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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
368
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Posted - 2015.03.26 06:34:28 -
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Ottom Ephesianos wrote:Graelyn wrote:MmHm.
However, I will gladly accede to the incredible quality of some Gallente vinyards. It pains me for a moment when I find one superior to our best. Then I pop the cork and that pain is forgotten.
But Beer? The Harvest Ascended? The First Gift of Heaven?
The Monks of the brewing Orders stand alone. Obviously your zealousness of Amarr craftsmanship has dulled your taste buds to the truly delicious and intoxicating port rums that come out of Minmatar space.
Minmatar...port?
You serious mate? Our beer isn't that good and our best brew is quite close to being cleaning alcohol with hops and wheat flavour in it.
If you talk Minmatar drinks you talk coffee. Our coffee is the stuff of the divines!
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
38
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Posted - 2015.03.26 19:33:31 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Ottom Ephesianos wrote:Graelyn wrote:MmHm.
However, I will gladly accede to the incredible quality of some Gallente vinyards. It pains me for a moment when I find one superior to our best. Then I pop the cork and that pain is forgotten.
But Beer? The Harvest Ascended? The First Gift of Heaven?
The Monks of the brewing Orders stand alone. Obviously your zealousness of Amarr craftsmanship has dulled your taste buds to the truly delicious and intoxicating port rums that come out of Minmatar space. Minmatar...port? You serious mate? Our beer isn't that good and our best brew is quite close to being cleaning alcohol with hops and wheat flavour in it. If you talk Minmatar drinks you talk coffee. Our coffee is the stuff of the divines!
I will take you out drinking with myself and my crew and you will see how tasteful a bottle of Minmatar port is with a full meal of Slaver Hound tale and potatoes.
I truly jest about the tale.
On coffee, yes that is exceptional now that you mention it.
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Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
38
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Posted - 2015.03.26 19:36:07 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:How is this thread getting two page's worth of responses? How are any of them getting any responses.
Stop it already. The less you pay attention to crazy people the faster they will go away.
On that note, this thread is now about delicious beer.
I like the dark ones and the fruity ones that get you drunk in two sips. Discuss.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4574
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Posted - 2015.03.26 21:28:52 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Since Caldari reactors are based on graviton theory, I'd be really interested in what would happen with an improperly shielded core...
Actually, on second thoughts, let's keep that completely theoretical. I've no wish to have strange-bosons wandering all over the place in warp. Oh, I forgot to mention that there are bosons circulating under your feet every time you walk around in a spaceship or a space station. How else would you stay rooted to the flooring panels rather than on the ceiling or walls? The difference is between circulating and wandering. Eh, wandering bosons in warp shouldn't be any worse than being thrown around in a rocking sense-deprivation chamber.
Microgravities can do horrendous damage to equipment and people - but you really need a field to go awry, not a little stray gravitic radiation.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
369
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Posted - 2015.03.27 01:24:41 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Since Caldari reactors are based on graviton theory, I'd be really interested in what would happen with an improperly shielded core...
Actually, on second thoughts, let's keep that completely theoretical. I've no wish to have strange-bosons wandering all over the place in warp. Oh, I forgot to mention that there are bosons circulating under your feet every time you walk around in a spaceship or a space station. How else would you stay rooted to the flooring panels rather than on the ceiling or walls? The difference is between circulating and wandering. Eh, wandering bosons in warp shouldn't be any worse than being thrown around in a rocking sense-deprivation chamber. Microgravities can do horrendous damage to equipment and people - but you really need a field to go awry, not a little stray gravitic radiation.
Well, thank the automation engineers for coming up with that system that shuts down all attempts to activate a warp drive whenever a leak in the collider tubes are detected. Can't allow the generation of any sort of vacuum environment whenever there's a boson leak.
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
38
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Posted - 2015.03.27 02:32:50 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Microgravities can do horrendous damage to equipment and people - but you really need a field to go awry, not a little stray gravitic radiation.
