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Maxxor Brutor
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
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Posted - 2015.03.23 20:43:53 -
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Ship deaths in W-Space http://i.imgur.com/03VtpAo.png
NPC kills by WH Class http://i.imgur.com/XrAg9Hk.png
POSes by WH Class http://i.imgur.com/pfYhLNQ.png |
Adarnof
Free Trade Monopoly You Are Being Monitored
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Posted - 2015.03.23 21:12:39 -
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Thanks for sharing these. Only been waiting for a devblog with them for, what, a year? CCplease? |
Papa Django
CosmoTeK LTD La Division Bleue
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Posted - 2015.03.23 21:13:53 -
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Nice !
I have seen a lot of the FF with twitch.tv but i have missed that. Is there a stream available ? |
Pissfat
Reverse Production
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Posted - 2015.03.23 21:31:47 -
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Adarnof wrote:Thanks for sharing these. Only been waiting for a devblog with them for, what, a year? CCplease?
Most of us have asked for WH space graph **** for many years yet every year they release so many more graphs on nullsec, pretty sad really if all we still get is 3 graphs and one of them is completely useless if it includes all the abandoned pos's.
I am Winthorp, you may remember me from such films as....
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umnikar
Fishbone Industries
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Posted - 2015.03.23 21:33:33 -
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before
would like it, if they keep the relations...but meh, I'm tired about all that. |
Credacom
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2015.03.23 21:55:42 -
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Always knew c5s were bear space. Nice graphs |
Jack Miton
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.03.23 21:59:36 -
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The occupancy decline in both C5s and C6s, along with the heavy increase in PVE kills in C5s is a nice indicator of the state of high end wspace.
Good to see C2s getting repopulated too.
Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/
Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/
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umnikar
Fishbone Industries
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Posted - 2015.03.23 22:08:18 -
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Pissfat wrote:Adarnof wrote:Thanks for sharing these. Only been waiting for a devblog with them for, what, a year? CCplease? Most of us have asked for WH space graph **** for many years yet every year they release so many more graphs on nullsec, pretty sad really if all we still get is 3 graphs and one of them is completely useless if it includes all the abandoned pos's.
Looking at the numbers on the left, it becomes pretty obvious that they are not online. ;) Else you would see a fuel hauler every minute. |
Help They GotMyMoney
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.23 22:22:03 -
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It only took how many years for some 'special' entities to realize how good c5 mags are? |
Credacom
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2015.03.23 23:25:06 -
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Jack Miton wrote:The occupancy decline in both C5s and C6s, along with the heavy increase in PVE kills in C5s is a nice indicator of the state of high end wspace.
Don't worry, mass renting and blue blobs will make it much better.... It's not like C5s are low risk with farmable cap esc combat sites.... Wait what?
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Jack Miton
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.03.23 23:53:56 -
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Credacom wrote:Jack Miton wrote:The occupancy decline in both C5s and C6s, along with the heavy increase in PVE kills in C5s is a nice indicator of the state of high end wspace. Don't worry, mass renting and blue blobs will make it much better.... It's not like C5s are low risk with farmable cap esc combat sites.... Wait what? i know right? bluing everyone and kicking out all the people who wont blue you is great for C5 space!
Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/
Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/
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Alundil
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.03.24 01:12:48 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Credacom wrote:Jack Miton wrote:The occupancy decline in both C5s and C6s, along with the heavy increase in PVE kills in C5s is a nice indicator of the state of high end wspace. Don't worry, mass renting and blue blobs will make it much better.... It's not like C5s are low risk with farmable cap esc combat sites.... Wait what? i know right? bluing everyone and kicking out all the people who wont blue you is great for C5 space! It is known (apparently)
I'm right behind you
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Michael1995
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2015.03.24 02:20:17 -
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Credacom wrote: Don't worry, mass renting and blue blobs will make it much better.... It's not like C5s are low risk with farmable cap esc combat sites.... Wait what?
http://puu.sh/gN8wC/726af2567f.jpg
Thank you for sending the isk, your blue status will remain for the next 60 days.
One does not simply buy their way into Goonswarm.
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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
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Posted - 2015.03.24 05:52:32 -
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Control tower numbers in C4 space up 30% in a year. Not bad.
