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CCP Ytterbium
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.23 11:32:17 -
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Hello people,
We would like your feedback on the various new structure lines presented during Fanfest and on our latest structure blog.
This particular thread is going to focus on market hubs and drilling platforms.
- Market hubs focus on trade, office, player to player cloning service, ship insurance, character customization services
- Drilling platforms focus on resource harvesting, mainly with reprocessing, moon harvesting, reactions, mining, gas harvesting, or new harvesting mechanics.
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elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
596
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Posted - 2015.03.23 11:43:37 -
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Do you plan to release bigger gas clouds that come with or for it to make booster pills easier to make and harvesting gases in known and wormhole space easier?
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Dunamis55
Pink Fluffy Bunny Slippers Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2015.03.23 11:54:07 -
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I'm assuming that Market hubs are just that: ways to operate a trade hub directly out of a player structure, much like how outposts currently work in sov null.
The blog currently details Office Headquarters as the only structure with Infinite cargo space at the moment though. Does this means that should I wish to list sell or buy orders via the market, I need to be docked at an XL sized structure? Or, will it be possible for players without the capabilities of XL structure construction (like solo or small groups) to be able to operate their own small market hub through the use of smaller structures? If so, how will this relate to structures' finite cargo sizes?
Also, for all sizes of structures, should the structure itself be destroyed, how then will items that are currently listed on the market act? Will the order be cancelled and the items be contained within the wrecks automatically? |
Enta en Bauldry
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.03.23 11:58:47 -
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Just want to note that a functioning market structure that can be configured for corp/alliance only AND works in W-Space would get rid of a major headache for me and quite a few people I fly with.
How it's to be implemented I don't know but as longs as you can do something along the lines of;
Buy Trimark Armor Pump II in Jita Bring it into JXXXXXX system, drop it into market structure (or something like a PHA?) Place an order for it in system, only visible to corp (perhaps even specific title!) Different player buys item and takes it out of the structure, fits it to their ship
I'm looking forward to the first public drafts. |
Somatic Neuron
Masterwork Productions Inc
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Posted - 2015.03.23 11:59:49 -
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Would be nice if we could actually get some sort of mission service in our new structures. |
Somatic Neuron
Masterwork Productions Inc
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Posted - 2015.03.23 12:01:43 -
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Would the drilling platform, or some other sort of platform structure, be able to replace Planetary Interaction, please? Currently there is no way to get rid of people that are squatting on planets that you want for your own use |
Dunamis55
Pink Fluffy Bunny Slippers Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2015.03.23 12:25:32 -
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Another thing I thought of: as Outposts evolve into the new XL structures,does this mean that moon reactions will be able to be performed within an XL structure instead of, as it currently is, being confined to a POS? |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
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Posted - 2015.03.23 12:26:16 -
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Somatic Neuron wrote:Would the drilling platform, or some other sort of platform structure, be able to replace Planetary Interaction, please? Currently there is no way to get rid of people that are squatting on planets that you want for your own use
You watch for them coming in to system and kill them when they try to gather the goodies, do it enough times and they'll go away.
Ed: to be clear I would prefer that all resources are available to everyone without them being fenced of as private by a structure being in place. Moon mining ships would be my choice for instance, but with the moon mining structures giving large boosts to corp members. then anyone can mine a moon that they find but those controling the space it is in will gain much more benefits. this would open up ninja mining in a prospector varient (for instance) as a possibilty for smaller groups/solo players and hopefully put more pilots in space. |
Ulrik Elristan
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.03.23 12:30:33 -
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This question kindof applies to all the new structures. Do you intend on having markets/stations/arrays/etc. of all the sizes (except maybe the S ones) or have some of those limited to some sizes, and if so, are markets intended as XL only ?
When you tell us of mining/gas harvesting, do you mean to have structures actually harvesting, or merely buffing system wide similarly to the current Orca and Rorqual ? If yes, are Orca/Rorqual boosts to become irrelevant ? (yes, I know you already brushed over the rorqual :P )
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.23 12:30:56 -
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The idea of "passive" mining structures is very intriguing. Will drilling platforms be able to be parked in an asteroid belt (or even a mining anomaly) and be able to mine autonomously, or will doing so require human interaction throughout the process?
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1014
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Posted - 2015.03.23 12:42:18 -
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Querns wrote:The idea of "passive" mining structures is very intriguing. Will drilling platforms be able to be parked in an asteroid belt (or even a mining anomaly) and be able to mine autonomously, or will doing so require human interaction throughout the process?
Perhaps a balance between low yield if unattended and higher yield if a pilot is docked and controlling the process. This would allow a pilot to control defensive measures too potentially. |
fluffy jo
Universal Exports
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Posted - 2015.03.23 12:44:44 -
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Love the new structure idea.
Coming from a POS industry point of view.
