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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
The OSS
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Posted - 2006.11.03 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Well Nebba, you've impressed me. You copied and pasted a month-old post by me from the goonfleet.com forums, took it out of context, and then managed to find two (maybe three) factual mistakes out of a three-page post. Kudos.
Originally by: Plutoinum
I have a personal opinion about it and no, it's not that I believe that RA currently does such things on alliance level, because I know nothing that leads to the conclusion.
Maybe some people, but you might find those in other alliances, too.
So well, that my current view is based on. I'm not saying RA and currently, I'm have just my doubts about some indiduals. I'm neither neutral in this war, nor objective. But I don't claim to know the truth. So it's also just blabla somehow. 
I don't think anyone condones it on an alliance level - I know a Chorus of Dawn corporation recently let in a few macroratters, and when they found out, they were kicked out. The macro-ers are still going at it in newbie corps. There's another thread going on in this forum about CHIMP letting macrominers go at it. I know the bottom few systems in Period Basis have macro-ratters in it; I tried ratting there a few months back.
My point is any alliance might have e-bayers/macroers in it, but they are kind of hard to tie to anyone in particular. I think Red Alliance gets a lot of the bad rap because of the language/cultural differences and stereo-types westerns have of them. And even I have to be honest, I have a hard time underdstanding their devotion to complexes, but I can see where they come from - an hour's worth of complexing beats the hell out of twelve or more hours of mining.
Originally by: Nebuchadnezzar I
Aha, so what you basically are saying: "Just because they include their own ability to crash nodes in their tatical assesments doesnt mean they'll do it"
Why mention a tatical option if you are not actively using it/prepared to do so?
Anyone with insight into the SA community need no evidence of how far goons are willing to go in games though, im not even sure they will deny this themselves.
He asked for proof, you're giving him the run-around. Post the proof or don't post at all.
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.03 03:26:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Well Nebba, you've impressed me. You copied and pasted a month-old post by me from the goonfleet.com forums, took it out of context, and then managed to find two (maybe three) factual mistakes out of a three-page post. Kudos.
Kudos to you, as well, for opening your mouth and removing all doubt.
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Treebeard dk
M. Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.03 08:34:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Treebeard dk on 03/11/2006 08:34:39
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Well Nebba, you've impressed me. You copied and pasted a month-old post by me from the goonfleet.com forums, took it out of context, and then managed to find two (maybe three) factual mistakes out of a three-page post. Kudos.
Originally by: Plutoinum
I have a personal opinion about it and no, it's not that I believe that RA currently does such things on alliance level, because I know nothing that leads to the conclusion.
Maybe some people, but you might find those in other alliances, too.
So well, that my current view is based on. I'm not saying RA and currently, I'm have just my doubts about some indiduals. I'm neither neutral in this war, nor objective. But I don't claim to know the truth. So it's also just blabla somehow.
I don't think anyone condones it on an alliance level - I know a Chorus of Dawn corporation recently let in a few macroratters, and when they found out, they were kicked out. The macro-ers are still going at it in newbie corps. There's another thread going on in this forum about CHIMP letting macrominers go at it. I know the bottom few systems in Period Basis have macro-ratters in it; I tried ratting there a few months back.
My point is any alliance might have e-bayers/macroers in it, but they are kind of hard to tie to anyone in particular. I think Red Alliance gets a lot of the bad rap because of the language/cultural differences and stereo-types westerns have of them. And even I have to be honest, I have a hard time underdstanding their devotion to complexes, but I can see where they come from - an hour's worth of complexing beats the hell out of twelve or more hours of mining.
Originally by: Nebuchadnezzar I
Aha, so what you basically are saying: "Just because they include their own ability to crash nodes in their tatical assesments doesnt mean they'll do it"
Why mention a tatical option if you are not actively using it/prepared to do so?
Anyone with insight into the SA community need no evidence of how far goons are willing to go in games though, im not even sure they will deny this themselves.
He asked for proof, you're giving him the run-around. Post the proof or don't post at all.
As said before, it has already meen proven, no need for him to do it and since you are not there you cant prove it wrong.
