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Tykari
The Observatory Celestial Imperative
169
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Posted - 2015.04.04 22:33:27 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Tykari wrote: I would like to point out that Sansha's Nation was long ignored as a threat untill suddenly they started invading Empire space. Afterall they were mostly confined to their own space and didn't agress much unless you attacked them.
Conveniently leaving out the part where the Empires attacked first. Come to think of it, you lot were also the first to open fire on the sleepers as well. And now it seems the sleepers have woken up and brought friend's. I am detecting a pattern. Not convenient at all. Yes the Empires decided to clean house but they didn't finish the job and let things be afterwards. As for the Sleepers. The moment we approached one of their sites their response was to attack. No attempts at communication we could detect. And if we are going assign blame. Nation hardly seems innocent when it comes to attacking and waking up the Sleepers judging by the Silent battlegrounds.
In this dark void we are like brilliant stars, holding within us both the creative and destructive power to bring a new dawn upon worlds or plunge them into eternal darkness.
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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
577
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Posted - 2015.04.04 22:50:48 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Tykari wrote: I would like to point out that Sansha's Nation was long ignored as a threat untill suddenly they started invading Empire space. Afterall they were mostly confined to their own space and didn't agress much unless you attacked them.
Conveniently leaving out the part where the Empires attacked first. Come to think of it, you lot were also the first to open fire on the sleepers as well. And now it seems the sleepers have woken up and brought friend's. I am detecting a pattern.
Conveniently leaving out that Casus belli was already firmly established before the attack. Particularly for the Minmatar, and by virtue of our Alliance with the Federation. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1668
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Posted - 2015.04.05 00:26:27 -
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Nomistrav wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Nomistrav wrote: I am an Intaki independant with no loyalties or affiliations to anyone but myself and the people of Intaki. Feel free to make your ancestors proud by putting metal where your mouth is. I'm sure the patriots would like another martyr.
I'll be waiting in the usual locations.
"Usual locations" for gallente or their bootlicking Intaki lapdogs is shaking under the bed, when Caldari boots are marching nearby. I am not in the mood chasing a forum loudmouth all over the cluster, I have better things to do. But if you really wish to die, I am staying in Kurala constellation lately. When you will be there - ping my neocom to see if I am available to splat you all over station walls, or busy killing something more significant. You'd do well to acknowledge that many of those Intaki are Caldari sympathizers and you insult them as well with your rampant ignorance. Thank you for telling me your general location - should be enough to narrow down where you here in the next few hours. I'll be sure the mercenaries give my warmest regards when they blockade you into the station. Are you one of those Anslo-like loudmouth clowns, who scream and promise a lot, but in fact are just balloons of hot air, that are unable to do anything except squealing on forums, right? |
Nomistrav
Aliastra Gallente Federation
308
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Posted - 2015.04.05 02:26:44 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Nomistrav wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Nomistrav wrote: I am an Intaki independant with no loyalties or affiliations to anyone but myself and the people of Intaki. Feel free to make your ancestors proud by putting metal where your mouth is. I'm sure the patriots would like another martyr.
I'll be waiting in the usual locations.
"Usual locations" for gallente or their bootlicking Intaki lapdogs is shaking under the bed, when Caldari boots are marching nearby. I am not in the mood chasing a forum loudmouth all over the cluster, I have better things to do. But if you really wish to die, I am staying in Kurala constellation lately. When you will be there - ping my neocom to see if I am available to splat you all over station walls, or busy killing something more significant. You'd do well to acknowledge that many of those Intaki are Caldari sympathizers and you insult them as well with your rampant ignorance. Thank you for telling me your general location - should be enough to narrow down where you here in the next few hours. I'll be sure the mercenaries give my warmest regards when they blockade you into the station. Are you one of those Anslo-like loudmouth clowns, who scream and promise a lot, but in fact are just balloons of hot air, that are unable to do anything except squealing on forums, right?
Pot calling the world a pot.
Remember, you came into this thread, not the other way around.
