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Remiel Pollard
Against All Odds.
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Posted - 2015.04.04 08:50:58 -
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Rroff wrote:Nicolai Serkanner wrote: At Fanfest it was shown that when new players lose a ship they are subscribing more often than players who do not lose a ship. Your "few people" isn't anything else but a "few people". It has no meaning in the argument.
Context - break it down by players losing a ship to NPCs, consensual PVP, non-consensual PVP, etc. and the "facts" may show something different (maybe). Ultimately what I posted before is anecdotal but its certainly been my experience with those players who are new to the game and getting suicide ganked early on tends to discourage them from sticking with the game more than it "inspired" them to get more into the game (as before I don't think having high sec as super safe is the answer either).
Getting ganked is exactly why I stuck around. For revenge. Which I got. Then I took over a whole low sec constellation with some friends, was a small part of some other big stuff in and around Khanid, and have had a lot of fun in the last three years. If just getting ganked is enough to discourage someone from sticking around, then they weren't cut out for the nitty-gritty of EVE anyway, so it's no real loss.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Glathull
Warlock Assassins
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Posted - 2015.04.04 12:55:36 -
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so my first thought when I read this thread was that if carriers are truly worthless now, the prices must have tanked. Surely people must be giving them away or maybe even paying you to take them off their hands.
Huh. Not really the case. I guess OP is full of it.
Okay, that's a lie. My first thought was that OP is full of it. Then I checked the markets.
Them markets: they don't lie.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Shut up, Anslo. --everyone
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Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2015.04.05 22:46:32 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote: Getting ganked is exactly why I stuck around. For revenge. Which I got. Then I took over a whole low sec constellation with some friends, was a small part of some other big stuff in and around Khanid, and have had a lot of fun in the last three years. If just getting ganked is enough to discourage someone from sticking around, then they weren't cut out for the nitty-gritty of EVE anyway, so it's no real loss.
Depends a bit - getting ganked once is one thing - one of the people I'm talking about was ganked multiple times before they'd even had enough time in game to figure out how to deal with it or familiar enough with the game to see past it.
Glathull wrote:so my first thought when I read this thread was that if carriers are truly worthless now, the prices must have tanked. Surely people must be giving them away or maybe even paying you to take them off their hands.
Huh. Not really the case. I guess OP is full of it.
Okay, that's a lie. My first thought was that OP is full of it. Then I checked the markets.
Them markets: they don't lie.
Carriers aren't worthless now - far from it - full on fighter roles (completely ignoring skynet) are a niche by far even by carrier use standards - but its a fairly long road to get to (100s of days of training just for the core skills necessary) - bare in mind that most people who are skilled up for a full 15 fighter setup would have had to have started training towards that goal long before CCP made the changes that made skynet a thing (so wouldn't have been doing it with the intention of doing skynet). Now 9/10th of their (fighter) functionality and potential use has been removed with a casual wave of the hand - for anyone who'd actually trained towards their use with a goal in mind thats a pretty bitter ending. |
13kr1d1
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:24:52 -
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CCP cares about what will keep money rolling in. Their bottom line is what determines how the game is designed. Thank your peers for the changes.
This is the same CCP that had monocle gate and removed clones to make things easier for cry babies.
At 5 drones of T2, the Tristan is nearly as powerful as the Algos, with a cheaper price tag, better maneuverability and speed, and smaller sig radius to avoid the lazy carebearish T3 station blapping -10s who have no life. Pick tristan for FW.
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Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.04.06 04:41:41 -
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Because there is no communication between people within CCP. Part of what draws people to EVE are massive fleet battles. Look at all the publicity B-R5RB gave the game. Even big news outlets that weren't dedicated to gaming were reporting on it like the BBC. Big fleet battles are what 90% of the trailers are about for crying out loud. The marketing team is making bank on these huge fleet fights and acknowledge that is what excites potential new players the most.
So why the hell is the dev team trying to implement mechanics that would reduce the likelihood of large battles from happening? Has marketing not told them about how much they rely on large battles to attract attention?
It's like everyone is in their own little corner at CCP when suddenly they realize an update is due and they have to slap everything together.
CCP doesn't hate us. They're just disconnected and disjointed.
Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
2002
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Posted - 2015.04.06 06:02:52 -
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Because every Null player whines about the soul crushing lag, bugs, and CCP have to pour liquid nitrogen over the servers to stop them melting whenever one of those big fights occurs. I.E. It's not fun for any of the parties involved to have half of EVE in one system.
