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Conrad Makbure
Trident Expedition
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Posted - 2015.03.31 00:18:59 -
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This is for anyone, but I'm specifically asking people who can afford one, but have never owned one. The changes on the way are big and I'm looking forward to them, but how about you.
Are you going to get into the new pos system, thinking about it, or flat out 'no'. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
8176
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Posted - 2015.03.31 00:24:10 -
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I'll stick with my current strategy.
Let someone else go through the hassle of setting up and maintaining a space structure. I'll just mooch research and build space on it.
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1387
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Posted - 2015.03.31 00:34:28 -
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I'd like more small, specialized structures but my interest has been tickled.
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Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
913
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Posted - 2015.03.31 00:34:28 -
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I am most definitely planning on getting a structure.
I've always had to rely on setting up my mobile lab at a corp POS which means a director has to anchor and manage it, and according to the game the corp owns it. I plan on getting my own lab and anchoring it as mine where I want/need it, though the corp can still use it. |
Violet Crumble
EOL Logistics
650
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Posted - 2015.03.31 00:42:28 -
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I have a POS that I anchor in order to reprocess ores for manufacturing and then take it down again. So it's only up for about 40 minutes at a time.
I don't need to run it longer then that.
However the potential changes outlined so far look very interesting, even though it is all just about speculation at the moment and all subject to a lot of design desicions and change before implemention.
So a cautious yes, I'm interested in what options the new structures will provide.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1177
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Posted - 2015.03.31 01:45:20 -
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The shields are a major reason to have one. It doesn't look like they will be less hassle to run.
So, less inclined.
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
273
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Posted - 2015.03.31 01:59:08 -
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I didn't read the dev blog ... have they added reasons to own a POS? |
Ranzabar
Ratio 1.618 Corp
117
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Posted - 2015.03.31 03:08:42 -
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Is it work? Do I have to expend effort and energy to run a POS? I don't work very hard in Eve or RL, so it doesn't seem like something I'd want to do.
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Iroquoiss Pliskin
Hedion University Amarr Empire
88
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Posted - 2015.03.31 03:20:35 -
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4749
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Posted - 2015.03.31 03:21:17 -
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Well POS are going away, eventually.
It may be easier to lose a research / manufacturing / whatever structure.
If stations have their services removed, I expect free or fee stations to prosper. |
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1988
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Posted - 2015.03.31 03:31:15 -
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Shiloh Templeton wrote:I didn't read the dev blog ... have they added reasons to own a POS? Proposals include.... Unified storage. No fiddly placing of structures in space around it, just fit it like a ship. Fuel is only used when you actually do something like use an assembly line. - One structure can do all using service modules, just less efficient than several specialist structures using bonused service modules. |
Lienzo
Amanuensis
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Posted - 2015.03.31 05:04:33 -
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Hard to say. I am curious about what kinds of environments they will bring into being, what sort of dependence we will have upon them and finally whether or not they become a driver of both enterprise and conflict.
I am hoping that the environment is quite varied. If they all have, say, sensor strength in the same categorical group of engagability, then they'll be a bit lumped together all of the time. Perhaps some environmental variables would help create a kind of dynamism. With the short development cycle, I'd say just take a chance and see what happens. Living universes are dynamic, and responding to change is half the fun of being a thinking beast.
For manufacturing, I would like to see something along the lines of less portable specialization. That would be something anchored in space rather than stored in your noggin as with most specialty manufacturing. Reflection on a lot of popular science fiction (Clone Wars, Dune, etc.) and history points out the importance of trade relationships between groups. Perhaps if there were a way to spend a lot of money in the form of risked assets to produce a large stream of one specialized product, the opportunity costs could make for interestingly interdependent gameplay.
Naturally, I am also interested in what sort of obstacles corporate leaders will feel the need to put in the way of their subordinates regarding the new structures, and how people will respond to new opportunities. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
281
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Posted - 2015.03.31 05:12:24 -
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I had a large shadow serpentis tower once. I had a partner who owned some of the support structures and labs. I was going to put another one up maybe a regular small tower but I have been waiting for them to fix them ever since they started talking about it. But now that stations have unlimited job slots kind of not really needed.
But I do plan to dabble a little with the new stuff once it arrives. |
Leannor
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2015.03.31 09:15:17 -
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never. don't do it! It will suck your life dry! It's like a baby, always crying for attention and food! And what's more, you'll be tempted to have more, and more! Soon you'll have a chain of 20, all to yourself, and you will exist just to serve them!
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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
34011
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Posted - 2015.03.31 09:30:12 -
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I might just set up one or more of the new structures, such as the R&D labs and/or propaganda center.
