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Artemis Ellery Sazas
Shock and Awe Inc.
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Posted - 2015.05.17 09:46:15 -
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I find mining fun, I find PVE fun and I find some low sec pvp fun, it depends on my mood at the time. So what does that make me? So because I don't play the game a "certain way", I should take my money and move on to another game? That's the beauty of EVE, you can play the game any way or do anything you want.
The most boring activity I have ever done in EVE imo is gank miners, so there you go. It's not fun and your playing wrong, so change your gameplay or move on! |
Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
44166
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Posted - 2015.05.17 09:46:36 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Just wait, Chunks will tell us next that structure grinding, something more or less universally decried by the playerbase, is fun. Funny you mention that, I've never actually been that averse to structure grinding. Usually because it comes with an eviction or something and a fleet of 30+ makes short work of most structures. I used to siege poorly defended small/medium POS solo (well, if you count numerous alts as solo) just for the "fun" of it. Free killmails, loot and a system to sell afterward. Good times.
But even the most mind-numbing structure bashes still provide a good bonding experience for the girls and, after all, someone needs to clear out those old POCOs for the PI carebears in corp.
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Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
368
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Posted - 2015.05.17 09:52:39 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: First: define "fun".
Something done for enjoyment, rather than any particular benefit. Quote: Obviously the guy quoting you doesn't knows why mission runners do run missions.
They do it to make money, for whatever reason. Notably, not enjoyment. I've met more than a few nascent mission runners who do it because the NPE led them in that direction, so they think they "have" to run missions. And we all know that such players, unless interacted with in a meaningful way, eventually quit the game entirely. An argument could easily be made that highsec PvE is actively hurting the game, by damaging potential retention. You see? Totally clueless. Let this sink in: mining is fun. Some people play contact sports. Others go fishing. Part of EVE's beauty is that it allows both styles of having fun, albeit one is neglected and looked upon whereas the other is boasted all over the place. Also, one of the sytles is constantly shoved down the throat of the players who prefer the other style, but that doesn't works in the opposite direction. Some people is in game to be pusshed forever, and some are in game to never risk being pushed back. And that is an abysmally poor design.
Wait ... so why does PvE needs to be changed if, according to you, it is already so much fun to do? |
Sgt Ocker
Burning Sky Labs
467
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Posted - 2015.05.17 10:26:48 -
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Malcanis wrote:Tao Dolcino wrote:Sovereignty eh ? For me there is only one question : Are CCPs doing something to break the huge null sec empires, trying to make the null sec game much more dynamic and interesting for smaller entities, or do they change EVE to please their mafia buddies ? The rest is blabla. You tell me. It really is disheartening when you look at that, then adding FozzieSov to the equation.
I wonder how many years it will take to get a sov system that isn't so biased, if ever.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
351
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Posted - 2015.05.17 10:55:10 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: And yes, you're both clueless and arrogant -you didn't even bothered to wonder why mining is fun
I would have to say that "clueless" and "arrogant" is the person trying to tell me that mining is fun. You can ramble on about fishing all you want, but it's still a category error on your part. They are far from the same thing. Quote: Mining is fun because it allows you to earn a litlte gain while you socialize OR enjoy your precious "Me time" without being bothered by RL issues and other people.
Except that it's the single most anti social activity in the game, besides ship spinning, so that's just a brazen lie. Mission running is almost as bad, although some would claim arguably worse, as you harm your earning potential by doing it in groups. If you want "Me time", why are you playing a PvP Sandbox MMORPG? Go play Solitaire. If you don't want to be bothered by "other people", why are you playing an expressly multiplayer game? And most of all, why do you insist that your desire to play the game wrong should warrant a change to the gameplay mechanics? Quote: And now comes the part where it turns that a majority of EVE players give money to CCP to do exactly that and nothing else...
Except that, as we went over before, that's a lie. It's you trying to claim an invisible (and imaginary) majority to try and bolster your shaky attempts to try and ruin this game just to cater to your own niche.
I have to say, I left two mining corps / alliances during my first year playing because all the socializing drained me. Sometimes I don't want to blab with corpmates or be at their beck and call for assistance. I found myself immediately logging back off when I saw that corpchat or teamspeak was full of players. I joined a two man group with a RL friend because he also didn't want to spend his time in pointless conversation with corp members. I found mining corps to be TOO social. |
Sgt Ocker
Burning Sky Labs
467
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Posted - 2015.05.17 10:58:57 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Let this sink in: mining is fun. we can do a list of fun things fun things - occupational health and safety talks - filling out forms - lighting a cigarette in the wind - biting the inside of your cheek - waiting for pots to boil - watching highslot modules cycle - buses ...and fishing. Been there, done that and you know what - It was fun. Not the waiting for a bite or the time it takes to fill your ore hold but the social interactions. Being with friends doing something that only has limited or no "fun" value can make it an enjoyable experience.