Hopefully the new design makes for some big fights still, but spread out over a Constellation, with actual tactics as well as some mighty clashes. It's not like there won't be timers still, just no soul crushing structure grinds anymore. And timers are what bring those fleets together. |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
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Posted - 2015.04.06 10:04:56 -
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they hate us 'cuz they ain't us
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.04.06 13:18:29 -
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Starry Enigma wrote:Used to be a good 50k people in EVE on weekends a few years ago, now about 38k. What do you think will happen now after these crazy patches?
If CCP hates this game so much, why not just close it? They're taking out so much which people worked for for all these years. EVE is dying If you say it enough times, it is true maybe?
A Caldari is just a Gallente who begged to have their civil liberties taken away.
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.06 13:19:56 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Starry Enigma wrote:Used to be a good 50k people in EVE on weekends a few years ago, now about 38k. What do you think will happen now after these crazy patches?
If CCP hates this game so much, why not just close it? They're taking out so much which people worked for for all these years. EVE is dyingIf you say it enough times, it is true maybe?
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.04.06 20:33:25 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules: 22. Posting regarding RMT (Real Money Trading) is prohibited.
Posts discussing, linking to, or advertising RMT, including but not limited to the sale of in game items, assets, currency, characters or game accounts for real life money are strictly prohibited.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
567
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Posted - 2015.04.07 18:49:16 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:Ioci wrote:They don't hate us. The Player, company relationship has fallen victim to the issue that plagues all of EVE. We don't trust them and they don't trust us. The level of paranoid in this game is pure poison. The level of set back when you don't play it smart and be paranoid is just as poisonous. Dude not everyone is mentally instable like you
Sure, lets make it personal because that always ends well doesn't it, you ignoramic fuckface.
R.I.P. Vile Rat
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.04.07 18:54:48 -
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Ioci wrote:Aiyshimin wrote:Ioci wrote:They don't hate us. The Player, company relationship has fallen victim to the issue that plagues all of EVE. We don't trust them and they don't trust us. The level of paranoid in this game is pure poison. The level of set back when you don't play it smart and be paranoid is just as poisonous. Dude not everyone is mentally unstable like you Sure, lets make it personal because that always ends well doesn't it, you ignoramic fuckface. That is a very relaxed and calm response. He is obviously wrong.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow.
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
567
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Posted - 2015.04.07 19:14:53 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ioci wrote:Aiyshimin wrote:Ioci wrote:They don't hate us. The Player, company relationship has fallen victim to the issue that plagues all of EVE. We don't trust them and they don't trust us. The level of paranoid in this game is pure poison. The level of set back when you don't play it smart and be paranoid is just as poisonous. Dude not everyone is mentally unstable like you Sure, lets make it personal because that always ends well doesn't it, you ignoramic fuckface. That is a very relaxed and calm response. He is obviously wrong.
When you see text, say it in your head with a variety of emotional influences. Say it in rage/ disgust, say it laughing to yourself, say it in a lets see where this goes, mischievous application. Consider the likely case. Or just jump to conclusions and wonder why nothing ever results in anything productive.
R.I.P. Vile Rat
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.04.07 19:30:39 -
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Ioci wrote:... case. Or ... This is just one example why that post made no sense. I recommend that you, take a break and come back tomorrow with a clear head.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
567
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Posted - 2015.04.07 19:40:13 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ioci wrote:... case. Or ... This is just one example why that post made no sense. I recommend that you, take a break and come back tomorrow with a clear head.
You seem a bit uptight, in a desperate search to find some flaw in things I say. So desperate that you are reduced to citing And and or in sentence structure. Your advice is yours to give and maybe yours to take.
R.I.P. Vile Rat
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.04.07 19:51:58 -
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Ioci wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ioci wrote:... case. Or ... This is just one example why that post made no sense. I recommend that you, take a break and come back tomorrow with a clear head. You seem a bit uptight, in a desperate search to find some flaw in things I say. So desperate that you are reduced to citing And and or in sentence structure. Your advice is yours to give and maybe yours to take. Reply like you. Can not doing. Try maybe I Google Translate. Back and forward.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Warp to Cyno.
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Posted - 2015.04.07 20:54:18 -
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hahaha we can say fuckface
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
567
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Posted - 2015.04.07 21:13:27 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ioci wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ioci wrote:... case. Or ... This is just one example why that post made no sense. I recommend that you, take a break and come back tomorrow with a clear head. You seem a bit uptight, in a desperate search to find some flaw in things I say. So desperate that you are reduced to citing And and or in sentence structure. Your advice is yours to give and maybe yours to take. Reply like you. Can not doing. Try maybe I Google Translate. Back and forward.
Welcome to the internet. Feel free to head back to your own forums and make fun of yet another person who doesn't live and breath the nerdery of debug and database tech.
/insert nerd snort here
R.I.P. Vile Rat
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