Well, thank the automation engineers for coming up with that system that shuts down all attempts to activate a warp drive whenever a leak in the collider tubes are detected. Can't allow the generation of any sort of vacuum environment whenever there's a boson leak. Ottom Ephesianos wrote: I will take you out drinking with myself and my crew and you will see how tasteful a bottle of Minmatar port is with a full meal of Slaver Hound tale and potatoes.
I truly jest about the tale.
On coffee, yes that is exceptional now that you mention it.
I spend most of my off hours drinking with my crew and support staff whenever I'm not tinkering with anything. I am Matari. Almost all of my crew and support staff are Matari. Our dining habits are very distinctively Matari, with song and dance and the occasional boasting. I know exactly what our port tastes like. It's not that good. 40 percent ethanol, prime ingredients being oats or wheat with some hops added. Also yeast. Sometimes something else entirely, as long as it ferments. Some of our liquor could even have alcohol content as high as 70 percent, depending on how it's made. We drink the stuff to knock ourselves out. We also use the stuff to clean wounds and to clean our equipment. The ones with the highest alcohol content is also sometimes used to clean engine parts, if no other detergent is available. You will be surprised how well those dissolve stains. And tales of Slaver Hounds? None of us Matari like talking about Slaver Hounds other than as cautionary tales. Remember that throughout our pre-rebellion history we had been blighted by the damned things. Used to be that escaped slaves had Slaver Hounds pouncing on them from way high up (branches and everything. They are very agile climbers. Great vertical maneuverability) and got their throats ripped out. Some of the more brutal slave-owners will even make arenas where the slaves were pitted against Slaver Hounds (spoiler alert: the Slaver Hounds always win). How about that part where the slaves were released into great plains en-masse once a month so that they will be hunted down by Slaver Hounds for sport? No, none of us like Slaver Hounds much. We do not enjoy talking about Slaver Hounds except as fables or to share information about the roving trajectory of wild Slaver Hound packs.
I have been planet side to some of the less war torn Minmatar Tribes where slavery is more a thing of the past while the war still rages on in space. In these small hamlets of civilian culture you will find things like, rehabilitated slaver hounds instead of rehabilitated slaves. You will also find the fastest warp core developers in the field.
These are the places where I find these ports and these are the places where ethanol is used to degrease an engine while the port is exquisite.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
369
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Posted - 2015.03.27 03:27:00 -
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Ottom Ephesianos wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Microgravities can do horrendous damage to equipment and people - but you really need a field to go awry, not a little stray gravitic radiation.
Well, thank the automation engineers for coming up with that system that shuts down all attempts to activate a warp drive whenever a leak in the collider tubes are detected. Can't allow the generation of any sort of vacuum environment whenever there's a boson leak. Ottom Ephesianos wrote: I will take you out drinking with myself and my crew and you will see how tasteful a bottle of Minmatar port is with a full meal of Slaver Hound tale and potatoes.
I truly jest about the tale.
On coffee, yes that is exceptional now that you mention it.
I spend most of my off hours drinking with my crew and support staff whenever I'm not tinkering with anything. I am Matari. Almost all of my crew and support staff are Matari. Our dining habits are very distinctively Matari, with song and dance and the occasional boasting. I know exactly what our port tastes like. It's not that good. 40 percent ethanol, prime ingredients being oats or wheat with some hops added. Also yeast. Sometimes something else entirely, as long as it ferments. Some of our liquor could even have alcohol content as high as 70 percent, depending on how it's made. We drink the stuff to knock ourselves out. We also use the stuff to clean wounds and to clean our equipment. The ones with the highest alcohol content is also sometimes used to clean engine parts, if no other detergent is available. You will be surprised how well those dissolve stains. And tales of Slaver Hounds? None of us Matari like talking about Slaver Hounds other than as cautionary tales. Remember that throughout our pre-rebellion history we had been blighted by the damned things. Used to be that escaped slaves had Slaver Hounds pouncing on them from way high up (branches and everything. They are very agile climbers. Great vertical maneuverability) and got their throats ripped out. Some of the more brutal slave-owners will even make arenas where the slaves were pitted against Slaver Hounds (spoiler alert: the Slaver Hounds always win). How about that part where the slaves were released into great plains en-masse once a month so that they will be hunted down by Slaver Hounds for sport? No, none of us like Slaver Hounds much. We do not enjoy talking about Slaver Hounds except as fables or to share information about the roving trajectory of wild Slaver Hound packs. I have been planet side to some of the less war torn Minmatar Tribes where slavery is more a thing of the past while the war still rages on in space. In these small hamlets of civilian culture you will find things like, rehabilitated slaver hounds instead of rehabilitated slaves. You will also find the fastest warp core developers in the field. These are the places where I find these ports and these are the places where ethanol is used to degrease an engine while the port is exquisite.