I am not looking forward to having wasted 3-4 yearsGÇÖ worth of research on the existing POS gun turrets, missiles, ecm , shield hardeners and warp / web modules and redoing it all with any new structure modules.
Is it possible for CCP to think about reusing the current POS gun turrets, missiles, ecm , shield hardeners and warp / web modules as the new modules to be used in the new Structure fitting process.
The material can be changed as needed.
This will save refunding all the blueprints, and all the existing modules, for all the existing POS guns / missiles etc.
This will also save pilots from having to buy all the new blueprints for the new structure modules and spending time researching them.
I accept the fact that the existing POS tower blueprint and modules will be removed and replaced with all new structure, but to minimise the transition it would be nice to reuse as many existing POS modules as possible.
Cheers
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
237
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Posted - 2015.03.23 12:59:40 -
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Question about NPC convoys. How would they work? If i send cargo on Jita-Amarr route will they be visible all the time on gates? Can they be escorted? What is the cost % cargo/shipment?
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.03.23 13:09:05 -
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Will the ability for abandonned drones to return to the market hub be limited to the market hub's grid?
Will this ability only involve allied drones? Or could we be allowed to use this offensively? Againt an opponent using abandonned sentrys in ishtars, or abandonned light decloak drones, for instance.
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Elenahina
agony unleashed Agony Empire
272
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Posted - 2015.03.23 13:21:19 -
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Somatic Neuron wrote:Would be nice if we could actually get some sort of mission service in our new structures.
This would go a very long way to making null more self sustainable, and allowing alliances to withdraw from space they only hold so their members can generate ISK.
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1014
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Posted - 2015.03.23 13:32:47 -
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Elenahina wrote:Somatic Neuron wrote:Would be nice if we could actually get some sort of mission service in our new structures. This would go a very long way to making null more self sustainable, and allowing alliances to withdraw from space they only hold so their members can generate ISK.
I don't think any area of space should ever be self sustainable as this would simply devolve into stagnant areas where pilots rarely fly from/to.If anything I think that there should be more interdependancy between the regions to promote co-operation between groups in hisec/losec/null/WH at least on a trade basis. From this pilots will make contacts in other regions and are then more likely to go visit them if a 'friendly' will escort them in. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
596
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Posted - 2015.03.23 13:41:13 -
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Elenahina wrote:Somatic Neuron wrote:Would be nice if we could actually get some sort of mission service in our new structures. This would go a very long way to making null more self sustainable, and allowing alliances to withdraw from space they only hold so their members can generate ISK.
But this isk generation is bad for EVE.
And if you think about it, you don't need any isk in your space - only time.
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ChromeStriker
Out of Focus Odin's Call
859
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Posted - 2015.03.23 13:54:03 -
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Let us unanchor the drilling platform (really slowly) and fly/warp it (very slowly) to new belts/ anoms...
(It was said we could anchor them anywhere... so at a belt makes sense right?)
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Thoren Vaille
American Federation of Musicians Local 148-462
12
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Posted - 2015.03.23 14:07:22 -
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Querns wrote:The idea of "passive" mining structures is very intriguing. Will drilling platforms be able to be parked in an asteroid belt (or even a mining anomaly) and be able to mine autonomously, or will doing so require human interaction throughout the process?
Passive mining isn't really how I read this. I think it's more likely they will follow through with the idea of structures driving content that can be mined. Like when a belt out in HS is mined out, you are able to anchor a structure that breaks down a larger body into mineable resources.
Note that in last year's keynote, CCP mentioned that they want EVERYTHING in EVE to turn over to the players; if it can be built, it can be destroyed. We're venturing into the realm of potentially "building" asteroid and gas fields. Amazing, really. |
Samsara Toldya
Academy of Contradictory Behaviour
265
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Posted - 2015.03.23 14:25:44 -
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Market Hub...
Jita might stay "no structures allowed!", but a ranged buy-order (2 jumps) placed in Jita with 788 playerdriven market hubs in Perimeter and another 531 in New Caldari might be annoying as hell if you have to collect what you bought in every single market hub.
Will there be hard limits like "1 market hub per system"?
EDIT: As they'll replace POCO and there won't be a anchoring spot needed: multiple POCO for a single planet possible? |
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Iroquoiss Pliskin
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.23 14:32:37 -
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I want to be able to set & collect taxes on any market transaction in my market hub.
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Milton Middleson
Scrap Metal Squadron
563
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Posted - 2015.03.23 14:42:37 -
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Is the intention that mining 'drilling platforms' will actually mine minerals on their own? That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it is quite a radical paradigm shift. So long as they are sufficiently constrained and vulnerable, that could give a powerful incentive for spaceholding. |
Dyexz
Comrades in Construction
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Posted - 2015.03.23 15:05:53 -
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Somatic Neuron wrote:Would be nice if we could actually get some sort of mission service in our new structures.
