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Iroquoiss Pliskin
Hedion University Amarr Empire
128
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Posted - 2015.04.03 19:31:09 -
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Soldarius wrote:Ummmmm.......
Death to supers?
Er'ryday.
( -í° -£-û -í°)
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10572
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Posted - 2015.04.03 20:16:25 -
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War Kitten wrote:Precisely. The concluding paragraph was a bunch of questions, so I guess the OP had nothing useful to say, just a lot of questions.
Oh the OP came to his conclusions a long time ago, probably before quitting promising to never come back and claiming that Elite and Star Citizen would kill EVE, just to come back and pretend he wasn't going to come back lol.
In shocking news, perpetually unhappy people are perpetually unhappy.
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
164
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Posted - 2015.04.04 01:00:58 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Thus, a new form of PvE should be driven by players and have an impact on players. That's called PvP.
Because when one player does something ... ... and it affects another player even indirectly ... ... it's Player vs Player.
Maybe you want to rephrase what you want?
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:I'm still tinkering with the white skirt. Unfortunately we don't have white heels, but have red heels, yet then we don't have red jackets. So the only red-white-red scheme is using that tank top, with its weird green borders. I'm not a big fan of it. By the way, Ish has worn uniforms in the past. See here, here and here. Unfortunately, "militia" uniforms are OOC for her. She's never been a military, and probably the closest thing to a uniform she could wear accordingly to her biography, would be something like this...
We have red blouses... or what it's called ? https://gate.eveonline.com/profile/Christina%20Project
Also, white suits you better.
"Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote.
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Glathull
Warlock Assassins
997
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Posted - 2015.04.04 02:45:09 -
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I love the new release cycles. It gives CCP more opportunities for trolling. CPP trolling is what keeps me coming back to this game over and over again.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Shut up, Anslo. --everyone
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Daerrol
Furtherance.
85
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Posted - 2015.04.04 02:48:58 -
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Said before, will say again. I think EVE is in it's best incarnation right now.
Of course I am one who strongly benefits from trollololceptors rather than has to deal with it. |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
92
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Posted - 2015.04.04 03:31:37 -
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N+ releases won't fix the current issue - old game trying to looks like a newly and fresh. Like an old milf after plastic surgery. No matter how often and fast you going to visit you Doctor. The issue will remain the same. Of course you are going to use a tons of make-up and brand dressing but it won't help. In terms of popularity the milf would attract some young lads to visit her and maybe some elder cowboys will still ride her. But. You know the answer.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6683
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Posted - 2015.04.04 03:49:11 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:N+ releases won't fix the current issue - old game trying to looks like a newly and fresh. Like an old milf after plastic surgery. No matter how often and fast you going to visit you Doctor. The issue will remain the same. Of course you are going to use a tons of make-up and brand dressing but it won't help. In terms of popularity the milf would attract some young lads to visit her and maybe some elder cowboys will still ride her. But. You know the answer. ...
is this about world of warcraft?
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
92
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Posted - 2015.04.04 04:01:58 -
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EVE not dying it's just turning into WoW. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
1212
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Posted - 2015.04.04 04:20:27 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:TL;DR: EVE is changing fast. When I worked with the Japanese at Nissan and I said the word, "change" their body language shut down and they weren't interested in what I had to say but I soon learned that if I put forward something to "improve" things then they were all ears.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow.
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
772
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Posted - 2015.04.04 04:21:42 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:TL;DR: EVE is changing fast. When I worked with the Japanese at Nissan and I said the word, "change" their body language shut down and they weren't interested in what I had to say but I soon learned that if I put forward something to " improve" things then they were all ears. I think you're just describing engineers in general. |
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
94
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Posted - 2015.04.04 04:32:09 -
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There is another majik word - Innovation. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
1212
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Posted - 2015.04.04 04:44:23 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:TL;DR: EVE is changing fast. When I worked with the Japanese at Nissan and I said the word, "change" their body language shut down and they weren't interested in what I had to say but I soon learned that if I put forward something to " improve" things then they were all ears. I think you're just describing engineers in general. This was management, I had to convince them then take it to the engineers and my team (PLCs).
(Do not worry. We only squished five people in six months and one doesn't count because it was a two for one thing.(Joking ... or am I?))
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow.
