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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
602
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:45:26 -
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Rhiannon Dellacorte wrote:Julianus Soter wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:*yawn* have we won yet? Not until all are free. Anybody else think this sounds like, "We come for our people"? Its not very nice to reappropriate somebody else's culture for your own political ends, Soter.
Next he'll be getting all tatted up and burning out the prop mods on his Thrasher...
Well, one of those things for sure anyway. |
Aedre Lafisques
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
34
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Posted - 2015.04.16 01:03:43 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:That sounds very ambiguous and carefree to me.
Unfortunately it is not. As Vero and Tuulinen - on either side of the fence here I might add - have agreed, the aggression of neutrals is very nearly impossible to avoid. Even with a working policy of leaving neutrals alone it is frequently impossible to do so. This campaign is being run differently, however, and I applaud that clarity.
I don't think most people would consider me very aggressive, and I have a negative sec status myself. I spend what I consider a wasteful amount of time having to bump it back up. Neutrals are very arguably more of a threat than the militias, and there can be quite a bit of mindgames to play on gates to this regard. |
Vikarion
State Trade Consortium
811
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Posted - 2015.04.16 01:11:42 -
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Liam Antolliere wrote:Julianus Soter wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:*yawn* have we won yet? Not until all are free. With all due respect, Monsieur Soter... Freedom forced upon anyone is merely tyranny wearing a different skin.
Oh, don't mind him. Soter has had a savior complex for quite some time. It never seems to strike him that some don't fancy themselves sinners in need of one. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Heiian Conglomerate
1420
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:41:16 -
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Julianus Soter wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:So.....
Hows it going? Thank you for asking. Our initial phase of the campaign has destroyed 175 ships, with a total ISK value of 6.53 billion isk. This is roughly 35 ships destroyed per day, or 1.3 billion isk per day. This comes at a loss of 70 ships over the same period, at a loss of 1.62 billion ISK. This equates to a combat efficiency of 80.07%. Villore Accords General Staff wishes to remind civilians and capsuleers alike inside the Okkamon system that this operation is scheduled to escalate. Please evacuate the system or otherwise stay out of the fighting. Our goal here is not to kill innocents; but to harm the megacorporations that are facilitating the ongoing war effort of the Chief Executive Panel and the Caldari State.
Tell your lies elsewhere Gallente scum etc etc etc.
The Truth
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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
604
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Posted - 2015.04.16 03:01:45 -
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Laney, what is that even supposed to be?
Looks like a completely unrelated battle five days ago in Reitsato to me. |
Claudia Osyn
Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan
1157
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Posted - 2015.04.16 04:20:40 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Julianus Soter wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:So.....
Hows it going? Thank you for asking. Our initial phase of the campaign has destroyed 175 ships, with a total ISK value of 6.53 billion isk. This is roughly 35 ships destroyed per day, or 1.3 billion isk per day. This comes at a loss of 70 ships over the same period, at a loss of 1.62 billion ISK. This equates to a combat efficiency of 80.07%. Villore Accords General Staff wishes to remind civilians and capsuleers alike inside the Okkamon system that this operation is scheduled to escalate. Please evacuate the system or otherwise stay out of the fighting. Our goal here is not to kill innocents; but to harm the megacorporations that are facilitating the ongoing war effort of the Chief Executive Panel and the Caldari State. Tell your lies elsewhere Gallente scum etc etc etc, Edit: error 404: Kill board not found. Dude. You know you can't do that. You'll bring down the wrath of my minions, who I set to auto-aggress any who break my laws.
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Heiian Conglomerate
1420
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Posted - 2015.04.16 05:58:23 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:Laney, what is that even supposed to be?
Looks like a completely unrelated battle five days ago in Reitsato to me.
It was related when you thought the stats were in your favor.
https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1683
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Posted - 2015.04.16 10:08:41 -
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Julianus Soter wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:*yawn* have we won yet? Not until all are free. If Soter wants to be "free", then get a damn shuttle, warp to any planet with indigenous life, leave all your posessions and clothes behind in the shuttle, blow it up, and run to the woods naked, to live with animals like an animal, FREE.