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Chochko
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.03 08:42:00 -
[124]
Ok those kind of "proofs" are absolute joke...
I can fabricate a "post" too and say that i copy it from whatever forum - the question is how this demonstrates the truth of those words? - Not at all.
Another thing is to get just part of said "post" and make comments over those part. This is just a plain manipulation.
There is a local saying in my country - "We dont eat the tomatoes with the stakes"
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.03 09:07:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Well Nebba, you've impressed me. You copied and pasted a month-old post by me from the goonfleet.com forums, took it out of context, and then managed to find two (maybe three) factual mistakes out of a three-page post. Kudos.
Originally by: Plutoinum
I have a personal opinion about it and no, it's not that I believe that RA currently does such things on alliance level, because I know nothing that leads to the conclusion.
Maybe some people, but you might find those in other alliances, too.
So well, that my current view is based on. I'm not saying RA and currently, I'm have just my doubts about some indiduals. I'm neither neutral in this war, nor objective. But I don't claim to know the truth. So it's also just blabla somehow.
I don't think anyone condones it on an alliance level - I know a Chorus of Dawn corporation recently let in a few macroratters, and when they found out, they were kicked out. The macro-ers are still going at it in newbie corps. There's another thread going on in this forum about CHIMP letting macrominers go at it. I know the bottom few systems in Period Basis have macro-ratters in it; I tried ratting there a few months back.
My point is any alliance might have e-bayers/macroers in it, but they are kind of hard to tie to anyone in particular. I think Red Alliance gets a lot of the bad rap because of the language/cultural differences and stereo-types westerns have of them. And even I have to be honest, I have a hard time underdstanding their devotion to complexes, but I can see where they come from - an hour's worth of complexing beats the hell out of twelve or more hours of mining.
Originally by: Nebuchadnezzar I
Aha, so what you basically are saying: "Just because they include their own ability to crash nodes in their tatical assesments doesnt mean they'll do it"
Why mention a tatical option if you are not actively using it/prepared to do so?
Anyone with insight into the SA community need no evidence of how far goons are willing to go in games though, im not even sure they will deny this themselves.
He asked for proof, you're giving him the run-around. Post the proof or don't post at all.
Methinks he doth protest too much
(look it up )
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Treebeard dk
M. Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.03 09:19:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Chochko
Ok those kind of "proofs" are absolute joke...
I can fabricate a "post" too and say that i copy it from whatever forum - the question is how this demonstrates the truth of those words? - Not at all.
Another thing is to get just part of said "post" and make comments over those part. This is just a plain manipulation.
There is a local saying in my country - "We dont eat the tomatoes with the stakes"
The lenght of the total propaganda post from goon forums, kinda makes it reliable and the crap posted in there to fool goon-members are exaggerated enough to be proof enough that no other than a goon could have written it, certainly noone in LV or V has that much imagination
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Chochko
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.03 09:46:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Treebeard dk
The lenght of the total propaganda post from goon forums, kinda makes it reliable and the crap posted in there to fool goon-members are exaggerated enough to be proof enough that no other than a goon could have written it, certainly noone in LV or V has that much imagination
Every above-average manipulator can make reliable falsification. And those forums are full with near-perfect manipulators. So dont try to sell me this.
There is no such thing named proof in MMORPGs/Forums. All is - do you accept it or not. When it is not familiar with your thinking - it is a unspeakable lie.
OR when you like the proof - it is abslolutly truth. Depends only from the point of view.
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Treebeard dk
M. Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.03 10:18:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Chochko
Originally by: Treebeard dk
The lenght of the total propaganda post from goon forums, kinda makes it reliable and the crap posted in there to fool goon-members are exaggerated enough to be proof enough that no other than a goon could have written it, certainly noone in LV or V has that much imagination
Every above-average manipulator can make reliable falsification. And those forums are full with near-perfect manipulators. So dont try to sell me this.
There is no such thing named proof in MMORPGs/Forums. All is - do you accept it or not. When it is not familiar with your thinking - it is a unspeakable lie.