Fishing - Get up at 4 am drag your sorry ass down to the boat ramp, meet up with friends, travel for hours to find the right reef, spend hours waiting for a bite, while all the time talking and laughing with mates about anything that comes to mind
Mining - Find the right asteroid belt, sit in it for hours while your ore hold fills up continually, with 20 other guys, linking good (or bad) ****, talking and laughing about anything that comes to mind.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
351
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Posted - 2015.05.17 11:24:35 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Let this sink in: mining is fun. we can do a list of fun things fun things - occupational health and safety talks - filling out forms - lighting a cigarette in the wind - biting the inside of your cheek - waiting for pots to boil - watching highslot modules cycle - buses ...and fishing. Been there, done that and you know what - It was fun. Not the waiting for a bite or the time it takes to fill your ore hold but the social interactions. Being with friends doing something that only has limited or no "fun" value can make it an enjoyable experience. Fishing - Get up at 4 am drag your sorry ass down to the boat ramp, meet up with friends, travel for hours to find the right reef, spend hours waiting for a bite, while all the time talking and laughing with mates about anything that comes to mind Mining - Find the right asteroid belt, sit in it for hours while your ore hold fills up continually, with 20 other guys, linking good (or bad) ****, talking and laughing about anything that comes to mind.
Like a gate camp but with more action! |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
224
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Posted - 2015.05.17 11:47:35 -
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Harrison Tato wrote: I have to say, I left two mining corps / alliances during my first year playing because all the socializing drained me. Sometimes I don't want to blab with corpmates or be at their beck and call for assistance.
Some/Lots of people feel similar. Get up go to work come home play a bit go to sleep.
Fill this up with householding and preparing food, there is no much time left. How long does it take to get fleets up? A fight? How much time to invest for your EvE Social-live?
I log into EvE to mine? Yes: i am HOME in New Eden so being there just for mining is still fun. Mine stuff, produce stuff and when finished, smash it again.
What i want to say, is that EvE is not dying, because you just add more short-while stuff.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16389
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Posted - 2015.05.17 12:17:05 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Malcanis wrote:Tao Dolcino wrote:Sovereignty eh ? For me there is only one question : Are CCPs doing something to break the huge null sec empires, trying to make the null sec game much more dynamic and interesting for smaller entities, or do they change EVE to please their mafia buddies ? The rest is blabla. You tell me. It really is disheartening when you look at that, then adding FozzieSov to the equation. I wonder how many years it will take to get a sov system that isn't so biased, if ever.
What's disheartening? Seeing 2/3 of the map opening up for independent grouping? (It will be even more soon, because some of those existing groups will fall apart at the first hard shove, allowing even more opportunities for new claimants - start bookmarking. XiX space now. And a lot of the southeast too.)
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Thora Zhubilai
University of Caille Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2015.05.17 13:17:14 -
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What does it mean? To have Fun in EVE! Is there only one kind of Fun? Is there only one way to have Fun?
I Think NO. There are many ways to have Fun. And whatGÇÖs Fun for player X must not be Funny for player Y.
Is Pew Pew Fun? Is mining Fun? Is missioning Fun? Is Industry Fun? YES all those things are FunGǪjust not for everyone!
Can you play EVE without interacting with other players? Yes, but it will be very difficult to do! ...probably you will have to move to a system at the End of New EDEN. Its fact that everything youGÇÖ do (ingame) will bring you to interact with other player, sometime more, sometime lesser.
NOW Why do Newbies leave the game so quickly?
At first I think most of them are afraid. Afraid about what they see. They have no way to follow. DonGÇÿt forget, most of them have played other games which show them the path to follow. In EVE they have nothing like that. Much of them probably feel lost in that big universe.
The Skills! There are so many Skills! What should be the choice? They just see, to reach that wonderful BS will need few monthsGǪand if no one explain themGǪ
I think the first two weeks in EVE are the most important. If they find some help probably they will stay, if they find not they will leave.
It is probably true to say that players which go early to PvP have a higher retention. But I think that has more to do with the facts that by doing PvP they quickly find contact to similar minded folks.