C4 bearing took a major hit with the addition of second statics in C4's but it's recovered well recently. Probably due to Garmur skynets in C4 W-R, but that's just a wild speculation. Truthfully, more organised residents from medium sized corps is what's driving increased poo punching in C4's, whereas before it was solo marauders, who probably all left when the second statics arrived and the sleeper neut and RR buff arrived too. People finally realised C4's weren't for the onanist aspies and neckbeards and took socialisation classes.
Prolapse. Taking fights since 2014.
Sudden Buggery. Got duumb? Hola, Batmanuel!
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dirtydebbs
the wreking crew
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Posted - 2015.03.24 09:14:21 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:Control tower numbers in C4 space up 30% in a year. Not bad.
C4 bearing took a major hit with the addition of second statics in C4's but it's recovered well recently. Probably due to Garmur skynets in C4 W-R, but that's just a wild speculation. Truthfully, more organised residents from medium sized corps is what's driving increased poo punching in C4's, whereas before it was solo marauders, who probably all left when the second statics arrived and the sleeper neut and RR buff arrived too. People finally realised C4's weren't for the onanist aspies and neckbeards and took socialisation classes.
yeh soon as the 2nd static arrived c4 space was pretty much empty bar a few people refusing or set up right for it, but i have noticed c4 space is getting to be the new in place a lot more active haven't found a empty c4 system yet in months and at least 50% of the population i have come across are pvp orientated rolling for the pew with fleets of 10-15 max but usually 5, its a refreshing change to be fair,
that graph for c5s though from what i have seen is eithr populated with afk bears or totaly empty dead sticks for every 10 c5s we roll we are lucky to get 1 active corp |
HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.24 09:25:35 -
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Thanks for sharing!
An indicator with online POSses would have been more interesting CCP ... |
Nadine Altair
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.24 12:14:37 -
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Lol @ that Hard Krabs peak. |
Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
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Posted - 2015.03.26 09:23:31 -
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HoruSeth wrote:Thanks for sharing! An indicator with online POSses would have been more interesting CCP ...
It doesn't matter. In a few months C1 and C2 holes will be empty of any kind of structures. Those 4.3 thousand poses in C1 and C2 will be gone. |
Lloyd Roses
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Posted - 2015.03.26 12:16:32 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:C4 bearing took a major hit with the addition of second statics in C4's but it's recovered well recently. [...] People finally realised C4's weren't for the onanist aspies and neckbeards and took socialisation classes.
Solo farming with some sentry Domis (and alts) in c4s is totally not a thing.
Ganking those with a 100mn Tengu apparently also not a thing.
I GÖÑ Sleipnir
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umnikar
Fishbone Industries
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Posted - 2015.03.26 12:27:14 -
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Sequester Risalo wrote:HoruSeth wrote:Thanks for sharing! An indicator with online POSses would have been more interesting CCP ... It doesn't matter. In a few months C1 and C2 holes will be empty of any kind of structures. Those 4.3 thousand poses in C1 and C2 will be gone.
uh?
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Pissfat
Reverse Production
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Posted - 2015.03.26 12:29:59 -
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umnikar wrote:Sequester Risalo wrote:HoruSeth wrote:Thanks for sharing! An indicator with online POSses would have been more interesting CCP ... It doesn't matter. In a few months C1 and C2 holes will be empty of any kind of structures. Those 4.3 thousand poses in C1 and C2 will be gone. uh?
All offline pos's will be removed and rembursed to the owners when new pos's happen.
I am Winthorp, you may remember me from such films as....
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elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
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Posted - 2015.03.26 12:49:16 -
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Pissfat wrote:... All offline pos's will be removed and rembursed to the owners when new pos's happen.
Aww man, and here I thought we would get to go ice mining there..
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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 12:54:56 -
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Indeed. My plan for transitioning to the new theft-box structures (aka vulnerable space hobbit shipping containers) is to,
Option A, if POSs do prove vulnerable to attack and do not have AI guns to defend themselves; I move my ships out prior to the patch, with the bubble up and lights on, and automagically everything will teleport into my corporation wallet
Option B, if POSs get actual guns and aren't vulnerable to bored dweebs with 10 minutes spare time; Set up a new POS replacement at some seriously deep safes, move my ships there, and leave my existing POSs online with the lights on and fuel in them, and have everything automagically teleport itself into my wallet.
