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IntegralHellsing
Gallente Blazing Saddles
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Posted - 2006.10.22 11:37:00 -
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Some questions are doubt raised by me from listening to one of my sources who gave some info. (Can't tell who that is :P)
1. ASCN changed its standing towards MC as +2.5 in order to 'build a bridge' so that MC doesn't strike ASCN after the war with IAC. True or False?
2. The other reason for standing change, is so that ASCN can negotiate a hire of MC. True or False?
3. It has been said that ASCN offered lots of ISK to MC. (10s of Billions in ISK. Possibly 50 or more in ISK.) IF ASCN does offer MC this amount of money which can be used to build several outposts, would MC accept the offer of ASCN and start killing BoB? IF ASCN DID offer MC and MC rejected it, what would the reasons be? IF ASCN DID offer or is willing to offer MC to hire, then why would that be? (appart from just killing bobs.)
4. Would MC decide to attack ASCN once the IAC contract finishes?
These are my main questions. oh, you can flame it or not. i am just merely asking something i am curious about, and i am not trolling around. Just wanted to know how ASCN and MC relationship would esccalate. ------------------------------
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kahle
Paralex Research
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Posted - 2006.10.22 11:41:00 -
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1) who would blame them
2) i'm sure MC would take a contract regardless of past events providing the money and objectives are good (from what I've read in the past MC like clearly defined objectives)
3) dunno, its also been said in the past that a BoB contract would require a lot of isk, I for one would like to see it happen just for the forum drama
4) no idea, probably not without a contract
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Ricky Baby
Beagle Corp R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.10.22 11:43:00 -
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1. ASCN changed its standing towards MC as +2.5 in order to 'build a bridge' so that MC doesn't strike ASCN after the war with IAC. who knows
2. The other reason for standing change, is so that ASCN can negotiate a hire of MC. who knows
3. It has been said that ASCN offered lots of ISK to MC. (10s of Billions in ISK. Possibly 50 or more in ISK.) MC have stated before that they will fight bob "if the price was right"
IF ASCN DID offer MC and MC rejected it, what would the reasons be? not enough iskies
IF ASCN DID offer or is willing to offer MC to hire, then why would that be? (appart from just killing bobs.) mine veld?
4. Would MC decide to attack ASCN once the IAC contract finishes? if someone paid em to yea
These are my main questions. oh, you can flame it or not. i am just merely asking something i am curious about, and i am not trolling around. Just wanted to know how ASCN and MC relationship would esccalate.
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Mynas Atoch
Caldari ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.22 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: IntegralHellsing Some questions are doubt raised by me from listening to one of my sources who gave some info. (Can't tell who that is :P)
1. ASCN changed its standing towards MC as +2.5 in order to 'build a bridge' so that MC doesn't strike ASCN after the war with IAC. True or False?
2. The other reason for standing change, is so that ASCN can negotiate a hire of MC. True or False?
3. It has been said that ASCN offered lots of ISK to MC. (10s of Billions in ISK. Possibly 50 or more in ISK.) IF ASCN does offer MC this amount of money which can be used to build several outposts, would MC accept the offer of ASCN and start killing BoB? IF ASCN DID offer MC and MC rejected it, what would the reasons be? IF ASCN DID offer or is willing to offer MC to hire, then why would that be? (appart from just killing bobs.)
4. Would MC decide to attack ASCN once the IAC contract finishes?
These are my main questions. oh, you can flame it or not. i am just merely asking something i am curious about, and i am not trolling around. Just wanted to know how ASCN and MC relationship would esccalate.
You must be new here. Welcome to eVe.
MC are what is known as a 'mercenary' company .. actually, a few of them joined by an alliance. Mercenaries do stuff for money .. in this game, isk. Mercenaries try not to be seen to pick sides, unless there is money in it.
Myn
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Trooper B99
Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.22 11:57:00 -
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Thank you for your interest in the MC.
Any negotiations, contractual or otherwise are between them and us and are not part of the public domain unless we feel that the public need to know.
Thank you for your time.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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IntegralHellsing
Gallente Blazing Saddles
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Posted - 2006.10.22 12:14:00 -
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Edited by: IntegralHellsing on 22/10/2006 12:14:21 well i know MC is a merc alliance. but what i don't know is that whether they consider politics a bit as well?
(because of the fact that they live in BoB space, and in this case, i was curious as to the doubt that MC would receive payment to fight.
ps. yeah i am new to EVE politics and mercs. ------------------------------
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.10.22 12:45:00 -
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MC would fight BoB if you paid them enough.
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juduzz
Amarr Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.22 12:53:00 -
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these are more then likely the reasons/answers from what MC was like when i was a member.