My point to EVE: Yes EVE is a PvP sandbox! Yes PvP is the Core of the sandbox. All other things you can do just exist to make PvP possible. (Content created by players)
This doesnGÇÖt mean I am a PvPer, absolutely not. SindGÇÖs I started to play EVE two years ago, I did avoid all direct PvP. Also the time I was in Null (corp was by NA) I never participated to fleets and roams (just had/and still have no interests in), I did supply the corps with minerals and stuffGǪ and YES mining and industries are fun. Yes I got killed; I lost (in Null, in Low and HS) Exhumers, Freighters, Haulers and a lot of stuff. And each time I learned about. Should this be a reason to whine? Should this be a reason to ask for change the game mechanic? (I.e. to make my ship indestructible) Should this be a reason to leave the game? Should CCP GÇ£CutGÇ¥ PvP?
NO! never! ItGÇÖs part of the game.
Some parts of New Eden are absolutely to quiet! When i am mining or hauling and No one try to kill me, is like eating an unsalted soup.
I remember my first trip to LowGǪ (I heard about higher value of ore) With my 4 days old char in Rookie Ship I jumped into lowGǪ First gate no problems, looking the roids, but nothing with high value, Next gate was to 0.3 system, jump... I got in a big white bubbleGǪ did looks nice and strange that thingGǪ was suddenly back in station. Did took next ship and jumped to another Low systemGǪwith success
My only regret is not to have begun much earlier to play EVE
Hi all!
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
3548
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Posted - 2015.05.17 13:17:55 -
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Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: First: define "fun".
Something done for enjoyment, rather than any particular benefit. Quote: Obviously the guy quoting you doesn't knows why mission runners do run missions.
They do it to make money, for whatever reason. Notably, not enjoyment. I've met more than a few nascent mission runners who do it because the NPE led them in that direction, so they think they "have" to run missions. And we all know that such players, unless interacted with in a meaningful way, eventually quit the game entirely. An argument could easily be made that highsec PvE is actively hurting the game, by damaging potential retention. You see? Totally clueless. Let this sink in: mining is fun. Some people play contact sports. Others go fishing. Part of EVE's beauty is that it allows both styles of having fun, albeit one is neglected and looked upon whereas the other is boasted all over the place. Also, one of the sytles is constantly shoved down the throat of the players who prefer the other style, but that doesn't works in the opposite direction. Some people is in game to be pusshed forever, and some are in game to never risk being pushed back. And that is an abysmally poor design. Wait... so why does PvE needs to be changed if, according to you, it is already so much fun to do?
Did not say "change". I did say "improve", even "expand". The people who want mining mechanics to change are not miners.
73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1516
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Posted - 2015.05.17 13:27:33 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Let this sink in: mining is fun. we can do a list of fun things ... Mining is fun when you are relaxing and socialising. Gate camping is worse than mining and that is considered to be PVP.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13002
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Posted - 2015.05.17 13:37:38 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Let this sink in: mining is fun. we can do a list of fun things ... Mining is fun when you are relaxing and socialising. Gate camping is worse than mining and that is considered to be PVP.
So, anything fun about mining... is something you can do with literally any activity? Or heck, even not playing the game at all?
Fairly damning, if you ask me. The whining about gatecamps just puts it in even more of a hilarious light.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Lethal Intent.
4430
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Posted - 2015.05.17 15:52:01 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Let this sink in: mining is fun. we can do a list of fun things ... Mining is fun when you are relaxing and socialising. Gate camping is worse than mining and that is considered to be PVP. So, anything fun about mining... is something you can do with literally any activity? Or heck, even not playing the game at all? Fairly damning, if you ask me. The whining about gatecamps just puts it in even more of a hilarious light. yeah it's like comparing the entertainment value of any activity on my list to the entertainment value of the same activity complemented with a well-timed energetic fart
for example, farting on a bus. hilarious |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23767
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Posted - 2015.05.17 16:09:43 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:for example, farting on a bus. hilarious Even more so if it's an SBD and you drop it as you get off.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11031
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Posted - 2015.05.17 16:22:30 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Did not say "change". I did say "improve", even "expand". The people who want mining mechanics to change are not miners.
And the people who claim to speak for 62% of people despite never being elected to anything probably aren't real PVErs either.
Again you do NOT speak for us.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13004
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Posted - 2015.05.17 16:24:59 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Let this sink in: mining is fun. we can do a list of fun things ... Mining is fun when you are relaxing and socialising. Gate camping is worse than mining and that is considered to be PVP. So, anything fun about mining... is something you can do with literally any activity? Or heck, even not playing the game at all? Fairly damning, if you ask me. The whining about gatecamps just puts it in even more of a hilarious light. yeah it's like comparing the entertainment value of any activity on my list to the entertainment value of the same activity complemented with a well-timed energetic fart for example, farting on a bus. hilarious
Well that's just horrible! Farting on a bus, ruining the time that other people are having by enjoying that captivating bus ride, merely for your own amusement! You sociopath, you cad, you fiend!
