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Soratah
Amarr Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.10.28 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Zarch AlDain Abbadon
Quite a few people have been asking for a drone boat, but how does a teir 3 drone boat not be stronger than the Dominix?
8 high slots, 8 turret hard points. 15% per level reduction in laser cap use. 200m3 drone bay 20% per level increase in drone armour hp
Here you need to use the guns and drones in combination to do the damage. You get really good cap reduction on lasers so you can fit 8 lasers and fire them along with the drones, but with no damage bonus on either you do need to use them in combination to get the job done.
You have enough drone bay to fit a few replacement drones and your drones themselves are pretty hard to kill.
That sounds like the best idea considering it's low turret dps then most people will be fitting it pretty much like the Apoc for the tanking.
To be honest though, with Amarr BS5 then it'll have the same tanking resists as a navy issue apoc. We'll just fit heavy nos making it the same as the Nos-Domi..
However, it's current incarnation is quite frankly ****-poor. Tracking disruption and drones are still the best way to go. If you look at the module you can see huge bay doors on the bow of the ship.
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Soratah
Amarr Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.10.29 05:03:00 -
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No word yet I see...
What are the odds that these ships will have the exact same bonii when they enter Tranq server?
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Soratah
Amarr Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.10.29 07:24:00 -
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Edited by: Soratah on 29/10/2006 07:42:01 I've always liked the look of the Typhoon. To be honest I've pictured the gaping maw of that ship to disgorge drones.
It's definitely a Jack-of-all-Trades ship though. Would be fun to add a +5% bonus to (choose from list when first piloting the phoon) so it could really do anything.
Drones obviously add to the dps of this ship so maybe a bonus centered around drones would also do.
Tempest in AC setup is a VERY high DPS ship, and it's much better (if not equal to the megathron in this regard). Close range combat is not the Amarrian way of life and their Battleships will always be outperformed in close range engagements.
The Rokh may have issues with range during PvP combat, but it's more of a Sniper than any Amarrian ship will be so it balances it. As well as the fact it'll be using sensible guns and not lasers
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Soratah
Amarr Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.11.03 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Soratah on 03/11/2006 18:49:36
Originally by: PSEWAR
Originally by: Nyxus Tachys on an apoc are almost 110dps better than 1400s on an apoc. They make better sounds and pretty lights too.
With 8 Tachyon Beam and multi lenses you have a dps of 212 against an apoc. With 8 1400 Artis and emp projectil you have a dps of 136 against an apoc.
As you have to fit RCU's to actually be able to fit 8 tachyon beams on an apoc and tachs suck a hell of a lot cap you are not able to use them for long time while tanking, so that we are back to the point that you are better with using projectils.
But I think that is getting to much off topic here is the discussion is about the Tier3 BS.
I would be happy if Tux or an other Dev that has to do with the Tier3 Bs could actually post in here so that we might get the feeling that they read our concerns here and if they plan to do anything about it as it surely seems there is a very big balancing issue.
You mean like that 70-page "Amarrian ships" thread in ships and modules that was completely ignored a couple of weeks back.
Despite the Amarrians being an older spacefaring race their pinnacle of technology are:
Lasers Drones Tracking Disruptors Nos (the most recent)
The ONLY success Amarr ships have are with Nos, in fact the Curse and Pilgrim are incredibly deadly to ANY turret-using ship in this universe because of their inherent bonii. If a Curse pilot with 2 Tracking Disruptors and medium nos caught ANY Amarrian BS then the BS would be forced to dock, jump, or die. That's IT.... The Geddon is a good ship for combat with high dps.. but to match the dps of a Megathron you HAVE to have T2 Weaponry and heatsinks..
Drones are a borrowed technology to protect ships from fast-movers, it has limited success on the Arbitrator models (again one of the most favored and diverse ships). The Abaddon, the pinnacle of technological achievement in the Battleship field is.... what... Rehashed.... oh dear.
I remember CCP saying they had clear concepts of which each ship's role will be. Prey tell us the concepts that were thrown out by the dev team for this tragic ship.
Oh well, Amarrians get another ship that rich people will buy to sit in their hangers and look at it occasionally. Saying to themselves "Yes, nice looking with big drone bay doors on the front and every essence looking like a big chunky useful drone carrier. Phew, what a hack job!"
People have number crunched and layed out their maths on this forum so it's a very big case in favour of changing the Abaddon. Yet, despite this wealth of public opinion and mathematical dissection... who here believes that the Abaddon will be on TQ with the EXACT same setup as it does now?
It's great being Amarrian ain't it?
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Soratah
Amarr Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.11.10 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Keitaro Baka
Originally by: Capt Harlock Abbadon I don't know why it can't be a specialized tracking disruptor ship. Does no one see this but me? Could be the amarr version of a scorp. As it stands it does the same as the ships the amarr already has. Would be cool for the minny to get a target painter BS and Gallente sensor dampner BS. Or BC versions. Does anyone at all see any merit in this idea?
Sure we do.. tho I would prefer a drone/tracking disruptor ship.. but even if we do .. The thing is, it has kinda been set in stone that all tier 3 BS will have 8 high slots and be rather shooting oriented.
To change that now would mean they would not come out now but prolly in kali 2/3 because of the many tests and balancing issues that would have to be redone..
You mean like how the Abaddon is balanced at the moment? No, those ship setups seem to be subject to change. Some of the Tier 2 BCs have already undergone slot layout changing (myrmidon for example) Only problem is that despite all the maths, suggestions, requests for a role change in these ships. We're getting cosmetic crap like grid juggling instead.
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