OR when you like the proof - it is abslolutly truth. Depends only from the point of view.
Just keep telling yourself that and it might end up as proof too :)
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Velios
M. Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.03 10:42:00 -
[129]
Bored of this thread now. Tree pack it in mate, why keep such a sad trvesty of a thread alive man.
Goon have been getting people into GB- to pull a log on trap, their op starts at 02:00 EVE Time saturday morning, but they need to be logged off at the 2-1 POS loooooooong before the op starts so they can pull the log-in trap.
Lets focus on how this develops instead. It will be interesting.
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Chochko
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.03 11:39:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Treebeard dk
Originally by: Chochko
Originally by: Treebeard dk
The lenght of the total propaganda post from goon forums, kinda makes it reliable and the crap posted in there to fool goon-members are exaggerated enough to be proof enough that no other than a goon could have written it, certainly noone in LV or V has that much imagination
Every above-average manipulator can make reliable falsification. And those forums are full with near-perfect manipulators. So dont try to sell me this.
There is no such thing named proof in MMORPGs/Forums. All is - do you accept it or not. When it is not familiar with your thinking - it is a unspeakable lie.
OR when you like the proof - it is abslolutly truth. Depends only from the point of view.
Just keep telling yourself that and it might end up as proof too :)
This is valid for you too
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Halca
Candy Hearts
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Posted - 2006.11.03 17:33:00 -
[131]
Goons are the same as they where when they first formed. They are still immature rabble. Why don't they post here? Why do they have a blanket ban on talking in local.
It's very simple, the leadership has to have these controls in place because they can't trust the majority of their members to not be idiots.
When goonswarm start to actually take this game seriously, they'll be more like BoB. Whether that's a good thing or not, you can decide for yourself.
-Halca out ^.^
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Oninous
CyberDyne Industries
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.05 22:51:00 -
[132]
It's better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you are a fool than to open it and remove any lingering doubt, as 95% of this forum does.
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Aegis Osiris
Gallente
Demonic Retribution
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.05 23:16:00 -
[133]
Oni, there is a smoother way of putting that....
"'Tis better to be silent and thought a fool, then speak and remove all doubt."
There we go :)
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Mar Drakar
LDK
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Posted - 2006.11.06 07:48:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Halca
Goons are the same as they where when they first formed. They are still immature rabble. Why don't they post here? Why do they have a blanket ban on talking in local.
It's very simple, the leadership has to have these controls in place because they can't trust the majority of their members to not be idiots.
When goonswarm start to actually take this game seriously, they'll be more like BoB. Whether that's a good thing or not, you can decide for yourself.
-Halca out ^.^
it's pl like you who make them not to post here, since seeing nothing past your nose tip is a trend of nowadays.
if they choose to speak with actions then stfu and to the same, and dont be like lots of others, who just brag and crap about anything on forums.
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Der Pfaffe
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.06 10:07:00 -
[135]
Well they took down 9 or 10 Pos in the same system last night, so I'd say they are taking it fairly seriously.
Immature Rabble they are not Halca.
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Halca
Candy Hearts
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Posted - 2006.11.06 11:02:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Der Pfaffe
Well they took down 9 or 10 Pos in the same system last night, so I'd say they are taking it fairly seriously.
Immature Rabble they are not Halca.
Being the meatshield while RA and you guys tear down POS's doesn't make them any less immature.
I have every respect for KIA so I hate to do this to you, but all you need to do for proof is to pick one at random from the medley of fruit and try have a conversation about anything you like. 
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Condemed
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Posted - 2006.11.06 11:23:00 -
[137]
Yeh I like goonswarm was in the alliance for a while nice big battles hehe evne if we did loose quite alot it was still good fun
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k1Lz
Delta team
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.06 14:16:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Der Pfaffe
Well they took down 9 or 10 Pos in the same system last night, so I'd say they are taking it fairly seriously.
Immature Rabble they are not Halca.
Offline POSs and with some help from RA capital fleet, any way GG see u in space.