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11031
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Posted - 2015.05.17 16:38:53 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:First: define "fun". Something done for enjoyment, rather than any particular benefit. An AI can't generate the 'fun' roleplaying fetishists demand. You're mixing up several different playstyles and preferences here without any particular effect btw isachunk. Solo players can do so without being forced to play in larger groups. Actually a lot of people in mid to large groups are soloers who don't really interract all that much with anyone. The myth that joining a corp is a second job is a myth for anyone but leadership. You can do trade, indy, research, invention, manufacturing, hauling, mining, exploration as well as regular missions/plexing. You choose not to because, evidently you expect to undock 3 jumps from your nearest trade hub and have NPC generated content delivered. Which is fair enough in some ways provided it doesn't hurt the economy. But you don't insta undock into a dungeon or instance. You undock with us, and we are going to find a way to play with you, because we live here too. PVE content has been added within the game design philosophy. Wormholes, Incursions, Burners, Drifters. There was already PVE content outside of highsec (level 5s, plexing etc) and rescuing the Damsel for the 2400th time - but you chose not to take it. Read this and consider why those comments were made. Hey, I've tried "other playstyles". So far, the Drifter content has costed me a hefty amount of ISK. I've lost a Rattlesnake, a Harbinger, a Prophecy and a Purifier both to Drifters and Seekers. Maybe some people will laugh at me and my display of incompetence (haw haw! I soloed a Drifter in a Venture LOL! YUR NOOB go back to Wow!!!). Now I've learned and don't plan on losing my current ship, while I get what I look for (Antikythera elements) in amounts high enough to compensate for NOT mining ice (specially at the current prices of ice). It's been a nice ride and has kept me subbed for a couple of months. But, how does CCP plan to reward me? I'll tell you: the next Drifter content is inside wormholes, nowhere a self-respecitng highsec carebear is gonna go. Further, likely Jove observatories will be "destroyed" (=removed) so they can't be further mined for Antikythera elements. CCP, in its endless idiocy, thinks that Antkythera elements are gonna lure ME (or any self-respecting highsec carebear) outside of our "comfort zone" (=the reason why we give money to CCP) and learn "the real game" (wormhole PvP) in order to enjoy wormhole PvE. No. And that's a NO the size of all the players CCP lost to that ASS-umption. Some people (62% of players?) will NOT learn to PvP just to do more PvE. Because they are not here for the PvP.This is why all the "new" PvE ahs been so bloody unsuccesful (as Level 5s). We are not here to risk being blown by other players. And so once we choose an amount of risk, we stick to it until we grow bored or we quit. Running some napkin calculations, CCP has lost about one million subscribers to this, and yet they still haven't learned their lessons.
They learned that about a million people are not cut out for EVE. Just like the above quoted poster who claims to be a PVE pilot but denies himself 99% of the PVE opportunities in the game because of self limiting behaviors (while failing to understand that is it is those self limiting behaviors that causes his perpetual unhappiness not any lack on CCP's part). I'm one of those 62% EVE players and I'm still here, still running anoms, missions, fw missions, incursions, exploration and trying to figure out Drifters.
That whole "62% are being abused" nonsense is a lie, as evidence by the fact that the person who keeps saying it is still here. And still here being counter productive, because his every post turns more and more PVE players against his way of thinking (many of the people in this thread telling him he doesn't know what he is talking about are PVE player, like Jonah, and me).
CCP isn't good at themepark carebear 'content'. They are GREAT at SANDBOX PVE content where a player has to have a little bit of "tolerance for pvp interference" and self-starting attitude. EVE PVE as a whole is great for "risk-taker" Indiana Jones types who value gaining things (like isk) against opposition. EVE style PVE also appeals to Tinkerer/Amateur engineer types that love to experiment.
What it can never do is appeal to people who need to be hand held and spoon fed 'content'. There are other games for that. CCP shouldn't be changing this successful game that has endured for more than a decade because a tiny fringe element (not 62% of anything) can't wait for Star Citizen to come out so they can be happy (which they won't even then, because the problem isn't the games, it's them).