Third Place Winner
Pod and Planet Fiction Contest YC114
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1668
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Posted - 2015.04.05 09:55:58 -
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Nomistrav wrote:
Pot calling the world a pot.
Remember, you came into this thread, not the other way around.
1. Your tiny insignificant person is not the whole world. 2. I came to the thread to discuss the proposition, yet you decided it would be better to discuss and insult me. You even dared to threat me, of course it looks like your threats will stay just incompetent shaking of air, just like incompetent and empty you are as a speaker.
You have lost your argument, when instead of arguing with me, you have descended to petty groundless insults like these:
Nomistrav wrote: Take your insanity away from me and my associates, least you incur the wrath of a man with nothing but time, finances, and uncontrollable anger.
You are out of facts, you are incompetent, you are nobody and your points are invalid. I have no idea why I even waste my time by answering to you and writing obvious things.
Please excuse me everyone for this outburst, except Nomistrav. |
Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
853
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Posted - 2015.04.05 18:38:39 -
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Nomistrav wrote:Formalizing a proposition to put together an Strike Force with the sole intention of removing the Drifter threat until we can further understand their motives and objectives. We know for a fact that they are hostile in the right conditions and whatever they are harvesting corpses for, with the aid of the Sleepers, can't be good. Shoot first, ask questions later. Beyond typical.
And they are collecting Capsuleers for their Jovian based implant tech and compatible biomass. |
Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
199
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Posted - 2015.04.05 22:39:06 -
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Who is this Dianna Kim person?
Asking because I deal with Cal Mil customers all the time..... But sheesh a proposal for an Anti-drifter force and she comes in here insulting people and trying to use this as a Pro-Militia War platform.
Now Dianna outside of the fact of being a loyal Caldari Citizen, I am an industrialist and these things have something I want. If you do not want to be involved in such an endeavor then please go back to the War Front where you needed and take your issues with you. I doubt anybody with a mind for business or even trying to study these things gives one damn wit about your extremist propoganda.
Gallente are not the only threat.....and besides in my estimation its better we the Caldari try to get some of the tech oppurtunities being offered before the Feds do. So please....lets us mostly Civilian experts do what we do best and take your Govermental Military Yammering back to your side of the bureacratic red tape! |
Nomistrav
Aliastra Gallente Federation
310
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:16:16 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Nomistrav wrote:Formalizing a proposition to put together an Strike Force with the sole intention of removing the Drifter threat until we can further understand their motives and objectives. We know for a fact that they are hostile in the right conditions and whatever they are harvesting corpses for, with the aid of the Sleepers, can't be good. Shoot first, ask questions later. Beyond typical. And they are collecting Capsuleers for their Jovian based implant tech and compatible biomass.
We've been asking questions and I've personally shadowed some drifters and seekers for many long hours, as has everyone else. We've mostly come to the conclusion that we've learned all we can, for the moment, and it is better to strike back and try to stem the reaping of corpses while we have an opportunity to do so than to continue waiting as more capsuleers' corpses are harvested.
Third Place Winner
Pod and Planet Fiction Contest YC114
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Nomistrav
Aliastra Gallente Federation
310
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:31:47 -
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Max Deveron wrote:Who is this Dianna Kim person?
Asking because I deal with Cal Mil customers all the time..... But sheesh a proposal for an Anti-drifter force and she comes in here insulting people and trying to use this as a Pro-Militia War platform.
Now Dianna outside of the fact of being a loyal Caldari Citizen, I am an industrialist and these things have something I want. If you do not want to be involved in such an endeavor then please go back to the War Front where you needed and take your issues with you. I doubt anybody with a mind for business or even trying to study these things gives one damn wit about your extremist propoganda.
Gallente are not the only threat.....and besides in my estimation its better we the Caldari try to get some of the tech oppurtunities being offered before the Feds do. So please....lets us mostly Civilian experts do what we do best and take your Govermental Military Yammering back to your side of the bureacratic red tape!
She'll be dealt with soon enough. For now, just ignore her and let us go back to the discussion at hand, please.
