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Paddok Arbosa
Cynosural Edge Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:55:42 -
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some of the Nerfs im 100% behinde like the Capital Jump nerf and Yes i am a Carrier pilot but the Sov Changes gain 0% support from me right nowe but then agine read abut it is one thing and when its live it can be a ok thing time will tell but the info out right nowe it sounds relly **** up |
Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
253
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:58:00 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:Dextrome Thorphan wrote:These changes are definately for the better. It just sucks for the people who just now finished training for carriers... at least give them some other role to compensate for disabling drone assist. That's just my opinion. The whole assigned fighters thing concerned only those who exploited the broken mechanic in bot renter systems from the perfect safety of a POS. It was a way to use a capital ship 100% risk-free for either PVE or PVP, and such doesn't belong in EVE. Normal carrier gameplay (triage, POS repping, slowcats, using fighters on grid etc) has not been nerfed in any way.
trained carriers, never used skynetting, i used my carrier on grid with my own fighters, i needed to move my carrier id use the gates with my scout, no fatigue and a crazy rush with a slow-ass aligning ship through null, hopefully the prices of carriers will drop now so i can buy another archon.
i favour these changes
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Antonia Iskarius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:01:59 -
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Not even just remove ability to delegate fighters... removed on-grid assign/defend as well. Only the carrier itself can lock target... plus fighter itself then needs another minute to lock target. fighters are now useless for combat. You can kiss my 10 accounts goodbye. |
Felter Echerie
SL33P3R C3LL
0
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:07:40 -
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Starry Enigma wrote:
What, we can't make easy isk?
I'll let this hangin here. |
Kuga
Back Door Burglars
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:09:00 -
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*Hands OP a Snickers
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Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:13:47 -
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PhantomMajor wrote:I do have some sympathy with the OP.
I have been around for a while and the amount of nerfs is becoming ridiculous; as for defending your own null sec pocket after the recent jump bridge nerfs it will be impossible.
I moved a carrier today and it took four hours where it once took twenty minutes...so where is the fun in station spinning for 3.5 hours CCP? I logged off to play WoT, so where was my eve interaction if I'm stuck in a station all day? Instead I had more interaction on WoT.
I'm paying -ú9:99 to station spin, that hardly seems fair CCP; I will wait for the June patch but if this nonsense continues then there will be a very expensive paper clip on eBay and my eve subscription will be spent on: Elite; Dangerous which seems to be the game that eve should have been.
So you sat there station spinning instead of undocking with another ship and do something else? Or (and the horror) you could grab some scouts, use gates and take some risk. Stop bearing it up in your blue doughnut. I think you are EVE-ing wrong. |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2767
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:14:25 -
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OP should leave forged of fire Alliance and join form the forged of tears Alliance .
Forced of salt also works ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
157
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:23:16 -
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Antonia Iskarius wrote:Not even just remove ability to delegate fighters... removed on-grid assign/defend as well. Only the carrier itself can lock target... plus fighter itself then needs another minute to lock target. fighters are now useless for combat. You can kiss my 10 accounts goodbye.
You're a lying troll. You can still assist to ships on grid. |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
387
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:25:21 -
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If you're not chasing skills, or something, you wouldn't sub. They wouldn't make money.
MMO's feed on the basic need for you to want more. |
Antonia Iskarius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:28:00 -
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Aerie Evingod wrote:Antonia Iskarius wrote:Not even just remove ability to delegate fighters... removed on-grid assign/defend as well. Only the carrier itself can lock target... plus fighter itself then needs another minute to lock target. fighters are now useless for combat. You can kiss my 10 accounts goodbye. You're a lying troll. You can still assist to ships on grid. Fighters can no longer be assigned to other pilots, the GÇÿDelegate ControlGÇÖ option has been removed from right click menus. (Updated on March 23, was originally: "Fighters can no longer be assigned to other pilots. The GÇÿDelegate ControlGÇÖ option has been removed and replaced by GÇÿAssistGÇÖ and GÇÿDefendGÇÖ, same as other drones.")
I'm going by what patch notes say. I hope I'm wrong and you're right. |
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Erin Crawford
459
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:29:38 -
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Rowells wrote:before UAE gets here, dibs on stuff
Hah! pg 3 and still no UAE, he's slacking tonight...