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
100
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Posted - 2015.04.04 08:42:56 -
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War Kitten wrote:Precisely. The concluding paragraph was a bunch of questions, so I guess the OP had nothing useful to say, just a lot of questions.
or confused?
Just Add Water
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
3447
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Posted - 2015.04.04 09:58:18 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Thus, a new form of PvE should be driven by players and have an impact on players. That's called PvP. Because when one player does something ... ... and it affects another player even indirectly ... ... it's Player vs Player. Maybe you want to rephrase what you want?
I already said it. I want PvE to become PvP by other means than pew pew. To do that, it must be driven by players and must influence players, so not engaging into PvE becomes as hazardous as dismissing pew pew.
For further details on how would it be if everyone could force their playstyle onto everyone, read here:
http://jestertrek.blogspot.com.es/2014/05/recycling-day-peace-dec.html
They're talking, jokingly, about reversing wardecs into "peace decs" to prevent pew pewers form pew pewing, much as wardecs prevent PvErs to PvE. I just take that idea to a higher level, about PvErs forcing pew pewers to PvE much as now pew pewers can force pew pew unto PvErs.
You *can* ignore pew pew, but it will have consequences sooner or later (carebear tears!). It is just fair and balanced that dismissing PvE would have consequences sooner or later (pew pewer tears!).
Quote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:I'm still tinkering with the white skirt. Unfortunately we don't have white heels, but have red heels, yet then we don't have red jackets. So the only red-white-red scheme is using that tank top, with its weird green borders. I'm not a big fan of it. By the way, Ish has worn uniforms in the past. See here, here and here. Unfortunately, "militia" uniforms are OOC for her. She's never been a military, and probably the closest thing to a uniform she could wear accordingly to her biography, would be something like this... We have red blouses... or what it's called ? https://gate.eveonline.com/profile/Christina%20Project Also, white suits you better.
That's the red satin blouse, it doesn't matches with anything else.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
207
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Posted - 2015.04.04 10:18:23 -
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The game already forces most players to do some kind of PvE to get ISK. There is no need to expand this any further. I'm open to other means of general purpose PvP competition than pew pew, but you need to be careful to not undercut the very nature of EvE. Peace decs are bs, they do not create but reduce multiplayer content.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
3447
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Posted - 2015.04.04 10:27:32 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:The game already forces most players to do some kind of PvE to get ISK. There is no need to expand this any further. I'm open to other means of general purpose PvP competition than pew pew, but you need to be careful to not undercut the very nature of EvE. Peace decs are bs, they do not create but reduce multiplayer content.
LOLWHAT? Peace decs are the exact opposite of wardecs. And oh yes they reduce multiplayer... by forcing players out of their corps. Exactly as wardecs do.
So why you call them bs? You can come and wardec me to force me to..
... not play ... leave my corp ... play your way (and lose horribly at it)
Peace dec would force you to...
... not play ... leave your corp ... play my way (and suffer eye cancer or whatever)
Why the former are "fine" but the later are "bs"?
PS: that was exaclty the reflection being made by Mike and Ripard. Why certain players can force their playstyle unto othere, but the later are not given means to force their playstyle unto others?
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
171
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Posted - 2015.04.04 10:28:04 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:The game already forces most players to do some kind of PvE to get ISK. There is no need to expand this any further. I'm open to other means of general purpose PvP competition than pew pew, but you need to be careful to not undercut the very nature of EvE. Peace decs are bs, they do not create but reduce multiplayer content. No, it doesn't. You are mistaking ones inability to find alternatives with the game forcing you to do anything.
Generally speaking of course some people have to do PvE, because it's a part of the economy, but that does in no way or form mean anyone is forced to do it.
The outcome would be interesting.
If this thread degrades to the usual hate, by the usual blind, unreasonable and hatefull people who hate the player and not the character ...
... then this will hopefully, rightfully get a lock.
"Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote.
"AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
3448
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Posted - 2015.04.04 10:56:01 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:TL;DR: EVE is changing fast. When I worked with the Japanese at Nissan and I said the word, "change" their body language shut down and they weren't interested in what I had to say but I soon learned that if I put forward something to " improve" things then they were all ears.
I'm all open to improve things. I've easily adopted MTUs, MJDs, and all the toys CCP has thrown our way.
That doesn't changes that just yesterday I rescued the Damsel for the I-hope-I-never-know-itnth time. I don't want that mission to go (it's a classic!) but I wonder why there are no better and more "EVE" ways to use 78 million SP without shooting somebody's face.