Slavery IS a thing of the past everywhere there are actual Minmatar clans and tribes taking residence. The Amarr Empire are in the habit of replacing the culture of the enslaved races with their own.
You *can't* rehabilitate Slaver Hounds. They are, by instinct, highly vicious predators. You have to tame then, the way the Amarr did, to get any use out of them beyond losing all your limbs. The Amarr have spent many generations trying to tame them and breed out the species's highly aggressive instincts, with some degree of success. For one they no longer go after just about anyone and can be ordered to de-aggress, sit and roll-over. Still, that predatory instinct hasn't been breed out entirely and many an Amarr hound-tamer still get mauled from time to time.
Why they even keep Slaver Hounds around children is beyond me.
Warp core drives are developed NOT in low sec. The place is too unstable, too vulnerable to pirate raids, to encourage any investment in high tech industry in those locations. What manufacturing industry that occurs at all take place in the security of space station where there are heavily armed capsuleers to protect their investments. You want warp core development Matari-side? Boundless Creation in the core worlds is where it's at. That or Thukker magic in the Great Wildlands.
Seriously. Thukkers man. Those guys are amazing.
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
4148
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Posted - 2015.03.27 14:22:33 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Since Caldari reactors are based on graviton theory, I'd be really interested in what would happen with an improperly shielded core...
The shielding is an integral part of the reactor. If it's not perfect, the core just evaporates.
You get a nice high-energy gamma burst from it, though. Very pretty, from a distance. Like, say, a few kilometers.
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1912
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Posted - 2015.03.28 11:56:34 -
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Ottom was wrong when he flew with FU2 all those years ago, and he's still wrong now.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
371
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Posted - 2015.03.28 12:31:41 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:Ottom was wrong when he flew with FU2 all those years ago, and he's still wrong now.
Honestly though, he is wrong in so many things, from Amarr religion to the natural behaviour of Slaver Hounds to Matari culture that I doubt he has actually left the confinement of some cell to mingle with, well, anything since he was born. It's like he is a brain locked in jar with electrodes stuck to the cerebrum feeding it whatever erroneous information some other party felt like divulging.
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Sinjin Mokk
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2015.03.28 16:13:22 -
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Ottom Ephesianos wrote: I use Artillary and autocannons to disable ships before I board them.
Maybe you'd have better luck opening the hatch and throwing spears at them?
Slugthrowers? Really?
And you call yourself Amarr...
Dark Amarr: Interlude
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
371
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Posted - 2015.03.28 16:46:37 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:Ottom Ephesianos wrote: I use Artillary and autocannons to disable ships before I board them.
Maybe you'd have better luck opening the hatch and throwing spears at them? Slugthrowers? Really? And you call yourself Amarr...
Oi! We no longer fire solid slugs (unless you are talking Titanium Sabot, which are supposed to pierce armour)! It's more exotic stuff now, phased plasma, nuclear fusion, contained EM charges, etc etc. these days.
Though seriously, the modern shipboard projectile weapon isn't a really good option for disabling ships. Most of the time you leave very little to board once you are done.
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
38
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Posted - 2015.03.28 19:18:34 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote:Ottom Ephesianos wrote: I use Artillary and autocannons to disable ships before I board them.
Maybe you'd have better luck opening the hatch and throwing spears at them? Slugthrowers? Really? And you call yourself Amarr... Oi! We no longer fire solid slugs (unless you are talking Titanium Sabot, which are supposed to pierce armour)! It's more exotic stuff now, phased plasma, nuclear fusion, contained EM charges, etc etc. these days. Though seriously, the modern shipboard projectile weapon isn't a really good option for disabling ships. Most of the time you leave very little to board once you are done.
