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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3238
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Posted - 2015.03.24 20:09:03 -
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Im not sure how to stop that fps drop. Ive seen things like that the entire time Ive played eve. As for capping the fps, look for the setting "interval immediate" In the graphics tab of the esc menu.It can be set to different things. Try interval one or two.
That might even help your fps drop. It gives the graphics co-processor a little time to stay caught up when there is a big change.
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Arthur Aihaken
Narada
4214
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Posted - 2015.03.24 20:13:15 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Im not sure how to stop that fps drop. Ive seen things like that the entire time Ive played eve. Closing all other open applications (particularly Safari) made a huge difference on my setup.
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inflamer
Celtic Anarchy
0
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Posted - 2015.03.24 20:50:45 -
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@CCP, could you provide some information on what is being done on your end to address the freezing issues Mac users are experiencing?
Since freezes seem to occur randomly and without notice, this makes it very risky to use the Mac client for anything which involves flying in space, since a freeze at the wrong moment could cost the player a ship + clone.
As far as myself is concerned, I can reproduce this problem quite easily, especially while dualboxing and switching between clients and also when exiting one of the clients, and I'm assuming that this is also the case for you guys.
Thanks, A
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Arthur Aihaken
Narada
4214
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Posted - 2015.03.24 20:59:35 -
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inflamer wrote:Since freezes seem to occur randomly and without notice, this makes it very risky to use the Mac client for anything which involves flying in space, since a freeze at the wrong moment could cost the player a ship + clone. 1. Quit all other applications. 2. Disable audio (or set music level to 0). 3. Disable the 'Use multithreaded OpenGL' option.
It may not necessarily solve your issues, but most of us have had very good success with these actions.
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inflamer
Celtic Anarchy
0
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Posted - 2015.03.24 21:06:11 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:inflamer wrote:Since freezes seem to occur randomly and without notice, this makes it very risky to use the Mac client for anything which involves flying in space, since a freeze at the wrong moment could cost the player a ship + clone. 1. Quit all other applications. 2. Disable audio (or set music level to 0). 3. Disable the 'Use multithreaded OpenGL' option. It may not necessarily solve your issues, but most of us have had very good success with these actions.
While I appreciate these tips (and will certainly try these out:)), if I have to quit all other applications as well as disable audio, I might as well bootcamp into Windows 8 (Which is fine and no big deal, but as there is a Mac client available today, I would hope that CCP could address this issue sooner rather than later) :) |
Ser Owen
Owen Industries Poopstain Removal Team
7
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Posted - 2015.03.24 21:51:08 -
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It seems that with the new release T2 mining crystals are taking damage much faster than they used to. I've been mining with a fresh set for 2,5 hours and they're already half gone. |
Arthur Aihaken
Narada
4214
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Posted - 2015.03.24 21:59:30 -
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inflamer wrote:While I appreciate these tips (and will certainly try these out:)), if I have to quit all other applications as well as disable audio, I might as well bootcamp into Windows 8 (Which is fine and no big deal, but as there is a Mac client available today, I would hope that CCP could address this issue sooner rather than later) :) Honestly, it really depends on your setup. I've only been running Scylla in single-client for a short while, but thus far it's been stable. I am running Safari alongside it and so far, no problems (the audio and OpenGL settings are still disabled). I'll try tweaking a few things to see if anything makes a difference (or results in more instability), but it's probably going to take a few days.
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Robert Parr
Iron Tiger T3 Industries
28
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Posted - 2015.03.25 05:19:51 -
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Have run several missions and have noticed that the wrecks and loot are a lot less prevalent or even nonexistent. Has anyone else noticed this??? Is this yet another stealth nerf to high sec mission running?? Soooooo pissed if that's the case!!! Tanks fer nuttin you mudder......!!!!! I'd really like an explanation please!!! |
Michael Ruckert
Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando
284
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Posted - 2015.03.25 06:00:28 -
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Robert Parr wrote:Have run several missions and have noticed that the wrecks and loot are a lot less prevalent or even nonexistent. Has anyone else noticed this??? Is this yet another stealth nerf to high sec mission running?? Soooooo pissed if that's the case!!! Tanks fer nuttin you mudder......!!!!! I'd really like an explanation please!!!
