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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
8322
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Posted - 2015.04.07 19:38:07 -
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Ioci wrote:Don Purple wrote:Just always be honest :D If you get rejected because you are telling the truth then you probably don't want to fly with them anyways.
Been in a few corps now even when they know I am a spy/awoxer/corp thief. Had a blast with a lot of good people even met some of them IRL. This in a round about way. There is no limit on the amount of accounts someone can have. API checks are useless and they always have been. The closest thing to true security checks are in requirements to have you register with something like Team Speak, It's much more difficult to BS people for long periods of time when they become actual people in a teamspeak environment. My name is Edwin, I live in Toronto, Canada.
My name is John Travolta. I live in Xanadu.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
567
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Posted - 2015.04.07 19:45:26 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Ioci wrote:Don Purple wrote:Just always be honest :D If you get rejected because you are telling the truth then you probably don't want to fly with them anyways.
Been in a few corps now even when they know I am a spy/awoxer/corp thief. Had a blast with a lot of good people even met some of them IRL. This in a round about way. There is no limit on the amount of accounts someone can have. API checks are useless and they always have been. The closest thing to true security checks are in requirements to have you register with something like Team Speak, It's much more difficult to BS people for long periods of time when they become actual people in a teamspeak environment. My name is Edwin, I live in Toronto, Canada. My name is John Travolta. I live in Xanadu. Mr Epeen
Obvious example is obvious but could you keep that up for months on Vent or TS?
R.I.P. Vile Rat
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
8322
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Posted - 2015.04.07 19:50:21 -
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Ioci wrote:
Obvious example is obvious but could you keep that up for months on Vent or TS?
I have kept up false identities for years in other games. Games that require a much closer bond on TS than this one.
It's not that hard. Keep it simple and keep a post-it on the monitor with some reminders of who you are supposed to be and what you do in life.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
304
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Posted - 2015.04.07 19:50:44 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Delete everything in your mail folder before applying. Other than that, let them have their fun and then change your API key. Mr Epeen Actually the last thing you should do, a good Sec Officer will tell you to take a hike.
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
567
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Posted - 2015.04.07 21:22:18 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Ioci wrote:
Obvious example is obvious but could you keep that up for months on Vent or TS?
I have kept up false identities for years in other games. Games that require a much closer bond on TS than this one. It's not that hard. Keep it simple and keep a post-it on the monitor with some reminders of who you are supposed to be and what you do in life. Mr Epeen
I don't doubt it but that level of human forgery is on a scale most will never bother with. You are either in the military and training in super spy rubbish or have a genuine desire to be a sociopath or something along those lines. Most come to EVE to play internet spaceships and build fake empires.
So as not to slide off the rails too far, API is pointless and making contact with the person in command of the account is the best you can do in terms of security. Because the internet is still a giant texting machine in most respects you do need to take leaps of faith here and there but yea, many EVE corps over do themselves.
I'm in a one man alliance. My security? You aint getting in. Sorry.
R.I.P. Vile Rat
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Avaelica Kuershin
20
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Posted - 2015.04.07 21:35:16 -
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Ioci wrote:
I don't doubt it but that level of human forgery is on a scale most will never bother with. You are either in the military and training in super spy rubbish or have a genuine desire to be a sociopath or something along those lines. Most come to EVE to play internet spaceships and build fake empires..
How about playing internet spaceship spies? Perhaps I've read too much Le Carre and want to try my hand at espionage (not on this character obviously)
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Don Purple
Snuggle Society.
1156
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Posted - 2015.04.08 05:55:59 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Ioci wrote:Don Purple wrote:Just always be honest :D If you get rejected because you are telling the truth then you probably don't want to fly with them anyways.
Been in a few corps now even when they know I am a spy/awoxer/corp thief. Had a blast with a lot of good people even met some of them IRL. This in a round about way. There is no limit on the amount of accounts someone can have. API checks are useless and they always have been. The closest thing to true security checks are in requirements to have you register with something like Team Speak, It's much more difficult to BS people for long periods of time when they become actual people in a teamspeak environment. My name is Edwin, I live in Toronto, Canada. My name is John Travolta. I live in Xanadu. Mr Epeen
My mane is john, arthur, alex, theodore, don, wolf, johny, jon, etc. Columbus Ohio. :D
Ive been most of those names for months or years with certain folks.