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2246
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Posted - 2015.04.04 11:50:54 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Kiandoshia wrote:Aphsala wrote:eve is dying? Essentially What else would you expect from Ishtanchuk Fazmarai?
I don't know. I don't forum that much =p |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
207
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Posted - 2015.04.04 13:53:43 -
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I didn't say I like wardecs , in their current form they are mainly used to farm tears in highsec.
But I think we are far off topic now ...
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6690
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Posted - 2015.04.04 15:42:55 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:TL;DR: EVE is changing fast. When I worked with the Japanese at Nissan and I said the word, "change" their body language shut down and they weren't interested in what I had to say but I soon learned that if I put forward something to " improve" things then they were all ears. I'm all open to improve things. I've easily adopted MTUs, MJDs, and all the toys CCP has thrown our way. That doesn't changes that just yesterday I rescued the Damsel for the I-hope-I-never-know-itnth time. I don't want that mission to go (it's a classic!) but I wonder why there are no better and more "EVE" ways to use 78 million SP without shooting somebody's face. So...
is eve actually improving, or not. I see, an interesing use of irony in a thread about eve dying
very subtle, I definitely approve of your foruming skills.
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Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Chewytowel Haklar
Project RESET
129
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:04:21 -
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I don't think CCP is making changes to the game willy nilly without a plan or a clue in the world as to what they are heading towards. So yes the rapid updates can keep coming out because they have a plan they are working towards. MMO devs always have a plan they work towards in some fashion so the red queen nonsense doesn't apply.
And who the heck doesn't want patches more often? If you like being starved for content so much go play WoW. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6692
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:38:39 -
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Chewytowel Haklar wrote:MMO devs always have a plan they work towards in some fashion so the red queen nonsense doesn't apply. How do those plans work out for mmos in general...
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Black Panpher
Ganja Inc
2997
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:45:03 -
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Ban **** posters. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6692
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:56:29 -
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Black Panpher wrote:Ban **** posters. No we need to ***** post faster and faster to just stay where we are.
TO make it harder, we also get fatigued
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Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Glathull
Warlock Assassins
997
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Posted - 2015.04.04 17:11:28 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:TL;DR: EVE is changing fast. When I worked with the Japanese at Nissan and I said the word, "change" their body language shut down and they weren't interested in what I had to say but I soon learned that if I put forward something to " improve" things then they were all ears.
I think that says less about the Japanese and more about how you just have terrible ideas.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Shut up, Anslo. --everyone
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Dots
State Protectorate Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2015.04.04 17:24:54 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:That doesn't changes that just yesterday I rescued the Damsel for the I-hope-I-never-know-itnth time. I don't want that mission to go (it's a classic!) but I wonder why there are no better and more "EVE" ways to use 78 million SP without shooting somebody's face.
All the solo aspects of EVE are a financial life support system for pilots to shoot other pilots in the face. If you want to play a single player game then you should find a single player space Sci Fi game that will continue to be interesting for you for 12 years straight.
Otherwise, have the good graces to admit that EVE is too interesting for you to quit.
everything is better with ߦêߦÆߦù-ó on it
New Player Opportunities: a gallery
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Black Panpher
Ganja Inc
3001
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Posted - 2015.04.04 17:28:04 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Black Panpher wrote:Ban **** posters. No we need to ***** post faster and faster to just stay where we are. TO make it harder, we also get fatigued
Such stealth, much wow! |
Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
326
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Posted - 2015.04.04 17:52:46 -
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Dots wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:That doesn't changes that just yesterday I rescued the Damsel for the I-hope-I-never-know-itnth time. I don't want that mission to go (it's a classic!) but I wonder why there are no better and more "EVE" ways to use 78 million SP without shooting somebody's face. All the solo aspects of EVE are a financial life support system for pilots to shoot other pilots in the face. If you want to play a single player game then you should find a single player space Sci Fi game that will continue to be interesting for you for 12 years straight. Otherwise, have the good graces to admit that EVE is too interesting for you to quit. ITT: Sibyyl sums up the currens state of EVE (and, most likely, the current dev vision, because seagull) in a nutshell. |
Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust Triumvirate.
1530
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Posted - 2015.04.04 18:42:32 -
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Black Panpher wrote:Ban **** posters. So...ban everyone?
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
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