Known bug for this upgrade and already reported by the PC users. CCP is working to correct it.
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1603
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Posted - 2015.03.25 09:41:12 -
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So after some hesitation on my part because I really do not like having this shared cache folder on my tiny SSD I updated yesterday. Everything went smooth and I logged in. Patched today again flew a bit around today, saw stuff being downloaded while flying around eventhough I previously had the entire client here. Logged out.
Logged back in 15 minutes later to see if I missed something behind the cog wheel and now the launcher is repeating the whole process of extracting files to the shared cache folder.
wtf? |
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Arthur Aihaken
Narada
4214
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Posted - 2015.03.25 12:17:02 -
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Michael Ruckert wrote:Known bug for this upgrade and already reported by the PC users. CCP is working to correct it. I believe it got fixed with today's update.
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Udonor
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2015.03.25 12:37:06 -
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NO EMPTY WRECKS. Keep this unannounced feature.
Improve server performance. Make salvage worth something again.
At least consider keeping this feature for anomalies, signature sites, and rogue drones if you decide to roll this back in regular mission and belts. These are blitz sites that hardly anyone ever salvages. So no one will miss those wrecks. In fact the experience will improve because rare wrecks with loot will be highlighted. |
Udonor
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2015.03.25 12:41:49 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:So after some hesitation on my part because I really do not like having this shared cache folder on my tiny SSD I updated yesterday. Everything went smooth and I logged in. Patched today again flew a bit around today, saw stuff being downloaded while flying around eventhough I previously had the entire client here. Logged out. Logged back in 15 minutes later to see if I missed something behind the cog wheel and now the launcher is repeating the whole process of extracting files to the shared cache folder. wtf?
Did your SSD have sufficient space?
Might have restarted due to running out of space. Silly simplistic recovery idea but often still used.
If you got any possible space issues I would have changed the target location to a hard drive. You were given that option before extracting resources began. Well maybe not for Macs.
There were details on SiSi test server or a on demand blog about moving cache location after the fact. I forget which. |
Andy TJ Hunter
Ye Olde Candy Lords
0
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:09:16 -
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Kouzelny Dedecek wrote:CCP Sledgehammer wrote:Ian Blackbird wrote:CCP Sledgehammer wrote:whereas using the Switch User functionality of the launcher I can still reproduce the issue. Any plans on fixing that one? We're in discussions with our partner regarding it, they are aware of the issue and that issue exists on their side. We are endorsing Clonemaker as a solution in the meantime. Thanks for this! I'll definately install this then. Running 5 clients and having them all lock up whenever you want to change characters is rather harsh.
The workaround for me was to minimize the second EVE window (i only have 2 accounts) then open a chrome/firefox/whatever and have it open when i closed the EVE client so, focus will go to this chrome window and not the second EVE client.
I don't know why but this worked for me :) |
Andy TJ Hunter
Ye Olde Candy Lords
0
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:16:09 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:So after some hesitation on my part because I really do not like having this shared cache folder on my tiny SSD
Move the shared folder on your preferred storage and make a symlink :)
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Kouzelny Dedecek
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
1
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Posted - 2015.03.25 16:21:39 -
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inflamer wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:inflamer wrote:Since freezes seem to occur randomly and without notice, this makes it very risky to use the Mac client for anything which involves flying in space, since a freeze at the wrong moment could cost the player a ship + clone. 1. Quit all other applications. 2. Disable audio (or set music level to 0). 3. Disable the 'Use multithreaded OpenGL' option. It may not necessarily solve your issues, but most of us have had very good success with these actions. While I appreciate these tips (and will certainly try these out:)), if I have to quit all other applications as well as disable audio, I might as well bootcamp into Windows 8 (Which is fine and no big deal, but as there is a Mac client available today, I would hope that CCP could address this issue sooner rather than later) :) I recommend reading this entire thread. It was posted on page 1 or 2 that using the clonemaker would alleviate a lot of the crashing issues regarding client shutdown while multiboxing etc. I ran 5 clients most of last night with out any issues, with sound on in all of them.