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Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
91
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Posted - 2015.03.31 10:19:38 -
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They stated this to be one of their goals:
"Everyone who wants to use a structure, does: We want structures to be as widely used as possible, by removing artificial barriers or mechanics that may be in the way. This has to stay within a reasonable risk versus reward scope, of course, and as such the most rewarding structures should always be vulnerable to attack."
They failed miserably. With the suggested system small entities and single players are discouraged from operating a player structure bigger than a mobile depot. Any structure larger than medium may be destroyed/snatched by a single ship with an entosis link. There won't be any afk defenses so you are required to babysit the structure every day. No weekend trips. No holidays. Even if you just decide to go to the movies once in a while, don't expect your platform to still be there on your return.
Only the least intelligent players will put out loot pinatas out there.
I'n curious how CCP plans to salvage the concept put forward. |
Garnoo
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
156
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Posted - 2015.03.31 10:21:22 -
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its not if you want to use/have a pos... you need to have a reason for this...
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5942
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Posted - 2015.03.31 11:55:41 -
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They haven't given enough details yet to form a decent opinion.
I'm excited for the changes, but cautiously so.
Beyond the initial setup, running a POS isn't that hard after fuel blocks came to be. Managing moon-goo extractors isn't bad - has its quirks - but overall it is relatively straight forward. Once CCP starts putting out details of how moon mining will work, I'll be able to tell you whether or not I'll continue running that kind of operation.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
14225
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Posted - 2015.03.31 12:01:41 -
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What did I miss? They give the POS shields a new cool effect only to remove them?
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1576
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Posted - 2015.03.31 12:31:15 -
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I had no interest in POS before CCP changes POSes to be 'more popular' But they don't provide reasons to use them if you don't do it now
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Aphsala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2015.03.31 12:40:54 -
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Hopefully, will i though? well thats the question :D |
Debra Scully
Imperial Phoenix Legion
10
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Posted - 2015.03.31 12:41:54 -
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I used to have a POS for research jobs. Now that I no longer have to wait 30 days for a ME slot, and now that I have to pay to use my own damn POS on top of fuel and charters, I don't see the point of having one, currently. The time bonus doesn't even come close to making it worthwhile. |
Leannor
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
148
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Posted - 2015.03.31 12:44:28 -
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Debra Scully wrote:I used to have a POS for research jobs. Now that I no longer have to wait 30 days for a ME slot, and now that I have to pay to use my own damn POS on top of fuel and charters, I don't see the point of having one, currently. The time bonus doesn't even come close to making it worthwhile.
yeah ... not to mention the massive cost of ME etc reseach via POS (and the tiem effort back in the day) ... all for nothing now, especially as there's a 10 max limit ... ugh.
"Lykouleon wrote:
STOP
TOUCHING
ICONIC
SHIP
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Conrad Makbure
Trident Expedition
74
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Posted - 2015.03.31 23:59:37 -
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Sequester Risalo wrote:They stated this to be one of their goals:
"Everyone who wants to use a structure, does: We want structures to be as widely used as possible, by removing artificial barriers or mechanics that may be in the way. This has to stay within a reasonable risk versus reward scope, of course, and as such the most rewarding structures should always be vulnerable to attack."
They failed miserably. With the suggested system small entities and single players are discouraged from operating a player structure bigger than a mobile depot. Any structure larger than medium may be destroyed/snatched by a single ship with an entosis link. There won't be any afk defenses so you are required to babysit the structure every day. No weekend trips. No holidays. Even if you just decide to go to the movies once in a while, don't expect your platform to still be there on your return.
Only the least intelligent players will put out loot pinatas out there.
I'n curious how CCP plans to salvage the concept put forward.
Wow, damn, the entosis link kinda killed it for me just now...I checked out the sovereignty phase 2 and..yeah. A 'capture' module. So we can play CTF with stations, sounds like fun.
Wonder what the chances of us getting defensive AI gun control or drone deployment? lol. Well that sucks. |
Niobe Song
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2015.04.01 00:19:19 -
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If they look cool, add fun gameplay, and provide some sort of benefit....sure. Why not? I have heard nothing about how the current iterations are ever since I first started playing so it is something I never bothered with before but always thought could be quite interesting if done correctly. |
Velarra
357
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Posted - 2015.04.01 00:32:59 -
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Tamagotchi pet?
No thank you. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
895
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Posted - 2015.04.01 02:08:45 -
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More sandcastles to smash!
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
1916
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Posted - 2015.04.01 06:37:05 -
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Chribba wrote:What did I miss? They give the POS shields a new cool effect only to remove them? Yeah, they have said a few times that the code is difficult and they want to remove the force field. To be replaced with an area of invulnerability or something.
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Oxide Ammar
197
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Posted - 2015.04.01 07:25:56 -
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Based on the current CCP vision to open POSes for public use for a fee, why the hell you go through hassle to deploy one and babysit it everyday when someone else can do this for you. It's gonna be like POCOs
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