Meanwhile we are here fight for humanity and civilization against your savagery. If you want to go free and become another filthy animal, please go ahead and do so. But while you try to enforce your ideal of savagery into others, you will be stopped by our bullets.
And have a nice jam. |
Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
605
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Posted - 2015.04.16 13:02:33 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Rinai Vero wrote:Laney, what is that even supposed to be?
Looks like a completely unrelated battle five days ago in Reitsato to me. It was related when you thought the stats were in your favor.
No, but seriously that BR just shows random nonsense in Reitsato to me. I don't get it. |
Viron Tash-Murkon
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2015.04.16 17:47:36 -
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Tyrel Toov wrote:This will end well....
Sombody grab the popcorn.
Glad I grabbed some earlier.
*hands over a bowl of popcorn*
For some reason I keep picturing someone sitting inside one of the Stations hiding out and Station Trading. Oh wait, that's me hehehehehe. |
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Claudia Osyn
Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan
1158
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Posted - 2015.04.16 17:49:59 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Julianus Soter wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:*yawn* have we won yet? Not until all are free. If Soter wants to be "free", then get a damn shuttle, warp to any planet with indigenous life, leave all your posessions and clothes behind in the shuttle, blow it up, and run to the woods naked, to live with animals like an animal, FREE. Meanwhile we are here fight for humanity and civilization against your savagery. If you want to go free and become another filthy animal, please go ahead and do so. But while you try to enforce your ideal of savagery into others, you will be stopped by our bullets. And have a nice jam. One again, Kimmy completely misses the concept of Gallente freedom.
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
920
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Posted - 2015.04.16 20:36:44 -
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Aedre Lafisques wrote:Lyn Farel wrote:That sounds very ambiguous and carefree to me. Unfortunately it is not. As Vero and Tuulinen - on either side of the fence here I might add - have agreed, the aggression of neutrals is very nearly impossible to avoid. Even with a working policy of leaving neutrals alone it is frequently impossible to do so. This campaign is being run differently, however, and I applaud that clarity. I don't think most people would consider me very aggressive, and I have a negative sec status myself. I spend what I consider a wasteful amount of time having to bump it back up. Neutrals are very arguably more of a threat than the militias, and there can be quite a bit of mindgames to play on gates to this regard.
The aggression of neutrals is not the point... I have taken part into that militia business for several years and I am well aware of all the situations that can happen.
All I am saying is that stating that there is no general rule and that appreciation is left to every fleet commander is indeed, ambiguous, and eventually lead to unconscious and sloppy policies.
I have always played by the rules (NRDS) and handled every situation perfectly fine. Some other groups like PIE Inc are a testimony to the validity of those policies. I still think humbly that doing otherwise by eluding the question is done only by disregard towards those issues, and sometimes, a certain willingness to actually get kills to conform to the capsuleer society where killboards are the only currency. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4646
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Posted - 2015.04.16 20:55:36 -
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It may be alright for your average nation-state sponsored security task-force to take it easy and put their feet up but here, in the corporate sector, people expect results. The warzone divides people neatly down the middle along the axis of those who do unto others and those who are done unto.
Personally speaking, I don't see why I should risk my crew and kirjuun by allowing a neutral flagged party to make the decision on whether an engagement is happening or not. It's a warzone, if you're not part of the war then stay out.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1684
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Posted - 2015.04.16 22:08:50 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Julianus Soter wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:*yawn* have we won yet? Not until all are free. If Soter wants to be "free", then get a damn shuttle, warp to any planet with indigenous life, leave all your posessions and clothes behind in the shuttle, blow it up, and run to the woods naked, to live with animals like an animal, FREE. Meanwhile we are here fight for humanity and civilization against your savagery. If you want to go free and become another filthy animal, please go ahead and do so. But while you try to enforce your ideal of savagery into others, you will be stopped by our bullets. And have a nice jam. One again, Kimmy completely misses the concept of Gallente freedom. I was talking about universal freedom, not your gallentish "concepts". But, looking at gallente actions you could simply derive a formula for gallentean form of... "freedom", which would be something like that: "What gallentean can do, is not allowed to others" |
Claudia Osyn
Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan
1159
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Posted - 2015.04.16 22:13:06 -
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Diana Kim wrote: I was talking about universal freedom, not your gallentish "concepts". But, looking at gallente actions you could simply derive a formula for gallentean form of... "freedom", which would be something like that: "What gallentean can do, is not allowed to others"
Not true, it's allowed to everyone. That's kind of the whole idea behind our philosophy.