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Dybbuch
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
73
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Posted - 2015.03.25 16:26:46 -
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Emergent Launcher Wobble: (So far the deployment has been for me .. pretty damn good .. and the fact that there ARE ongoing convos with suppliers re improving the Mac performance has me doing cartwheels) BUT with each patch the launcher loses all my account info .. whereas it used to store a dropdown list of the accounts not a major issue and if thats all i have to deal with .. Meh
Agony is Recruiting
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3238
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Posted - 2015.03.25 16:49:41 -
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CCP Sledgehammer wrote:Manssell wrote:O.k. I'm a bit confused I thought do to the famous Mac bug where we crash if you download stuff in the background that the Mac wasn't getting the download on demand? I believe a DEV mentioned this a week or so ago in the Sisi feedback thread. So has something changed with the crashing while downloading, or did we just unleash a wave of crashes on newbies who think they can run this on their mac? We introduced a workaround for that issue. We're hoping that come the next Cider upgrade this will not be an issue at all. Is there a time frame for that new cider upgrade? Days, weeks, months, or years away?
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Nometh Xergent
Heineken Space Program
1241
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Posted - 2015.03.25 19:40:08 -
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I just got back to EVE aftera break as i saw the new patch SCYLLA. And i read about the Download on demand launcher, i just can't get it to work. It still downloads 7 gb like before. And i did uninstall it before. So this is a clean install.
Am i doing something wrong?
"Unfortunately, the Mac OS X Client installation will only be available as Offline Installer at this point in time."
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3239
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Posted - 2015.03.25 21:06:12 -
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Aye. Download on demand has two options for PC users: Actual DoD, and pre-download everything. Due to a bug in Cider, Macs freeze when eve is running and a download is taking place. So CCP locked the mac client to the pre-downloading everything option.
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Henry Montclaire
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
159
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Posted - 2015.03.25 21:30:00 -
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Hey, I have a concern. My internal hard drive is really starved for space, so I have EVE installed on an external hard drive, but it seems like EVE wants to set up this shared resource cache on my internal hard drive. I really don't have room for 12 more GBs of stuff on my internal hard drive. Is there a way to move this cache so it's made on my external drive?
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Darryn Lowe
Western Madman Dictatorship
34
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Posted - 2015.03.25 22:52:55 -
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Kimimaro Yoga wrote:Ohe thing I noticed that isn't necessarily broken, but is a Bad Thing(Gäó) about the shared cache. It's not installed in the Applications folder, or the /Library folder, it's installed in the /user/Library/Application Support folder *of the user who ran the update*. This means either a: someone logging in to a different account on that machine won't be able to play Eve, or b: That person can play Eve, but only because the Eve client is somehow bypassing security restrictions on accessing other user's data.
Please seriously consider relocating the cache to the main Library folder to avoid potential problems with this. Well unless you have a specific reason for wanting different users to have different game installs, for all practical purposes. Incorrect. It's only the data files that are placed in this location meaning anyone logging in with a different account will end up having their own preferences created. The application though, assumming you placed the application in Applications folder, will be accessible to everyone. |
Arthur Aihaken
Narada
4215
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Posted - 2015.03.26 01:06:14 -
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The Scylla client was stable until today. I experienced a lockup when I went to loot the cargo from a MTU in an L4 mission. On a side note, the MTU doesn't seem to be collecting the contents of containers. It tractors them in, but just leaves them sitting there unopened.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
454
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:36:49 -
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My Beta Map is empty. I sent in a bug report. |
Russal Aya
Stacmon Production and Trade Institue
0
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Posted - 2015.03.26 07:24:12 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Ive been monitoring the downloading by the clones I made. I made new ones as recommended by CCP. They are still downloading a set of ResFiles all their own. The folder is up to 1.2 gig, just flying around Jita for 15 minutes.
