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Miko Valentine
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.24 01:58:41 -
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how does it exactly work? with my ****** Internet connection will i get lags and please wait Screens when i enter a System for the first time? how big will the Data packages be, will eve still be playable with my 2000kbit/s tiny village Internet connection |
Anhenka
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
1308
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Posted - 2015.03.24 02:06:08 -
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There's very little CCP can do for you.
I recently played EVE while in a remote Alaskan town, and while the speed was horrifically slow (Literally worse than 56k dial-up), the latency was ok.
Turns out that aside from patches, playing EVE uses only a very tiny amount of actual data exchange. So your issues have more to do with the latency between you and the host than they do the actual amount of data exchanged.
Oh and Download on Demand is 100% optional. You can go ahead and download the entire package like you already do instead of going the download by demand route.
Which you would know if you went and read the dev blog. |
Miko Valentine
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2015.03.24 02:21:30 -
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never had Problems with the playing any online game , only the download takes a bit more time :) thank god than ill Patch my game like usual. < some game news sites and german Forums wrote like, as if the Dod Client is the only way to play the game after the new Expansion.. |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.03.24 02:51:29 -
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Anhenka wrote:...Which you would know if you went and read the dev blog. grrr goons
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to type on your keyboard and remove all doubt.
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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
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Posted - 2015.03.24 08:04:17 -
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the first time hurts, then it becomes better.
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Miko Valentine
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2015.03.24 09:45:51 -
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hurts? na why should it hurt to ask .... |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2015.03.24 09:55:55 -
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Download on demand is optional.
You can tell it to just go ahead and download everything before letting you play.
It /should/ let you play anyway, when it doesn't have assets, giving you placeholders instead, but you would notice a spike in network usage, as it has to download stuff (while showing you the placeholders)
Woo! CSM X!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Kenneth Endashi
Atomic Pharmaceuticals
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Posted - 2015.03.24 09:58:29 -
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What does a placeholder look like? |
Miko Valentine
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.24 10:29:09 -
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devblog:
What about slow connections?
You can use the offline installer, or you can wait while the launcher downloads everything.
one last question: the Launcher behaves like usual if i dont change any settings and it will download the Patch/files as it normally does and the DOD is just for the ppl who dont dont to wait till the patch is downloaded before playing ? |
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.24 10:55:29 -
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Miko Valentine wrote:devblog:
What about slow connections?
You can use the offline installer, or you can wait while the launcher downloads everything.
one last question: the Launcher behaves like usual if i dont change any settings and it will download the Patch/files as it normally does and the DOD is just for the ppl who dont dont to wait till the patch is downloaded before playing ?
If you do not change any settings in the launcher, then at first login after downtime on March 24, 2015, the launcher will convert all the existing resource files in your client to new file-formats in a location of your choosing. This is done so that you do not need to download the full client again. After this is done, the launcher will then patch the release, and you are all set.
If your connection is a bottleneck, then I'd probably recommend entering the launcher settings and ticking the "Download all the resource files" box. Doing this ensures that you have all the resources possibly needed in game.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1603
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:00:33 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:Miko Valentine wrote:devblog:
What about slow connections?
You can use the offline installer, or you can wait while the launcher downloads everything.
one last question: the Launcher behaves like usual if i dont change any settings and it will download the Patch/files as it normally does and the DOD is just for the ppl who dont dont to wait till the patch is downloaded before playing ? If you do not change any settings in the launcher, then at first login after downtime on March 24, 2015, the launcher will convert all the existing resource files in your client to new file-formats in a location of your choosing. This is done so that you do not need to download the full client again. After this is done, the launcher will then patch the release, and you are all set. If your connection is a bottleneck, then I'd probably recommend entering the launcher settings and ticking the "Download all the resource files" box. Doing this ensures that you have all the resources possibly needed in game.
Bolded and underlined the part that, because as far as I know, is only possible on a Pc, on a Mac it's just placed on your HD. You have no choice. Right? |
Elenahina
agony unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:13:23 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:
Bolded and underlined the part that, because as far as I know, is only possible on a Pc, on a Mac it's just placed on your HD. You have no choice. Right?
Where else would you put it?
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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Ur'yaen
Xcense
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:17:34 -
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Reposting from another thread
Ur'yaen wrote:If someone could elnlighten me on that topic please
Currently I have 3 EvE folders - SiSi, TQ 1st account, TQ 2nd account (as a walkaround to not being able to switch toons without relogging). At this moment each launcher/game updates separately and I'm ok with that.
With DoD will that change and if, how do i keep it the old way?
Can I patch all 3 clients and pick different cache folder for each or they will be somehow forced to use one?
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
259
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:20:27 -
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The TQ launcher after it updated remembers my settings from SISI tests and the custom test shared cache I had so I moved that shared cache to a new location where I'd like it to be and then pointed it to the new location. Hopefully the test shared cache doesn't bork my TQ.