Third Place Winner
Pod and Planet Fiction Contest YC114
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
854
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:32:00 -
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Nomistrav wrote:Evi Polevhia wrote:Nomistrav wrote:Formalizing a proposition to put together an Strike Force with the sole intention of removing the Drifter threat until we can further understand their motives and objectives. We know for a fact that they are hostile in the right conditions and whatever they are harvesting corpses for, with the aid of the Sleepers, can't be good. Shoot first, ask questions later. Beyond typical. And they are collecting Capsuleers for their Jovian based implant tech and compatible biomass. We've been asking questions and I've personally shadowed some drifters and seekers for many long hours, as has everyone else. We've mostly come to the conclusion that we've learned all we can, for the moment, and it is better to strike back and try to stem the reaping of corpses while we have an opportunity to do so than to continue waiting as more capsuleers' corpses are harvested.
Many Capsuleers scavenge bodies and have vast collections of capsuleer corpses. Out of curiosity, what makes the Drifter corpse collecting such a massive red light that you must attack that which does not attack you first? |
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
386
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:35:46 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Nomistrav wrote:Evi Polevhia wrote:Nomistrav wrote:Formalizing a proposition to put together an Strike Force with the sole intention of removing the Drifter threat until we can further understand their motives and objectives. We know for a fact that they are hostile in the right conditions and whatever they are harvesting corpses for, with the aid of the Sleepers, can't be good. Shoot first, ask questions later. Beyond typical. And they are collecting Capsuleers for their Jovian based implant tech and compatible biomass. We've been asking questions and I've personally shadowed some drifters and seekers for many long hours, as has everyone else. We've mostly come to the conclusion that we've learned all we can, for the moment, and it is better to strike back and try to stem the reaping of corpses while we have an opportunity to do so than to continue waiting as more capsuleers' corpses are harvested. Many Capsuleers scavenge bodies and have vast collections of capsuleer corpses. Out of curiosity, what makes the Drifter corpse collecting such a massive red light that you must attack that which does not attack you first?
We know what capsuleers do with the bodies of other capsuleers. We do not know what the Drifters do with those same corpses.
One is known, the other is unknown.
It's human nature to fear the unknown.
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Nomistrav
Aliastra Gallente Federation
310
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Posted - 2015.04.06 16:11:16 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Evi Polevhia wrote:Nomistrav wrote:Evi Polevhia wrote:Nomistrav wrote:Formalizing a proposition to put together an Strike Force with the sole intention of removing the Drifter threat until we can further understand their motives and objectives. We know for a fact that they are hostile in the right conditions and whatever they are harvesting corpses for, with the aid of the Sleepers, can't be good. Shoot first, ask questions later. Beyond typical. And they are collecting Capsuleers for their Jovian based implant tech and compatible biomass. We've been asking questions and I've personally shadowed some drifters and seekers for many long hours, as has everyone else. We've mostly come to the conclusion that we've learned all we can, for the moment, and it is better to strike back and try to stem the reaping of corpses while we have an opportunity to do so than to continue waiting as more capsuleers' corpses are harvested. Many Capsuleers scavenge bodies and have vast collections of capsuleer corpses. Out of curiosity, what makes the Drifter corpse collecting such a massive red light that you must attack that which does not attack you first? We know what capsuleers do with the bodies of other capsuleers. We do not know what the Drifters do with those same corpses. One is known, the other is unknown. It's human nature to fear the unknown.
It's also human nature to ask questions when we don't understand something. As previously stated, we've asked all the questions we can and learned everything we can from the situation at hand. We've kept combat in moderation to try and give these newcomers a chance to explain their actions, even without directly telling us. They've openly engaged in hostilities, scanned us down without consent, destroyed ships and taken clones without consent.
Are we now suggesting that we must wait for another occurrence like Sansha's incursions to take action?