Oh, and where's ISD Ezwal? I wish i could like his thread closing/locking posts; the comments and reasons he leaves behind are golden!
"Those who talk donGÇÖt know. Those who know donGÇÖt talk. "
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10389
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:36:05 -
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Antonia Iskarius wrote:Aerie Evingod wrote:Antonia Iskarius wrote:Not even just remove ability to delegate fighters... removed on-grid assign/defend as well. Only the carrier itself can lock target... plus fighter itself then needs another minute to lock target. fighters are now useless for combat. You can kiss my 10 accounts goodbye. You're a lying troll. You can still assist to ships on grid. Fighters can no longer be assigned to other pilots, the GÇÿDelegate ControlGÇÖ option has been removed from right click menus. (Updated on March 23, was originally: "Fighters can no longer be assigned to other pilots. The GÇÿDelegate ControlGÇÖ option has been removed and replaced by GÇÿAssistGÇÖ and GÇÿDefendGÇÖ, same as other drones.") I'm going by what patch notes say. I hope I'm wrong and you're right.
The patch notes are wrong.
CCP Turtlepower wrote:Siliouba wrote:Reading from patch notes:
Fighters can no longer be assigned to other pilots. The GÇÿDelegate ControlGÇÖ option has been removed and replaced by GÇÿAssistGÇÖ and GÇÿDefendGÇÖ, same as other drones.
It seems "Assist and Defend" doesn't appears in game for fighters .... Is this a bug or devs decision?
You are looking at an old version of the patch notes, we have also removed the Assist and Defend options. Capital ships will be re-balanced later this year, we will make them awesome again! |
Antonia Iskarius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:40:39 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:The patch notes are wrong.CCP Turtlepower wrote:Siliouba wrote:Reading from patch notes:
Fighters can no longer be assigned to other pilots. The GÇÿDelegate ControlGÇÖ option has been removed and replaced by GÇÿAssistGÇÖ and GÇÿDefendGÇÖ, same as other drones.
It seems "Assist and Defend" doesn't appears in game for fighters .... Is this a bug or devs decision?
You are looking at an old version of the patch notes, we have also removed the Assist and Defend options. Capital ships will be re-balanced later this year, we will make them awesome again! Welp... guess I'm taking a vacation. We'll see if I come back later this year after they are 'awesome again'. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10389
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:44:23 -
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Antonia Iskarius wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:The patch notes are wrong.CCP Turtlepower wrote:Siliouba wrote:Reading from patch notes:
Fighters can no longer be assigned to other pilots. The GÇÿDelegate ControlGÇÖ option has been removed and replaced by GÇÿAssistGÇÖ and GÇÿDefendGÇÖ, same as other drones.
It seems "Assist and Defend" doesn't appears in game for fighters .... Is this a bug or devs decision?
You are looking at an old version of the patch notes, we have also removed the Assist and Defend options. Capital ships will be re-balanced later this year, we will make them awesome again! Welp... guess I'm taking a vacation. We'll see if I come back later this year after they are 'awesome again'.
I'm staying, but for a half second I really wanted to triple box anoms with 1 toon in my Machariel and two carrier toons (aligned at full speed to a POS) assigning 26 fighters to it LOL. CCP must have realized what folks like me would have done had they gone through with it lol.
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Antonia Iskarius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:48:43 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Antonia Iskarius wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:The patch notes are wrong.CCP Turtlepower wrote:Siliouba wrote:Reading from patch notes:
Fighters can no longer be assigned to other pilots. The GÇÿDelegate ControlGÇÖ option has been removed and replaced by GÇÿAssistGÇÖ and GÇÿDefendGÇÖ, same as other drones.
It seems "Assist and Defend" doesn't appears in game for fighters .... Is this a bug or devs decision?