I'm a sharp shooter mate. I hit the spot and board the pot. I don't shoot to slave I shoot to save. Then I sell the musical grave to a musician who can pay. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
371
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Posted - 2015.03.29 04:34:44 -
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Ottom Ephesianos wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote:Ottom Ephesianos wrote: I use Artillary and autocannons to disable ships before I board them.
Maybe you'd have better luck opening the hatch and throwing spears at them? Slugthrowers? Really? And you call yourself Amarr... Oi! We no longer fire solid slugs (unless you are talking Titanium Sabot, which are supposed to pierce armour)! It's more exotic stuff now, phased plasma, nuclear fusion, contained EM charges, etc etc. these days. Though seriously, the modern shipboard projectile weapon isn't a really good option for disabling ships. Most of the time you leave very little to board once you are done. I'm a sharp shooter mate. I hit the spot and board the pot. I don't shoot to slave I shoot to save. Then I sell the musical grave to a musician who can pay.
And you forgot that 5000m is still a very, very long distance that will give trouble to even the most accurate sharpshooter to land a headshot.
Also, our projectile weapons do not leave clean little holes. All, except Titanium Sabot, explode upon impact. Some explode after a delay (especially the case with Fusion rounds). A 125mm Barrage round leaves less of a hole and more of a torn-up breach to multiple decks. 125mm is also the bare minimum to be considered 'orbital bombardment grade'. After hammering that many rounds into a target to tear through the shields and to pound the armour and to eat into the hull, do you seriously think there would be much left to board at all? You will need a salvager to get anything useful out of it. Let's not start with the much larger rounds.
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Anabella Rella
Gradient
1930
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Posted - 2015.03.29 05:04:07 -
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There's some pretty amazing whiskey coming from the Thukker caravans roaming the Great Wildlands. I also rate the ales that come from Mikramurka as some of the best I've tasted. For wines I stick with the old chateau vintages of Caille.
Make fun of projectile weapons all you like but they're still very efficient and quite effective. The bigger the hole the better as far as I'm concerned. Also, there's a lot to be said for the ability to continue fighting after having one's capacitor neutralized.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
371
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Posted - 2015.03.29 05:11:08 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:There's some pretty amazing whiskey coming from the Thukker caravans roaming the Great Wildlands. I also rate the ales that come from Mikramurka as some of the best I've tasted. For wines I stick with the old chateau vintages of Caille.
Make fun of projectile weapons all you like but they're still very efficient and quite effective. The bigger the hole the better as far as I'm concerned. Also, there's a lot to be said for the ability to continue fighting after having one's capacitor neutralized.
As I mentioned, the modern shipboard projectile weapons are great for simply tearing targets down to size but are terrible if one plans to board that ship afterwards.
Lasers are much better options for boarding considering that they do not pierce the outer superstructure to cut into the interior per shot. Nothing beats energy neutralizers with ECM support if one plans to actually board the ship though.
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4586
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Posted - 2015.03.29 05:47:11 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:There's some pretty amazing whiskey coming from the Thukker caravans roaming the Great Wildlands. I also rate the ales that come from Mikramurka as some of the best I've tasted. For wines I stick with the old chateau vintages of Caille.
Make fun of projectile weapons all you like but they're still very efficient and quite effective. The bigger the hole the better as far as I'm concerned. Also, there's a lot to be said for the ability to continue fighting after having one's capacitor neutralized.
And for those who like to do all that at very long ranges there's your friend the humble missile.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
912
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Posted - 2015.03.29 08:31:43 -
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Projectile chemical weapons are often underestimated due to their ancestors being what they were : slugthrowers. However considering the speed alone at which projectiles are sent, which makes them almost as instantaneous than railguns or lasers (at least on a scale that counts on a battlefield), hint to a lot more advanced weaponry than just slugthrowers. |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
4157
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Posted - 2015.03.29 12:26:34 -
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Modern projectile guns project a microwarp tunnel. The field collapses just short of the target so as to allow the round to actually hit rather than just phasing through the matter of its intended victim. That and the turret aiming array account for pretty much all of the power draw on those things. Without the microwap field those guns would have hardly any power draw at all, but they'd also have an effective range of... oh, about ten kilometers at the most? Against large and slow targets?