Third Place Winner
Pod and Planet Fiction Contest YC114
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
855
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Posted - 2015.04.06 16:33:21 -
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"We don't understand it. It won't talk to us. So we shot it. But it fired back! The nerve! We must eradicate it for defending itself! Barbarbarbar...." |
Nomistrav
Aliastra Gallente Federation
310
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Posted - 2015.04.06 16:39:22 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:"We don't understand it. It won't talk to us. So we shot it. But it fired back! The nerve! We must eradicate it for defending itself! Barbarbarbar...."
Bearing in mind that they shot first and continually shoot first. This isn't a matter for debate. The Anti-Drifter Strike Force proposal is still on the board and I'm still asking for CONCORD escalation as a means of security until we know more. We cannot just continually research at the expense of capsuleer lives while the Drifters prepare, we need to take action while we research.
If a feasible means of non-violent confrontation can occur to quell the Drifter and Seeker activities, I'll be the first one to pour funding into it. For now, this simply must happen.
Third Place Winner
Pod and Planet Fiction Contest YC114
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
855
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Posted - 2015.04.06 18:00:07 -
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Nomistrav wrote:Evi Polevhia wrote:"We don't understand it. It won't talk to us. So we shot it. But it fired back! The nerve! We must eradicate it for defending itself! Barbarbarbar...." Bearing in mind that they shot first and continually shoot first. This isn't a matter for debate. The Anti-Drifter Strike Force proposal is still on the board and I'm still asking for CONCORD escalation as a means of security until we know more. We cannot just continually research at the expense of capsuleer lives while the Drifters prepare, we need to take action while we research. If a feasible means of non-violent confrontation can occur to quell the Drifter and Seeker activities, I'll be the first one to pour funding into it. For now, this simply must happen.
All you showed was a CONCORD verified list of Capsuleer assets destroyed by Drifters. The fact of the matter is when the Circadian Seekers arrived, Capsuleers did shoot first. And when the Drifters first arrived to support the Seekers, once again Capsuleers did shoot first. If there are any engagements with the Drifters, who have never fired at me or any of my Corp mates, I have yet to see one where it could be confirmed that the pilot had never at any point fired on Drifters or Seekers.
As I said before, if there is to be a storm it is one you lot call down on yourself. I still am not sure whether or not they pose a threat to those like me who have never attacked them or trespass in their operational areas. So far they have demonstrated a defensive posture, not an aggressive one. I will not begrudge any people for simply firing in self defense.
But ever since the Circadian Seekers and their Drifter muscle appeared, Capsuleers have been practicing a very high level of aggressive xenophobic behaviors. It is vile and telling of what sort of civilization your kind will lead Humanity to. |
Nomistrav
Aliastra Gallente Federation
310
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Posted - 2015.04.06 18:08:03 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Nomistrav wrote:Evi Polevhia wrote:"We don't understand it. It won't talk to us. So we shot it. But it fired back! The nerve! We must eradicate it for defending itself! Barbarbarbar...." Bearing in mind that they shot first and continually shoot first. This isn't a matter for debate. The Anti-Drifter Strike Force proposal is still on the board and I'm still asking for CONCORD escalation as a means of security until we know more. We cannot just continually research at the expense of capsuleer lives while the Drifters prepare, we need to take action while we research. If a feasible means of non-violent confrontation can occur to quell the Drifter and Seeker activities, I'll be the first one to pour funding into it. For now, this simply must happen. All you showed was a CONCORD verified list of Capsuleer assets destroyed by Drifters. The fact of the matter is when the Circadian Seekers arrived, Capsuleers did shoot first. And when the Drifters first arrived to support the Seekers, once again Capsuleers did shoot first. If there are any engagements with the Drifters, who have never fired at me or any of my Corp mates, I have yet to see one where it could be confirmed that the pilot had never at any point fired on Drifters or Seekers. As I said before, if there is to be a storm it is one you lot call down on yourself. I still am not sure whether or not they pose a threat to those like me who have never attacked them or trespass in their operational areas. So far they have demonstrated a defensive posture, not an aggressive one. I will not begrudge any people for simply firing in self defense. But ever since the Circadian Seekers and their Drifter muscle appeared, Capsuleers have been practicing a very high level of aggressive xenophobic behaviors. It is vile and telling of what sort of civilization your kind will lead Humanity to.