Why would ANYONE bother unanchoring anything at all?
Prolapse. Taking fights since 2014.
Sudden Buggery. Got duumb? Hola, Batmanuel!
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umnikar
Fishbone Industries
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Posted - 2015.03.26 13:28:42 -
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Pissfat wrote:umnikar wrote:Sequester Risalo wrote:HoruSeth wrote:Thanks for sharing! An indicator with online POSses would have been more interesting CCP ... It doesn't matter. In a few months C1 and C2 holes will be empty of any kind of structures. Those 4.3 thousand poses in C1 and C2 will be gone. uh? All offline pos's will be removed and rembursed to the owners when new pos's happen.
ok, but only in c1/2? |
HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.26 13:38:47 -
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no, but the most offline POSses are found in low-class wormholes. The higher the class, the less offline POS you will find, unless they belong to the corp living there and to maybe occupy all moons (if they only have a few one). |
Shilalasar
Dead Sky Inc.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:59:10 -
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HoruSeth wrote:no, but the most offline POSses are found in low-class wormholes.
Bald claim, especially factoring in the fact how few lowends do not have at least one active FF in them, how a farmingtower in a c5/6 is worth less than you-¦d make in the time needed to unanchor it and how many more C1-4s are there than C5/6s. |
Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:09:38 -
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Not only that.
I'm doing a wild guess here. But I assume that you can only fit medium or at most large sized new structures into smaller wormholes. So with no defenses to write home about and trollceptors being able to destroy those in a few minutes you will have to babysit these structures for four hours every frigging day, with entosis "warfare" applying to those. Only the most daft persons would deploy anything valuable in low class. People able to babysit their structure most likely will chose higher class wormholes as it will be difficult to entertain the groups required for defense in low class whs.
Also not only offline poses will be removed. I quote:
"It is obvious such changes will not come in one release, nor that we are going to alter or remove existing structures without prior and sufficient warning.
As such our plan is to: GÇó Progressively cut functionalities from existing structures. This would match new structures arrival that provide an overlapping gameplay. For instance, deploying the new Assembly Arrays would cause existing Starbases and Outposts to lose their manufacturing bonuses at first, then their manufacturing capability. GÇó Give ample time for players to evacuate their assets from existing structures and adapt to the changes."
According to the graph poses will be removed after grace period 2a. |
ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2015.03.28 18:56:43 -
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Sequester Risalo wrote:Not only that.
I'm doing a wild guess here. But I assume that you can only fit medium or at most large sized new structures into smaller wormholes. So with no defenses to write home about and trollceptors being able to destroy those in a few minutes you will have to babysit these structures for four hours every frigging day, with entosis "warfare" applying to those. Only the most daft persons would deploy anything valuable in low class. People able to babysit their structure most likely will chose higher class wormholes as it will be difficult to entertain the groups required for defense in low class whs.
Why do you think they wont have defenses? The new structures are going to be more defendable than current, with the ability of having much powerful, and numerous defences tacked on. They are modular, and build-able, such that in exchange for more fuel theyll be able to have more piled onto them then current.
I dont think your going to see trollceptor fleets running through WHs taking peoples structures down. not unless they didn't bother to toss some def up
The Wormhole Kid
Event Organizer of EVE New England
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Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
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Posted - 2015.03.28 22:48:00 -
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I know that you may fit defences on the new structures. Unfortunately those require you to be online and defend your structure in person. Something I won't be able to do for four hours every day. So when you are not there those huge piles of metal might as well have no defenses at all. |
Nash MacAllister
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
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Posted - 2015.03.30 17:46:05 -
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Sequester Risalo wrote:I know that you may fit defences on the new structures. Unfortunately those require you to be online and defend your structure in person. Something I won't be able to do for four hours every day. So when you are not there those huge piles of metal might as well have no defenses at all.
Let me disagree with this whole line of thinking. CCP specifically mentioned the structure defense AI being too weak. Now, I may be reading into that statement, but it seems to me they intend to buff the AI behind "POS" gunning or whatever that becomes. I am certainly making much less of a leap than some statements in this thread. Personally, I see structures of being much more capable of automated defense when all this finally hits TQ...
Yes, if you have to ask yourself the question, just assume we are watching you...
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