1. ASCN changed its standing towards MC as +2.5 in order to 'build a bridge' so that MC doesn't strike ASCN after the war with IAC. True or False?
Proberly because they were blue before the IAC thing, because cyvok and sel had mutal respect ect, after being -10 to each since time began.
2. The other reason for standing change, is so that ASCN can negotiate a hire of MC. True or False?
No ones business but there, im shure we will all know when hue makes a return
3. It has been said that ASCN offered lots of ISK to MC. (10s of Billions in ISK. Possibly 50 or more in ISK.) IF ASCN does offer MC this amount of money which can be used to build several outposts, would MC accept the offer of ASCN and start killing BoB? IF ASCN DID offer MC and MC rejected it, what would the reasons be? IF ASCN DID offer or is willing to offer MC to hire, then why would that be? (appart from just killing bobs.)
Does this have to be brought up for the 27th time? :P MC said they would attack any one even bob if the price was right and had a descent plan BOB knows and excepts it yet no ever does try to hire em.
4. Would MC decide to attack ASCN once the IAC contract finishes?
Proberly if some one pays them and it sounds like an enjoyable contract but they wouldnt attack em as blues its not the MC way.undefined
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Mace Ardguy
Dark Wheel
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Posted - 2006.10.22 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: IntegralHellsing ps. yeah i am new to EVE politics and mercs.
Didn't I read in another thread that you were kicked out of ASCN?
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Romulus Maximus
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.22 14:23:00 -
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LOL
50 whole billion ? Imagine they took a contract. Went all out war. Both parties could lose outposts etc. Now lets say we won, and MC retreated. How many outposts and pos would they lose ? How much isk is that ? Where would they carebear ? They would lose a huge source of income. Be it plexes, Ore, whatever. So, they could make 50 bil..But could lose that in ships alone. Let alone multiple outposts and pos. And any future income from thier home.
Im sure Seleene is just writing the acceptance memo now
Beside, most of our mums wont buy us new pcs. SO we cant really run multiple accounts
Current RKK Ranking: (AMM14) Fleet Admiral - 900 kills
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.22 15:39:00 -
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Here are the answers to the specific questions:
1.) None of your buisness.
2.) None of your buisness.
3.) None of your buisness.
4.) None of your buisness.
Thank you for calling the MC Confidential Information Hotline. Your credit card has been charged 500,000 isk. -
Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters? |
Kaiu
Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.10.22 15:44:00 -
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Anyone who honestly believes the MC would go against BOB need to share what they're smoking ____________________ MOGarmy
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.22 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Here are the answers to the specific questions:
1.) None of your buisness.
2.) None of your buisness.
3.) None of your buisness.
4.) None of your buisness.
Thank you for calling the MC Confidential Information Hotline. Your credit card has been charged 500,000 isk.
You misspelled bidniss.
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.22 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Romulus Maximus LOL
50 whole billion ? Imagine they took a contract. Went all out war. Both parties could lose outposts etc. Now lets say we won, and MC retreated. How many outposts and pos would they lose ? How much isk is that ? Where would they carebear ? They would lose a huge source of income. Be it plexes, Ore, whatever. So, they could make 50 bil..But could lose that in ships alone. Let alone multiple outposts and pos. And any future income from thier home.
Im sure Seleene is just writing the acceptance memo now
Beside, most of our mums wont buy us new pcs. SO we cant really run multiple accounts
So what your saying is Mc is in Bob's pocket? Any MC care to comment on that?
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Crovan
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.22 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog MC would shoot their grandmothers in the face if you paid them enough.
Fixed it.
Originally by: Seleene
Client - "You smash them."
MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
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Rukaz
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.22 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Originally by: Seleene Here are the answers to the specific questions:
1.) None of your buisness.
2.) None of your buisness.
3.) None of your buisness.
4.) None of your buisness.
Thank you for calling the MC Confidential Information Hotline. Your credit card has been charged 500,000 isk.
You misspelled bidniss.
I'd trust Sel to lead us into hell..... but not into a spelling bee.
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Romulus Maximus
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.22 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: Romulus Maximus LOL
50 whole billion ? Imagine they took a contract. Went all out war. Both parties could lose outposts etc. Now lets say we won, and MC retreated. How many outposts and pos would they lose ? How much isk is that ? Where would they carebear ? They would lose a huge source of income. Be it plexes, Ore, whatever. So, they could make 50 bil..But could lose that in ships alone. Let alone multiple outposts and pos. And any future income from thier home.