That option will probably only be available for the Administration structure, as it was mentioned as a possibility in the keynote at Fanfest. It is not the missions them selves that will be attracted, but Agents will be encouraged to be locating their services out of your structure (from what I can remember from keynote)
you can find out more here. |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
1177
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Posted - 2015.03.23 15:15:17 -
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Will this be available in wspace? There are some concerns.
1) cloaky pvp market harassment (afk cloaked in space wiping out a corps market). 2) storage and loss (market hub blowing up). 3) easy Intel (jump into wspace, open market, if stuff available, can count the amount of assets present and whether to blow up or not).
Docking or mooring?
Can corporate and alliance settings be made so that only blues can see if there is even a market present (hide free Intel from neutrals and reds).
On the drilling platforms... Seems fine atm minus getting caught in a bubble as your transporting stuff back and forth.
Yaay!!!!
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Avui
Six Project Furia.
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Posted - 2015.03.23 15:16:08 -
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Since you are creating a market hub structure I assume that you leave items there to be sold and be able to access the item that you bought.
Also you mention to have the access to the structures being managed by corp, alliance or standing.
If both things are true can you please make sure that you can make contracts out of this structure?
So you can actually ask 3rd parties to haul the items.
And if you like that, while you are doing this for this structure, please make the same for the PI storage structure and the POS fuel holding structure (whatever they are called).
If you have to manage dozens of POSes either you have to distribute access rights to a lot of people or create a high burden in a small amount (the ones that refuel). If these could contracted you can actually have any people from the alliance or even outside it (think high sec) to refuel it for you.
I think you can create a whole new market. :) |
John McCreedy
Eve Defence Force The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.03.23 15:24:06 -
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I posted (admittedly a long post) in the structures thread raising some concerns, none of which have been answered so perhaps you could take the time to answer the one specific to market hubs, please? Are you proposing that in order to buy something, I need to undock from my station/structure, fly to another planet, access the market, purchase the item/s and fly it back to where I dock just so I can fit?
In addition, if I am seeding the market and/or contracts and the market hub can be blown up, what happens to my investment? Does it blow up along with the structure? Does it get ejected like the proposed mechanic for storing ships (which no one will do if you make it so they can be blown up)? Something else?
If you could please clarify these points it would help the debate.
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Ben Ishikela
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Posted - 2015.03.23 15:29:06 -
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About drilling and the actual opportunity with the new structure patch, i will link a proposal from ealier. It talks about Harvest time. Think about the crops and the conflict that comes with autumn in medieval. Sure, new Eden is advanced. But good old Conflict that is true to humans, what can possibly go wrong in a game?
Have a Look TL:DR Known recurring Point in Time for when ressources come in huge chunks (via spaceelevator/etc). So that timed interception/Pilaging/Theft is worth something and an interesting conflict driver.
Add new modules or ships that can use tactics and strategies to beat the current meta or use totaly different gameplay to do so! yay :)
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Awulf
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
0
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Posted - 2015.03.23 15:39:05 -
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Would cloning facilities be available in w-space?
This has been a sore point for many a wormholer. No way to effectively jump between clones with different implant sets. |
Onslaughtor
Occult National Security Phoenix Naval Systems
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Posted - 2015.03.23 16:18:24 -
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One idea I have had for a while
ORE collection center
The Ore Cllection Center is a specialized deployable that is designed to be launched in ore and ice belts and act as a automated fiscal payout and material collecting agent. After deploying it will automaticly tractor, scoop, payout to the person depositing and tax if set too. Can also be sold to directly.
Tractor range is 200km, it only tractors in jet cans or deployable cans. It takes 10secs before it will tractor in the can, by default, this should be a changeable setting. Upon the can reaching the OCC it will scoop all ores, ice, gas into a very large internal ore bay. It will take the estimated price, or a set one, for all the ore and then apply the owner tax (% the owner is not going to pay for), then deposit the payment to the user as a ore bounty (This way the userGÇÖs corp and alliance can tax them) . Standings may also be set to determine paybacks. The isk will come from a set location, and up to a limit set by the owner (Its like a buy order) No more than one may be placed within 100,000 km of each other. Upon destruction the OCC drops ore like normal along with some of the components needed to build it. The isk buy order is returned to its owner. Ore in the OCC can be either scooped from the hold by the owner, or someone designated by the owner, or can be remotely jettisoned into a large can by the owner or owner affiliate. This can will not be scooped back up.
Course this is just a sketched out idea, but anything could be changed. |
Kym Sorenson
Lone Wolf Union Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.23 16:20:39 -
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One of the single biggest questions I'm sure a lot of people have is, will there be a fundamental change in how "moon mats" are extracted? Will they continue to be only at moons, or is there going to be a total overhaul of raw t2 mats with these "anchorable anywhere" drilling platforms? That seems to be the fundamental place to start this discussion. |
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