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
The OSS
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Posted - 2006.11.06 14:20:00 -
[139]
Originally by: k1Lz
Originally by: Der Pfaffe
Well they took down 9 or 10 Pos in the same system last night, so I'd say they are taking it fairly seriously.
Immature Rabble they are not Halca.
Offline POSs and with some help from RA capital fleet, any way GG see u in space.
Is that why all -V- could do was camp NRAEL?
Wait, you weren't even there, so it's not like you know what happened 
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k1Lz
Delta team
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.06 14:32:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Originally by: k1Lz
Originally by: Der Pfaffe
Well they took down 9 or 10 Pos in the same system last night, so I'd say they are taking it fairly seriously.
Immature Rabble they are not Halca.
Offline POSs and with some help from RA capital fleet, any way GG see u in space.
Is that why all -V- could do was camp NRAEL?
Wait, you weren't even there, so it's not like you know what happened
Smack Immunity lev 5, pls go away.
PS: i was in dread taking down POSs my bad.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.06 14:53:00 -
[141]
Originally by: k1Lz
PS: i was in dread taking down POSs my bad.
Where?
I cannot help but feel that whoever is running the LV/V defense campaign isn't seeing the bigger picture.
The goons are being highly organised, the precision dismantling continues. Whilst V/LV spend time touring round in big fleets or camping choke points...
Anyways, currently our contract ends on Wednesday, although i believe an extension is being discussed. By then I hope that we will have achieved the first goal of taking the Goons into J-Lo and seeing out the Sov change.
The beggining of the end?
I hope not, KIA have nothin but respect for LV/V, but I think the time for reality is close drawing near. Maybe some peace talks b4 its way too late?
Safe flight.
KIA EVE Home
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Der Pfaffe
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.06 15:03:00 -
[142]
Originally by: k1Lz
Originally by: Der Pfaffe
Well they took down 9 or 10 Pos in the same system last night, so I'd say they are taking it fairly seriously.
Immature Rabble they are not Halca.
Offline POSs and with some help from RA capital fleet, any way GG see u in space.
Offline or online it was still 10, and V were nowhere to be seen. The only person to make any attempt to attack us was an Opus alliance guy in a Raven. As already mentioned V were looking after the Korama gate 
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Uttuman Niska
Ecumenical Trade Holdings
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Posted - 2006.11.06 15:11:00 -
[143]
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: k1Lz
PS: i was in dread taking down POSs my bad.
Where?
I cannot help but feel that whoever is running the LV/V defense campaign isn't seeing the bigger picture.
The goons are being highly organised, the precision dismantling continues. Whilst V/LV spend time touring round in big fleets or camping choke points...
Anyways, currently our contract ends on Wednesday, although i believe an extension is being discussed. By then I hope that we will have achieved the first goal of taking the Goons into J-Lo and seeing out the Sov change.
The beggining of the end?
I hope not, KIA have nothin but respect for LV/V, but I think the time for reality is close drawing near. Maybe some peace talks b4 its way too late?
Safe flight.
Light Darkness > e
Remedial > Greetings
Light Darkness > hello Sir
Remedial > Nync said you wanted to talk to us?
Light Darkness > sure
Remedial > What's up
Light Darkness > welcome nync
Light Darkness > you do a great job btw
nync > thks
Remedial > What can I do for you
Remedial > Hey Bjoern
Light Darkness > hi BB. so i dont need to repeat that convo =)
Remedial > long time no see
Light Darkness > heya Mac
Remedial > I invited MACTEP although I dont think he actually speaks English
Light Darkness > ok. lets invite some more and we will have a nice chat
Remedial > Maybe he'll curse at you in Russian
Remedial > This should be cozy
MACTEP > hi
Remedial > Go ahead LD, you start.
Light Darkness > sure
Light Darkness > so.
Light Darkness > i dont know how i should start. iam not a diplo and cant handle diplo words
Light Darkness > iam a pvp guy .)