Also, even with the new clones, I am getting freeze-crashes. But now they come with an exception notice, asking if I want to report the crash. (I have done so 4 times now). Oddly, once that exception window pops up, the game un-freezes.
These events are happening at the start or end of warps. I'm guessing they are caused by the background DoD that the client is doing, despite having an alias to the ResFile of the main instal.
Edit: I think I sorted the issue. Here is what NOT to do:
Update main instal. Run an old clone See CCP's notice about the need for a new clone maker. Get the new clonemaker Delete old clones, make new ones
The issue is the new clones still use the old files in Application support. Those got used when I ran the old clones with a client that uses DoD. The result is the new clonemakerr put the alias to the SharedCache in the wrong place.
Here is what works: (And I did by accident with one clone.)
Update main instal. See CCP's notice about the need for a new clone maker. Get the new clonemaker Delete old clones, make new ones
Here is the fix if you did it wrong:
Go to Library/Application Support/Eve Online clone/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache In SheredCache there will be an alias to your main SharedCache folder in your main instal. Drag that onto the desktop for now. Trash the folder SharedCache. Drag the alias SharedCache back to take it's place.
CCP: What you can do to make this issue go away: When the clonemaker tries to put the alias SharedCache in Library/Application Support/Eve Online clone/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE, there will be a problem if a folder named SharedCache is already there. The Alias ends up in the wrong place. What you need the script to do is first trash the SharedCache folder, then make the alias.
Thank you for this. I was having this problem, exactly as you described, exactly because I did what you said I did wrong. I did the fix exactly as you described, and now my clone now works.
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Nicolas Quasar
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
1
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Posted - 2015.03.26 08:59:05 -
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New login bar animation is too bad. Return old style. |
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
519
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Posted - 2015.03.26 11:26:44 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:The Scylla client was stable until today. I experienced a lockup when I went to loot the cargo from a MTU in an L4 mission. On a side note, the MTU doesn't seem to be collecting the contents of containers. It tractors them in, but just leaves them sitting there unopened. Thanks for the report on this. I've been unable to reproduce this issue locally, if it continues to occur could you please submit a bug report through the F12 menu and Ill follow up on it.
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
@CCP_Lebowski
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CCP Sledgehammer
C C P C C P Alliance
383
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Posted - 2015.03.26 11:38:42 -
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Henry Montclaire wrote:Hey, I have a concern. My internal hard drive is really starved for space, so I have EVE installed on an external hard drive, but it seems like EVE wants to set up this shared resource cache on my internal hard drive. I really don't have room for 12 more GBs of stuff on my internal hard drive. Is there a way to move this cache so it's made on my external drive?
Hi Henry,
You can set the cache location in the Launcher's settings: Cog in top right of launcher > Download tab > Shared Cache Location.
You can then copy the contents of your old shared Cache into that to save on downloading updates again.
Graphical QA Analyst | EVE Quality Assurance | Team TriLambda
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Arthur Aihaken
Narada
4220
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:08:31 -
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CCP Lebowski wrote:Thanks for the report on this. I've been unable to reproduce this issue locally, if it continues to occur could you please submit a bug report through the F12 menu and Ill follow up on it. Absolutely. I'll spend some time running missions with a MTU today to see if I can reproduce it.
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Tom Hawkins
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.03.26 23:49:11 -
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Well, I seem to be having a strange issue. Since Scylla hit, my launcher will hit 5% patch, go to 0%, then up to 10% and drop back down to 0% with nothing after that for even half an hour or more.
The last two days I've downloaded a clean install once a day, and can get online after that. It's just after downtime and a new update comes out that it refuses to work. So I'm assuming that it has to do with either the new download system, or how my computer is trying to handle it.
I can't seem to change the download location inside the launcher settings, the navigation is greyed out and not modifiable.
My set up is on an separate hard drive, so I don't know if that is an issue. |
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