Go say hello to a Drifter without firing a shot at it. See how well that works for you.
Third Place Winner
Pod and Planet Fiction Contest YC114
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
855
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Posted - 2015.04.06 21:49:23 -
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Nomistrav wrote:
Go say hello to a Drifter without firing a shot at it. See how well that works for you.
You mean something like this or this?
It's amazing what you can accomplish by treating other people as people and not targets. |
Nomistrav
Aliastra Gallente Federation
310
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Posted - 2015.04.06 22:34:38 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Nomistrav wrote:
Go say hello to a Drifter without firing a shot at it. See how well that works for you.
You mean something like this or this? It's amazing what you can accomplish by treating other people as people and not targets.
Now give that a shot near a wormhole. EDIT: Expect this to be my last response to you as I have no idea who you are and that generally means you're not contributing to either research or tactical superiority and are otherwise contextually worthless.
Third Place Winner
Pod and Planet Fiction Contest YC114
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
855
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Posted - 2015.04.06 22:50:12 -
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Nomistrav wrote:Evi Polevhia wrote:Nomistrav wrote:
Go say hello to a Drifter without firing a shot at it. See how well that works for you.
You mean something like this or this? It's amazing what you can accomplish by treating other people as people and not targets. Now give that a shot near a wormhole. EDIT: Expect this to be my last response to you as I have no idea who you are and that generally means you're not contributing to either research or tactical superiority and are otherwise contextually worthless.
I once found a hidden Caldari military facility in Placid. When approached, they opened fire. I do suppose I must start an Anti-State Strike Force now.
That's the thing about military operational areas. Trespass and you will be fired on. Every empire does this. Why are you treating the Drifters any different? |
Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
579
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Posted - 2015.04.06 23:29:49 -
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Y'know, there's a point to be made about Capsuleer aggression against the Drifters but that's the opposite of the way to make it.
Empires operate military operational areas in the space of people who they are at war with, or in space that they claim. If you're admitting these are military operations, you're admitting that the Drifters have given more than adequate casus belli. |
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
855
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Posted - 2015.04.06 23:49:45 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:Y'know, there's a point to be made about Capsuleer aggression against the Drifters but that's the opposite of the way to make it.
Empires operate military operational areas in the space of people who they are at war with, or in space that they claim. If you're admitting these are military operations, you're admitting that the Drifters have given more than adequate casus belli.
Space is big. If you're going to go to war with a technologically advanced race because they are claiming at most 8 million km-¦ in systems that are measured by hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of au-¦? At sites we never even knew existed until recently? Sites that were put in place, and probably would've been as aggressively defended, by your oh so friendly Jovian Directorate?
Hey, more power to you. Put in a good word for me just before they burn your homeworlds to the ground. |
Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
579
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Posted - 2015.04.07 02:00:59 -
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The Jovian Directorate was capable of, and actually did communicate. Whatever the Drifters / Circadian Seekers represent, it is not the Directorate.
I'm not a scientist, and I haven't participated in any of the research that's been focused on these entities. I'm a soldier primarily, but I've been giving diplomacy a whirl lately. I'm hardly an expert, but it seems rather obvious to me that if you want to be diplomatic the first step is actually fracking talking to someone... |
Claudia Osyn
The Scope Gallente Federation
1127
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Posted - 2015.04.07 02:06:31 -
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Captain Davison wrote: (but let's face it, most pirates are drugged out of their minds) If your job had you butting heads with capsuleers without the benefit of a clone, you would probably be drugged out too.
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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Claudia Osyn
The Scope Gallente Federation
1127
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Posted - 2015.04.07 02:13:19 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:
I once found a hidden Caldari military facility in Placid. When approached, they opened fire. I do suppose I must start an Anti-State Strike Force now.
Yes. This is the proper response, I support this thing you must do.
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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Dailar Toralen
Toralen Industries
10
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Posted - 2015.04.07 11:41:01 -
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As this is obviously a combat Task Force, I have started up a discussion for 'Project Insight' in which where those interested in studying and understanding this new threat can discuss there known tactics, data on previous engagements, and the intriguing Anytherika Element.