Light Darkness > but
Light Darkness > so i will come to the point
Light Darkness > so far that you know. iam parrallel in talks with LV also
Light Darkness > fact is
Light Darkness > you ( RA / GOON and Co) doing a great job
Light Darkness > and V and Co still fighting RA since over 1 1/2 years now
Light Darkness > V more then other alliances in the coalition
Light Darkness > we will give up JLO. thats fact
Light Darkness > f*** i hate diplo words
Remedial > Just tell me what you want LD
Light Darkness > so. fact is. we can do the war a long time. till V disband or i leave EvE. We (i speak for V now) will loose systems or able to hold it. But what i want now is. to look for a "other" future
Light Darkness > for V
Remedial > That sounds reasonable.
Remedial > Do you have something in mind?
Light Darkness > problem is. V is/was and will every stay at the front. in this war.
Light Darkness > like i told. V will loose more systems or will hold it
Light Darkness > but
Light Darkness > V is boring to fight anymore
Light Darkness > and also like RA/GOON we are looking for KALI
Light Darkness > Mac now that
Light Darkness > V is fighting since day 1
Light Darkness > and now near after 2 years war we are tired to fight anymore
Remedial > Ok, so what do you want us to do to help V find this alterate future?
Remedial > NAP you for a period of time?
Light Darkness > what iam looking for is a future for all
Light Darkness > not V or LV alone
Remedial > LV isn't going to like anything you do with us.
Bjoern Bitter > Hi Remedial
Remedial > You saw how they treated KOS.
Bjoern Bitter > sorry I was busy
Remedial > Hi Bjoern, long time
Light Darkness > i know
Light Darkness > but
Light Darkness > V is able to speak. cause we was/are a strong part in the coalition
Light Darkness > and LV know if V dont stay on his side = LV will fall
Light Darkness > but. i dont want to step into LV&s back. i want to find a way for V/LV and also for RA/GOON
Remedial > That's is what the future became when LV attacked GS in Syndicate
Light Darkness > we are reducing our all rescources in this war. LV / V and RA did that now near 2 years
Remedial > I don't mind NAP'ing you for several weeks if you plan on moving -V- someplace LD
Remedial > But I don't think LV will look on
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Uttuman Niska
Ecumenical Trade Holdings
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Posted - 2006.11.06 15:13:00 -
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Remedial > I don't mind NAP'ing you for several weeks if you plan on moving -V- someplace LD
Remedial > But I don't think LV will look on that favorably
Bjoern Bitter > we will not leave our main constellation
Light Darkness > V will never go away from SP.
Bjoern Bitter > but we are prepared to lose JLO
Remedial > Well, then this will be a short conversation
Remedial > GS needs a home, and we need this space
Bjoern Bitter > we built 2 outposts in our constellation and will not give those up
Bjoern Bitter > we don't really care about hte rest of scalding pass
Light Darkness > Rem. only what i want to remember you now is. We can do the war if you like. Sure. GS need a home. We will have 4 or 5 more regions behind RA/GOON and also for you its hard to defend it
Remedial > I would step back and realistically look at your situation. You will not be able to hold out for weeks or months against all of us, especially not when Tau Ceti begin deploying dreads as well.
Light Darkness > you got Wicked and Insmother back and already Cache
Remedial > Wicked Creek is Tau Ceti's
Remedial > Cache and Insmother are RA's
Remedial > Scalding Pass was meant for GS
Remedial > If that's your offer, I'm afraid we have nothing more to discuss.
Remedial > Is that your offer?
Light Darkness > Rem. Ask Mac and he will answer you how fast we will leave. But with KALI you will also have probs in your back. And so long we kill our rescources other alliances are able to gather his rescources to go into the new regions
Light Darkness > Rem
Light Darkness > you counted that you kick out V in one V out of SP
Light Darkness > and you wasnt able
Light Darkness > we will give up JLO
Light Darkness > but with every station system you got = more systems for you to cover
Light Darkness > and V isnt down Sir
Remedial > LD, every single day I am going to bring dreads to your space and put more POSs into reinforced. I will bring mercs, RA, Tau Ceti, GS, IMP dreads, and hundreds of troops, around the clock. I don't care if you think you can hold out for months - you cann...