Worked a 4 month job on a irl friend cause he bet me I couldn't do it. I was on his ts3 every day for months. :D
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
812
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Posted - 2015.04.08 08:58:16 -
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Don is a monster. I'm not kidding. Not as bad as all the sociopathic carebears though.
He is weak against people who are victim types, like his ******** friend Crispy.
Avoid him unless you want to hire him.
This man has gigantic snakes and wrestles them! I ******* kid you not!
And he will lure you into it with baby pictures of his daughter!
She's adorable!
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
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Glathull
Warlock Assassins
1007
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Posted - 2015.04.09 01:50:49 -
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Dots wrote: Unless you are training to be a spy, I would suggest you don't deal in deception at all. Life is just simpler that way.
You say that, but you haven't told us what you're hiding underneath those dots . . . .
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
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Don Purple
Snuggle Society.
1160
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Posted - 2015.04.09 11:07:09 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:Don is a monster. I'm not kidding. Not as bad as all the sociopathic carebears though.
He is weak against people who are victim types, like his ******** friend Crispy.
Avoid him unless you want to hire him.
This man has gigantic snakes and wrestles them! I ******* kid you not!
And he will lure you into it with baby pictures of his daughter!
She's adorable!
Sol has me pegged xD <3 Solecist Forever Sebastian is almost 7 feet now 8in wide in the middle
Walters still about 14ft and 30lbs Oh and piper is 40lbs and huge she can now say pewpewpew and MINE. http://imgur.com/MDS0yNi [ :D]
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1203
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Posted - 2015.04.09 11:15:18 -
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Don Purple wrote:Eve Solecist wrote:Don is a monster. I'm not kidding. Not as bad as all the sociopathic carebears though.
He is weak against people who are victim types, like his ******** friend Crispy.
Avoid him unless you want to hire him.
This man has gigantic snakes and wrestles them! I ******* kid you not!
And he will lure you into it with baby pictures of his daughter!
She's adorable! Sol has me pegged xD <3 Solecist Forever Sebastian is almost 7 feet now 8in wide in the middle Walters still about 14ft and 30lbs Oh and piper is 40lbs and huge she can now say pewpewpew and MINE. http://imgur.com/MDS0yNi [ :D] That's ... over 200cm ... and ... 400+cm .... ... +10kg ... sheesh ....
*clicks image*
STOP THIS MIND CONTROLLING MADNESS!!
.......................... NO ................ nooooo ..............................
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.... awww your little chubby baby ...... I hate you for this ... hahahaha xD
Did you shave your beard off? ^_^
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
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Hicksimus
Xion Limited Resonance.
582
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Posted - 2015.04.09 23:52:31 -
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I just use them to troll. Knew a friend was about to be interviewed so I sent this via EvEMail.
Congratulations, you have been accepted to TEST Alliance best alliance. Please put your application in to a TEST Alliance best alliance corp of your choosing. You had a choice and you made the right one!
TEST Alliance Best Alliance,
-Hicksimus
. ...................GûäGûä GûäGûä ...GûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûäGûêGûêGûê ....GûôGûê GûÇ GûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûä GûôGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûê GûôGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûäGûäGûêGûêGûêGûêGûä GûôGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇGûäGûêGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûêGûÇ GûÆGûê GûêGûêGûêGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûêGûÇ..TEST GûÆGûÆGûêGûêGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûê.....ALLIANCE GûäGûÆGûÆGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûÇGûä......BEST ...GûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûæGûêGûæGûêGûÇ....ALLIANCE ..........GûÇGûæGûêGûæGûÇ
Obviously the recruiter in Razor Alliance was excited about this because he didn't realize I was in his corp.
Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you?
Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2095
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Posted - 2015.04.10 01:43:15 -
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Marech Bhayanaka wrote:Lots of interesting responses above. Thank you all!
One more question ... I came across one otherwise attractive looking corp that specifies they want a non-expiring API key. I believe this would give them ongoing access to my email. I don't plan any shenanigans, but this seemed a bit creepy.
Is this a commonly accepted practice?