You are looking at an old version of the patch notes, we have also removed the Assist and Defend options. Capital ships will be re-balanced later this year, we will make them awesome again! Welp... guess I'm taking a vacation. We'll see if I come back later this year after they are 'awesome again'. I'm staying, but for a half second I really wanted to triple box anoms with 1 toon in my Machariel and two carrier toons (aligned at full speed to a POS) assigning 26 fighters to it LOL. CCP must have realized what folks like me would have done had they gone through with it lol. Yup, for a bit I stopped being mad because I had visions of putting 4 supers on grid and assisting 50 fighters to a Huginn. But as I can't even assist now and the atrocious lock times on both supers and the fighters themselves mean it will take over a minute to acquire targets, fighters are now useless in combat. I spent the last year training half a dozen super pilots, meaning Fighters 5 on each one, so I am pretty pissed now that my investment both in training time and the supers themselves was for a paperweight. I don't think CCP deserves a single dime more out of me after disrespecting me in such a manner. |
Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.03.24 19:51:21 -
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"Boo hoo, I can no longer sit risk-free on my POS shields and use fighters in lowsec"
Thread over, move along. |
CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp. Phoebe Freeport Republic
230
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Posted - 2015.03.24 20:08:36 -
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http://i.imgur.com/yu13SMh.gifv |
PhantomMajor
High Flyers The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.03.24 20:20:07 -
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BrundleMeth wrote:PhantomMajor wrote:I do have some sympathy with the OP.
I have been around for a while and the amount of nerfs is becoming ridiculous; as for defending your own null sec pocket after the recent jump bridge nerfs it will be impossible.
I moved a carrier today and it took four hours where it once took twenty minutes...so where is the fun in station spinning for 3.5 hours CCP? I logged off to play WoT, so where was my eve interaction if I'm stuck in a station all day? Instead I had more interaction on WoT.
I'm paying -ú9:99 to station spin, that hardly seems fair CCP; I will wait for the June patch but if this nonsense continues then there will be a very expensive paper clip on eBay and my eve subscription will be spent on: Elite; Dangerous which seems to be the game that eve should have been. Yes, the Nerfs are getting stupid. And all the idiots who keep parroting "Cry more" or "Can I have your stuff" don't seem to get that if enough people quit the game it WILL eventually cause big problems...
Five years ago peek account activity was 60K +. Now it's at 30K, I'd say that the big problem has arrived. ..CCP doesn't have a plan to reverse the trend other more of the same old, same old. |
Kopis Bessar
Voidlight Consortium Interstellar Solutions
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Posted - 2015.03.24 20:33:29 -
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Yeah, I'm loving that CCP had a whole thread discussion soliciting feedback on the proposed changes just so they could ignore all the pilots and go ahead with their asinine "fix" for everything... |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20763
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Posted - 2015.03.24 20:40:46 -
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Erin Crawford wrote:Rowells wrote:before UAE gets here, dibs on stuff Hah! pg 3 and still no UAE, he's slacking tonight... Oh, and where's ISD Ezwal? I wish i could like his thread closing/locking posts; the comments and reasons he leaves behind are golden!
Thank you for your concern good citizens of General Discussion. There will be times where UaE will not be able to immeadiately and appropriately troll a thread. Luckily, I have spent years giving you all examples of my good works in which to use as a guide, as well as raised many an apprentice who can, in my stead, take to the fields of battle with my full support.
Now, as for this thread, do I really need to make a response to 'Eve is dying' thread #9,880,332.5, or 'CCP wai u change mai gaem" thread# 4.622.002? Do I truly need to once again ask for someones stuff before they leave for the greener fields of P2W lvl 90 Pandarian monks? Should I need to radio the Waaaaaaambulance because somoneones tears are running down and irritating their already tender posterior region because their winbutton skynet is gone?
Anyways, im sure glad that OP belongs to 'Forged in Fire', because after a boatload of tripe like the first post, there will be no shortage of flames.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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PhantomMajor
High Flyers The Kadeshi
37
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Posted - 2015.03.24 20:51:04 -
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Petre en Thielles wrote:PhantomMajor wrote:I do have some sympathy with the OP.
I have been around for a while and the amount of nerfs is becoming ridiculous; as for defending your own null sec pocket after the recent jump bridge nerfs it will be impossible.
I moved a carrier today and it took four hours where it once took twenty minutes...so where is the fun in station spinning for 3.5 hours CCP? I logged off to play WoT, so where was my eve interaction if I'm stuck in a station all day? Instead I had more interaction on WoT.