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
1690
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Posted - 2015.04.16 22:53:36 -
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Lyn Farel wrote: I have always played by the rules (NRDS) and handled every situation perfectly fine. Some other groups like PIE Inc are a testimony to the validity of those policies. I still think humbly that doing otherwise by eluding the question is done only by disregard towards those issues, and sometimes, a certain willingness to actually get kills to conform to the capsuleer society where killboards are the only currency.
Personally speaking I would say ISK is the only currency worth a damn and killboards remain simply a statistical metric. However I certainly don't populate my own killboard for the simple pursuit of mere statistics and kill-to-death ratios. The pleasure of the pursuit and chase, the combat itself, the struggle followed by triumph or defeat these are reasons enough to engage in acts of violence for me. Killboard statistics ticking over in some DED database are simply the end-results but never the end-goal.
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
920
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Posted - 2015.04.17 08:52:16 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Personally speaking, I don't see why I should risk my crew and kirjuun by allowing a neutral flagged party to make the decision on whether an engagement is happening or not. It's a warzone, if you're not part of the war then stay out.
That is nonsensical to me. You are supposed to always be prepared and consider any neutral a potential hostile. If that neutral takes offensive action, and you get caught, then the mistake is on you only. |
Renee Chanlin
Rapid Withdrawal
29
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Posted - 2015.04.17 09:14:21 -
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Tyrel Toov wrote:Desiderya wrote:Well, Soter, wouldn't this be relevant if your job wasn't already fighting over systems in the warzone? Furthermore, if you declare a system in a warzone you're already fighting in a warzone again. Is it more of a warzone than before or does it counter each other out somehow? Yo dawg, we heard you like warzones, so we put a warzone in your warzone so you can be in the warzone while your in the warzone.
rofl
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Renee Chanlin
Rapid Withdrawal
29
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Posted - 2015.04.17 09:18:20 -
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Kalaratiri wrote:Obviously, this announcement was a move of tactical brilliance. By declaring an invasion of Okkamon, then immediately not invading Okkamon and attacking Reitsato instead, the GalFed have shown their mastery of misinformation and subterfuge!
Who could have foreseen such a stroke of genius?!
OMG they're onto us!!! |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
7944
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Posted - 2015.04.17 09:29:08 -
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What Gallanteans lack in technology, they compensate with blind rage, war and killings.
I am not surprised.
Technical Support
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Heiian Conglomerate
1421
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Posted - 2015.04.17 09:38:53 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:What Gallanteans lack in technology, they compensate with blind rage, war and killings.
I am not surprised.
It's all to compensate for their tiny tadpoles.
https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
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Renee Chanlin
Rapid Withdrawal
29
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Posted - 2015.04.17 09:52:23 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Julianus Soter wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:*yawn* have we won yet? Not until all are free. If Soter wants to be "free", then get a damn shuttle, warp to any planet with indigenous life, leave all your posessions and clothes behind in the shuttle, blow it up, and run to the woods naked, to live with animals like an animal, FREE. Meanwhile we are here fight for humanity and civilization against your savagery. If you want to go free and become another filthy animal, please go ahead and do so. But while you try to enforce your ideal of savagery into others, you will be stopped by our bullets. And have a nice jam.
Ahhhhhhh, now I understand why Diana hates us so much. She's afraid of us because we are free to be like animals. She's afraid that if we get too close she might discover she likes it.
:-)
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Renee Chanlin
Rapid Withdrawal
29
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Posted - 2015.04.17 09:59:39 -
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Laney, don't be hatin' on the tadpoles. One day they grow into big scary frogs. *ribbit* |
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2015.04.18 11:03:21 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:What Gallanteans lack in technology, they compensate with blind rage, war and killings.