Right now it is 50% through the 'Extracting Stuff Files to Shared Resource Cache'. I am hoping using the test cache will also save me some download time. We will see. |
Agent Intrepid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:20:35 -
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Is the patch supposed to be 7GB? |
Malcaz
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:23:24 -
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This is going to cause issues in fleet/small gang fights when people forget to turn this off. |
Avellean
ELUSH Rehab
9
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:29:34 -
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Malcaz wrote:This is going to cause issues in fleet/small gang fights when people forget to turn this off.
Yea not sure who thought this was a good idea, doubt many people will bother to use it. |
Miko Valentine
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:33:06 -
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so clicked Download all the ressources ... it still converts the Gamefiles to this new shared folder ? |
xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
565
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:33:32 -
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Avellean wrote:Malcaz wrote:This is going to cause issues in fleet/small gang fights when people forget to turn this off. Yea not sure who thought this was a good idea, doubt many people will bother to use it.
The best part isn't the partial download, it's being able to share the cache between multiple clients. Apparently it's even possible to have a TQ and a Sisi client sharing the same resource data, which saves a decent amount of disk space. |
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CCP Mephysto
C C P C C P Alliance
8
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:33:37 -
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Agent Intrepid wrote:Is the patch supposed to be 7GB?
No, restart your launcher |
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
259
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:37:25 -
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Miko Valentine wrote:so clicked Download all the ressources ... it still converts the Gamefiles to this new shared folder ?
You want to keep all your overview settings and window placements and stuff right?
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1603
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:39:58 -
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Elenahina wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:
Bolded and underlined the part that, because as far as I know, is only possible on a Pc, on a Mac it's just placed on your HD. You have no choice. Right?
Where else would you put it?
Eh, my bad.
I have a small SSD with my OS and some frequently used programs, the rest is on other internal HD's to safe space on the small (200GB) SSD. I rather not have EVE on my SSD. |
Miko Valentine
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:41:07 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:Miko Valentine wrote:so clicked Download all the ressources ... it still converts the Gamefiles to this new shared folder ? You want to keep all your overview settings and window placements and stuff right?
it would be nice but Un**** a new overview and re arrange the setting takes 5 minutes , wont be a big loss if i have to do this |
Chavi Ono
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:45:39 -
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So um, where should I put this cache?
I have three HDD's: 80GB SSD - system drive 500GB SSD - with two EVE clients (one is junctioned) Platter drive
1} If I put the cache on platter to save space on SSD's will it affect in-game performance? 2} How does this affect the junction install? Should I replace it with some new method?
Thanks! |
Mournful Conciousness
Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate
874
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:52:48 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:
naughty false quote in order to get the attention of a DEV :)
I have a (good) question:
When I run SISI, the new launcher asks me where to put the game assets. It offers me a default location which looks very much like a singular "main install" location.
If I subsequently allow TQ to use DoD, is it valid to use the same location? i.e. will assets be properly shared between the different versions, or should SISI have its own separate asset folder?
Awaiting an answer for this before I activate DoD
Many thanks
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S'Way
Summa Omnium Metus Third Degree Burns
1199
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:55:29 -
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Can we still use the workaround to avoid the launcher altogether, or has that now gone the way of the jukebox too ? |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
751
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:56:53 -
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Avellean wrote:Malcaz wrote:This is going to cause issues in fleet/small gang fights when people forget to turn this off. Yea not sure who thought this was a good idea, doubt many people will bother to use it. They did two mass tests on sisi for this purpose. They have the metrics they needed to determine whether this was going to be a problem or not. If it were, players who took part would have made a stink about it, but I haven't seen that.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
751
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Posted - 2015.03.24 12:03:30 -
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CCP Mephysto wrote:Agent Intrepid wrote:Is the patch supposed to be 7GB? No, restart your launcher Is it supposed to be 7 GB if we checkbox "download all the resource files"?
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Chavi Ono
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.03.24 12:04:53 -
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Chavi Ono wrote:So um, where should I put this cache?
I have three HDD's: 80GB SSD - system drive 500GB SSD - with two EVE clients (one is junctioned) Platter drive
1} If I put the cache on platter to save space on SSD's will it affect in-game performance? 2} How does this affect the junction install? Should I replace it with some new method?
Thanks!
Well I answered my own first question... installed it on platter drive and now game takes 2-3x longer to jump/dock/etc.
The 'cache' phrase (sorry) is a bit misleading and should really be named Master Install or something. The game uses these resources in addition to whatever settings/etc are in the EVE folder. Seems to be like a reverse junction or something... it's too early in the AM to try making sense of this. |
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CCP Mephysto
C C P C C P Alliance
9
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Posted - 2015.03.24 12:14:29 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:CCP Mephysto wrote:Agent Intrepid wrote:Is the patch supposed to be 7GB? No, restart your launcher Is it supposed to be 7 GB if we checkbox "download all the resource files"?
A 7GB patch usually means you are patching to the wrong build. Restart your EVE Launcher. |
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