Marech. You should ask them what they want a non-expiring API for. If you think their explanation is good then give them it, if you don't think their explanation is adequate then tell them and look for a different corp. |
Paul Blart MallCop2
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1
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Posted - 2015.04.10 06:13:06 -
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Marech Bhayanaka wrote:I've been reading recruitment threads recently, and of course many of them mention security checks, which makes sense in a game full of spies and betrayals. But today I thought about it a bit and realized I have no idea what the checkers are looking before, beyond the obvious "Did he work for the enemy."
Are there things I (and others) should avoid doing because they would make it harder to find a corp in the future?
Marech.
All security must be checks and all checks must be secure. Scrambling with Tisker.dll will allow for more checks with more security. Full API allows us to see if you have been inappropriate with the universe. |
Don Purple
Snuggle Society.
1171
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Posted - 2015.04.18 04:17:34 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:Don Purple wrote:Eve Solecist wrote:Don is a monster. I'm not kidding. Not as bad as all the sociopathic carebears though.
He is weak against people who are victim types, like his ******** friend Crispy.
Avoid him unless you want to hire him.
This man has gigantic snakes and wrestles them! I ******* kid you not!
And he will lure you into it with baby pictures of his daughter!
She's adorable! Sol has me pegged xD <3 Solecist Forever Sebastian is almost 7 feet now 8in wide in the middle Walters still about 14ft and 30lbs Oh and piper is 40lbs and huge she can now say pewpewpew and MINE. http://imgur.com/MDS0yNi [ :D] That's ... over 200cm ... and ... 400+cm .... ... +10kg ... sheesh .... *clicks image* STOP THIS MIND CONTROLLING MADNESS!! .......................... NO ................ nooooo .............................. .................................................... .... awww your little chubby baby ...... I hate you for this ... hahahaha xD Did you shave your beard off? ^_^ Yeah I shaved, its nearly back already but its close to motorcycle season so that's ok \o/
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2360
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Posted - 2015.04.18 09:06:55 -
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Uhm... isn't it that even deleted mails will be pulled via API?
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2360
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Posted - 2015.04.18 09:11:52 -
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In any case... don't give away a full API.
They have no right to demand your private messages and it provides literally zero security for anyone.
The API security is as secure as a door with a lock ... Zero. It only keeps those out who wouldn't have broken in anyway!
It's so easy to circumvent, all you need is a fresh account.
API checks are a pointless procedure for citizens ... ... while not providing any security from real terrorists.
Funny real-life analogy.
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
ISD Ezwal > And then Ezwal comes along and takes all that space(s) away.
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Don Purple
Snuggle Society.
1172
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Posted - 2015.04.19 03:10:16 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:Uhm... isn't it that even deleted mails will be pulled via API? Yes but with no api for 30 days blabla someing purple awox garble saturday \o/
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Ro Fenrios
Armilies corporation Balcora Gatekeepers
78
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Posted - 2015.04.20 07:58:49 -
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Used to ask API keys, and it did help in one small awox attempt. Director noticed what was happening early, confirmed who had taken the stuff, removed all access rights and when I logged in had all the evidence ready for me in mail. Awoxer got away with 400milj worth of stuff, but could have been worse. API keys are useful not just when recruiting.
Fun fact: The thief we recruited was the only one we have ever recruited via open advert. Can confirm that most efficient way to recruit trustworthy people is by shooting them into face instead. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20517
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Posted - 2015.04.20 08:50:26 -
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Don Purple wrote:Eve Solecist wrote:Uhm... isn't it that even deleted mails will be pulled via API? Yes but with no api for 30 days blabla someing purple awox garble saturday \o/ Whaaaat?? :D
It's easier to ask for forgiveness, than to ask for permission.
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20517
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Posted - 2015.04.20 08:51:51 -
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Ro Fenrios wrote:Used to ask API keys, and it did help in one small awox attempt. Director noticed what was happening early, confirmed who had taken the stuff, removed all access rights and when I logged in had all the evidence ready for me in mail. Awoxer got away with 400milj worth of stuff, but could have been worse. API keys are useful not just when recruiting.
Fun fact: The thief we recruited was the only one we have ever recruited via open advert. Can confirm that most efficient way to recruit trustworthy people is by shooting them into face instead. Isn't this more of a sign that it's of no use?
Am I missing something?
It's easier to ask for forgiveness, than to ask for permission.
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