We are Toralen Industries. It doesn't matter if you fight for money, idealogies, or because it's what you are good at and it doesn't matter if you fight threw trade, combat, or diplomacy. No matter what or how you fight, there's a place for you.
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
855
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Posted - 2015.04.07 12:42:54 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:The Jovian Directorate was capable of, and actually did communicate. Whatever the Drifters / Circadian Seekers represent, it is not the Directorate.
I'm not a scientist, and I haven't participated in any of the research that's been focused on these entities. I'm a soldier primarily, but I've been giving diplomacy a whirl lately. I'm hardly an expert, but it seems rather obvious to me that if you want to be diplomatic the first step is actually fracking talking to someone...
Seems fairly obvious they don't wish to talk to us. Is that reason enough to shoot them? |
Claudia Osyn
The Scope Gallente Federation
1130
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Posted - 2015.04.07 16:05:14 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Rinai Vero wrote:The Jovian Directorate was capable of, and actually did communicate. Whatever the Drifters / Circadian Seekers represent, it is not the Directorate.
I'm not a scientist, and I haven't participated in any of the research that's been focused on these entities. I'm a soldier primarily, but I've been giving diplomacy a whirl lately. I'm hardly an expert, but it seems rather obvious to me that if you want to be diplomatic the first step is actually fracking talking to someone... Seems fairly obvious they don't wish to talk to us. Is that reason enough to shoot them? Yes?
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
583
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Posted - 2015.04.07 17:13:36 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Rinai Vero wrote:The Jovian Directorate was capable of, and actually did communicate. Whatever the Drifters / Circadian Seekers represent, it is not the Directorate.
I'm not a scientist, and I haven't participated in any of the research that's been focused on these entities. I'm a soldier primarily, but I've been giving diplomacy a whirl lately. I'm hardly an expert, but it seems rather obvious to me that if you want to be diplomatic the first step is actually fracking talking to someone... Seems fairly obvious they don't wish to talk to us. Is that reason enough to shoot them?
Actually, their wishes aren't obvious at all. That's the problem. It is a fact that they are not talking to us, past that we speculate.
My lack of scientific background aside, I've been going over various research on the Sleepers and talking with my compatriots who were previously active in the Arek'Jalan Project. From what I've read, it is established that the drones encountered in Sleeper sites within wormhole space are not directly controlled from within the Sleeper Virtuality. Instead, the Sleepers left behind an adaptive AI tasked with protecting them from external threats.
At this point, my guess is that what we are seeing are the beginning of long term consequences from Capsuleer incursions to Anoikis. Whatever parameters the Sleepers left for their AI guardians, they have obviously been pushed past the breaking point. There are a number of possibilities, none of them particularly positive for us.
Oh, and by the way... from what I'm reading... Sansha's Nation is already fully engaged in whatever conflict is taking place out in Wormhole space. Sounds like not even Master Kuvekei shares your viewpoint. |
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
52
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Posted - 2015.04.08 16:21:59 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Rinai Vero wrote:The Jovian Directorate was capable of, and actually did communicate. Whatever the Drifters / Circadian Seekers represent, it is not the Directorate.
I'm not a scientist, and I haven't participated in any of the research that's been focused on these entities. I'm a soldier primarily, but I've been giving diplomacy a whirl lately. I'm hardly an expert, but it seems rather obvious to me that if you want to be diplomatic the first step is actually fracking talking to someone... Seems fairly obvious they don't wish to talk to us. Is that reason enough to shoot them? Some people are violent like that
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1671
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Posted - 2015.04.10 19:52:29 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Nomistrav wrote:
Go say hello to a Drifter without firing a shot at it. See how well that works for you.
You mean something like this or this? It's amazing what you can accomplish by treating other people as people and not targets. He is a gallentean, Ms. Polevhia, he either tries to convert them to "freedom, hedonism, democracy" and other filth by words, but if they don't listen to him, he just shoots them. |
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