I'm paying -ú9:99 to station spin, that hardly seems fair CCP; I will wait for the June patch but if this nonsense continues then there will be a very expensive paper clip on eBay and my eve subscription will be spent on: Elite; Dangerous which seems to be the game that eve should have been. So you sat there station spinning instead of undocking with another ship and do something else? Or (and the horror) you could grab some scouts, use gates and take some risk. Stop bearing it up in your blue doughnut. I think you are EVE-ing wrong.
What other ship would that be?
I have no other ships in the carrier or in the station/system. So should I undock in a pod and go mining? Perhaps switch to an alt but mine are skilled for station trading. ..and no I don't have more than one account. ..
Next time try thinking before typing :-P |
Ito Eto
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.24 20:53:07 -
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PhantomMajor wrote:BrundleMeth wrote:PhantomMajor wrote:I do have some sympathy with the OP.
I have been around for a while and the amount of nerfs is becoming ridiculous; as for defending your own null sec pocket after the recent jump bridge nerfs it will be impossible.
I moved a carrier today and it took four hours where it once took twenty minutes...so where is the fun in station spinning for 3.5 hours CCP? I logged off to play WoT, so where was my eve interaction if I'm stuck in a station all day? Instead I had more interaction on WoT.
I'm paying -ú9:99 to station spin, that hardly seems fair CCP; I will wait for the June patch but if this nonsense continues then there will be a very expensive paper clip on eBay and my eve subscription will be spent on: Elite; Dangerous which seems to be the game that eve should have been. Yes, the Nerfs are getting stupid. And all the idiots who keep parroting "Cry more" or "Can I have your stuff" don't seem to get that if enough people quit the game it WILL eventually cause big problems... Five years ago peek account activity was 60K +. Now it's at 30K, I'd say that the big problem has arrived. ..CCP doesn't have a plan to reverse the trend other more of the same old, same old.
At this point in time it might behoove them to consider running up a consensual PVP server, I came back after 3 years away and was shocked to see Tranq with 20k pilots active (less than 50% of a hi-pop EU wow server). Something really needs to be done about player retention, and footzing about with the NPE is not the answer.
Its multiple win:- New start for stagnant 0.0 without embedded entities that have held sov for the best part of a decade (leave ffa pos shooting in, make it "my guns vs your reppers", or maintain a certain density of players in an area like TFC cap points), cap the number of systems an entity can control . It would gain and retain pve only players who just want to level up ravens and not become someone else's "content". More -ú-ú for CCP to continue to support this beautiful game. |
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
301
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Posted - 2015.03.24 20:58:17 -
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As a Cap Pilot i can understand why CCP introduced jump fatigue, Force projection was out of control, but at the same token alot of us will miss the epic clashes such as B-R.
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Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
850
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Posted - 2015.03.24 21:03:51 -
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Please name a "useless" ship.
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1974
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Posted - 2015.03.24 21:06:23 -
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Aiwha wrote:Please name a "useless" ship. Primae, Rorqual. Hmmmm...... |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
850
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Posted - 2015.03.24 21:09:32 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Aiwha wrote:Please name a "useless" ship. Primae, Rorqual. Hmmmm......
Primae was a promotional gift, rorqs I will give you. Every other ship DOES have a use and does see use.
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Lachra
Union of Labor
117
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Posted - 2015.03.24 21:11:58 -
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Someone call a waaaambulance right away! |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1974
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Posted - 2015.03.24 21:13:21 -
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Aiwha wrote: Primae was a promotional gift, rorqs I will give you. Every other ship DOES have a use and does see use.
That was kinda my point listing those two ships as useless :P |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
850
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Posted - 2015.03.24 21:16:48 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Aiwha wrote: Primae was a promotional gift, rorqs I will give you. Every other ship DOES have a use and does see use.
That was kinda my point listing those two ships as useless :P
My bad. I'm just used to every response on here being sarcastic and angry.
But speaking of rorqs, CCPLS FIX.
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
115
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Posted - 2015.03.24 21:21:19 -
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PhantomMajor wrote:
Five years ago peek account activity was 60K +. Now it's at 30K, I'd say that the big problem has arrived. ..CCP doesn't have a plan to reverse the trend other more of the same old, same old.
Why are you looking at account activity? EVE has more subscribers now than ever before.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/3dc2c3332b7d2e2a7cdb1bce100a78c3.png
Subscribers = money. Person actively logged in does not |
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