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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
3035
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Posted - 2015.05.17 16:39:08 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Did not say "change". I did say "improve", even "expand". The people who want mining mechanics to change are not miners. And the people who claim to speak for 62% of people despite never being elected to anything probably aren't real PVErs either. Again you do NOT speak for us.
She should totally gather up all these people who support her. I want to see a thread full of these people raising her arm for her.
Ha.
"(or any self-respecting highsec carebear) " .... it's not self-respect.
It's a superiority complex.
Btw ... did anyone notice that carebears only ever seem to do one thing ?
Like ... so many people have alts for so many things ... including PvP combat ... ... and carebears ?
Remember when people say "who builds your ship if we don't mine?" ?
It's exactly that way of thinking. As if everyone has his designated role.
Stupid.
Abolish Rookiecorps
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
Him after realising rigs don't need any skills: Chris Lazeare > That changes everything
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23771
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Posted - 2015.05.17 16:47:32 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Did not say "change". I did say "improve", even "expand". To improve or expand something requires that a change takes place.
So yeah you did say change.
Quote:The people who want mining mechanics to change are not miners. Umm miner, amongst other things, here. Mining mechanics suck, IMHO they need revising so that mining is more engaging and interactive. Press F1 and having the possibility to walk away for 10 minutes or more is not good gameplay design.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
3035
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Posted - 2015.05.17 16:50:53 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Did not say "change". I did say "improve", even "expand". The people who want mining mechanics to change are not miners. To improve or expand something requires that a change takes place. So yeah you did say change. Sheesh, not even I go that far. xD
How're you doing, Jonah? :D
Abolish Rookiecorps
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
Him after realising rigs don't need any skills: Chris Lazeare > That changes everything
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23772
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Posted - 2015.05.17 16:58:03 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Did not say "change". I did say "improve", even "expand". The people who want mining mechanics to change are not miners. To improve or expand something requires that a change takes place. So yeah you did say change. Sheesh, not even I go that far. xD How're you doing, Jonah? :D lol, it's true though.
Doing fine thanks Sol, although I seem to playing skill queue online more than internet spaceships recently; methinks it may be time to find myself a new direction in Eve, playing semi-solo as an honest man trying to make his way in a dishonest world has gotten stale.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13006
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Posted - 2015.05.17 17:04:00 -
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Well Jonah, word has it that mining is "fun", you might consider giving that a try, once you've exhausted invasive dental surgery for it's entertainment purposes.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23773
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Posted - 2015.05.17 17:09:46 -
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^^Mining is a fairly effective remedy for insomnia, it's got that going for it..
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13006
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Posted - 2015.05.17 17:10:22 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:^^Mining is a fairly effective remedy for insomnia, it's got that going for it..
I prefer technical manuals.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23773
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Posted - 2015.05.17 17:13:36 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:^^Mining is a fairly effective remedy for insomnia, it's got that going for it.. I prefer technical manuals. Been there, done that. Would you like to participate in a technical discussion of the pros and cons of control area network busses and media orientated system transports?
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13006
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Posted - 2015.05.17 17:23:42 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:^^Mining is a fairly effective remedy for insomnia, it's got that going for it.. I prefer technical manuals. Been there, done that. Would you like to participate in a technical discussion of the pros and cons of the controller area network bus and media oriented system transport bus?
I'd prefer a brief chat over the merits of the use of a oscilloscope to gauge signal strength degradation up to a stratospheric touch point, relative to loss from both rainfall and snowfall, as opposed to use of a Scalar network analyzer judging packet loss to approximate the same degradation numbers.
The results will shock you.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Valkin Mordirc
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Posted - 2015.05.17 17:26:29 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Did not say "change". I did say "improve", even "expand". To improve or expand something requires that a change takes place. So yeah you did say change. Quote:The people who want mining mechanics to change are not miners. Umm miner, amongst other things, here. Mining mechanics suck, IMHO they need revising so that mining is more engaging and interactive. Press F1 and having the possibility to walk away for 10 minutes or more is not good gameplay design.
I agree. ^.^ I'm not a miner and I want to change so I can actually enjoy mining. I had more fun mining in Runescape when I was 13 than I do now in EVE.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Benny Ohu
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Posted - 2015.05.17 17:36:27 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote: I agree. ^.^ I'm not a miner and I want to change so I can actually enjoy mining. I had more fun mining in Runescape when I was 13 than I do now in EVE. when you were a minor oh hohohohohohohohoho
we miners we do jokes
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Benny Ohu
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Posted - 2015.05.17 17:38:42 -
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all jokers, joking around
sometimes warp back to station
good times, jokes |
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