Remedial > You cannot, and I'm not going to accept you living here.
Remedial > If you don't want to surrender, we will go back to blowing up POSs.
Remedial > Are we done here?
Light Darkness > Rem. Sure. Bring tons of members into SP. Look how RA fought and V dont do it another way. With every system you have to cover you will have more probs to defend it
Remedial > Ok folks, see you on the battlefield.
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Luna Liandri
PPN United
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Posted - 2006.11.06 15:21:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Uttuman Niska
Light Darkness > e
Remedial > Greetings
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there are no goons ^^
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Shadoo
The Taining corp
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.11.06 15:32:00 -
[146]
An interesting chatlog...
It's not fun being the one taking all the punches and trying to hold on to POSes with supplies cut, members worn out, EVE turning into a job and members leaving by the day  .
Best of luck -V-. You've fought a good fight, and I hope you can navigate to a solution that doesn't involve becomming small group of dedicated POS fighters.
Make sure you tell LV well in advance of these chats taking place. Would hate to see another 13 page "T H E K E Y" nonsense.
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Sharcy
Out Siders
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.06 15:56:00 -
[147]
Quote:
Light Darkness > we will give up JLO
What man in his right mind would give up J-Lo??
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Light Darkness
Seraphin Technologies
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.06 16:17:00 -
[148]
Edited by: Light Darkness on 06/11/2006 16:26:58
Thanks for the Chatlog in here.
For you the infos. LV knowed about this chat.
For thas was sad that RA dindt say anythink. Hoped that RA could say anythink cause V / LV and RA are the main parts in this war and we fought over years this war.
But now its more a pressure for us to kick Remdials arrogant ass into the deep space.
Lets the war begin Remedial !!! And so long you dont saw us really fighting. This is a POS war and a POS war we have now near 2 years. Bring tons of menpower into SP.
That dont care us. We still fought RA since near 2 years and you can ask your friends and RA how we fought. RA i send respect in this war. For GS atm not a piece.
/LD
-V-eritas Immortalis
Originally by: nync
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.06 16:24:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Light Darkness
But now its more a pressure for us to kick Remdials arrogant ass into the deep space.
Lets the war begin Remedial !!!
/LD
Sigh.
LD, I like you a lot, much admiration for you and your peeps, you know that. But you have 0 chance in this war. Your members do not have the desire, the strategy and most importantly the discipline to win. It will cost you everything you have to try and defend, but you cannot hold out forever, you will need a back up plan. The goons will take Scalding pass, I am sure of that.
I expect nothing less than your guys to be there fighting till the very end, your honourable, and you live for the fight. But be careful not to allow morale to slip too low, this should not effect V long term.
Safe flight.
KIA EVE Home
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Light Darkness
Seraphin Technologies
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.06 16:29:00 -
[150]
Edited by: Light Darkness on 06/11/2006 16:30:36
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: Light Darkness
But now its more a pressure for us to kick Remdials arrogant ass into the deep space.
Lets the war begin Remedial !!!
/LD
Sigh.
LD, I like you a lot, much admiration for you and your peeps, you know that. But you have 0 chance in this war. Your members do not have the desire, the strategy and most importantly the discipline to win. It will cost you everything you have to try and defend, but you cannot hold out forever, you will need a back up plan. The goons will take Scalding pass, I am sure of that.
I expect nothing less than your guys to be there fighting till the very end, your honourable, and you live for the fight. But be careful not to allow morale to slip too low, this should not effect V long term.
Safe flight.
THX for your words Eddz. We fought a time side on side.So you know me and most -V-. And many time many thought that we are loosing some wars. But we are still living. Also i know from the members that they want to fight till the end and the rest they stay in the fight will fight with spirit and honor till the end.
Everyone in V is able to leave V if they want. But the rest in V still fight so long they can. The Time will show us the results. Into the death or a glory future.
/LD
-V-eritas Immortalis
Originally by: nync
we fisrt time saw -v-members ctrl+qing to save their ships,we started to think how to pay attention of eve community |
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