Im sure Seleene is just writing the acceptance memo now
Beside, most of our mums wont buy us new pcs. SO we cant really run multiple accounts
So what your saying is Mc is in Bob's pocket? Any MC care to comment on that?
Does my post lead u to believe that ? MC will take a contract on us. I mean obviously, i dont know what MC will actually do, as im not them. But im pretty sure they would. So there clearly not in our pocket. But im quite sure 50bil doesnt really cover their projected losses from taking a contract on us. Any one can see that. They have invested a lot of time and effort into getting where they are. There not going to throw it away for peanuts.
Current RKK Ranking: (AMM14) Fleet Admiral - 900 kills
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.22 15:59:00 -
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It does lead me to believe this, while i`m not a merc nor privy to an alliances wallet 50bil sure seems like a lot to me for a week or 2 of war. Infact i`m sure most of eve's premier pvp corps would fight bob or anyone else for that.
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.22 16:01:00 -
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Quite honestly its none of anyones business, plus what is this? Everyones bored of ASCN/BOB threads so now its MC threads?
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Kaiu
Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.10.22 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho Quite honestly its none of anyones business, plus what is this? Everyones bored of ASCN/BOB threads so now its MC threads?
After your first major public failure both ingame and on the forums (please dont beat me for saying this! ) i think its about time ppl discussed MC for a while ____________________ MOGarmy
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Romulus Maximus
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.22 16:05:00 -
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Im not privvy to that information either. Im just giving my opinion, i obviously cant speak, or pretend to know what MC would do. But lets say they lost an outpost during this contract. There about 30 bil ? (last i heard, im no industrialist!) So thats just cut thier payment right down. Not to mention the pos lost for us ot have claimed sov. Or the ships etc. Unlike most contracts. They would be fighting in or very near thier home. So its only fair to assume thier home could be under threat. If they go fight up north. Thier home is relatively safe. They fight on thier doorstep, any wise man would make a play for thier home soil, distrupting supllies etc.
In the grand scheme of things, 50 bil is not much at all. To an individual maybe, but major alliances? I think not.
Current RKK Ranking: (AMM14) Fleet Admiral - 900 kills
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.22 16:06:00 -
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before the flame wars start. I thought seleene had already stated that they had no intention of taking the outposts. They did what they were payed to do and lets leave it at that.
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Raivotar
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.22 16:07:00 -
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I can settle this.. its 42. Honest. ------------------------------------------------
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Kaiu
Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.10.22 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Romulus Maximus Im not privvy to that information either. Im just giving my opinion, i obviously cant speak, or pretend to know what MC would do. But lets say they lost an outpost during this contract. There about 30 bil ? (last i heard, im no industrialist!) So thats just cut thier payment right down. Not to mention the pos lost for us ot have claimed sov. Or the ships etc. Unlike most contracts. They would be fighting in or very near thier home. So its only fair to assume thier home could be under threat. If they go fight up north. Thier home is relatively safe. They fight on thier doorstep, any wise man would make a play for thier home soil, distrupting supllies etc.
In the grand scheme of things, 50 bil is not much at all. To an individual maybe, but major alliances? I think not.
Also, that is JUST the infrastructre, what about all the ships, mods, Min stocks, fuels, BP's (obviously some of the more expensive can be sneaked out) like you said its thier 'home' ____________________ MOGarmy
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Kaiu
Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.10.22 16:10:00 -
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Back to on-topic...
I always assumed that if MC were to become involved then they would be going after POS or AXIOM and leave the actual 'ASCN' to BOB ____________________ MOGarmy
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Draximus Cane
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.22 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kaiu Back to on-topic...
I always assumed that if MC were to become involved then they would be going after POS or AXIOM and leave the actual 'ASCN' to BOB
Only if bills are paid -------------------------------------------------
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Draximus Cane
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.22 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter before the flame wars start. I thought seleene had already stated that they had no intention of taking the outposts. They did what they were payed to do and lets leave it at that.
OH we had the intention, its just time ran out, it may not have been the prime objective, but mercs like bonus, well done for depriving us of it -------------------------------------------------
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.22 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Draximus Cane
Originally by: DHB FooFighter before the flame wars start. I thought seleene had already stated that they had no intention of taking the outposts. They did what they were payed to do and lets leave it at that.
OH we had the intention, its just time ran out, it may not have been the prime objective, but mercs like bonus, well done for depriving us of it
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.22 16:26:00 -
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When did Mc fail a contract? or am i missing something
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.22 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb When did Mc fail a contract? or am i missing something
Well some people see that we didn't take the IAC stations as being fail, however as Sel stated that wasnt the primary objective and was a bonus.
So you only have our word that it wasn't the objective of the contract but of course some people will think were just saying that.
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