I am not surprised. If they would have Faith, they still could behave like peoples.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1687
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Posted - 2015.04.18 12:20:52 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Diana Kim wrote: I was talking about universal freedom, not your gallentish "concepts". But, looking at gallente actions you could simply derive a formula for gallentean form of... "freedom", which would be something like that: "What gallentean can do, is not allowed to others"
Not true, it's allowed to everyone. That's kind of the whole idea behind our philosophy. I think you have misspelled word "everygallente" Otherwise, how comes, that gallente could build their colonies as much as they want, but Intaki can't? Or how Caldari were attacked when we built our colonies in order to get them for gallenteans? Or, how comes, that when Federal Navy rams Caldari station, it is "just terrorist attack" But when Caldari Navy liberates CALDARI planet from Gallente occupation it is like "Omg omg, thats warmongering!!" When Gallente peoples on Caldari prime attack Caldari citizens just because of race, when they are defacing caldari monuments and our sacred places, calling to exterminate all caldari, "it is freedom of gallente people to do so" But when Caldari protest against these actions, gallente police goes all like "that's racist!!" and beat Caldari?..
You know what, gallentean, push your "gallentean freedom" you know where. We'll take from you what is due not by words, but by arms. |
Dailar Toralen
Toralen Industries
22
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Posted - 2015.04.18 13:09:56 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Diana Kim wrote: I was talking about universal freedom, not your gallentish "concepts". But, looking at gallente actions you could simply derive a formula for gallentean form of... "freedom", which would be something like that: "What gallentean can do, is not allowed to others"
Not true, it's allowed to everyone. That's kind of the whole idea behind our philosophy. I think you have misspelled word "everygallente" Otherwise, how comes, that gallente could build their colonies as much as they want, but Intaki can't? Or how Caldari were attacked when we built our colonies in order to get them for gallenteans? Or, how comes, that when Federal Navy rams Caldari station, it is "just terrorist attack" But when Caldari Navy liberates CALDARI planet from Gallente occupation it is like "Omg omg, thats warmongering!!" When Gallente peoples on Caldari prime attack Caldari citizens just because of race, when they are defacing caldari monuments and our sacred places, calling to exterminate all caldari, "it is freedom of gallente people to do so" But when Caldari protest against these actions, gallente police goes all like "that's racist!!" and beat Caldari?.. You know what, gallentean, push your "gallentean freedom" you know where. We'll take from you what is due not by words, but by arms.
I could not have said it better myself.
We are Toralen Industries. It doesn't matter if you fight for money, idealogies, or because it's what you are good at and it doesn't matter if you fight threw trade, combat, or diplomacy. No matter what or how you fight, there's a place for you.
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Julianus Soter
Moira. Villore Accords
267
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Posted - 2015.04.20 20:42:31 -
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Today GMVA engaged and destroyed an Ishtar-Class heavy assault cruiser inside the Okkamon system. Subsequently, Gallente Militia forces liberated Caldari State Protectorate Lill Boomer of a high-grade crystal omega implant set and numerous other illicit implants and augmentations. The total value of this was 2.3 billion isk. The Gallente Federal Defense Union reimbursed our forces with a sum of fifty-thousand loyalty points.
As a result of this and numerous other military actions, Villore Accords has successfully destroyed 225 ships in the Reitsato/Okkamon combat zone, which is now the larger area of "Operation Erinyes". This totals 12.25 billion isk of assets dissolved and confiscated through Federal firepower. This has come at a cost of 96 lost frigates, destroyers, and cruisers, with a total value of 2.5 billion isk. Efficiency currently stands at 83.9%.
Thank you for your participation in this Galnet thread and your continued attention. Please direct any concerns, complaints, or questions to myself, Julianus Soter, or my officers, via evemail.
Good day.
Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter
https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/
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Desra Mascani
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
30
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:52:14 -
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So, aside from reading too much into each other's propagandas, what is actually so surprising about this? Last time I checked, the war is still going on.
I think the Gallente warzone dominance can be hardly questioned by now. Yet, there has been no resolution to this conflict from the CONCORD or one of the two sides's governments. I am not happy about that state of things but clearly, since the opposition remains - albeit pathetic as it is - some pressure needs to be kept upon the hostile forces until one or more of the official bodies takes notice that something is really going on. Take this operation as nothing more than continuation of GalMil's (or more precisely GMVA's) war efforts.
