutcrackers.[1][2][3] In common English they are known as the crow family, or, more technically, corvids. There are over 120 species. The genus Corvus, including the jackdaws, crows and ravens, makes up over a third of the entire family. So to keep in with CCP general idea regarding some of the Caldari ships, and their desire to name another ship like a bird from Corvidae family, here's a couple of Corvus species who's names are somewhat better suited imho: Enca - Corvus enca - Slender-billed crow Kubaryi - Corvus kubaryi - Mariana crow Meeki - Corvus meeki - Bougainville crow Orru - Corvus orru - Torresian crow However, not all Caldari ships are named after birds (Scorpion, Badger, Basilisk,..) but we can safely assume that at least it has to be named after an animal, mystic (Phoenix, Rokh,..) or not (Moa).
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Baba Yagah
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2015.04.07 12:05:58 -
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Buhhdust Princess wrote:Dnt call it Shrike. Dumbass name, not all ships have to sound horrifying or menacing. Also if it doesnt fit with caldari, why does the Scorpion exist (or is it actually a name of a bird too!?!?)
Golem, Widow, Ferox, Naga, Kitsune, Badger, Tayra, Rokh, Scorpion, Leviathan, Cerberus, Onyx, Basilisk, Caracal, Manticore
Im sure there may be some I missed or messed up on, but there seems to be a slight few 'Birdless' names for caldari, so the bird argument is invalid imo. |
Samwise Everquest
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps Forsaken Asylum
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Posted - 2015.04.07 13:22:47 -
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Who cares, only weirdos fly Caldari.
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.07 13:25:02 -
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b b b b bird bird bird... ... bird is the word...
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.04.07 13:36:32 -
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Samwise Everquest wrote:Who cares, only weirdos fly Caldari. No too long ago any time I wanted to talk about shield fits for Minmatar all people would repond along the lines with, "Fly a Drake then train for a Tengu."
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2015.04.07 14:09:36 -
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Baba Yagah wrote:Buhhdust Princess wrote:Dnt call it Shrike. Dumbass name, not all ships have to sound horrifying or menacing. Also if it doesnt fit with caldari, why does the Scorpion exist (or is it actually a name of a bird too!?!?) Golem, Widow, Ferox, Naga, Kitsune, Badger, Tayra, Rokh, Scorpion, Leviathan, Cerberus, Onyx, Basilisk, Caracal, Manticore Im sure there may be some I missed or messed up on, but there seems to be a slight few 'Birdless' names for caldari, so the bird argument is invalid imo. I hate to break it to you but the Rokh is actually a mythical bird (also spelt Roc or Rukh), other than that you're right, the rest aren't birds.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.04.07 15:04:39 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Baba Yagah wrote:Buhhdust Princess wrote:Dnt call it Shrike. Dumbass name, not all ships have to sound horrifying or menacing. Also if it doesnt fit with caldari, why does the Scorpion exist (or is it actually a name of a bird too!?!?) Golem, Widow, Ferox, Naga, Kitsune, Badger, Tayra, Rokh, Scorpion, Leviathan, Cerberus, Onyx, Basilisk, Caracal, Manticore Im sure there may be some I missed or messed up on, but there seems to be a slight few 'Birdless' names for caldari, so the bird argument is invalid imo. I hate to break it to you but the Rokh is actually a mythical bird (also spelt Roc or Rukh), other than that you're right, the rest aren't birds. There are Onyx birdfeeders (brand name I think though) There is also a Widowbird and sometimes the Coal Tit is called the Badger Bird
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow.
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Johnnie Miles
Immortalis Fratres Vacui Legio immortales CXCI
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Posted - 2015.04.13 00:23:34 -
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+1 Jackdaw |
Garmyne Atavuli
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.04.13 01:02:21 -
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Jackdaw just don't sound right, it sounds weak and limp-wristed. I do see the link as it a bird from the Crow family, but what about it's real name? 'Corvus monedula'
Corvus keeps the link and just plain sound better... imho. |
VaL Iscariot
The Noble House.
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Posted - 2015.04.13 06:57:56 -
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name it Robin so you can fly it with fleets of... bantams. Bantams and Tobins. Bantam and Robin. BATMAN AND ROBIN!! |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.13 08:07:29 -
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Harrison Tato wrote:It has to be the most repeated word on Reddit in the last 6 months. I blame that.
That would be a toss up between salty and dank.
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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
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Posted - 2015.04.13 10:01:41 -
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And Corax which is the latin/scientific name for Raven.
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Marius Fett
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.21 07:07:00 -
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Thorin Lidar wrote:I would have to agree. The Jackdaw does not sound menacing at all.
" SHRIKE " goes along with following bird names, and sounds like a vicious menacing bird...
+1 for SHRIKE!
Well, Like most Caldari ships, it will most likely be slower than other ships in its weight class, over tanked, and have a vastly excessive focus on Kinetic Missiles, so it probably shouldn't have a menacing name.
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Mithandra
Catastrophic Operations Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2015.04.21 08:51:22 -
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" An omnivorous and opportunistic feeder"
Dunno. Sounds about right to me
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Maxpie
MUSE Buy-n-Large Metaphysical Utopian Society Enterprises
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Posted - 2015.04.21 22:24:36 -
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I'd go with Nuthatch Vanga
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