Then there's the sheer flexibility of projectile ammo. frankly, that's an area that's not properly been explored yet. Sure, mixing it up with EMP, phased plasma, or just good old-fashioned morphite-enriched nuclear fission is all well and good, but some of the larger calibers are so big you could do damn near anything with them. How about... CRU rounds full of combat clones? Interdiction field rounds that clamp onto the hull? Grey goo rounds full of Ravager nanites?
Given the comparatively slow speeds these things move at in real terms, inertial stabilizers would more than do the job of keeping such specialist ammunition intact.
Claiming that projectile weaponry is "primitive" and "useless" betrays a terminal shortcoming in both imagination and in powers of observation.
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
912
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Posted - 2015.03.29 16:44:43 -
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I wonder where you saw that projectile tech uses what... ? Microwarp fields ?
You are aware that warp or microwarp fields necessitate capacitor energy, right ? |
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
4159
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Posted - 2015.03.31 13:45:07 -
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what do you think all that powergrid draw is going on, the loading mechanism?
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
373
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Posted - 2015.03.31 15:06:21 -
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Stitcher wrote:what do you think all that powergrid draw is going on, the loading mechanism?
Shell auto-loaders, mag-lock clamps, in-built gyrostabilizers, recoil compensators, case-ejectors, conveyors mechanisms, magazine loaders, revolving motors, built-in tracking computers, coolant ejectors, etc etc etc. All these run on continuous power. Each and every one of these turrets is capable of leading targets individually, and each and every one of them fire their payload with enough force to propel them towards their targets at sublight speed, which is why it seemed as though the damage is instantaneously applied, assuming a confirmed hit.
None of these are perfect, hence the terrible optimal range of autocannons and the relatively short optimals of artilleries compared to the other long-range options.
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
4159
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Posted - 2015.03.31 15:30:41 -
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Quote:Shell auto-loaders, mag-lock clamps, in-built gyrostabilizers, recoil compensators, case-ejectors, conveyors mechanisms, magazine loaders, revolving motors, built-in tracking computers, coolant ejectors, etc etc etc.
If all of those combined require even a single megawatt, let alone the kind of draw that is actually siphoned into a ship's gun, then the Matari reputation for engineering genius may be a touch overrated.
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
38
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Posted - 2015.03.31 16:21:07 -
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Stitcher wrote:Quote:Shell auto-loaders, mag-lock clamps, in-built gyrostabilizers, recoil compensators, case-ejectors, conveyors mechanisms, magazine loaders, revolving motors, built-in tracking computers, coolant ejectors, etc etc etc. If all of those combined require even a single megawatt, let alone the kind of draw that is actually siphoned into a ship's gun, then the Matari reputation for engineering genius may be a touch overrated.
"capacitor is empty." rattatat "capacitor is empty." rattattatat
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
373
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Posted - 2015.03.31 17:27:33 -
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Stitcher wrote:Quote:Shell auto-loaders, mag-lock clamps, in-built gyrostabilizers, recoil compensators, case-ejectors, conveyors mechanisms, magazine loaders, revolving motors, built-in tracking computers, coolant ejectors, etc etc etc. If all of those combined require even a single megawatt, let alone the kind of draw that is actually siphoned into a ship's gun, then the Matari reputation for engineering genius may be a touch overrated.
You will be surprised how much power all the mechanical parts consume. Especially the mag-clamps and the magnetically-driven chambering mechanisms. Our turrets are very, very heavily mechanized. Do not underestimate the power draw of a fully mechanized weapons system, especially semi-intelligent mechanized weapons systems that can track targets independently and perform ballistic calculations, with much help from the capsuleer's own brain power, autonomously.
Remember, when you are fitting a gun turret on a ship, you are not just clamping turrets onto the hard points, you are also fitting the entire gunnery deck with support machinery specialized for this particular turret. All of that consumes alot of power. That's why it's called 'high slot'.