Make no mistake, GMVA will continue hostile operations as long as there are notions of resistance form such deranged people as Diana Kim (I won't even bother discrediting her as she makes that job sufficiently by herself). There are some of us inside our organization that might view the details differently. E.g. EL-G being a corp within the GMVA with non-criminal status personell, even if it brings us many pains becasue of the unrealistic expectations CONCORD has of the warzone combat. I am not entirely happy with the tone chosen by mr. Soter and I would like to hear more voces like mr. Tuulinen or my own Aedre L. However, there is no difference of opinion whether we should continue with the operations against our State Protectorate enemy.
To show some good will and a desire to cause the civilian populations the least harm and distress, EL-G will start with procurement and moving of humanitarian supplies towards the Okkamon area. This initiative will begin tomorrow as we have finally established access protocols to the combat zone. The humanitarian supplies will be moved with regular military equipment but EL-G does not ask for any special treatment. Material destroyed during combat will be replaced at our expense. The foodstuffs and medicine will be gathered in one of the Rakapas orbitals and dispended to the civilian population as the situation allows. Please note this is not a guise for moving our own food supplies to the area. EL-G is a small capsulleer organization with no need of extensive foodstuff/medical logistics chain.
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Claudia Osyn
Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan
1169
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Posted - 2015.04.20 23:59:53 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Diana Kim wrote: I was talking about universal freedom, not your gallentish "concepts". But, looking at gallente actions you could simply derive a formula for gallentean form of... "freedom", which would be something like that: "What gallentean can do, is not allowed to others"
Not true, it's allowed to everyone. That's kind of the whole idea behind our philosophy. I think you have misspelled word "everygallente" Otherwise, how comes, that gallente could build their colonies as much as they want, but Intaki can't? Or how Caldari were attacked when we built our colonies in order to get them for gallenteans? Or, how comes, that when Federal Navy rams Caldari station, it is "just terrorist attack" But when Caldari Navy liberates CALDARI planet from Gallente occupation it is like "Omg omg, thats warmongering!!" When Gallente peoples on Caldari prime attack Caldari citizens just because of race, when they are defacing caldari monuments and our sacred places, calling to exterminate all caldari, "it is freedom of gallente people to do so" But when Caldari protest against these actions, gallente police goes all like "that's racist!!" and beat Caldari?.. You know what, gallentean, push your "gallentean freedom" you know where. We'll take from you what is due not by words, but by arms. You know, I could bring up that charter you guys signed (you know the one where you agreed to tell us you were building the colonies), or all the war crimes the Caldari committed (why is it just a terrorist attack when you blow up a city but "OMG, OMG, that warmongering!!" when a carrier rams a station?), but that's been hashed out hundreds of times. So I'll just go with..... Become Gallente? We have all the cool toys.... and exotic dancers. Joooooooin usssssss!
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Heiian Conglomerate
1422
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Posted - 2015.04.21 02:52:51 -
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Julianus Soter wrote:Today GMVA engaged and destroyed an Ishtar-Class heavy assault cruiser inside the Okkamon system. Subsequently, Gallente Militia forces liberated Caldari State Protectorate Lill Boomer of a high-grade crystal omega implant set and numerous other illicit implants and augmentations. The total value of this was 2.3 billion isk. The Gallente Federal Defense Union reimbursed our forces with a sum of fifty-thousand loyalty points.
As a result of this and numerous other military actions, Villore Accords has successfully destroyed 225 ships in the Reitsato/Okkamon combat zone, which is now the larger area of "Operation Erinyes". This totals 12.25 billion isk of assets dissolved and confiscated through Federal firepower. This has come at a cost of 96 lost frigates, destroyers, and cruisers, with a total value of 2.5 billion isk. Efficiency currently stands at 83.9%.
Thank you for your participation in this Galnet thread and your continued attention. Please direct any concerns, complaints, or questions to myself, Julianus Soter, or my officers, via evemail.
Good day.
The usual Gallente lies.
You Killed Ishtars In Okkamon on 20/4/15 !!! Oh no you didn't.
In fact - No Ishtars died in Okkamon that day.
So far all of your Okkamon/Reitsato claims over the last week have been pure lies/propaganda.
More Gallente Lies Exposed
However - I admit you did kill a State Pro scrub in a very shiney pod.
https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
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