If we were projecting microwarp tunnels with our turrets our turrets would be drawing capacitor.
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
915
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Posted - 2015.03.31 19:19:57 -
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Stitcher wrote:what do you think all that powergrid draw is going on, the loading mechanism?
Then powergrid systems and not capacitor energy would be used for warp and microwarp operations. |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
4163
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Posted - 2015.04.01 00:40:12 -
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Energy is Energy. Doesn't matter if it comes from the cap or the powergrid, it's all the same thing.
Stop allowing MWD modules that are used to shunt whole starships around to confuse you. There's nothing magic about warp fields which states that the energy HAS to come from a capacitor, that's just how it works in the specific case of starship MWDs because that's the most practical way to hold some power in reserve and apply it when needed.
When you get down to it, the energy stored in your capacitor and the energy showing through your powergrid are exactly the same thing. The cap is just a means of storing energy and rapidly releasing it on demand, it's not a different category of thing.
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
375
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Posted - 2015.04.01 01:43:03 -
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Stitcher wrote:Energy is Energy. Doesn't matter if it comes from the cap or the powergrid, it's all the same.
Stop allowing MWD modules that are used to shunt whole starships around to confuse you. There's nothing magic about warp fields which states that the energy HAS to come from a capacitor, that's just how it works in the specific case of starship MWDs because that's the most practical way to hold some power in reserve and apply it when needed.
When you get down to it, the energy stored in your capacitor and the energy flowing through your powergrid are exactly the same thing. The cap is just a means of storing energy and rapidly releasing it on demand, it's not a different category of thing.
Capacitor and powergrid energy is the same, but the utilisation of said energy is different. There is a good reason why laser turrets and hybrid blasters do not run on continuous power. It's just plain inefficient.
The projection of microwarp tunnels requires the use of energy in BURSTS, and will necessitate the use of the capacitor. Using that energy continuously is inefficient and is also bad design. If you do not need all that excess energy when the turrets are at rest, you are better off just storing it in the capacitor for future use.
The reason why the turrets use alot of continuous energy is, as I mentioned already, partly due to the high degree of mechanization of the turrets and the support machinery and also the amount of horsepower needed to turn the turret fast enough to track a fast moving target flying at the speed of, say, 900m/s, at 500m. Especially a turret that weights 500kg (125mm gatling autocannons) not including support structures in the mounts to prevent the turret from ripping itself off said mounts due to the recoil caused by firing a shell the length of your forearm with enough power to propel them at sublight speed!
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
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Posted - 2015.04.01 02:19:55 -
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Pick up any piece of cheap store-brought consumer electronics and you'll be holding an item which itself contains at least one capacitor. A capacitor is nothing ore or less than a device for storing charge and releasing it when needed.
Starships don't contain one capacitor, they contain thousands. As do lasers, railguns, blasters and, yes, autocannons and howitzers.
Meanwhile, here is a piece of news for you: it is not physically possible to propel a round to anything remotely resembling a relativistic speed using chemical propellant alone, no matter how efficient the burn or the shape of the chamber. I won't go into the full detail of compressible flow here, but suffice it to say that the maximum velocity of a gas is given by the following equation:[link]
Where cp is the specific heat of the gas and Tt is the stagnation temperature of the flow.
Obviously, a projectile cannot reach a speed higher than that of the expanding gas which is accelerating it. Which means that, if we left it to pure chemistry, this equation would put a hard cap on projectile muzzle velocities which would make them utterly useless for ship-to-ship combat at anything but the most extreme close-range.
Getting those rounds out to hundreds of Km and scoring an effectively immediate hit requires the intervention of a technological solution. Without it, howitzer rounds would move slower than missiles, without the benefit of on-board guidance.
That solution is microwarp fields. I don't know why you're so hung up on assuming that the power for this MUST come from the ship's capacitor, or that the gun itself is not capable of housing its own capacitor systems to provide the necessary timed discharge.
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Tyrel Toov
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.04.01 02:38:27 -
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You have all been lied to. Our artillery shells are lobbed down range by Brutor tribesmen, and the auto cannons have children in them doing the same.
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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